Rosie O'Donnell, Paul Steiger Are Skeptical About Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Rosie O'Donnell knows the official account of 9/11 is a joke. She discusses WTC7 at length on her blog and now doubts the veracity of KSM's "confession" on The View. Go Rosie! But get ready for an onslaught against Rosie in the coming months. They will try to silence her, make her seem nuts or get her kicked off The View. From The Huffington Post:
Rosie O'Donnell, Paul Steiger Are Skeptical About Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Rachel Sklar | Posted Thursday March 15, 2007 at 05:16 PM
Yesterday, news broke that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, lieutenant of Osama bin Laden, had confessed to masterminding and committing a long list of terrorist acts, including 9/11, the Bali bombing, and the violent murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. He also led plots to assassinate Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and the Pope. Mohammed, who has been held at Guantanamo Bay since 2003, said that his confessions had not been made under duress. Still, he confessed to a whole lot of stuff. Which has made some people raise an eyebrow.
One of those people was Rosie O'Donnell on The View, who seemed troubled by his long period of captivity and more than a bit skeptical:
I think the man has been in custody of the American government, in secret CIA torture prisons in
Guantanamo Bay, where torture is accepted and allowed, and he finally is the guy who admits to doing everything. They finally found the guy. It's not that guy bin Laden. It's this guy they've had since '93. And look, this is the picture they released of him. Doesn't he look healthy?
Similarly, WSJ managing editor, expressed some skepticism to E&P's Joe Strupp: "We don't know the circumstance of what he is saying," Steiger said. "You don't know what might be boasting, what might be coercion." In that respect, he agreed with Elisabeth Hasselbeck, with whom Rosie had this exchange:
O'DONNELL: After hood on his head and beaten to death.
HASSELBECK: Do you know that a hood was on his head that he was beaten?
O'DONNELL: Oh dear God, Elisabeth.
HASSELBECK: He's still alive.
O'DONNELL: Why, since March 2003 has he not admitted it until now?
These are a lot of questions. What might be boasting? What might be coercion? Was he coerced? Was he tortured? Do authorities have any independent confirmation? Has he confessed to anything that was not public knowledge? Has he given up any information leading to future arrests? It seems that these are questions that are germane to those on both the right and the left, who, rightly, would seek to make decisions based on the fullest possible information, rather than assumptions based on a partial release of facts. Okay that might be giving Rosie the benefit of the doubt; according to the transcript at Newsbusters (and the video here at Hot Air), she sorta seems to be coming down on the side of KSM-as-victim, which not surprisingly doesn't make her too popular around those parts. (According to Council on Global Terrorism director Justine Rosenthal, with the appropriate torture-related caveats, "the confession is reasonable and certainly fits with what we know"). But then again, that's only what we know, since "[o]ther parts of the transcript were redacted by the military, and there were suggestions in it that Mr. Mohammed contended he was mistreated while in the custody of the C.I.A." And then of course there's this, per the NYT:
By tribunal rules, Mr. Mohammed was aided by a "personal representative," not a lawyer. His attempt to call two witnesses was denied. And the tribunal indicated that it would consider classified evidence not made available to Mr. Mohammed.
So really, it's very difficult to assert anything with certainty right now. But it's a little disquieting to listen to the laugher of the View audience and they try to figure out what they should be cheering for and what should bother them.
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Thank you Rosie!
You do your country proud ! Remember us truthers will always be in your corner.
I would suggest that you educate yourself to the max on all 9/11 topic's to prepair for the onslaut of
attacts on standing up for what is right.
I know your a strong anti war supporter,so just remember exposing the truth is the fastest way to get our troops home.
ask Elisabeth
Rosie, whenever I get into a discussion with one of my Bush apologist family members, I just ask them:
On what do you base your trust in this President?
He lied about warrantless wiretaps. He lied about torture and secret prisons and CIA kidnappings. He lied about WMD and blamed Iraq for 9/11. He lied about firing anyone involved in the Plame leak. He lied about Mission Accomplished. He lied about the cost of the war. He even lied about keeping Donald Rumsfeld.
So, what makes you trust him now?
