Dennis Kucinich To Launch An Investigation Into "A Narrow Portion" Of 9/11
Kucinich brings hard-nosed arguments - timesunion.com
Presidential candidate touts his consistent anti-war stance as an advantage over fellow Democrats
By DAN HIGGINS, Staff writer
First published: Monday, March 26, 2007ALBANY -- Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich predicted Sunday that by the time the New Hampshire primary arrives early next year, so many Americans will have tired of the war in Iraq that his peace platform will make him the choice for the Democratic nomination.
"They all voted for (war funding)," Kucinich said of his fellow Democratic opponents -- former Sen. John Edwards, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama. He said he is the only Democrat who can boast he's always been against the war, which, he told a packed house Sunday evening in Albany, "was based on lies."
Kucinich, a Democratic congressman from Ohio, was the guest speaker at Upper Hudson Peace Action's 25th anniversary dinner. Some 300 people squeezed into the basement of First Church in Albany.
The potluck supper featured many vegetarian dishes, but it was Kucinich who brought the red meat.
He ran down his platform of hot topics among progressive voters: ending the occupation of Iraq, canceling the North American Free Trade Agreement and working toward a universal, single-payer system of health care.
He also said that as chairman of a House subcommittee on domestic policy, he plans to launch an investigation of "a narrow portion" of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. He offered few details, but said his subcommittee would be looking at "a few, specific discrepancies in the public record." The 9/11 Commission that published its final report in 2004 never resolved some conflicting facts, Kucinich said. He announced his own look at 9/11 in answer to a question from an audience member. The man complained that the 9/11 Commission was too tied to the Bush administration to offer an unbiased report, and Kucinich agreed.
Supporters who attended Sunday's event said they'll vote for him because he's speaking boldly about issues that other candidates seem to be ducking.
"I like his attitude," said Voorheesville resident Ann Eberle. She said she especially liked Kucinich's role in drafting a bill in 2005 that calls for the U.S. to create a Cabinet-level Department of Peace.
Earlier Sunday, Kucinich appeared in Schenectady, greeting supporters at Arthur's Market in the Stockade neighborhood. He said he would return to the Capital Region this election cycle.
Higgins can be reached at 454-5523, or by e-mail at dhiggins@timesunion.com.
Why not go for the gusto and have an entirely new investigation? If you agree that "the 9/11 Commission was too tied to the Bush administration to offer an unbiased report" then you should. - Jon
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Just sent this to Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg, Monica Gabrielle, Michele Little, Donna Marsh O'Connor, and Bob McIlvaine...
Dear family members... Now might be the time to get the family members that think as we do to start a push for Kucinich to start an entirely new investigation. After all, if he agrees that "the 9/11 Commission was too tied to the Bush administration to offer an unbiased report" then there's no reason in world for him not to. Rep. Kucinich's contact information is as follows:
Lakewood Office
14400 Detroit Avenue
Lakewood, Ohio 44107
Phone (216)228-8850
Fax (216)228-6465
Parma Office
Parmatown Mall
7904 Day Drive
Parma, Ohio 44129
Phone (440)845-2707
Fax (440)845-2743
Washington Office
2445 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515
Phone (202)225-5871
Fax (202)225-5745
I hope everyone is well.
Jon
"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton
a narrow portion?
snif snif--I smell hedging! Kucinich has to go farther than this to live down the reputation he earned in 04 as a bogus "peacenik appeaser" candidate. And I say this as someone who supported him with $$. Unless he makes more definitive and appropriate statements about 9/11, he should be considered a longshot for actually helping the truth movement. Baby steps are fine but they won't get him far with this truther...
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All we need is a small investigation
Because it will snow ball once the questions start.
Justice deferred is justice denied-MLK
i hope that's true
but I ain't gonna hold my breath...
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Spread the news!
Pls. inform the news media.
I've got the information that DemocracyNow has been already informed, so if not today, they might cover it throughtout this week.
Whoa--AMY GOODMAN is on the case?
She's so wonderful. She has a way of being fair and balanced with the issue of 9/11 that would make OReilly blush. I hope she has Jim Meigs and the other Popular Mechanics shills on her show--that would be GREAT! The way she had them go head to head with a couple of teenage filmmakers was, like, AWESOME!
No wonder she always looks tired--she's working tirelessly for the truth about 9/11 to come out while PRETENDING she's not!
