CBS NY Covers O Donnells Comments, Popular Mechanics Attacks Truth Movement

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O'Donnell, Sheen Back 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
Stars Cite Movie As Evidence Of Government Conspiracy

Andrew Kirtzman

(CBS) NEW YORK A controversial new film about 9/11 is raising eyebrows, not only for its content, but also for the people involved in the project: Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen.

The sitcom actor and talk show hostess have both become spokespeople for the 9/11 conspiracy movement.

"If the government is lying about flight 93, is it hard to believe the rest is a lie?" That line can be heard on the video "Loose Change," which has been floating around the Internet for years, but now Sheen is in talks with Magnolia Pictures to narrate a new version of the video and redistribute it.

Sheen believes the government may have been behind the attacks, and said so in a recent interview.

"I have a hard time believing a fireball traveled down the elevator over 1100 feet, and still had the explosive energy to destroy the lobby as it was described," Sheen said on "The Alex Jones Show."

Meanwhile, O'Donnell has been using her Web site to reprint excerpts from the 9/11 conspiracy site,

The conspiracy theorists believe that the government blew up the twin towers and covered up the evidence by making it appear that commercial airplanes flew into the buildings. They also believe al-Qaida had nothing to do with the attacks. "I know it's hard to imagine the government would intentionally murder almost 3000 innocent people, but once you begin to accept that possibility you can never go back to the 19 Arabs," the movie's narrator goes on to say.

James Meigs is Editor in Chief of Popular Mechanics magazine, which published a book debunking the conspiracy theories put forth in the film and online. He says "Loose Change" has no merit whatsoever.

"It is a brilliantly patched-together stew of all kinds of misconceptions, misquotes and real mistakes about how things really worked on that day," said Meigs.

Magnolia Films founder Mark Cuban, who also owns the Dallas Mavericks, said they're also looking for a film telling the other side of the story, saying "we like controversial subjects."

Encourage Cuban to step it up...


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Will censor the story on Rosie & 9/11 Truth now that the MSM (CBS) has picked it up?

Buzz it and see:

This is going to be interesting. To date,, a "user-driven" news website has censored or deleted EVERY single 9/11 Truth story having to do with Rosie O'Donnell.

Will they continue this trend now that the mainstream media (CBS) has picked up on the story.

What do you think?

P.S., I'm loving this!


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"O'Reilly also specifically

"O'Reilly also specifically said that it wasn't a threat, and not to take it as such."

the fact that he had to say that should tell you something. but you are a fucking moron so i understand how you could miss that.

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"Magnolia Films founder Mark

"Magnolia Films founder Mark Cuban, who also owns the Dallas Mavericks, said they're also looking for a film telling the other side of the story, saying "we like controversial subjects."

You mean like Flight 93? Or Stone's flick? Or the Nova special? Or the 1001 documentaries on Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda currently infesting the airwaves? We ALREADY HAVE the other side of the story!

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there's an mp3 of the audio here




Joe Scarborough just (9 pm EDT) previewed a segment about Rosie and 9/11, not sure when it will be on, but somebody should tape and post it


With 30 million viewers, Rosie going public will help the Truth Movement. Great job Rosie.

Everyone should write a letter to this clown. Here's mine...

That was a hatchet piece you did today.

Why didn’t you present a fair picture of the 911 “Truth” Movement (not 9/11 “Conspiracy” Movement)?

Why no mention of World Trade Center Building 7? It is the “beyond a reasonable doubt” smoking gun.

Why did you talk about the “no plane theory”? The no plane theory is a disinformation theory that has not been accepted by the vast majority of the mainstream 9/11 Truth Movement.

Why did you not reach out to Dylan Avery, the filmmaker of Loose Change? Why did you inaccurately report how many times it has been viewed on the Internet?

Why did you try to paint a picture of conspiracy “nuts” as opposed to the scientists, professionals, former government officials, former FBI and CIA officials, firefighters, rescue workers, etc. we are? Is Andreas Von Bulow a nut? Dr. David Ray Griffen? William Rodriguez? What about the families of the victims of 9/11 who want a new investigation? Are they nuts, too?