That question usually gets a funny answer like: "Presidents have always lied."
To that, I guess the answer is: "Then he must be lying about 9/11!"
People who tolerate tyranny are part of the problem.
Justice deferred is justice denied-MLK
The lies keep comin'
I ask myself how much longer will people take to wake up and realize that this administration is so corrupt, they make the Mafia look like the Boy Scouts. Its a lot harder to remember lies than it is to just tell the f-ing TRUTH. The proof is in the pudding.
The Truth Never Lies
Watch Out Rosie
Joe Scarborough, has already started in on the Rosie smear campaign, it is actually amazing to see the propaganda wars in full swing, you can set your watch to it.
You can e-mail Joe Scraborogh below, he is the classic "partisan hack" that shouts down any information that might be relevant to a well informed debate.
joe@msnbc.com
My e-mail to him is below:
Dear Joe,
I guess you are trying to make nice with your fellow brown shirt Mr. Oreilly, who also has an agenda to smear "The View" and get Rosie fired, I'm sure it is just a coincidence. You see Joe, patriotic Americasn DO NOT trust this government and do not trust anything they say, including a confession by KSM that is clearly released for some kind of PR agenda. Besides going into the inaccuracies of the confession, like KSM personally killing Mr. Pearle, which is false, there is a video showing the gruesome event, it makes you think what else is false. There is also the obvious comparison between Jose Padilla and KSM, a prisoner can be made to confess to just about anything, mental torture and sensory depravation has become common place, according to testimony from former intel officers at Gitmo. I guess you advocate American Torture techniques and believe that the ends justify the means, most of the people of your ilk do. You see Joe, if you are honest with yourself, wou will need to admit, the American people have never seen a true investigation into the events of 9/11 and an open and transparent trial will never happen, if people like you continue to do the bidding of the government who obviously wish to shut down all debate on the subject. Are you a willing participant of this effort or are you being manipulated, I don't know or care.
Before you assisinate someone's character for neo con brown nose points, you should acknowledge the real underlying concerns Rosie and others have, 16% of Americans feel that we have been told the truth about 9/11 (Zogby Poll), 9/11 Families have dismissed the 9/11 commison report as a blatant cover up, 6 years later pentagon photos have still not been released, 6 years later the inspector general repport has not been released, WHY JOE? These are real questions for true patriots, but maybe Joe you should stick to picking on Rosie, that is much more important to our democracy, right Joe!
Dear Truthers
Please send her a thank you , and an invite to 9/11 Blogger.
I am not sure how deep she has looked into all the information that we have.Please send her links to 9/11 mysteries, Dr Ray Griffin's Madison speech,and inform her to all the video's we have on this site.
GO RO!!!
Rosie will survive all of this--she seems to have a solid fan base, and with good reason (for once, in the world of celebrities). She is obviously courageous, obviously has a strong moral compass, does not pretend to be perfect, has a great sense of humor--Rosie is someone whom Americans can trust, and a true role model to boot.
Let them try to smear Rosie, and watch their ratings slide. On the other hand, see how many more people will be watching the View. Where are the other celebs? I'm hoping to find out who among them is 1) uninformed 2) not brave enough and/or 3) against the truth coming out (and there are probably a few...)
Rosie has cemented her fame for a long time to come--let's see if there are any takers after her example!!
GO RO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hot Air?
Isn't Huffington supposed to be a 'progressive' oriented site? I guess political differences take a backseat to smearing the truth...
There's a lesson here for those of you truthers still in the 'conservative' vs. 'liberal' state of thinking.
KSM - The Magic Man
He is also the one "Who Let the Dogs Out".
-slaqqer
Rosie only links to Fetzer's site
She only links to Fetzer's site on her blog.
Please ask her to link to the real scholars site if she is going to have a scholars link - stj911.org
i already have, im sure a
i already have, im sure a lot of other people have too. add your voice.
Maybe she isn't aware of all the blog submissions
It could be that her webmaster is into the exotic theories, or is trying to discredit us and she may be unaware -- they could easily delete messages and she herself would never know.
I wonder if there's any other way to reach her.