The Third Stage of 9/11 Truth


Gandhi said

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

Recent indications are that we're in the third stage.

For example:

• Today police harassed 9/11 truthers outside ABC studios

• Kevin Barrett's wife has recently been harassed to get at Kevin

• The fascists have made loud hints that they might try to label 9/11 truthers (all 100 million of us!) as weakening America's ability to "defend" the "war on terror", or even of aiding and abetting terrorists

• And as we've all heard, in the last couple of months, people have been fired, punched, or referred for psychiatric treatment for speaking 9/11 truth.

Keep the faith, people. This is a difficult stage. But we're well on our way to the fourth stage . . . VICTORY.

Those who would trade safety for freedom deserve neither.
– Thomas Jefferson

Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.
- Hellen Keller

Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it.
- Goethe

Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear.
- Ambrose Redmoon

Courage is an everyday thing. When we look reality squarely in the eye and refuse to back away from our awareness, we are living courage.
- Anonymous

To have courage for whatever comes in life - everything lies in that.
- Mother Teresa

It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.
- Robert F . Kennedy

There is no act too small, no act too bold. The history of social change is the history of millions of actions, small and large, coming together at points in history and creating a power that governments cannot suppress.
- Howard Zinn, historian

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer (just like Gandhi's quote, but without the first stage in which "they ignore you")

It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
- Seneca, Native American

Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality which guarantees the others.
- Aristotle

Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway.
- John Wayne

Courage is doing what your afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared.
- Eddie Rickenbacker

Courage is fear holding on a minute longer.
- George Patton

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Be bold and courageous. When you look back on your life, you'll regret the things you didn't do more than the ones you did.
- H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face.
— Eleanor Roosevelt

Courage is contagious.
- Various

As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.
- Nelson Mandela

We remember our heroes most for perseverance during dark times.

Within each of us is a hidden store of energy. Energy we can release to compete in the marathon of life Within each of us is a hidden store of courage. Courage to give us the strength to face any challenge Within each of us is a hidden store of determination. Determination to keep us in the race when all seems lost.
- Roger Dawson

We must never despair; our situation has been compromising before; and it changed for the better; so I trust it will again. If difficulties arise; we must put forth new exertion and proportion our efforts to the exigencies of the times.
- George Washington

We must remember that one determined person can make a significant difference, and that a small group of determined people can change the course of history.
-Sonia Johnson

Never doubt that a small, group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
- Margaret Mead

It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.
- Samuel Adams

Positive attitude GW, spread

Positive attitude GW, spread it around...

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Arthur Schopenhauer

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Right, but he's missing the first stage:

first they ignore you.

Talking of "Fighting You"...

Anyone heard from the GREAT Youtuber


and his brilliant video website :

His mountains of research, valuable video clips have all just vanished...

I hope all is ok, that guy was a true star...

If anyone knows him, please let us know he's ok...

Thanks and best wishes

His YouTube Buddies have created a video dedicated to him... Check out the CBS WTC 93 footage (2mins 30secs in)

Halifaxion is gone, along with his website - AMERICA... WHAT'S GOIN' DOWN?

Sorry for the slightly off-topic post, but something inside makes me care

Yeah, this guy's work is very much missed....

....he is a really talented and valuable contributer in the effort to expose the Truth...I've had correspondence with him in the past and have passed this on to the last contact I had...hopefully he's still in the fight....

Thanks altruist...

Appreciated :-)

Best wishes

On this very topic of intimidation...

...check out this thread

at the JREF forum. A guy by the name of RAMS, or Robert A.M. Stephens, is threatening to prepare a class action lawsuit against Steven Jones and the Scholars for 9/11 Truth! From the thread:

""Dr, Jones,

I would wish to join your site.

I am slowly preparing a class action lawsuit of some large sum, in contest of the litigating accusations against the state of NY, city of NY, NY, FDNY, victims of 911 and the ongoing assault on founded information of which there were no explosives or traces of same found at the WTC region on and after 911 day. This case will be based on erroneous and ill founded charges of conspiracy and felony defamation. Intent to do malice by FDNY, and felony defamation of all parties related to control, rescue, First Responders, and any and all those who have given their lives at the WTC complex on 911 day and thereafter.

The first target of said lawsuit will be your organization which is here:

Thank you in advance.

I am

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX"

On post #12, he says:

"And just so you know, I have 3 degree in structure failure (air frame), mechanical failure, and a degree in advanced visual interpertation"

However, his own website which he displays on his sig, we learn that he is a painter! His own web bio lists nothing of the physics degrees. A google search of "Robert A. M. Stephens" gives his own site as the first result, and no verification of his alleged credentials can be found anywhere? Check out the rest of the Google search results and it gets even kookier and spookier...

Ha,Ha, the scholars should

Ha,Ha, the scholars should tell that Robert-dude to bring it on! I bet he'll never do it!

You need to Google

"Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®" :-)

This entity apparently likes to sue people:

It also likes to advocate genocide:

Read the end of its comment, beginning with Errata. It says we should have nuked the Middle East to glass. "Behold the Rage," indeed.

mmm... Just who is the party with standing here?

I fail to see how Mr. Stephens, himself, has standing to bring a suit. I don't see how he could be an "injured" party either.

Seems to me that if FDNY wanted to file a suit against Jones:

They would hire a hot shot lawyer and just do it. Not this guy. (didn't see legal expertise in his personally delivered bio)

I don't see how what Jones does defames FDNY or any other First Reponders who were involved AFTER the facts in evidence offered by Jones anyway.

If Robert A.M. Stephens indeed exists, he is probably just a NASA ('nother asshole seeking attention) .

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

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It's all so obvious, and it will feel so right....

The traditional mainstream media is straining to hold the floodgates. Everyday, another leak springs, through blogs or gootube, and another person realizes the whole thing, not just 9/11, but the last fifty years of the United States, has been one big massive scam of epic proportions. Americans are suddenly becoming aware that unthinkable crimes have been perpetrated and we have been misled by the ridiculous theater they call the nightly news. War was always the objective. 9/11/2001 made it so obvious. It was the grand finale to ensure they could claim the next century as their own as well. But they never factored in the power of the internet. Tens of millions of Americans are sharing details and information they were never supposed to see. The tip of the iceberg being revealed is horrifying. Yet it should have been so obvious all along. Of course they were behind 9/11. They were so arrogant that they practically told us they were going to do it. They thought we were too stupid to realize. But we aren't. And we are exposing them. It will be a difficult process but a necessary one. Once complete, our country will be able to move on to greatness. Our plight and the measures we take to ensure such crimes never happen again will inspire the rest of the world, especially those who are still ruled by the corrupt and soulless. It will be a great movement of mankind, ushering a new age of reason and kindness. It will be our new American century.

Holy crap. I just blacked out.

You okay?


That was supposed to be a

That was supposed to be a joke, like I blacked out and said a bunch of stuff and then woke up? not that funny I realize.

Yeah, I wasn't sure

Glad just a joke...

Please provide more information

Do you have any links to stories about people being "fired, punched, or referred for psychiatric treatment for speaking 9/11 truth"?

I'm not sure if Kevin Barrett's wife being booed out of the room constitutes harassment , especially where she says she left in disgust. (I admire her for going, as it took guts).
Also, saying that it was "to get at Barrett" suggests harassment in her workplace or some unrelated situation, not an event that was about Barrett.

And not to condone the suppression of free speech, but unfortunately, police harassment of protesters is not limited to 9/11 truthers.

I suspect that the protesters being in front of ABC Studios was the reason. Again not to condone or suggest that such more effective protests should not continue, but I would not expect this to happen at all 9/11 protests.


we do have evidence of people being threatened with violence - fired - blackballed from working - houses threatened to be blown up - anonymous calls - poison pen letters sent to people's home addresses - internet campaigns of designed to disrupt and defame - attorneys threatened with disbarment - meetings disrupted - and on and on and on

these things are being reported and investigated. don't let the silence fool you.

I'm not letting the silence fool me

If these things are happening, they should be made public.

I know about your views on Internet disruption, and have said all I need to say about that. But what I asked about was a statement that Barrett's wife was "harassed," when the reported facts don't show that. I also asked about a statement that the police are escalating suppression of free speech about 9/11, which may be true but requires more evidence than an incident in front of ABC Studios, which may not be representative. Finally, I asked about incidents of violence and referral to psychiatric treatment.

Now you are talking about threats to life and livelihood, but with no evidence provided.

Kevin Ryan's case is one case I am aware of. I can certainly see workplace retaliation happening, including coerced psychiatric evaluations. However, I am concerned that on the one hand, your statements are alarmist and unnecessarily chilling of activism, and on the other hand, am concerned that such incidents, particularly threats of violence, are not being openly discussed if they are in fact taking place. So again, I ask that concrete information be provided.

I don't want to sound unnecessarily critical of George Washington's point, because it's a very good one. I just want to know more.