The Popular Mechanics Debunking 9/11 book is a sham and has been debunked itself 100 times over. How dare you present only their false comments with no rebuttal from anyone within the movement itself?

Your story was poorly researched at best. At worst it was an attempt to hide the truth and perpetrate the lies put forth by our government. Either way, shame on you.

Ken Eichler


"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be.... The people cannot be safe without information. When the press is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe." Thomas Jefferson

"The conspiracy theorists

"The conspiracy theorists believe that the government blew up the twin towers and covered up the evidence by making it appear that commercial airplanes flew into the buildings."

Nice. This guy's a pro.

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No doubt they'll try to latch onto that utter nonsense!


Only about 20 people in the entire frick'n WORLD subscribe to that BS!
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

"commercial airliners"

its not "no" airliners but a certain type of airliners

"military" airliners is more like it.

Popular Mechnics Twits will soon receive their just reward.

No, they were extremely likely to have been commercial jets

>>"military" airliners is more like it.

That will only make us look nuts to the average American and we have zero evidence that those planes were anything other than what they were reported to be -- commercial airliners with real passengers. Whether they were modified or whatever, we have zero evidence, and claiming that we know they weren't the planes everyone believes them to be only discredits us to the extreme.

Apparently this is what most want, but inside and outside the movement.

average american thinks bush is nuts

lots of eye witness reports of the planes being gray with no or very little colors including the Fox Reporter on the scene as featured in "In Plane Site".

I wouldn't worry about it . . . . its coming out. If people don't want to believe the truth, what kind of airliner it is won't make a bit of difference.

The page below is a non-commercial page that would be good to send the uninitiated because it ends with an embed of loose change.

IPS has a lot of errors and hoaxes

>>lots of eye witness reports of the planes being gray with no or very little colors including the Fox Reporter on the scene as featured in "In Plane Site".

IPS has a number of hoaxes in it. See the refutations -


A Critical Review of WTC 'No Plane' Theories

The Complete "No Planes on 9/11" Timeline

The Phantom Planes Meme


Pod People hijack the 9/11 truth movement

ERROR: 'A Pod Was Attached to the South Tower Plane'

The "Pod People" And The Plane That Crashed Into the Pentagon

". . . features both an exceedingly annoying crackpot theorist and outlandish, unsubstantiated allegations about blurrily pixelized photos that don't really show anything. But there's something still very raw and powerful about the imagery from 9/11 that Plane Site so gleefully throws around in its half-assed allegations that 9/11 was a staged event, and the role that the film ultimately fills is that of the cheapest, most unintelligent form of cashing-in on the day it so poorly tries to redefine." review
"Nor does the presentation explain, if the attack planes were military, what happened to the commercial planes. It hints that they might have been shot down over the ocean. The trouble is that they weren't necessarily over the ocean. And who remembers an Atlantic crash of an airliner where debris such as luggage did not wash up all up and down the Eastern seaboard? If airliners went down in the sea, the secret could not have been kept for long."

See my post at the end

it was a reply to yours.

It was a intelligence operation, if they rigged WTC7 with explosives, they do most probably switched the planes, too, as long as we concentrate on "Proof us the alleged flights hit the buildings" and the inconsistencies in the air traffic control (why was there no off-route recorded in the transcripts, what was the real reason for transponder off, how could flight USA585 saw AA11 in 29.000 feets minutes before it allegedly crashed) we do no harm to our movement.

But the "Plane vs. No Plane" debate is a distraction attempt that we should avoid to adress.

>>"I have a hard time

>>"I have a hard time believing a fireball traveled down the elevator over 1100 feet, and still had the explosive energy to destroy the lobby as it was described," Sheen said on "The Alex Jones Show."

