Inside Edition and Popular Mechanics Attacks Rosie

Rosie O'Donnell has triggered a firestorm after spreading yet another theory about 9/11.

Rosie is claiming that World Trade Center 7 was deliberately demolished.

On Thursday's "The View," Rosie said, "It defies physics for the WTC 7, which collapsed in on itself -it's impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved."

Rosie issued a challenge to "Look at the films," and "get a demolition expert."

What Rosie and other conspiracy theorists don't say is that building 7, since rebuilt, suffered a 10-story gash from huge columns which fell from the twin towers. It was also weakened byfires that burned for 10 hours.

James Meigs, editor in chief of "Popular Mechanics," led a team of experts who wrote a book debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Meigs said as much as 25% of the building was scooped out by the falling debris. He added, "There were intense fires that burned inside the building that weakend the steel frame. Rosie O'Donnell said this was the first time in history fire melted steel, but fire doesn't have to melt steel to weaken it enough to fail."

INSIDE EDTION cameras caught the tragic last moments as the 47-story building came down on 9/11, about nine hours after the planes struck the twin towers.

The building is seen falling in on itself, and it seems to follow the classic pattern of a controlled demolition.

But Meigs says that it's no conspiracy. "You don't need to go into fanciful explanations of bombs and mysterious things. That building fell because of the attacks if 9/11."

Among the tenants of building seven were several federal agencies including the CIA. That has helped fuel paranoid conspiracy theories.

What do you think of Rosie's remarks about 9/11? Click here to send us your comments on video. You may be featured on a future broadcast of INSIDE EDITION.

melted steel

so there were no molten metal in the rubble of building seven? thats some great lying.

They call it "Rosies conspiracy" as if she was the first person to notice building 7.

This is severe damage control. And its also more great exposure!

compare these two

compare these two pictures


Aman Zafar's pic:

a comaprison:

that picture is from this guy's website...

here are his pics from 9/11.

i contacted him, and he said that the negatives were destroyed, so that's the best scan we have of the pic.

From his website:

Five years since the attacks. A lot of people have visited this site and I have received a lot of E-mails from everyone thanking me for sharing the photographs. I have just got a new scanner so I decided to scan the picture at a higher resolution from the 5x7 prints that I had. The pictures below are thumbnails.

The pictures were taken from my apartment in Jersey. I did not see the two planes hit, but started to take pictures about 3-4 mins after the second one hit.

If you have any comments, please feel free to E-mail me on

Please also note all these pictures are taken on 35mm film and are copyright of Aman Zafar (i.e. ME!!!!).


The reply should be as follows

........So what does they offical report say about WTC7?
Hummmmm? Almost 6 years ,and no report
Why if it is so F**KING simple?
Let me also point out that even if there was this damage to the corner there's NO way that it would collapse straight down in the amount of time it did!
P.S.... The squibs going from bottom to top... Was that reversed compression? Must be because the squibs in the towers going from top to bottom were ...according to you caused from compression.

The "scoop" is a faked image

Somewhere here on 911blogger (a search feature would be nice) are comparative images of that corner of Building 7 revealing that the NIST "scoop" image is faked.

I hope someone can find it..
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush


And here (found it) is the comparison

So while there was some damage, the "scoop" is bullshit, a lie, a fake, a fabrication, by NIST, and then taken up by Miegs and Popular Mechanics. Case closed on that one. No "scoop". Just fire.

It should also be noted that the building went down in 6.5 seconds, where absolute free fall from the height of building 7, in a VACUUM (without air resistence even) is 6 seconds. As well, it went down uniformly, which would require all structural support beams to fail simultaneously, across the entire structure, and all at the same level.


“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth” ~ George W. Bush

THAT NIST "photo"...

...and the phony NYPD banner makes me wretch.

The NYPD photographers have hirez digital cameras. NEVER , EVER, EVER has the original image with the EXIF data embedded within been and are still available. This one will NEVER be available and show a scoop because it doesn't exist.

Hirez jpgs with the EXIF data probably taken from the same NYPD helicopter are still out there. 911veritas has many.

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001




Why, that's the point of it.


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A bit more on Aman Zafar's Picture

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Personally I trust his pictures more than the NIST one, that clearly has had color alteration and lord knows what other "damage" editing.

I was in contact with Aman (the photographer) and he states to the best of his knowledge the picture was taken around 2pm.

The top two fire damaged floors are 30 and 29 (caused before 11:37am). Middle fire damage with smoke coming out is floor 22 part of reinforced section (floors 22 and 23).

The lowest floor visible on the south-west corner is floor 12, immediately above the "Winter Garden".

Bit more here on west edge damage :

SEC fires on Floor 12 :

More interesting pictures, including two columns from the west edge of WTC7 that leant against the Verizon building, the tops seem burnt (could be when they burn holes to mount the charges), plus they are all broken at the same height.

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The region around the

The region around the alleged damage is much brighter than the rest of the image. Is this a sign of editing? Perhpas someone with photo editing experience could clear thisup.

I've watched perhaps hundreds of hours of footage but found no video that shows antyhing below the 19th floor but smoke and dust.

I think the fact that no such video exists is striking. If this is indeed a retouched photo, which it looks like to me, whoever did this knew that no video existed of anything below the 19th floor.