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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
I said that her programme
I said that her programme might cover it not that they are on the case. I share your concerns, she attacked DRG, and even the famous british journalist who questioned the war on terror and int. al qaeda as a bogus concept from his longtime Iraq exposure.
On the other hand lot of the reporting is good, they had great series on the CIA drugs trafficing..
The budget of the show is now in a couple of millions through syndication and donations so she is in a way embbeded and in a position not to rock a boat.
Here is a very good timeline of Goodman's and 9/11:
http://www.oilempire.us/democracy-now.html
Well, honestly, to some extent is the 9/11 movement to blame as well, we have spooks and not credible people all over (Fetzer). So if we can't sort our own problems and credibility why shall the left mainstream take us seriously..?
Now with the era of "Tarpley's truthsquads" the times are changing the impact is more noticable.
huh?
if we can't sort our own problems and credibility why shall the left mainstream take us seriously..?
Simple answer: because we are right, and they know it.
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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
Why should we take them seriously?
The left mainstream are blind to 9/11, purposefully or not. I don't take them seriously, especially after CounterPunch published Manuel Garcia's risible "The Physics of 9/11."
There's nothing you can really say to these people. They have shown the unwillingness to face reality until it becomes politically acceptable. Why cater to their craven behavior?
And forget the spooks, who are the most craven and despicable of all. There's no way of really knowing who is and is not a spook, and speculation and worry about it serves their purposes.
Maybe her funding has changed, but last I checked . . .
Not long ago, a fine young man told Amy Goodman to tell her audience that 9/11 was an inside job. She replied, "I don't tell you what to say. You don't tell me what to say." That young man should have included a check.
See, Amy Goodman is told what to say by the Ford Foundation, one of her major donors. According to the Ford Foundation's 2002 Annual report, available on their web site, a $75,000 grant was made to Democracy Now to "continue incorporating the aftermath of the September 11th attacks into future broadcasts."
Not only is this "telling her what to say," but it implies that she should not look into the attacks themselves. http://www.fordfound.org/publications/recent_articles/docs/ar2002/ar2002...
Go to page 135 or search document for Democracy Now.
Worse still is Goodman's connection to Halliburton via the Ford Foundation.
Please visit http://theyrule.net and seach for a map linking Alcoa Inc (whose board member Kathryn Fuller is the Chairman of the Ford Foundation) with Halliburton. You will find that only Citigroup separates Amy Goodman's "independent" journalism from Dick Cheney's death machine.
Seems like interupting her with a bullhorn is letting her off easy.
For her sanctimonious declaration of independence, go here: http://www.democracynow.org/about.shtml
Justice deferred is justice denied-MLK
im gonna reserve judgement
im gonna reserve judgement until i see some action. he is a politician afterall.
"narrow" + "a few..."
"a few, specific discrepancies in the public record."
a FEW ? Sorry ??
im sure there are a few discrepancies in the report which one can solve without hurting anyone.
i know nothing about this guy and his record, but this sounds ,hm, not so great, imo.
D. Kucinich
Well, "this guy" stood up before the 2004 elections and called for the Iraq pull out and the wmd hoax.
Recently, he organized Congress expert hearing about the possibility or forthcomming US-Iran bound attack and the US/UK paramilitary actions inside the borders of Iran.
He is the peacnik/vegan wing of the Dem party, so no money no big influence but he is a voice.
If you think that Biden, Hitlery or Obama will say a word about problems with the 9/11 narrative without someone kicking their butts hard you are delusional.
ok,ok,
i guess i sounded a bit harsh here.
respect for kucinich.
i hope for the best.
and btw, no, i dont think any of those people you mention would go that far....
I applaud Mr. Kucinich
But I gotta say, it's Ron Paul all the way. 9/11 is a symptom of a much larger problem and he's not afraid to talk about it.
Ike warned us.
really?
when has Ron Paul delivered a strong 9/11 truth message in Congress or in public anywhere? sorry, but I don't believe in trumping up the lesser of evils--why hasn't Ron Paul done more?
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Why hasn't Ron Paul done more?
Dr. Paul knows all about the Federal Reserve. He is a Texan. He knows that Texan Ross Perot received a credible death threat (that the secret service could not protect him from) to his family in 1992, causing him to suspend his presidential campaign until it was irrelvant. He almost certainly has a good idea about who ordered the JFK hit and why. (Not to mention the more recent demise of Paul Wellstone).
Maybe Ron Paul knows how far he is allowed to go without being terminated, and 9/11 is too far.
From my post 02/21/2007...
http://www.911blogger.com/node/6377#comment-118422
On Kucinich:
""he and his wife have read "9/11 Synthetic Terror," ...
... in fact they in fact they have 4 copies of it!"
So, what are they using them for? Doorstops?
Maybe Kucinich knows another member of CONgress who would like to peruse his dog-eared copy.
I think he's got it down.
If that is true then, I say it's time to "git down". And, I don't mean dance.
I was also told that nearly everyone that works in his office has a PHD, and that when they research something they "get to the bottom of it."
And these "PhDs", they're gonna start researching this when? And what are they going to reseach? Intelligence failures?
So now Kucinich says that he want to open "an investigation of "a narrow portion" of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks."?
Excuse me. You can't read Tarpley's book and believe that only a narrow investigation is warranted.
I worry that Kucinich is going to be a 9/11 Truth energy sink. An abyss from which nothing returns.
I don't trust him now any more than I ever have.
BTW, in case you need a reminder, a new, fun gooble rebuke of the Apple/Obama thang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfANlT-DN6Y
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The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001
I think we all recognize the
I think we all recognize the difference between a Kucinich and a Kerry and a Bush issue-wise; one is not-too-bad, the other is horrid, the last is a nightmare.
The problem is that when Kucinich realized that his candidacy was tits up, he didn’t miss a step before starting to pimp for the war-mongerer Kerry. He didn’t call Kerry out – he supported him. That's a partisan, not a man of principle.
The many, MANY anti-war activists who devoted themselves body and soul to Kucinich during his anti-war campaign were utterly betrayed by his opportunistic flip-flop at the DNC.
We CANNOT hang our hopes on a politician.
Look at this way: Congressman Dennis Kucinich ABSTAINED in the House vote to support Israel's aggression against Lebanon. He could not find it in his heart to vote AGAINST the mass bombing and killing of children when it came to Israel; instead he played the 'neutral' card.
If he can't even vote against a gross violation of international law and a crime against humanity that is FULLY IN THE OPEN, I'm not sure I want this little man heading up 911 truth.
I appreciate the comments about a crack becoming a fissure becoming a gaping hole, but let's keep things in perspective. A politician is a politician. PRESSURE him, don't thank him, and for God's sake don't put all your eggs in one politician.
I’m sure most of you are already savvy, just making the point.
The only reason I’m vehement on this subject is because I'd hate to see the 911 truth movement go the way of the anti-war movement: spend thousands of hours campaigning for a politician like Kucinich instead of rallying your countrymen, get stabbed in the back and be left holding your (ahem) while Hillary takes center stage.
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Guys you have to be more
Guys you have to be more realistic. The chances we get some full scale investigation now are virtually zero, so every drop like Kucinich is good.
The only real "hope" is some big clusterfuck and cockup like iraqi resistance blowing up half of the greenzone, war with Iran, futher xx% devalutation of the usd and meltdown of the US economy and resulting unrest or other unpleasant calalyzing events.
If you think that the $trillion establishment hydra would allow to be investigated deeply by itself in normal conditions your are delusional.
Again, the only hope is to get prepared as much as possible in case the history will provide us some add hoc opportunity. The chances are slim, but better to be prepared.
"Guys you have to be more
"Guys you have to be more realistic."
I think that's precisely what people are being -- realistic. We understand that politicans cannot be trusted and therefore we are urging activism instead of "follow the leader". If something comes of K.'s "narrow" investigation -- great -- if not, we're still on the ball and continuing to spread the word.
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"The only real "hope" is
"The only real "hope" is some big clusterfuck and cockup like iraqi resistance blowing up half of the greenzone"
How is this the "only" hope? I'm all for hard-bitten realism but to say that our "only" hope lies in further violence in Iraq is just plain wrong. There are a thousand-and-one paths to paradise.
The Eleventh Day of Every Month
Hope lies in credibility
of a congressional investigation, which is a newsworthly event, even if it doesn't succeed. Kucinich should be respected for this. Even Amy Goodman shouldn't be scared to cover this!
I recently saw Ron Paul on C-SPAN for over an hour and there was zero mention of 9/11. Like all libertarian-minded people he is good by the constitution but not an advocate for us in my view.
I agree that we should try to get the 9/11 families behind Kucinich and his efforts to maximize the impact.
Hope also in bonding with anti-war movement.
The funny thing is...