This is too bad. There are other explanations for this and it is thus weak, which is why it is highlighted here. He should focus on what the scientists talk about -- the speeds of the collapses, the molten metal, the thoroughness of the pulverization of the debris, the history of building collapses, etc.

Weak claims --
basement bombs - only based on eyewitness testimony, nothing else, no other means to back up these claims
angle-cut columns - this has not been strongly verified . . . there is still much debate so it is inappropriate for public consumption
seismic evidence - weak and debatable, misinterpreted
"power down" - only one person reported this -- need many and documentation

It's nice that Rosie focused on the strong evidence of the collapse of B7 and finally linked to

I fear that Sheen will collaborate in the promotion of hoaxes for whatever version of LC he is involved in, like "military planes" at the WTC and weak evidence like "basement bombs," which has only one type of support. The basement bombs idea defies logic -- the towers did not collapse from the bottom, they were destroyed from the top down and basement bombs were not necessary for that. They just blasted the crap out of it as it moved downward, no basement bombs necessary.

Once Sheen comes out saying that commercial jets did not the WTC we are all discredited.

Someone should really try to reach him on this. I urge people to attempt to set him straight on this before a slick production emerges that makes these claims and makes us all look nuts. He's spoken of this before and he needs someone to talk to him.

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I thought about this today, that it is also a neglected "smoking engine".

Here is a photo:

DR Griffin is supposedly working with Avery as fact checker who then advises Sheen. Alex Jones also speaks with sheen.
Sheen is not going to say anything stupid.

Of course, this is only my opinion.

Things are heating up!! 

Things are heating up!! 

military planes

boeing sells its 737 to the airforce - it gets a different paint job but its the same plane.

wtc7 collapsing is the rich subject matter. no plane hit it and there are hours of video footage of firemen and other rescue people talking about explosions and controlled demolition and of being warned that the building was coming down.

We want a new investigation . . . . we don't know all the answers . . . but we know that the Bush crime family is lying.

Their lips are moving.

Positive or Negative... is good

What we want, is to be seen in the MSM.

Positive or Negative, people hearing about the video "LooseChange" (for the first time) even if the rant has a negative tone, might be curious enough to go online and take a "look-see"...which is a good thing...Our questions are valid and Popular Mechanics didn't even try to answer any of them.

Not only that, with the "debunkers" of our truth movement so hot headed and insulting to the 250k viewers who took the time to watch the film, well, that just might make a few more viewers of this news segment curious why the Popular Mechanics guy was so adamate in his insult.

Additionally, the celebs have a lot of fans who most likely will be interested in what all the comotion is about and take a look.

All in all, at this stage, with our numbers growing each day, any press is good press!

Stay real in your truth.

5 million bubba - and this is just this posting

The current number at google video is . . .
Loose Change 2nd Edition Recut
All time views: 5,112,022 »


a quarter million people saw the video 20 times each..... it is the only explanation?

Together in Truth!

I heard Dylan Avery say six months..

ago that he estimated 100+ million views.
It has been in the top ten (#i for a while) Google in Japan for about five weeks now. Along with three other Truth Videos. It was hot in Israel for a while. Also recently in POLAND, Ireland, Great Britain.

I go to Google Video Top 100 frequently to get a feel for how we are doing.

I should have used quotation marks...

sorry about that...the "250K" was the news cast's "remarkable" (clearly understated!) # of viewers...sometimes type my thoughts, on the way out the door & am incomplete in the context. Thanks for the correx!

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O'reilly Attacked 'Loose Change' Tonight

Rosie O’Donnell has got the propaganda machine churning out it’s swill in full effect.

It’s the same media frenzy that we saw when Charlie Sheen came out in support of 9/11 truth. The media is scared and rushing in to discredit the movement. Expect to see more of this kind of damage control every time another celebrity comes on board. Especially if they are a liberal. The tide is starting to turn.

