Trento's Column: Families Of Air Disaster Victims Decry Cover-Ups

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I love Ray McGovern. To see the smile on his face, holding a copy of the 9/11 Report with holes in it, is priceless. - Jon

Source: storiesthatmatter.org

Written by Joe Trento
Wednesday, 28 March 2007

It has been gratifying to see the focus on terrorism and airline security since the publication of Unsafe At Any Altitude last October. Congress, which created the bipartisan disaster that is TSA, is finally asking a few hard questions about how TSA is so inferior to the tens of thousands of private screeners who were sacked after 9/11 in exchange for the nearly 50,000 feds we now have.

In tests the old private screeners detected more threats by a huge factor compared to TSA's screeners. More disturbing are the incidences of gun running on planes and theft among the federal TSA employees.

The creation of this mess can be laid at the feet of Senator John McCain and the Democrats who seem to always believe more federal employees is always better. Well they got them and this year the plan in Congress is to allow this unsuccessful force to unionize. We have all seem to have forgotten why we were trying to fix airline security.

Last month, my co-author, Susan Trento and I attended a conference where the membership will never forget the threat to aviation security. In one of the most moving experiences I have ever had I met some the survivors of those who died in the 9/11 terrorist's attacks as well as other air related tragedies at the The National Air Disaster Foundation and Alliance annual meeting.


From left, Joe Trento, Susan Trento, Coleen Rowley, and Ray McGovern, chair a terrorism discussion panel at The National Air Disaster Foundation and Alliance annual meeting.

This organization is made up of folks who have lost family and friends in airline disasters. Many of the people who attended the conference were family members of loved ones still searching for answers. They wanted to know what the government was still covering up about its role in the world that may have made their family members and friends the targets of terrorists.

We entered the room as a session was underway with Charlotte Bryan, the General Manager for Airports at the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). It was clear that Ms. Bryan had not really studied her audience. She spoke of TSA as it was a perfectly running machine. She ignored an audience member who prefaced her question by referring to TSA as "thousands standing around." It was surreal. Audience members included a group from a recent Kentucky crash where it was discovered that the government had repeatedly lied about the circumstance of the crash and the National Transportation Safety Board was going to close out the investigation with one year of the crash.

Watching Ms. Bryant speak was like watching high ranking members of this administration talk about Iraq: everything is great, everything is improving. During a lunch break I learned just how much the people in the room had come to hate reassuring bureaucrats.

Because of our book deals with terrorism the NADFA invited Susan Trento and I to appear on a panel on terrorism with FBI heroine Coleen Rowley and former CIA Officer Ray McGovern.

Ray McGovern held up a copy of the 9.11 Commission Report with large holes in it. I had never met Ray. He was President's George H. W. Bush's CIA briefing officer. It was sad to me that the report these families had relied on to get to the truth was little more then a political compromise monitored closely by a staff director who was formerly under the supervision of Ms. Rice.

Coleen Rowley was a wonderful illustration of what happens when a great public servant dares to speak out. She was the lone 9/11 highlight at the FBI. She was the reason people can still have faith in government: There are people like her that this administration has done its best to scare and silence. Rowley is the perfect example of grace under pressure.

We pointed out that as of last Fall the head of TSA or his deputy for counterintelligence had never even seen the "No-Fly list." Kip Hawley, who runs TSA, reassured the new Congress that 20,000 names would be chopped from the "No-Fly List" by last month. Well he didn't do it. The list is very little different then the one we shared with 60 Minutes last October.

One man who lost his daughter on 9/11 wanted some answers as to how and why this happened this happened. No of us on the panel had a good answer, just examples. Ours answer to him was that the our government covered-up our cooperation with Saudi GID and their mistaken recruitment of two of the hijackers who would end up flying a plane into the Pentagon. The truth was Al Qaeda had planted their moles in Saudi GID and the CIA relied on the Saudi's for what it knew about Al Qaeda. It should be pointed out that by 1997 the Clinton Administration had called Saudi GID a hostile intelligence service. That changed when George Bush took office and ordered the DIA to end MONARCH PASSAGE , the secret DIA program to monitor the Saudi Royal Family.


Former FBI agent Coleen Rowley, left, and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, right, are critics of 9/11 Comission Report.