Go ask a "debunker" why Dennis Kucinich would want to have a new investigation into 9/11, even if it's just a "narrow portion." The fact that he wants to investigate something is a good indication that there are unanswered questions regarding 9/11. Something all "debunkers" will deny with their last shillish breath.
"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton
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i guess the "debunkers" would say that "he is desperately trying to get support from the in-fashion conspiracy nuts"
if it were anyone but Kucinich...
Chemtrail Kucinich? They'll have a field day, Jon. em7 is right, they'll just say he represents the fringe left bla bla bla. We know no matter what he says about 9/11 he'll be insulted, so why not go ahead and make it something good?
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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
people are afraid of small plane accidents
Amy and others are literally afraid for their lives.
Its public knowledge that the defense department uses death of its targets as a means of resolving problems.
Also, you need to forgive your friends for not seeing the truth as quickly as you did. Tell them that feeling the pain is the first step to seeing the truth.
http://www.truthcult.com
i don't buy it
if you're afraid for your life the smartest thing to do is go all out and make sure everyone knows where you stand. then killing you just exposes the perps. I'm out as a truther in my local daily life and of course I worry about soemthing happening to me. but I'm comforted to know that if something does happen to me, plenty of people will know why, and no one who knew me will be on the fence anymore. beats dying of cancer!
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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
That's an important point.
That's an important point.
What happens if "they" say they''ll kill your children?"
Go on the radio.
Is that too simplistic?
Yes and no. Embarassing yes. Radio no. Speak out the threat is gone...It's in the past tense.
"Speak the truth and shame the devil."
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I like Kucinich!
I really do and I'm glad he's taking some steps to get at the truth. But he may not win the nomination. Who else will there be then? I think these issues should also be taken up with other candidates like Edwards and Obama! We should approach them also and present our case to them and let them consider it!
Just a thought! Thanks!
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my letter to Kucinich.....
i kept my cynicism and anger in check this time,haha:
Thank you for calling for a new investigation. Cynthia McKinney tried to ask Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Myers to their faces who was behind the wargames on 9/11. They said they would get back to her and they have yet to do so. This is only one tiny piece of the 9/11 puzzle that has yet to be solved. Please Mr. Kucinich, before its too late, before we are at war with Iran, try and highlight the absurdity of the official story of 9/11 and highlight how compromised the 9/11 Commission was. Start with Philip Zelikow. Cynthia McKinney tried only to be smeared by the media and even her own party. Im sure you remember this. Please be brave like she was.
his website is crawling with us......
http://kucinich.us/node/3696#comment
narrow portion?
What a copout. The 911 commission report already looked at a "narrow portion". And I have mixed feelings about Amy Goodman. I love her book Static, but don't have respect for left gatekeepers.
"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush
There is no doubt...
That 9/11 was never truly investigated. Look at the early testimony. In the beginning NO ONE was under oath. Not until the family members made a stink did they start putting people under oath. All of that testimony is invalid as far as I'm concerned. The purpose of putting people under oath is so that when they commit perjury (Condoleezza Rice & others...), they can be held accountable. Unfortunately, the 9/11 Commission didn't take it upon themselves to hold anyone accountable. Neither have the proper authorities. That has a lot to do with why we're here. :)
"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton
Jon, do you know...
...whether the members of the 9/11 Commission swore an oath of any kind? I believe that they were required to do so per 5 U.S.C. §3331. Where would that oath be filed then?
Most, if not all, government "officials", elected and appointed, must swear an oath BEFORE assuming their office. And that oath is required to be on file as a matter of public record.
Here's an example of why that is important:
If a judge is required to file an oath of office as a requirement of taking that office and fails to do so, then how could any decision that judge renders be considered valid?
Those decisions cannot be considered valid because the judge failed to fulfill the requirements of the office. Therefore, that office is considered vacant, as it should be, and all decisions rendered during said vacancy are void.
If a judge fails to swear an oath to uphold the Constitution, then what would obligate him/her to do so in the absence of an oath.
Look up Richard Cornforth's work in this area.
The Oath of Office and the Constitution (for federal servants)
http://www.opm.gov/constitution_initiative/oath.asp
Oath
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
5 U.S.C. §3331
To my knowledge, NO federal servant testifying before the 9/11 Commission received a 'release' from this oath or any other oath(s) that they may have taken. I do not believe that such release exists. Therefore, ALL federal servants testifying before the 9/11 Commission were doing so under an oath of office, at the very least.
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The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001
I understand...
The importance, but unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your question. Try emailing Kyle. He might know.
"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton