Important: Huge Problem with KSM Confession

Larisa Alexandrovna, the outstanding reporter for Raw Story, has an update on the KSM story at her personal blog.

In his confession, KSM claims:

"I was responsible for planning, training, surveying, and financing for the New (or Second) Wave of attacks against the following skyscrapers after 9/11: ...Plaza Bank, Washington state"

The Plaza Bank was not founded until 2006 according to their official Web site:

"Founded in early 2006, with a vision of creating the leading commercial bank in the Pacific Northwest, Plaza Bank’s story quickly captured the hearts and passion of some of the region’s leading business minds. From Jack Creighton, former CEO of Weyerhaeuser and United Airlines, to former Seattle Mariner Edgar Martinez, and nationally acclaimed salon operator Gene Juárez, the story of a bank founded to bring “class to the mass” simply could not be contained."

I think we can say for quite certain that whomever is being held as KSM was either caught recently or that his entire confession is a fraud.

Update: Noah has more.


Your comment... "has been hesitant to look at any 9/11 truth"... Larisa was a story consultant for 9/11: Press For Truth.

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I didn't know that.

Officials: Mohammed exaggerated claims

Officials: Mohammed exaggerated claims

By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer
Thu Mar 15, 6:29 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's claims that he was responsible for dozens of successful, foiled and imagined attacks in the past 15 years relies on a loose definition of the word "responsible." Officials say the 9/11 mastermind was key to some plots but a bit player in others.


So, was he only a bit player in the Plaza plot?

How did he know? How do they know? How could we know?

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

Wow, security at Guantanamo....

....must be really lax if KSM can escape, get all the way up to Washington state, be "responsible for planning, training, surveying, and financing" of the attacks on the Plaza Bank, and then sneak back into Guantanamo before anyone notices...

Perhaps the "incompetance theory" is right....

Thank you

for the first laugh I've had today.

so the building was still there...

it just wasnt called the same as it is now?

I don't see the problem? The target was the same, the building name is just different now, and that name was used.


EDIT: Target is not the same...see below post.

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The Plaza Bank is in a different building

than the Columbia Center, which a Seattle newspaper says must be the one he meant, and which is the building that the 9/11 Commission claimed KSM confessed to targeting.

I commented there about how absurd it is to say that KSM must have meant something else in an already completely unreliable document.

What we have here is a phantom terrorist confessing through a phantom "personal representative," before a phantom "Recorder" and a phantom "judge."

It is a huge problem that the name is wrong - this is supposed to be his confession, and there is no way he could have known about a Plaza Bank since he (allegedly) has been in custody since 2003.

The Seattle newspaper says he might have meant the Bank of America Plaza building which is near Columbia Center, and is connected by an underground concourse. Not likely, even if it were proper journalism to speculate that he meant something else. Bank of America Plaza Building is only 42 stories tall. Moreover, why would a terrorist name a skyscraper target - the tallest building in Seattle - using the name of another building?

Columbia Center was called the Bank of America Tower for many years, but the name was changed back to November 2005. It is most likely that "KSM" would refer to the building as "Bank of America Tower." And how likely is it that rather than calling it the "Bank of America building," he would call it the "Plaza Bank" building just because a Bank of America Plaza was nearby? Bank of America is a very well-known bank, and might itself be a target for that reason. But the basic target is the tallest building in Seattle, which has never had "Plaza" in its name.

Plaza Bank is located in the U.S. Bank Centre Tower, which is 7 blocks north of Columbia Center. It is 44 stories tall.

It is not considered a skyscraper, unlike the U.S. Bank Tower in L.A. that was allegedly a target of KSM, according to the 9/11 Commission.

In short, a "Plaza Bank" has never been in the tallest building in Seattle, nor could KSM have meant US Bank Centre because it had no Plaza Bank until 2006 (and are we to believe KSM hates small Latino banks?). So it makes no sense for KSM to confess to targeting a "Plaza Bank."

Even assuming the building was now named "Plaza Bank" or housed a "Plaza Bank," there is no way that KSM could know that unless if was told that, and it would be very sketchy practice to put words into the suspect's mouth. It is supposed to be his confession. And if the drafter of the confession made a mistake, would not KSM ask for a correction,since there is no way he could have been targeting a "Plaza Bank"?