Why George Bush felt it was necessary to protect the Saudi's is the real question. Now there are strong hints that the US was warned about these two terrorists and that is why the CIA notified INS that these Saudi agents were here illegally. Sadly, INS never found them nor did the CIA share a picture it had of the men until after the attacks.

Our panel was somber. I felt like we could not help these people who had lost so much understand how our government failed them. Monica Gabrielle, who lost her husband on 9/11, presented Susan and I with an award. It was given in memory of an Atlantic Airways flight for those who had done worthwhile work in passenger safety and security. We were both surprised and humbled. Monica Gabrielle lost her husband Richard, just two years from their 30 th wedding anniversary.

These folks want no other survivors of air terrorism to join their ranks.

The awards and honors should go to those family members who made George Bush and Congress appoint the 9.11 Commission. To these families that was a start, but just a start. What was revealed in Unsafe At Any Altitude came from a lot of courageous people at airlines, airports and yes, in our government.

What I did not see that day at the conference were very many reporters. The media has largely left the biggest story of the last twenty years slip away. It's too bad they return only when more lives are lost and more blood is shed.

Monarch Passage...

(February-March 2001): New Administration Shuts Down Surveillance of Saudi Arabians
The Defense Intelligence Agency began a project to monitor Saudi Arabian targets in the 1990s. The project, called Monarch Passage, was originally intended to track Saudi assistance to Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program, but is expanded to become a comprehensive communications spying program against Saudi businessmen and members of the Royal Family. However, it is shut down in the early days of the Bush administration. [Stories that Matter, 1/7/2006]


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

i'm confused--what hijackers are they talking about?

the ones who are still alive? And is someone really arguing that the Israeli security company should be put back in charge of security at Logan and Dulles?

If these alleged victims' families took the hush money, then they should just hush. So why no names of those alleged victims' families anyway?

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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Almihdhar?

Are you saying that Monica Gabrielle is an "alleged victim"? I'm trying to understand. Are you saying that you have absolute proof there were no hijackers on those aircraft that day?


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

I'm sorry, did she die?

or is she in fact an alleged victim's family member? if her husband is supposed to have died on one of the planes on 9/11, she'll have to prove it to get my sympathy, and frankly, I doubt she'd be able to. if he was in one of the towers, big difference. If you hadn't noticed, I'm fairly immune to emotional blackmail. I'm going to be like the principal from Ferris Bueller from now on. Wanna skip school because your grandma died? Show me the body. I'm a truthseeker Jon, not a therapist or anyone's best buddy. Nor am I trying to win a popularity contest, or impress anyone with how well-connected I am to "9/11 celebrities".

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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As a matter of fact...

I just sent this story to Ray and Mrs. Gabrielle...

Subject: A Story About The Two Of You...

With a priceless picture of Ray.

Jon

And Ray responded by saying...

thanks Monica and you, Jon

And Mrs. Gabrielle responded by saying...

It is priceless, isn't it???? Thanks for forwarding, Jon!
M

I consider myself to be a "truthseeker". As a matter of fact, I think I'm a reasonably good one at that. However, I could not even contemplate asking someone like Monica Gabrielle to prove to me her husband died just to get my sympathy.

She got my sympathy on the day of 9/11 as far as I'm concerned, and she will always have it.

If being a true "truthseeker" requires me to abandon my principles, then I want no part of it.

Incidentally, in some circles, "connections" are a good thing.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

I'm saying...

that until I see absolute proof that there WERE hijackers on those planes (the two that actually existed) I will just have to assume that since there is clearly no shortage of lying bastards in the world, who would kill their own grandmothers for a good victims compensation check, we cannot trust anyone to be telling the truth, ESPECIALLY if they took hush money. Who the hell would trade a chance to sue for disclosure of the circumstances of a loved one's death for any sum of money? Who? Sorry but you take the hush money that's all you get. No sympathy, just suspicion. That's just the way it is.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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You're clearly trying to

You're clearly trying to make people who are skeptical of the official story look bad.

and you

are clearly trying desperately to preserve the bogus fantasy of evil arab muslim terrorists, at the same time as you are trying to cover up Israel's and American Zionists' (Silverstein) involvement in 9/11. clearly. and you're not the only one here whose job that is. sure you might be fooling one or two people, but the truth is too obvious at this point.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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Again...