Brightness reduced, contrast hightened:

Please watch my movie: WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11

Just found this

Just found this discussion:

That last image is a flipped version of this pic:

Does anybody know if there's better quality version of that last pic? It's the World Financial Center.

Would the blueish image of the WFC damage pasted over the purple WTC7 would explain the washed out part of the WTC7 pic?

Please watch my movie: WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11

Here's a Russian page about

Here's a Russian page about the corner damage.

Comparing images south-western corner of WTC7

Discharged quantitative comparison of the two colour photographs of fragments west angle tower WTC7 made after a fire in the tower was recorded reporters (16:10), and before the tower collapsed (17:20).The first photograph was taken by an individual and, until recently, been published, the second with a police helicopter and published in the NIST report as evidence that the south-west corner WTC7 was severely damaged from debris strikes towers WTC1 with its collapse.



The channel B (blue) in zones 5 .. 10 second snapshot is not in line with the trend these values in the first. The most logical explanation is artificially changing brightness blue in these zones to improve the "reliability" of the image as a documentary evidence that the picture in the scene damage the south-western corner of WTC7 occurred at the time of caving WTC1 and was due to the impact of large debris and destructive "jet" small debris, traces of which was (primarily) deeply vjevshayasa dust-so clearly in the official photograph.


Official snapshot (with a very high probability) forged.

2. Calculated average values of R, G, B pixels for each of the designated sites.

It's in Russian but a translated page (google translator) can be found here:

Please watch my movie: WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11


I'm joining this discussion late so forgive me if someone pointed this out already, but the fifth row of windows from the bottom are clearly evidence of a photoshop job gone bad. It's the same window repeated three times with slight distortions.

Hey Badmachine

.......need to send this along with these comment to Rosie.

I've never seen those pics

I've never seen those pics side by side before. I'm so freaking pissed. This cover up makes me so angry sometimes I can't even deal with it.

Thanks for the heads up on those images

I downloaded this page with all its images:
In case someone tries to scrub them.

Would be good to have a set with names of the buildings. Took me a while to verify which building was number 7.

It does look like the NIST image is photoshopped.


Damn right it's photoshopped!

I've even seen images where people emulated that kind of damage using photoshop with impeccable success.

Some damage, but no huge scoop.

Also, building 7 is like far far away from the north tower, like almost 400 feet away I think. Not far enough obviously to escape being hit by the EJECTING steel beams, but too far to have been pummeled by falling debris.

See these images
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

Are you trying to debunk

Are you trying to debunk Meigs' "Ice Cream Scoop of God Theory?" Shame on you! You must be one of those godless secular progressives (SPs) we've heard so much about. Have you no respect, sir?

Even with the photo-shopped changes, how does Meigs claim that 25% of the building was scooped out? Methinks they'll have to do some more work on those photos.

By the by, as of 7:00 A.M. "9/11 Mysteries" is on the front page of Google Video. Thanks be to Rosie!

Well, I've already encoutered the NIST "Foot of God" hypothesis

So why not Miegs "ice scream scoop of God"?

What I find TRULY remarkable, is Meigs' TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF BUILDING Scoop claim..

What, does he think that by merely SAYING these things makes them true?

The word of Meigs.

"Let there be scoop" and there WAS scoop. Behold, the scoop!

What scoop? That is what we, and all of heaven above are asking now..

For HIS sake, I hope he's NOT a mason. It's not in "congruent alignment" with the truth, and the reality.

"There is nothing now hidden which will not be made known, and brought to light."
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

Re: (a search feature would be nice)


It's at the top of the page:

If it was a snake...

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001


If it was an apple...
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

An admission of guilt?

Wow, if proven true, this is evidence of a cover-up.
This could be really big folks!

The existence of a faked photo about WTC7 is really an admission of guilt. If one is taking the time to fake a photo, then they KNOW that a real photo (or video), supporting their assertions, does not exist.

The photo editors can be shown to have "Mens Rea" or "Guilty Mind". Some call it "Malice aforethought".


How did CNN and BBC have foreknowledge of the WTC7 collapse, yet five years later, the government cannot explain it?

Another parallel to JFK...

...with the allegedly faked Oswald photo incriminating him by his "holding" the rifle and newspaper.

"History doesn't repeat itself, but sometimes it rhymes"

These guys apparently have only so many tricks in their bag.

Inside Job Edition?

  • WTC7 collapse shown 5 (!) times in 2:29 minutes
  • saying it looked like a CD, switching to Meigs who responds "that building fell...because of the attacks of 9/11"
  • mentioning "among the tenants of building 7 were several federal agencies, including the CIA..."
  • closing with Rosie saying "if you wanna know what's happening in the world, go outside of the US media"

There was even more, but I think that's a pretty clear picture.

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Yeah it was good for us, and for our movement, and Rosie

Nice to actually SEE Building 7 enter into the debate, and you'll note in my post above how they've been caught LYING about "the scoop".

The story of 9/11 is a real scoop however, and they'll note I'm sure that when they cover it, their ratings go way up at the mere mention of it.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
-- Mahatma Gandhi

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
-- Arthur Schopenhauer

Thank you Inside Edition!
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

I agree, someone at Inside

I agree, someone at Inside Edition is on our side!

Either that or

ANY sort of attempted rebuttal falls flat on its face relative to the truth and the reality. Maybe that's more like it. All there is is Miegs and Pop Mech, and a NIST report that has STILL to this day, not been published on Building 7, where all they've produced for the Twin Towers is nothing but a "collapse initiation" hypothesis ONLY, never dealing with the actual "collapse" itself, nor even making any MENTION in the final report of the duration of the fall time.

Remember folks, the ENTIRETY of the OCT is encapsulated in only two reports, the NIST and the 9/11 Commission Report, and an article and a littel book by Popular Mechanics, that is all the people have been given for a official historical record on the 9/11 event, which will one day ultimately become known as "The Crime of the Century".
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

They kept a lid on 7 for years...

now they showed it 5 times in a row, saying it looked like a controlled demolition, and noting it housed several federal agencies. They then let Rosie have the last word, essentially saying go look outside of the US mainstream for more information...

Coincidence or intent?

interns < internets

and it is now confirmed that

and it is now confirmed that the backstory of the 9/11 commission report came from evidence gleaned under torture, and then passed to the 9/11 commission. People laugh at the KSM confessions, etc., but don't realize that that information from those 'high value' tortured individuals was the basis by which the 9/11 commission gave their version. People worldwide are already laughing at the government's official story and don't even know it. The 9/11 Commission Report has no credibility at all.

News editor at The Watchman Report,, delivering 9/11 truth to the Christian community

you missed one

the comic book version of the 9/11 commission report fleshes out the conspiracy in visual terms (wild eyed arabs wielding knives) easily grasped by those who think it's the cliff notes version of the original and best.

Also, when you mention Pop Mech's book, be sure to always point out this page:

Their soon to be famous crock pot theory of molten steel at the WTC. Right up there with Bo Dietl's "Heaviness theory".

Honestly, we could NOT write fiction this absurd--it would be laughed away as unrealistic...


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


As Mark Twain said:

"Reality is stranger than fiction because fiction has to be believable.", Mark Twain

As Mark Twain said:

"Reality is stranger than fiction because fiction has to be believable.", Mark Twain

As Mark Twain said:

"Reality is stranger than fiction because fiction has to be believable.", Mark Twain

Crime of the Century

Supertramp. Does anyone else remember listening to that album in the 70's, wondering what the crime of the century would turn out to be?

Crime of the Twentieth-

Yes, I was in Nice, France when the tunnels below the Natl. Bank of France were being exploited by a band of 10 rogues. It was the greatest weekend of my life. We were hanging-out directly above these guys, trying to figure out how to score French women, while the A-Team was emptying out all of the private lockboxes of the richest people in southern France. $14M- low end estimate. Later, they claimed all were caught but two, one had died... (Perhaps I shouldn't really be bragging! :)

Oh dear, someone's getting worried...and it's not us.

Just because they say we're paranoid, doesn't mean we're not going to get them.

Yo! Speaker Pelosi, better pass a supplemental to enlarge LEAVENWORTH.

The game is ON, brothers and sisters, bring it with grace, dignity and style

I love you all.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

It's quite incredible

the dam is breaking right before our eyes. somebody pinch me!

but the game is not over yet, and we should take care that the big fish don't get washed away, lest we only catch some herrings.

PS: "Just because they say we're paranoid, doesn't mean we're not going to get them." hehe!

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I beliieve the way these things have gone in the past is that at the point of critical mass, everyone basically comes to the same realization all at once while the delusional dictaters still plug away at any last false hope. Remember when Hitler was holed up in his bunker broadcasting to the German ppl. that they were about to win the war while the Russians were only a few miles outside Berlin.

The dam is breaking right before our eyes

Hmmm, seems these Truthers are getting a little close for comfort. Maybe we need a little diversion. How does the weather forecast look for Iran next Friday? It looks like plenty of smoke and mirrors of another Iraq.


"Just because they say we're paranoid, doesn't mean we're not going to get them."

I nominate that as the unofficial 9/11 Truth motto. :-)

Want to figure out 9/11? Ponder the 9/11 "Mineta Stone"

second that.

It's a great line...

"Just because they say we're

"Just because they say we're paranoid, doesn't mean we're not going to get them." - love it :)

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Wait, so the side of

Wait, so the side of building 7 that is taken out is not real? Am I hearing that right? It's fake?

most likely, yes

the reference picture was taken after WTC1 had collapsed, so there is no reasonable explanation what should have caused the damage on NIST's pic later on. After all, they faked an entire "scientific investigation", so why not fake a photo?

interns < internets

This is just another thing

This is just another thing the critics will deny even though the photo above clearly shows no gapping hole in the side.

It doesn't matter, we still

It doesn't matter, we still have smoking gun proof that it was a CD! The gapping hole is just a straw man argument they like to use.

I love all the hit pieces

I love all the hit pieces because they give us exposure and force the propagandists to set their side in stone (as if we didn't know already but come time for trials these videos will help). That said, I actually hope that the major theater companies refuse to put book Loose Change. I hope that none of the propaganda outlets switch over to our side. These companies have been feeding us bovis stercum for 100 years. If one switches over to our side without getting rid of their moles (including board) then the power to sway the movement will be largely taken from our hands. As long as they stay our enemy people will come to us for the truth. The longer they lie, the more people will come to our side and the less ability they are going to have to control the situation when it gets out of control.

Rosie talking about this is spectacular. Breaking in here and there is ideal but when one "comes to our side" I'm going to be very skeptical unless they clean house and hire a team of reputable truthers (no Fetzers). In fact, when one comes to our side, that's when I'm going into hyper-drive burning DVDs, with labels with links to honest sites that tell the full story, do do my part to minimize their ability to muddy the waters.

We have the power of the new medium, a power Gutenberg wishes he had. We have to build this, while building our own skills and knowledge, so that when the real battle starts we have somewhere to work from.

Once all the rats jump ship

all we have to do is point at their well documented past. And if the average attention span is 10 seconds, then we'll just point at it every 10 seconds. This won't go down the memory hole in our lifetimes. They can't just switch sides and pretend they turned all honest.

It's way too late, and they're all neck-deep in it. sure, they can crawl out, but they'll reek of it forever.

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I wish they took comments...

...then I'd just tell the fucking morons to do the research and gooble it themselves.

But, they have had their own footage for 6+ years for Christ's sake. It's obvious that they're gonna cherry pick what they want to try and make Rosie look foolish for purposes of sensationalism and disinformation anyway. They already did it with this piece. All they have to do is responsibly contrast Meig's bullshit quotes with their own goddamn video.

But, no. It's all just Rosie's PARANOID conspiracy theories.

And, just look at their own goddamn video. Has anyone else noticed that they edited and made a deliberate cut in the video just before the penthouse drop using zoom zooms and unrelated shots to hide it. They didn't just do this once. They didn't just do it twice. They fucking did it three fucking times!

Rosie says "do the research" and inexcusible excuse for a noose program wants users to upload videos. Other than brains and guts, they have all that they need.

I hope that their show dies a slow and agonizing death. Inside Edition just moved way up on my list of traitors.

I'm not a death penalty proponent however, I am seriously considering rethinking my position. Especially for those in the noose business.

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

the penthouse drop is very important

it's very visible in this Danny Jowenko vid... 


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force

Dear Real truther

.......and let's not forget the squibs going from bottom to top. What i like to call reversed compression.
Since they claim that the massive squibs in the twins going from top to bottom were due to compression.

true true true

I remember from the NIST or FEMA report I forget which--the fall of the penthouse first with the delay that preceded the rest collapsing was the key to trying to identify the collapse sequence. Once you have to account for such a precise series of events it becomes exceedingly difficult to make shit up....


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


re: Death Penalty

Anyone remember a special episode of the West Wing made right after 9/11? One of the characters suggested instead of execution, the perpetrators should be kept alive and have to take a punch from a volunteer from the general public every day.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

fire power

And they have Meigs ridiculing Rosie's comments on fire and steel, note the great topic shift he performs:

Quote from Meigs:

"There were intense fires that burned inside the building weakening the steel frame. Rosie Odonell said this is the first time in history that fire melted steel. Fire doesn't have to melt the steel to weaken it enough to make the building fail."

Slick how he entirely avoids the issue of, in that case, if steel is that weak, why don't ALL steel frame buildings that catch fire, collapse? Such as the Windsor in Madrid and many others. Of course the interviewer doesn't think to ask that obvious follow up. If anybody wants to say "Well that's because the Windsor and the others did not have scooped out sections" then see the photo discussion above in this thread. Even apart from that fakery, if steel is really that weak then the far more intense Windsor fire (complete engulfment) for more a far longer period (24 hours) should have brought the entire structure to the ground.

We are getting the scam we deserve.

Video Posted On Youtube By Supporter

The video from Youtube that is at the heading of this post was posted by someone with the user name suzetteanne.

The following is her comment below the video. It is the very first comment to be seen:

suzetteanne (1 day ago)

Inside Edition on 30 March 2007 ridicules the evidence that Building 7 was demolished with explosives, and they try to imply that Rosie O'Donnell is crazy to believe the evidence.

Go to Eric Hufschmid's site HugeQuestions or iamthewitness for the videos and other evidence.

I think suzetteanne has another agenda. What do you think?

Who cares..

I'm so sick of this kind of stuff within the TM, that the best response is no response at all. So who doesn't matter. Some people come at this info from the strangest of directions. I would rather not speculate, or waste time on this nonsense!
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

I care. is pure disinfo. Eric Hufschmid's agenda is obvious. While I believe there was some involvement by Israel in 9/11, to say Zionists were the ones who orchestrated 9/11 either very myopic or just the propaganda of a disinfo shill.

Perhaps you are suzetteanne?

Stop being so paranoid

No I'm not that person. Glad they posted this video, and I don't give a flying F__ about those two internet crazy people Jew haters. They are nothing. Give them nothing. Pay them no heed whatsoever. Let's not focus on that. We've got better things to do. Do we pay attention to Jim Fetzer's beam stuff any more? No, and we need not. It's just a waste of time and a distraction, just like the "no planers", same thing there. Do you "get" that idea and where I'm coming from? I'm just so sick of all the "cointelpro" paranoid nonsense. Enough with that. And different people do have different agendas. So what. Who cares.
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

I agree to a point

"I'm just so sick of all the "cointelpro" paranoid nonsense."

But it's NOT "paranoid nonsense". I agree with most of what you said, however I have to ask you if you believe that 'cointelpro' operations do in fact exist? I believe there are ongoing "counter intelligence" operations going on to destroy the truth movement, just as there have been similar counter intel operations throughout recent history. J. Edgar Hoover was the man in charge of destroying the anti-war movement in the 60s and 70s, along with the Black Panthers/civil rights movement, as well as the American Indian Movement (AIM). So these things have and most definitely still exist and they do have to be dealt with. Avoiding and ignoring works in certain situations, but certainly there are other times when confronting these pathetic attempts at destroying us head on is the right thing to do. Bobbing and weaving is a good way to look at it.

consider this

Forgive me Im still new at this blog. Is it possible that the anti-zionist thing is nothing more than A safety-valve to clean house for when the jig is up. If one can blame Isreal for 911 and implicate the "Zionists" then the scapegoats have been procured (like in Germany) and the dark masters fade away behind a false and hollow victory.

The 'Zionism' tactic

Brother, to me it seems more sinister than that.

If 'they' can label us as Zionist-hating, 'they' can and will (and have...) also lump us in with Holocaust deniers, and things get bad very quickly for the 911 truth cause.

I do believe that this is a well-proven tactic for discrediting movements. I have even read that the Israeli intelligence agency itself engages in this tactic to discredit their perceived enemies. I have no proof of that, or links, except maybe this one.

"Evil can only exist as long as we support it."
M.K. Gandhi

So shall we BOYCOTT THE MSM?

here we go again!

Zionist Larry Silverstein (and no that's not a euphemism for Jew--there's a BIG difference, look it up) was the owner of the building that was demolished in the above video--that has been covered up for 6 years, that is being lied about as we speak. Where has he been during all of this? Covering his ass big time by issuing doublespeak statements on camera admitting and then denying that it was demolished. Hedging. The man must stand trial for arson, fraud, conspiracy, murder, etc.

If he is innocent, he will be able to show it. But he won't--he'll plead the fifith and you'll be able to go around saying you're shocked--SHOCKED--that anyone would accuse Zionists of having been involved. The list of Zionists intimately tied in with this criminal administration is long and revealing. And again, don't pretend that by Zionist I mean Jew. Zionists are fanatical supporters of Israel. Look up Dov Zakheim, Richard Perle, Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Scooter Libby--the list goes on--and look into their history as agents of Israel. This is not a slur it is an unfortunate fact.

When you jump into the discussion after a prolonged absence only to defend Zionists it seems like you think it's more important to defend Israel than it is to set the record straight and clear the good name of the world's Arabs and Muslims who are the REAL victims of a hateful blood libel in all of this. Methinks, in other words, that thou protests too much. By God we haven't even MENTIONED the dancing Israelis! Or the fact that Doug Feith, Israel-firster extraordinaire was ALSO in charge of cooking up the false case for war in Iraq. Defend these creeps all you want, pal. Pointing fingers at DBS and Hufschmid at this point is such a lame way to pretend that none of this is important.

Who has a history of attacking people and framing Arabs? Israel. The very FBI said as much in its assessment of the Mossad. Now that people are paying attention and taking money from AIPAC will be seen for what it is, I guess folks like you are bound to start with the excuses and obfuscation. Are Hufschmid and DBS agents? Probably, but that doesn't mean that everything they say is wrong. It means actually that most of what they say is right, with a bunch of offensive stuff sprinkled in to make the correct info seem suspect. Each one of us can sort that out for himself, thank you very much. We were, after all, the ones who exposed 9/11 for the unprecedented and almost literally incredible hoax it was.

Bring it on, pal.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


RT, are you really

a horse for the truth?

Oh God, here we go again

Oh God, here we go again. The only reason I brought this to attention is the fact that the poster of this video on Youtube made sure to promote as the way to find out the truth about 9/11. is a completely sloppy, shoddy, and unprofessional site. I totally agree, there is much evidence that Zionists were involved on some level with 9/11. They certainly benefited from 9/11. This being said, my own personal research does not point to 9/11 being orchestrated solely by Zionists. As a result, I believe Eric Hufschmid and are extremely bad for this movement. I do not trust this guy. His sister is married to Rupert Murdoch's son for crying out loud! Need I say anymore?

Defending Zionists?.....Give Me A Break

"When you jump into the discussion after a prolonged absence only to defend Zionists"

Give me a break. I am not defending Zionists. I understand the difference between a Jew and a Zionist. I am definitely anti-Zionist. I agree, there were high level Zionists involved with orchestrating 9/11 and that the Israeli lobby has too much influence over American foreign policy. However, I do not believe that 9/11 was orchestrated solely by Zionists. To promote this sort of myopic view is aimed only at discrediting the truth movement so we can be conveniently labeled as Holocaust deniers and Jew haters. As a result of this I will not support or Eric Hufschmid. He denounces 99% of the truth movement as being "Zionist Puppets" and tries to paint a picture of 9/11 being solely a Zionist plot. I believe this is not good for the movement. I am very glad this person (suzetteanne) posted the Rosie video on Youtube. I just do not want it associated with Do you now understand, or do I need to state this more clearly for you?

Dov S. Zakheim

Everyone should know this name as it is clear to me that he was part of the core group of 9/11 perpetrators.

In the last six weeks he's been on the Lehrer Newhour twice which makes me want to throw the tv through the window. If he ever speaks publicly anywhere we have to demonstrate vociferously.

Especially noteworthy is his time as CEO of SPC International and that he is currently a Vice President of Booz Allen Hamilton.

If anyone reading this is not familiar with Mr. Zakheim and his activities I highly recommend investigating him. Be warned, it will probably turn your stomach as it did mine.

That said, it is critically important to our success that we build and maintain the strongest firewall possible between anti-Zionism and anything which can be perceived as anti-Jewish. I have no problem with the former, but the latter is just plain blind ignorance and is the fastest path to failure for any public figure or political movement.

RT, I've taken issue with the way you've stated things in the past regarding the probable role of some elements of the Mossad and Israel, but have lately noticed greater care in the way you communicate on this very sensitive subject and want to commend you for this effort. I have never doubted your complete commitment to 9/11 Truth, btw.

Knowledge is power, brothers and sisters. Spread the knowledge and increase our power.

Be well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.


wasnt spc involved in remote controlled aircraft?
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suzetteanne's Youtube Profile

Here is suzetteanne's Youtube profile page. She posted the above video on Youtube and placed the first comment advertising iamthe

Go to her profile page. Almost all of her videos posted on Youtube are Eric Hufschmid related videos.

most likely

I completely agree Hushmidt is probably an agent engaging in discrediting tactis, like attacking many credible people and anti-semitism such as this video of his:

as for suzetteanne...just another name on the internet.


I remember this suzette poster. She is a fan of DBS. Fan could also be spelled as FANatic in this case.

There are different levels of propaganda we can stick our heads into. She has bought one level of it. The worse thing that can happen is to "know" one side of the story and believe it's the whole truth and refuse to change. DBS-stuff also seem to gather similar kind of people together. My honest opinion as an artist myself on this: it feels ugly.

I know who Suzette is. digitally anyway...

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The View

Rosie should get the Jersey Girls on the show to tell their story. And have Paul Thompson too. I think she should avoid the physicist route for now until she can establish a pattern of deceit from the administration. Otherwise, she'll be setting herself up for a zero sum battle where most of the viewers don't understand the language of physics, and don't care to learn without an emotional investment.

If she brings on the Jersey Girls, then the audience will finally know the extent of what they've not been told, and it will come from people they sympathize with. IMO, it would be the most powerful way to reach people.

You folks think if might be a good approach?


She knows

That Building 7 is undeniable, and may be aware that the Zogby Poll demonstrated, that of those who were aware of Building 7 and the way it came down, 90% were truthers. If she can force a debate about Building 7, then we win that debate, as evidenced by this very thread. It's very clear and something that a LOT of people didn't even know about, and didn't even know that they didn't know..

Also, once people look into 7, what happens? Then they think about and look into the way the towers came crumbling down at near free fall speed because of fire, even though they were hit by planes. If #7 was demo'd, then the likelihood increases by many many orders of magnitude, that so too were the twin towers themselves.

Jim Miegs and Popular Mechanics response, that's solidified now, and it's utterly absurd. The "scoop" is fake, and whether "melted" or "weakened", steel skycrapers do not fall as a sole result of fire, it just doesn't happen, ever. They are made of steel. Fire can gut the whole building and it won't free fall to the ground like a controlled demolition. That's her point, and it's a great point of leverage. I think she should stick with it, and have Steven Jones and David Ray Griffin on, and I'm sure she can't wait to plug Loose Change, Final Cut with Charlie Sheen either. She'll be attacked relentlessly, but then people will have to reply to the content of the film, which is going to be very TIGHT, and very undebunkable.

My our movement is in great shape! So many times it seemed like it was dead in the water, and then something happened to propell it into the collective consciousness.

Edit: All that said, ANYTHING she does 9/11 truth wise is good, so yeah that's a good idea. But she's limited as to what she can do and she knows it, so she tried to pick the best thing to highlight, and no doubt it's Building 7.

“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

Another shoe is going to drop

Rosie O'donnell must have heavy hitting backup lined up to have exposed herself in such dramatic fashion.

More amazing things are going to happen. O'Donnell is a charismatic and very powerful as we are witnessing.

It is a pleasure to watch such a remarkable individual rise to a great challenge.

agreed, it's not "just her"

one of the comments on her site was "are you afraid you'll get fired and have you talked to BW?" (barbara walters-it's her show)

Rosie says? no and yes.

they ALL know--they are breaking it to the Elizabeth Hasselbeck types across America. EH in fact is most likely playing along--as people who identify with her watch, she's going to slowly but surely come around, giving them someone to model their own transformation on.

Even BO will probably be whistling a VERY different tune in about a year, and most likely his viewers will see nothing amiss with his becoming a truther, because at that point they too will be truthers. It remains to be seen what version of the truth (i.e. what parts are left out) but they WILL be flip flopping on this, and most likely getting away with it. The world is big and complicated--sometimes it behaves in a werid manner. If you thought 9/11 was bizarre and led to cognitive dissonance, just wait until it is exposed. The weirdness is only beginning folks, but this time it's for the best--if we stick with this and keep them honest.


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where will this leave the

where will this leave the left gatekeepers though? I agree with you, we will be seeing major flip flopping as it gets exposed that the government's story is shoddy as hell. And you will see people pull off major turn arounds. And it will actually be believable for those who defend the administration all the time. "How were they supposed to know?" But it will be more difficult for the left gatekeepers constantly complaining for years about being inundated with info they considered distractions.


Rosie's challenges to the official story have been event specific (building 7), yet not site specific. That's important. By default, the information flow may be directed towards That might be by design on Rosie's part, because I've found (as a layman) to be pretty much bulletproof.

Kevin Danaher is a major gatekeeper (his wife is Medea Benjamin), who offers a comment on "911 Guilt: The Proof is in Your Hands" within the site. So does Ed Asner. I haven't seen the dvd, so I can't talk about it's content, perhaps someone else has.

Maybe we need to thank Barbara Walters

Starting to look like Barbara Walters is a closet truther.

Don't get in a pissing contest with popular mechanics, the real task is just to get most people to know that building 7 existed and that it fell.

What does Geraldo really know?

I watched Geraldo argue with O'Reilly about Rosie.

Geraldo gave the impression that he thinks Rosie is a nutjob, but that it is her right to speak her mind.

Is this how Geraldo genuinely thinks?

If he really thinks that 9/11 was not an inside job, isn't that a hopeful situation in that he can at least in principle be persuaded that it was, with potentially great consequences?

On the other hand, if he's just pretending that he thinks it wasn't an inside job...

Thanks for your views.

I agree

Hey stuartprovine,

For what my opinion is worth, I also think bringing on the Jersey widows would be just superb, and lots better than sticking with physics. It is too easy, it seems, to find physicists and engineers who are willing to lie or, incrediby, to fool themselves. So the public just gets confused.

I would like to see a major gathering of academic types from engineering departments all over the country, and architectural departments, along with physicists, who would just look into all the available evidence. Don't bring the public in on it before that happens.

No sane engineer, when faced with real-life scientific arguments, could support anything but a CD theory, obviously. But the public can't think that way until after the experts do. I think a very strong consensus would emerge out of such a conference.

"Evil can only exist as long as we support it."
M.K. Gandhi

So shall we BOYCOTT THE MSM?


Meigs is so laughable. Gosh. What a f*** moron.
Like straight out of a movie.
"..bombs and other mysterious things..."
Yea sure, the building fell mysteriously, but of course it didnt take "mysterious" things like bombs for that to happen.
Haha. Another great explanation from that useful idiot.

Useful is right!

We could not have been given a better nerd. You know, the way they edited that, a lot of weight fell on his shoulders there. Must make him just cring to really think about what he's doing, why, and for whom..

Someone at the Loose Change forum went to school with him. He's well educated and from an upper class family. Plenty of choices for someone of his pedigree.. and this is what he's chosen. You ALMOST feel sorry for him watching that. Part of his JOB is to help guard the Big Lie of 9/11. Nice job on ya!
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush


Found that guy in Jeff Gannons little black book.

Hey Jeff.... do you know any rich boys who don't want their parents to know that you did their favors?
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Probably a Mason

Just like Mark Roberts.

He does it for brownie points from the "elite" believing mistakenly that they control history.

What''ll he do if NIST comes out with a demolition blast hypothesis, however unlikely that is. Could you imagine that if you were him?
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth”
~ George W. Bush

"Straight" out of a movie...

....not if I had to guess....

Seriously,....yeah, there is always some weak weasel-ey guy that is a total too-anxious-to-please. amoral. quivering supplicant to corrupt power in the gangster movie of your choice....

I'm sure there are better cinematic examples, but Fredo in The Godfather comes to mind....

Oh God, here we go again

Oh God, here we go again. The only reason I brought this to attention is the fact that the poster of this video on Youtube made sure to promote as the way to find out the truth about 9/11. is a completely sloppy, shoddy, and unprofessional site. I totally agree, there is much evidence that Zionists were involved on some level with 9/11. They certainly benefited from 9/11. This being said, my own personal research does not point to 9/11 being orchestrated solely by Zionists. As a result, I believe Eric Hufschmid and are extremely bad for this movement. I do not trust this guy. His sister is married to Rupert Murdoch's son for crying out loud! Need I say anymore?

Seven "burned for 10 hours"?

So now it is as many as 10 hours?

Let's see... The North Tower collapsed at 10:28 and Seven fell at 5:20. There's a difference of 6 hours and 52 minutes.

They are saying that Seven started to burn even before the South Tower collapsed! That's *interesting*!


The local "Gun-ho Sunday Morning Radio Show" here in Peoria is currently attacking Rosie.

They are big troop supporters and they are saying that Rosie is speaking out about the troops amongst other Right wing talking points mixed with lies...... they said that the View has lost 2 to 3 million viewers.

They have called her everything they could on the radio

Very nice Trump FOX complex
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Here is my message:

Hey Guys,

I listen to your show nearly every week when I can. I appreciate your support of the troops. We have to do all we can for our boys and girls!

Unfortunately your views have been a bit corrupted by your Republican Nationalist views.

While I do not agree with Rosie O'Donnell on many things, I have looked at the things that she has been speaking about recently.

It sounds as if you have not researched this very far. Have you seen the collapse of World Trade Center 7? It is very suspicious to say the least.

Steel structure buildings do not collapse due to fire. Building 7 was not hit by a plane. Nevr before in history has a steel structure fallen due to fire.... and never since.

If you have never watched the film "Loose Change".... you may be drastically surprised. There is a reason that upwards of 20 million people have seen this and just as many question the governments portrail of the events of September 11th, 2001

Building 7..... buildings do not fall at near free fall speed into their own footprint without a little help.
Did our government have a hand in this? .....Well they sure didn't want to have anything to do with having anything resembling a real investigation into the events.

This is a very good explanation of the science:

I did not hear Rosie speak any bad words about our troops. She didn't even blame our government for 9/11. If you are going to be an O'Reilley parrot then we might as well watch listen to him and forget you.

And your quote about the View losing viewers was completely biased and incorrect. If you must lie to make your points then you know you are wrong and that is the only thing that resounds to your listeners.

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Unpopular Mechanics

Great pictures! I think I'll cut and paste the real versus the photo-shopped pix and add them as inserts, along with some commentary, in local grocery store copies.

I wrote the scumbags at Hearst. If anyone wants to flip a comment or two, here is their e-mail:

WTC photo analysis - Did I get the floors right on this?

Did I get the floors right on this? Or am I off by 1?

This is more evidence that the NIST photo is fake.

A few errors...

30 should be 31

and you have lost another floor by 20.. should be 22...

your 10 should be 12

35 and above are correct...

Hope this helps, best wishes

Thanks. I think that I have it right now

Thanks. I think that I have it right now. Refresh your browser as I replaced the image at the same location.

Does that look right now?

If you want a laugh, look at the images on this page:


add to my post above

The images on the page are internally contradictory.

They have the fake NIST image and the image that shows it to be fake!

Spot on...

you can lose the "Estimate" statement, from your floors text on the image...

It is now 100% factually correct.

Best wishes

What next?

I guess many, like me, have found the notorious picture somehow "wrong" from the beginning. Actually, months ago I wrote to Deke MacCelland, the author of the "Photoshop 5" book, asking him what ways there are to identify a "Photoshopped" photo. Alas, he never answered.

But it's great to see one's suspicions confirmed.

Now we need to make best use of this revelation. What would that be?

It is very hard to tell, but I believe you are probably...

...right on the number now (either that or extremely close). I have been looking at this question (of the floor numbering) all afternoon.

I found another thread on this topic today over at Democratic Underground (here):

Also, this is a good article (and site) close to the subject:

Good luck!

James Meigs

I don't think James Meigs is a good person.


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Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

5 to 10

a few weeks ago on foxnews they had someone on and they were trying to debunk Building 7. the guy (who definitely was not an expert) said that Building 7 had a 5 story gash in it and that the foundation was all out-of-whack from falling debris. OUT-OF-WHACK, give me a break. i have a degree in construction management and out-of-whack is never a term used in construction. Second, anyone who knows anything about construction knows that the foundation is ALWAYS, REPEAT, ALWAYS UNDERGROUND. so how does debris damage something underground, it cant. he also said the gash was 5 stories, and now they are saying 10. seems to me that they are getting desperate.

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th;
malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty."

-George W. Bush November 11, 2001

Interesting Inside Edition piece supposedly "debunking" Rosie.

Although their clip was not that convincing at debunking, it was very informative in allowing America to see over and over again just how WTC7 came down, something the US mainstream media has been deficit in doing so far, as America NEEDS TO SEE HOW THIS BUILDING CAME DOWN (the obvious Achilles Heel of the murderers).

Inside Edition, whether they know it or not, actually helped expose the truth about 9/11, and in doing so, they validate a brave American, Rosie O'Donnell.

The cracks in the dam are starting to give way.

Why doesn't someone...

...get in touch with Rosie and tell her that if she manages to get guests on to discuss WTC 7, and those guests are 'unfriendly', just before introducing the guest she can give her viewers a link to a specific page at this site that will provide an analysis of what was said by the guest. If she misses a chance for a strong rebuttal on some point (like the whole melted/weakened steel mis-direction from the PM guy), viewers can go to this site to see what other people have to say about what was talked about.

I don't know if this would work, but it wouldn't hurt to try. There's nothing worse than watching some a$$hole spew semi-credible-sounding nonsense on t.v., and you have no way of jumping in and calling him/her on it. Hopefully we can provide a sort of "Charles Goyette interviews Davin Coburn" kinda service to the viewers.

Just a thought...

The 911 Prestige: Media Magicians React to Rosie

All of you were an inspiration to me today. I gathered together some of the source links and posted the following clip:

I believe the NIST photo of the damage building is not only fabricated, but, if true, would also suggest WTC7should tip to one side. I compare Inside Edition's presentation to the three parts of a stage magician's trick in the movie, "The Prestige".



Rosie for President! -or how about "Queen of Hollywood"!

Rosie, I always hated that first sit-com you did, until I watched some of the re-runs. Actually, my 'opinions' were clouded by another actress bearing a marked similarity to yourself. She was simply 'jealous,' as ALL of your fans should be today! -You ROCK girl!

Rosie's like J.R. Ewing. -You gotta hate her sometimes. :)

I think we should lock-up the phones at O'Riley and PopMech, with calls of rabid praise; how 'justice' cannot be served unless they actually 'kill her' on National TV! ...With 40'k calls at press-time, it would suffice for a strong 'f-you'.

(Hopefully, now you see why I was right to say 6 months ago that we should make single-sheets bearing '9/11Truth' -issues and sign them with mainstream actors names. Pretty soon, nobody would know who had said what. Big shots like T Cruise couldn't hide behind their wimpy little pretty-boy faces much longer.)