Bill O’reilly attacked Loose Change tonight. He said that people who believe this stuff hate the country. He also said that it’s a disgrace to the 9/11 families and that Charlie Sheen’s career will be ruined if he associates himself with it. One guy on there said that the buildings crinkled like potato chips. They went after Mark Cuban as well who seems to have questions.

Of course he doesn’t tell you that many of the 9/11 families agree with the theories.

Joe Scarborough had his scab patrol on to disparage Rosie as well. They said that Barbara Walters will ruin her career by putting up with her on The View. Joe said that if one of his co-hosts ever said what Rosie did that he’d inform them that they’re not allowed to be on the show any longer. From freedom to fascism in true fashion. These girl thingys are all cowards.

They likened the movie to very convincing propaganda. Eventually the people will see what the true propaganda is.
The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. ~ Dante Alighieri

Kieth Olbermann attacked Beck for attacking Rosie!

That's what I heard. No clip, yet.

He's SO close to coming out for us, I can taste it and feel it deeply. It's like it's already happened..
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

Here it is!

They are petrified. O'Reilly he knows that their arguments fall flat, so to speak...he's worried. They're all running scared, probably ran home to watch Loose Change 2nd Edition, hoping against hope that this new release won't be much of an improvement.

I smell the blood in the water folks..

“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

you keep leaving out the

you keep leaving out the ".com" part of that link ;)

This may be of concern..

Posted at the Loose Change Forums

by water_bender

here's my issue with the subject and something noone is mentioning.

dylan are you aware that magnolia filed a federal suit against a youtube user named halifaxion? do you know who this person is? well the law suit was filed to find this out. this particular user was a popular 9/11 conspiracy video contributor. after the lawsuit was filed his account was suspended on both youtube and ifilm. you do also realize that if magnolia distributes loose change that it will no longer be available on google or youtube? at all. not in part or in whole. that means that your primary source of watchers will be cut off. completely. is this your intent or is it inadvertant? i for one will lose alot of respect for you guys should this happen. i'll also be a lot more likely to beleive the allegations of being disinfo and also that you're in it for the money now. your response to this would be appreciated.

article about halixion

“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

Cuban is notoriously

Cuban is notoriously anti-share. I know this because I'm a basketball fan. His blog is basically a series of diatribes against google video and youtube. Definitely NOT the type of person you want to get into bed with for a viral video. However, if he can guarantee a widespread theatrical run and a prominent space on video shelves it would be worth it.

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could this be...

the real reason for magnolia's involvement?

if there is a trade off, theatre release and no goobles, then i'll support the theatre release and certainly buy a dvd copy of FC. i get really sick of watching poor quality goobles anyway.

it would be a blast to be in a theatre full of people who see this stuff for the first time. my hope would be that there would be a lot of angry faces and comments afterwards. that would make for good goobles.

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

Halifaxion is.... of the real unsung heroes of the Movement....he brought the Truth to countless people through his Internet's a real loss that his sites have gone away....


Did anyone notice that the article says NOTHING about a THEATER release??? It just mentions that it will be REDISTRIBUTED.......redistributed dvd's? please.....i want this in THEATERS nationwide but ever since i heard about this going into theaters nationwide i've had my doubts. I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT!!!!

There's no economic reason

There's no economic reason why LCFC should not get a threatrical release paralleling F/911. It would be a MASSIVE success. I guess we'll see if there are any vestiges of Free speech left in the US of A.

Edit: a boycott of Magnolia by right-wing groups could be cited as an economic reason for not granting it a threater run, but that's hogwash. People don't have the attention span to remember which production company produced which film. Disney backed out of F/911; it was picked up by Miramax.

They should petition Lions Gate; those guys LOVE controversy.

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There would be an economic reason...

...for the BFEE and NWO for this film not getting a theatrical release..

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

For sure...but not Cuban's

For sure...but not Cuban's company. He would rake in the cash. Miramax hasn't suffered from promoting F/911, as far as I'm aware.
Granted Loose Change is far more controversial but it's of the same muckraking ilk.

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What if...

...the BFEE and NWO pay Cuban handsomely?