Do you have absolute proof that hijackers were not aboard any of those planes? Do you have absolute proof that Larry Silverstein, through his connections to Zionists in Israel, enabled individuals to go into the towers, and building 7, and plant explosives so they could come down in a spectacular fashion on 9/11?

If not, then why do you state it as fact?

Also, isn't that a priceless picture of Ray McGovern?


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

i just point out the most likely truth given the facts

Do you understand that absence of proof that something is not true is not proof of it being true?

I think there is plenty of circumstancial evidence casting mega-suspicion on Larry Silverstein. I don't think that there is a similar amount of evidence that anyone died aboard hijacked planes on 9/11. The so called evidence that exists are the claims of victim's family members (whose testimony is suspect because they were effectively well paid for it), seemingly impossible cell phone calls, and the assurance of proven pathological liars that that's what happened.

On the other hand, despite all the suspicion surrounding Silverstein he has never been called to testify under oath about anything. Jon, if my apartment building collapsed and I tried to collect my insurance on it and no one could explain how it happened despite it being apparent that it was blown up with explosives, on whom would suspicion naturally fall? Who would be the subject of an investigation? How would people think of anyone who said--leave the poor man alone--you have no PROOF that he did it! Naturally the response to them would be--the cause of the destruction of his property must be investigated and if it is determined that the buiilding was deliberately demolished the owner will be investigated, indicted, and tried. Why the double standard in the case of Silverstein?

Frankly I think the victims' families, legitimate or not (some are some aren't) are irrelevant to a finding of criminal complicity. Focusing on them and using their grief to manipulate the course that an investigation into 9/11 should take may seem like a good sell, but unfortunately it is as I said irrelevant to what the evidence shows. Sentimentality is perfectly fine and can produce the warm fuzzies but it doesn't guarantee justice.

Trying to paint me as a heartless bastard for pointing that out is a cheap tactic.

And sure, Ray holding the holey book is a lovely image, but image ain't everything--and too often these days people are too quick to skip the words and only look at the pictures. I think it's great you want to support victims and their families, but if you cross the line and let emotions cloud judgement, "heartless bastards" like me are going to react (as well you know!)

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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Who

Is "using their grief to manipulate" anything? I support the family members. All of them. Regardless of whether or not they're on my side. If I'm "using" anything, it is their message, which, for the most part, is the same as mine. Only when they say it, it's 1000x more powerful.

"I don't think that there is a similar amount of evidence that anyone died aboard hijacked planes on 9/11."

What about the bone fragments found from passengers on board those planes? Fake? Planted?

Personally, I'm tired of the "all evidence that supports the official account is fake" argument. I'm content to just point out the discrepencies in the 9/11 Commission, their report, and the people it benefitted.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

fair questions

As for the bone fragments, I do think it was a little odd that they were suddenly discovered years after the fact and lo and behold they happened to find a fragment of Betty Ong. I would argue that the fragments found were more likely from people who were in the towers. Having a lab announce that they tested DNA and it matched Betty Ong's is unfortunately not 100% convincing because it just takes one liar to make that happen.

I freely admit I could be wrong but that won't stop me from viocing my opinion that we should treat every aspect of teh OCT as suspect, no matter how such an attitude can be twisted around to make us look uncaring.

Believe it or not I'm glad that for whatever reason you are a strong advocate for the victims, and regardless of how we feel about each other or our opinions I've benefitted from having your perspective advocated for strongly. And you'll notice that when I agree with you I say so and act on it. When you posted the talks by victims of dust inhalation I appreciated it and mirrored them on my site. Not just that I've played those speeches to great effect in public while doing outreach, and like it or not I have you to thank. Thank you Jon.

I will also freely admit that I am not always good at hiding my irritation over some of our disagreements and that you have been making an effort to keep our disagreements civil, which I appreciate. I'll continue to try harder myself, and I apologize for my first comment to this post being a bit sarcastic.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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Let's work together

I can't stand it when you guys are mean to each other.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Maybe this has already been discussed, but....

...has anyone noticed any differences between the families of the victims, that is, between the families of the victims on the airplanes and the families of victims in the buildings?

Are both equally asking for a new investigation, in the same proportion? Has anyone noticed any significant difference in tone? Is that possible to quantify, somehow?

it's almost never discussed

and I think there is a significant difference, but we should find a definitive answer because it does matter...