I heard this problem with the bank name earlier on AJ, classic. Also yesterday someone mentioned that KSM would be quite young to be plotting against Pres Carter. They mentioned ksm's birth date but I cant recall it at the moment. As if it wasnt fishy enoughy with the "A to Z" statement, now a slew of factual inaccuracies are emerging. The gov used to be very creative, very well researched, LIARS. Now the lies are just made up and release without care - this should be the scary part.

Physics/Science/Mathematics do not lie, only people do.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB

ksm's birth date

From Wikipedia: (b. March 1, 1964, or April 14, 1965)

seriously, what's the deal

seriously, what's the deal now with the obvious and weak lies the government has been promoting lately? I mean everything blows up in their face in a day or two. Are they trying to look like they don't have credibility on purpose?


no, they just dont care. that tells me something very very bad is going to happen very very soon.

Physics/Science/Mathematics do not lie, only people do.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB

I hope not

but you could be right

News editor at The Watchman Report,, delivering 9/11 truth to the Christian community

When the tallest building in

When the tallest building in Seattle opened in 1985 it was officially called the Columbia Center and Plaza Building.

I'd imagine this is the building KSM is referring to.

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A post on her blog suggests its a simple mistake

Lawrence says:

"I'm sorry, but you're clearly off-base on this.

When the tallest building in Seattle opened in 1985 it was officially called the Columbia Center and Plaza Building. However, everyone just called it the Columbia Center. It's name has changed over the years and has also been known as the Columbia Seafirst Center (after Seafirst Bank), then Bank of America Tower. There's an underground concourse that connects the building to the Bank of America Fifth Avenue Plaza. A few years ago its name was changed back to the Columbia Center (this time without the "Plaza"), hopefully for good.

It doesn't surprise me one bit that KSM would be confused as to the name of the building. Even Seattlites call it any number of things. I've always called it the Columbia Center, but I've also heard it called The Plaza Building.

The 9/11 Commission identified it as one of al-Qaeda's Second Wave targets.

The corporate offices for The Plaza Bank is located on the 37th floor of the City Center Building about seven blocks away. I doubt that anyone in al-Qaeda would consider this little regional bank as a primary target, or even knew it existed. I certainly didn't."

This is a reply to both DHS and Victronix

who both claim that Columbia Center was formerly called "Columbia Center and Plaza Building." Not according to this document:

The tower was originally named the Columbia Center when it was first built. The name was later changed to Columbia Seafirst Center, for Seafirst Bank, and then to the Bank of America Tower, when Seafirst, which had been owned by Bank of America since 1983, was fully integrated into BofA. That name gave it the nickname "BOAT" (Bank of America Tower). In November 2005, the building's name was changed back to the Columbia Center.

Even if the building's official name included "and Plaza Building" back in 1985, this would have been removed in the late 80s or early 90s (pre-Internet), and there is no way KSM would have seen the building referred to as "Columbia Center and Plaza Building" when he allegedly planned these events in the late 90s.

Seattlites do not call this building the "Plaza Building," and the Seattle newspaper did not make such a claim in trying to explain the incompetent PsyOp.

Or is this another PsyOp? A test to see just how much bullshit we are willing to swallow?

Rosie supports KSM?

Better watch Glenn Beck today and try not to gag.

So they had a second wave of attacks planned?

That one is interesting. The "confession" refering to a "planned" second wave, I mean, come on!!! Presumptously, is this meant for us to assume the government would be unprepared for second waves after being so "confused" on the same day? Especially after what happened with the "first wave".
I have to keep Myself from laughing on this, but with the second wave being mentioned, is this a tactic to freak the sheeple?

The master class has always declared the wars; the subject class has always fought the battles.

Tiny question...

Does anyone know anyone who actually believes all this confession tot? Or alledges to believe it? And do they also believe the earth is flat?

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Paul Craig Roberts on the fake KSM confession

"If Bush can't have Mohammed murdered, the US government will have to shut Mohammed away where he cannot talk and tell his tale. The US government will have to replicate Orwell's memory hole by destroying Mohammed's mind with mind-altering drugs and abuse."

Roberts is on the case.

The Confession Backfired by Paul Craig Roberts

The Confession Backfired

by Paul Craig Roberts

The first confession released by the Bush regime's Military Tribunals
– that of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed – has discredited the entire process.
Writing in Jurist, Northwestern University law professor Anthony
D'Amato likens Mohammed's confession to those that emerged in Stalin's
show trials of Bolshevik leaders in the 1930s.

That was my own immediate thought. I remember speaking years ago with
Soviet dissident Valdimir Bukovsky about the behavior of Soviet
dissidents under torture. He replied that people pressed for names
under torture would try to remember the names of war dead and people
who had passed away. Those who retained enough of their wits under
torture would confess to an unbelievable array of crimes in an effort
to alert the public to the falsity of the entire process.

That is what Mohammed did. We know he was tortured, because his
response to the obligatory question about his treatment during his
years of detention is redacted. We also know that he was tortured,
because otherwise there is no point for the US Justice (sic) Dept.
memos giving the green light to torture or for the Military
Commissions Act, which permits torture and death sentence based on
confession extracted by torture.

Mohammed's confession of crimes and plots is so vast that Katherine
Shrader of the Associated Press reports that the Americans who
extracted Mohammed's confession do not believe it either. It is
exaggerated, say Mohammed's tormentors, and must be taken with a grain
of salt.

In other words, the US torture crew, reveling in their success, played
into Mohammed's hands. Pride goes before a fall, as the saying goes.

Mohammed's confession admits to 31 planned and actual attacks all over
the world, including blowing up the Panama Canal and assassinating
presidents Carter and Clinton and the Pope. Having taken
responsibility for the whole ball of wax along with everything else
that he could imagine, he was the entire show. No other terrorists needed.

Reading responses of BBC listeners to Mohammed's confession reveals
that the rest of the world is either laughing at the US government for
being so stupid as to think that anyone anywhere would believe the
confession or damning the Bush regime for being like the Gestapo and KGB.

Humorists are having a field day with the confession: "'I'm a very
dangerous mastermind,' said Mohammed, who confessed to the kidnapping
of the Lindbergh baby, the Brink's robbery, St. Valentine's Day
Massacre, and the Lincoln and McKinley assassinations. Mohammed also
accepted responsibility for spreading hay fever and cold sores around
the world and for rained out picnics."

If there was anything remaining of the Bush regime not already
discredited, Mohammed's confession removed any reputation left.

The most important part of the Mohammed story is yet to make the
headlines. Despite having held and tortured hundreds of detainees for
years in Gitmo, and we don't know how many more in secret prisons
around the world, the US government has come up with only 14 "high
value detainees."

In other words, the government has nothing on 99 percent of the
detainees who allegedly are so dangerous and wicked that they must be
kept in detention without charges, access to attorneys and contact
with families.

And little wonder. The vast majority of detainees, alleged "enemy
combatants," are not terrorists captured by the CIA and brave US
troops. They are hapless persons who happened to be outside their
tribal or home territories and were kidnapped by criminal gangs or war
lords who profited greatly at the expense of the naive Americans who
offered bounties for "terrorists."

The US government does not care that innocent people have been
ensnared, because the US government desperately needs both to prove
that there are vast numbers of terrorists and to demonstrate its
proficiency in protecting Americans by capturing terrorists. Moreover,
the US government needs "dangerous suspects" that it can use to keep
Americans in a state of supine fearfulness and as a front behind which
to undermine constitutional protections and the Bill of Rights.

The Bush-Cheney Regime succeeded in its evil plot, only to throw it
all away by releasing the ridiculous confession by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Will Bush's totalitarian Military Tribunal now execute Mohammed on the
basis of his confession extracted by torture, or would this be seen
everywhere on earth as nothing but an act of murder?

If Bush can't have Mohammed murdered, the US government will have to
shut Mohammed away where he cannot talk and tell his tale. The US
government will have to replicate Orwell's memory hole by destroying
Mohammed's mind with mind-altering drugs and abuse.

It is to such depths that George Bush and Dick Cheney have lowered

March 17, 2007