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

Popular Mechanics

As I see it, there are only two possibilities regarding the Popular Mechanics gang:

1) They really believe what they are saying
2) They know the truth and are complicit in the cover-up

Which one is it? Both possibilities defy logic:
- if the former, why would scientific journalists not at least be curious about why 3 skyscrapers fell into their own footprint as a result of fire?
- if the latter, why would they knowingly cover up one of the most horrific crimes in history? For money? How much money? You couldn't pay me enough to do what they're doing. I think I'm gonna barf.

I don't get it.

there's another possibility

and actually its what advocates of the official story say about us:

3) Psychological. People like their world view. It isn't like all the people at popular mechanics got money to lie about the story. The truth is just too difficult.

News editor at The Watchman Report,, delivering 9/11 truth to the Christian community

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Totally Off Topic

But fascinating discovery... especially in light of the former Governor of Arizona's admission on UFO's.

Yes... UFO's.

Since the government is clearly hiding 9/11 Truth from us... I find myself often wondering what else they are hiding from us.

The former Governor of Arizona has admitted that the government wil lie in order to prevent widespread panic. That in and of itself should cause widespread panic.

What else are they lying about? I'm just sayin...

Check this out:

Uh, that looks like a

Uh, that looks like a balloon to me and I don't see why you'd think it's a good idea to start talking about UFOs here.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not...

But I find it interesting that we have a former U.S. Governor admitting on the record (see CNN video) that he lied about a UFO sighting in order to avoid widespread panic.

You draw your own conclusions. I find this whole thing fascinating. Just passing along some information.

Not trying to tarnish the 9/11 Truth movement at all. That's why I'm posting this as a comment, not a blog.

BTW, that does not appear to be a balloon IMHO. Check the reaction from the reporter in the second vid.

-Chris Rose

I find the the Arizona story

I find the the Arizona story interesting too, but I think it's a mistake to associate these controversies. I will watch that second video though.



Try to ignore the resident 'thought police', Chris.

'misterguy's' either a simpleton or a shill. (I'm leaning toward shill.) Anyone with basic reading comprehension skills can tell you are merely associating this with "what other lies have we been fed". This shill's job is to stamp out that line of thinking.

Anyway, very interesting clips but I'm indifferent, whether we're being lied to about the knowledge of alien existence is just not an issue that merits concern at the moment. After all WWIII & prison camps are upon us. But what pisses me off too no end is people who think we're so stupid we can't see through their lame attempts at thought control.

OFF-Topic answer

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I appreciate this Chris. I'm also watching every area to get the full picture and be PREPARED for anything. It all started with my personal 9/11 investigation, but as an artist myself I really wanted to know the whole truth, mass psychology, alternative/ancient history, occultism (hidden knowledge), secret societies (thule society, skull&bones, illuminati, rosecrucians etc), CFR, ufo's (nazi ufo's, fakes, real), cropcircle phenomena, spiritualism, symbolism, dreams (jung etc), artificial intelligence, connection between sacred geometry and music theory, body-mind-heart intelligence, holographic reality (different layers/dimensions), mathematical formula of the universe (google Rodin math)... the list goes on.

(As I know the elite (manipulators of our age) have the knowledge... so I decided to play with the same rules, but with a positive motive, without fear of death and nothing to lose).

It's a possibility that the shadow government will fake alien invasion (they have the technology). Who knows, they have been testing ufo technology for decades. I personally believe both are true... connections between crop circles and ufo sightings (which I believe genuine) are remarkable. And I've witnessed one sighting myself too (HIGH speed light turning at 90 degree angle... impossible physics).

Right now they seem to be playing the global warming - human cause - scam to bring about the order. But I suspect a lot more. I'm quite concerned about the de-population agenda as well. We need to boost our immune system to the normal level. I'd say that is a high priority.

Interesting world we have...

For those who are somewhat curious... one site I like better than many others is: . It covers a huge spectrum of topics and news that are controversial to say the least, but will ring a truth bell inside some keen explorers or our times.

A really wise teacher, Michael Tsarion's googlevideo-presentations on some of the little heard, but important subjects:

Also google Jordan Maxwell, Alan Watt to hear more about the deep conspiratoral world.



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This gives me an idea Robert.

Maybe the theatres that sho LCFC will sell their popcorn in bags that are printed like the cover of the 9/11 Omission Report.


from pancakes, to potato chips, to popcorn.

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

"9/11 Conspiracy Movement"

That was the United States of America for about five years beginning September 11, 2001. Perhaps Kirtzman misses those times.

We have no evdence, that something other hit

the towers, that might be true, but the oct can not prove conclusively that the alleged flights hit the buildings.

The "Plane vs. No Plane" discussion is a pure distraction attempt from this point.

German researcher C.C. Walther worked that out. Try it yourself: Concentrate on flight route changes and when they were reported by the flight control.
Then you have it.

AA11 e.g. was not off route by 8.41 am.
Otherwise the Controllers would have gone wild with it:
See the transcripts:


Free Codes

8:40:47 USA583: New York do a favor were you asked to look for an aircraft, an American flight about about 8 or 9 o'clock 10 miles south bound last altitude 290 — no one is sure where he is.

8:41:07 USA583: Yea we talked about him on the last frequency we spotted him when he was at our 3 o'clock position. He did appear to us to be at 29,000 feet. We're not picking him up on TCAS. I'll look again and see if we can spot him at 24.

8:40:20 R42: No, it looks like they shut off their transponder that's why the question about it.

8:41:28 UAL175: New York UAL175 heavy.

8:41:07 R42: UAL 175 go ahead.

8:41:32 UAL175: We figured we'd wait to go to your center. We heard a suspicious transmission on our departure from BOS sounds like someone keyed the mike and said everyone stay in your seats.

8:41:51 R42: O.K. I'll pass that along.

8:41:56 UAL175: It cut out.

8:42:00 R42: IGN 93 line.

8:42:01 IGN: Go ahead.

8:42:03 R42: UAL 175 just came on my frequency and he said he heard a suspicious transmission when they were leaving BOS everybody stay in your seats that's what he heard as the suspicious transmission just to let you know.

8:42:50 USA583: Center where do you place him in relation to 583 now?

8:42:55 R42: He's off about 9 o'clock and about 20 miles looks like he's heading southbound but there's no transponder no nothing and no one's talking to him.

O'Reilly attacking Loose Change, and warning, BEGGING Sheen!

“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

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You're BANNED!

Nah, nah, n-nah nah!

I wonder what you DID, besides being a prat?

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Urgent!! Release Loose Change today in the theatres.

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On February 27, 1933, a fire broke out in the Reichstag (government) building in Germany. The next day Hitler and his Minister of the Interior Hermann Goering drafted the Reichstag Fire Decree, which suspended civil liberties and gave the central government total power. The decree was signed into law within days. After that point, opposition to Hitler became MUCH more difficult.

It is urgent to release Loose Change today in the theatres.
We should not wait !!!!!!!

With insanity like we have at the top (bush and cheney) can we really afford to wait to put Loose Change out.
Can we comfortably wait a few more months before its released ?
I think NOT.

Are they really going to sit and wait for us to put them all in prison ?

If they start WW 3 by a direct attack or by a false flag attack. Either way they suspend civil liberties immediately and opposition becomes much more difficult.

Can we really afford to wait ??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let us seize the opportunity to release it now.

-- Speaking of False Flag attacks
   Towers Of Deception - Barry Zwicker
   Chapter 7 titled "Gunpowder, Treason and Plot:
                      From 1605 through 9/11 to Today" -
   When you only have one act you can do, you keep doing it.
      - CIA veteran John Sherwood quoted by Joseph A. Trento 
                        in The Secret History of this CIA.

I always

liked Mark Cuban....Now i like him even more.Thanks Mark.