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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LIHOP - no insiders, just the trouble with mediocrity

The article states this -

"The truth was Al Qaeda had planted their moles in Saudi GID and the CIA relied on the Saudi's for what it knew about Al Qaeda. It should be pointed out that by 1997 the Clinton Administration had called Saudi GID a hostile intelligence service. That changed when George Bush took office and ordered the DIA to end MONARCH PASSAGE, the secret DIA program to monitor the Saudi Royal Family. Why George Bush felt it was necessary to protect the Saudi's is the real question. Now there are strong hints that the US was warned about these two terrorists and that is why the CIA notified INS that these Saudi agents were here illegally. Sadly, INS never found them nor did the CIA share a picture it had of the men until after the attacks."

As far as the writer is concerned, AQ was in control and likely succeeded because Bush made it easier. There is no suggestion he thinks insiders orchestrated this. They only let AQ do what they planned to do all along. In other words, LIHOP.

A friend of mine has said this of Colleen Rowley -

"If you read Rowley's opinion -- the opinion of a 20-year career FBI officer moved by patriotism who wants to improve her organization -- it is not to throw the moles in prison. She does not say or imply that there are moles, and she is better placed and better informed about the internal workings of the FBI than the conspiracy theorists. Rowley says that bureaucratic inertia at FBI HQ, fear of making mistakes, careerism without intrinsic desire, insufficient training and experience at HQ secondary to promotion based on blind obedience were the institutional factors that produced the Moussaoui errors. Rowley offers as a partial solution greater freedom of command and decision for the local level -- not purging the moles at HQ and their controllers who "supprssed" Moussaoui's computer until the deed was done."

Some of the relevant opinions are here -

5) During the early aftermath of September 11th, when I happened to be recounting the pre-September 11th events concerning the Moussaoui investigation to other FBI personnel in other divisions or in FBIHQ, almost everyone's first question was "Why?--Why would an FBI agent(s) deliberately sabotage a case? (I know I shouldn't be flippant about this, but jokes were actually made that the key FBIHQ personnel had to be spies or moles, like Robert Hansen, who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis' effort.)
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html

It is only a joke to her that personnel could be spies or moles.

one more -

In a large hierarchal bureaucracy such as the FBI, with the requirement for numerous superiors approvals/oversight, the premium on career-enhancement, and interjecting a chilling factor brought on by recent extreme public and congressional criticism/oversight, and I think you will see at least the makings of the most likely explanation. Another factor not to be underestimated probably explains the SSA and other FBIHQ personnel's reluctance to act. And so far, I have heard no FBI official even allude to this problem-- which is that FBI Headquarters is staffed with a number of short term careerists* who, like the SSA in question, must only serve an 18 month-just-time-to-get-your-ticket-punched minimum. It's no wonder why very little expertise can be acquired by a Headquarters unit! (And no wonder why FBIHQ is mired in mediocrity! -- that maybe a little strong, but it would definitely be fair to say that there is unevenness in competency among Headquarters personnel.)
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html

For Ms. Rowley, the most likely explanation is to be found in bureaucracy, not insider involvement.

I think my friend had a point when he said that Rowley's opinion is the opinion of a 20-year career FBI officer moved by patriotism who wants to improve her organization. She has no agenda to seek out insiders, because to her that is a joke. Her agenda appears to be to expose the FBI careerists who enforce mediocrity and stop the chilling level of oversight. If those were out of the way they could have stopped the AQ terrorists from completing their amazing plans and feats of magic.

Yea...

I certainly don't agree with everything Coleen Rawley has to say. I learned that at the 9/11 People's Commission in Washington D.C. on 9/11/2004. She seems to cling to the idea that no one in Washington D.C. is criminal, and instead, are just bureaucratic, incompetent buffoons.

I'm smart enough to know that the people that work in Washington D.C. are, in fact, people.

Capable of greed, jealousy, etc... the motivating factors for murder.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Trento is really good

Unsafe at any Altitude is a really good book, with a couple of exceptions. The highlights include:
(a) The bits about Almihdhar and Alhazmi. I doubt he has the full story, but he's definitely barking up the right tree;
(b) An eyewitness who says he saw Marwan Alshehhi at 8:00 p.m. at Dulles on 9/10;
(c) Libyan terror in the 1980s - according to Trento it was "orchestrated by the CIA".

Prelude to Terror is also worth your while.

I don't...

Know who he is. I just really liked the picture of Ray.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton