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THE INEVITABLE BOOK-PLUG THREAD FOR "TRUTH JIHAD"

(Alright, listen up. There's a new book out, see? "Truth Jihad" by Kevin Barrett. And John Leonard of Progressive Press and the author Kevin Barrett want you to pony up, get your belly to the bar, put your money where your mouth is {insert cliche here} and buy enough copies to sink the Lusitania. First a word from Leonard, then an open letter from Barrett... -r.)

Kevin Barrett, America's Funniest 9/11 Author, Launches New Book, Lauds Rosie O'Donnell, Excommunicates O'Reilly from Irish America

by John Leonard, Progressive Press

Author of "Truth Jihad" Vents Trademark Outrageous Political Humor in 11th of the Month Action, Goes on Midwest Tour with World's Most Famous Janitor and 9/11 Hero William Rodriguez

Milwaukee, WI April 11, 2007. Barrett, the world's leading Irish Muslim truth jihadi, has come out in two-fisted support of "fightin' 9/11 truth-teller 'Irish Rosie' O'Donnell" -- while demanding that accused "sex-harasser and bully Bill O'Reilly admit that he is not Irish at all!"

"O'Reilly's true father was a slinkin' yellow-bellied polecat, not an Irishman," Barrett blustered. "And if ye still want ta throw me in the drink, ye slitherin' coward, I'll meet ye at the banks o' the River Liffey at high noon on Bloomsday next."

Satirist Barrett, the object of a nationally-televised death threat from O'Reilly, made the remarks over a pint of non-alcoholic Guinness while celebrating the release of his new book Truth Jihad: My Epic Struggle Against the 9/11 Big Lie.

Barrett's Truth Jihad is a unique blend of autobiography, humor, and barbed polemics, plus a sprinkling of "false flag facts" added by the editor after Publishers Weekly opined that Barrett didn't prove that 9/11 was an inside job. Outside the confines of the media conglomerates, the book has gathered a bouquet of early rave reviews -- see http://www.waronfreedom.org/mujca/tj-reviews.html .

Barrett is also on a tour with 9/11 hero William Rodriguez. (see http://mujca.com/rodriguez.htm) They kicked off in Ann Arbor, MI on April 7th and go on to Chicago on Thursday, Apr. 19th, Milwaukee on the 25th and Madison WI on Sat. April 21st.

Barrett is speaking and signing books at Serb Hall in Milwaukee with Jim Fetzer on the evening of April 11th . See http://ts911t.org for details.

After dissing O'Lielly, Barrett raised his glass to brave Irishwoman Rosie O'Donnell. "Ye've got ta have a sense of humor as well as courage in this business," Barrett said, "and Rosie's got both. Long live St. Rosie!"

Barrett added that he and O'Donnell would be happy to dismember O'Lielly and his fellow Faux News moron Sean Vanity in a nationally-televised tag-team bout "any time they want."

When questioned, "Are you sure Bill O'Reilly is not O'Really Irish," Barrett harrumphed that "he may have been once, but he's been excommunicated."

Another exchange drew a more professorial answer from Prof. Barrett:
"Is it true Woodward and Bernstein said that O'Reilly was a CIA asset?"
"No, the Bernstein article came out before Hannity and O'Reilly were nationally known."
"So, the I in CIA doesn't stand for Irish?"
Barrett: "No, that's my group: Crazy Irish-Americans."
"And does BOR (Bill O'Reilly's initials) actually stand for Bore?"
Barrett: "Yes, what you have there is actually a very large-bore bore."

For more info please see:
Wikipedia for biographies of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Barrett Barrett and Rodriguez http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rodriguez ,
Their websites, www.mujca.com and http://www.911keymaster.com/ .
O'Reilly sex harassment suit: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7578-2004Oct28.html
O'Reilly vs. O'Donnell: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407oreillymafia.htm

Barrett's Truth Jihad is available from bookstores, from Amazon.com, from lulu.com and from the publisher, Progressive Press ( http://www.waronfreedom.org ). Review copies available on request. It's priced at an unusually affordable $9.95 for a 224 page work.

Kevin Barrett is a man on a mission, armed with a ready sense of humor -- and we're gonna need all we can get in our "Epic Struggle!"

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Kevin Barrett begs you to buy lots of copies of his book!

by Kevin Barrett

An open letter to the 9/11 truth community,

Once again I’m turning to you for help.

My book Truth Jihad: My Epic Struggle Against the 9/11 Big Lie has just been published by Progressive Press. Though it’s dedicated “to my 9/11 truth friends and colleagues” (and my family) I didn’t write it just for you. I decided to write this kind of book—the first humorous, entertaining 9/11 truth book, and the first one priced under ten dollars—so you could give it to your friends, family, neighbors, elected officials, and others who aren’t on board yet.

Truth Jihad is the first 9/11 truth book that isn’t primarily tasked with proving 9/11 complicity. Ironically, it is the best possible introduction to the subject for the roughly 50% of Americans who aren’t sure what to think of 9/11. Why? Because the barriers to 9/11 truth are psychological, not factual.

Barrier #1: “This is so depressing.” Or, as my faculty colleague once said, “I’ve been afraid to look into this because I’m afraid it might be true.” Truth Jihad sneaks past that barrier with humor and joie de vivre. Amazon’s top reviewer compared it to Mencken and Rabelais – two hilarious, bawdy, yet deeply serious authors WHO ARE FUN TO READ. While I don’t pretend to be the literary equal of these guys, Truth Jihad is definitely fun to read. And while angry at times, it’s also upbeat and inspiring. If your unconvinced neighbor thinks 9/11 truthers must be glum, boring paranoids, this book will set her straight.

Barrier #2: “Conspiracy theorists are crazy.” Closely related to barrier #1, this is the ad hominem argument that apologists for the official story endlessly resort to. How to respond? Humorless, obsessively-repeated arguments for one’s own sanity, backed by painstakingly detailed evidence that 9/11 was indeed an inside job, may backfire. Truth Jihad sneaks past barrier #2 by having some fun with it while offering the autobiography of a “conspiracy theorist.” As my preface puts it:

“While you may conclude that I have led an unusually eventful and not always respectable life, and that some of my experiences have been stranger than fiction, I doubt that you will finish this book thinking that I am a lunatic, or that my opinions on 9/11 are entirely baseless.

“Then again, maybe you will. It’s your call.”

Now THAT’S a challenge to the 9/11 neophyte!

Special AUTOGRAPHED book offer for MUJCA list members & 9/11 truthers!

So come on, folks, what are you waiting for? Buy a bunch of Truth Jihads and give them to anyone you know who SHOULD be smart enough to figure 9/11 out but isn’t quite there yet.

Just to give you a little incentive, I’ll personally autograph them (just give me the name of your neighbor, sister etc. and any message I should pass on)...AND pay the postage...AND offer a quantity discount: Ten bucks each, seven for fifty bucks, or fifteen for $100.

I have a limited quantity on hand, and will be heading for Morocco on May 6th in hopes of interviewing “suicide hijacker” Waleed Al Shehri: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
If something were to happen to me (Allah forbid)...or if the US invaded Iran and I decided to open a restaurant in Casablanca instead of returning to a godforsaken fascist hellhole...you’d never have another chance to get my autograph ; )

So don’t hesitate, snarf up those autographed books while they last!

Yours in the struggle for truth,

Kevin Barrett
kevin(at)mujca.com

anybody else getting

anybody else getting messages saying Debunking 9/11 Debunking is delayed until June? My amazon.com order first said it was shipping march 10 but now says June 5th. Has anybody heard anything?

Same here

I received the same message but I did get my copy of "Crossing the Rubicon"

Tip.... get two copies of the book of buy another book because if you spend $30 you get free shipping!! unless you'd rather pay $7 for nothing.

If "Truth Jihad" is anywhere near the quality of Kevin Barretts presentations then this book is a must have. I didn't buy a copy when I saw his last presentation because he sold out. I wanted the others there to get a copy.
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Crossing the Rubicon is very

Crossing the Rubicon is very enjoyable. Just skip the peak oil sections and youll have one of the most fascinating books about 9/11 next to Synthetic Terror.

Same Here

Same here with my local bookshop: delay. I'm of course suspicious, as always. I would love to hear from David Ray Griffin on the matter. Especially because it coincided with some suspect Rosie plea to not show up at ABC. Maybe I'm being paranoid. But you the saying, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean your suspicions are incorrect.

Regarding the delay,...

Maybe you should contact Griffin's publisher, Interlink Books.

Peak oil = 9/11

Hm, wrong baby, deadly wrong!
If you skip the peak oil section you won't get the whole picture. And that sais 9/11 is only a first act in a very long and nasty descent of this energy rich civilization into even more nastier and violant future..

Well, if you ask most of the people want to have full fridge, suburban house, thirsty SUV and all the crap even at the price of staged falseflags, invasions of other (energy rich countries) etc.

I have still hope down inside me but realistically, the 9/11 issue will soon be replaced by more imminent type of crises and events largely because of the peak oil - energy depletion phenomenon and blamed for any imaginable reasons instead..

The positive message of peakoil is that most probably no other advanced civilizations will have the means to rape this planet as this stupid contraption called homo sapiens at least for the next fex million years as all the resources be it oil, gas, ores, coal are only available with advanced technology, the easiest were used long time ago..

"Hm, wrong baby, deadly

"Hm, wrong baby, deadly wrong!"

i think youll find that most people here were big fans of Ruppert until his entire focus became peak oil.

I do believe the concept general;ly exsists, i just think his book should stick to 9/11 and not become an excuse to preech his peak oil views (which i disagree with to a great extent)

Considering the solutions are the same, reguardless--

.reducing consumption/dependency on forgeign oil, developing alternate energy resources, stopping wars in the middle east, etc. etc.--

--I don't see why we need to make an international incident out of it. Pun intended.

And, yes, I think "peak oil" is an urgent concern. But as long as we agree on the solutions, it's not worth strangling each other over. ;-)

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

I have no idea if peak oil

I have no idea if peak oil is true or not, but I have learned something about how supply and demand determines price. So it's good for big oil business to convince us that oil is peaking or disappearing, that gives short supply, high demand and high prices. It is also cheaper logistically. You can ship high quantities for low prices or low quantities for high prices, and still get the same profit or actually even more with saved transport. So long as most people don't really have a choice, since they are tied to the car, high prices are naturally preferred.
The excuse for high prices would be peak-oil, something you and I cannot just go out and verify, but only a few experts from the oil business decides. So I find it very suspect... I like Ruppert alot though. I am not saying he's not right, I just really doubt it.

Peak oil is another globalist boogeyman

There are plenty of alternatives. Water is fuel. Our bodies utilize it. Jules Vern-the guy that predicted space travel once said that "water is the fuel of the future". Don't let the globalists fool you. Go to the link below or go to google video and type "water fuel". That's just ONE alternative. The globalists rely on lies and psychological techniques to keep the rest of us sucking from their teets. Personally I'm quite sick of the taste and I've taken matters into my own hands. This summer I'll be driving across country on a gasoline/water hybrid (the jump to pure water is beyond my tinkering skills at the moment...). Down with the NWO up with the PEOPLE!!!

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)
OIL IS OBSOLETE - WAKE UP - YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO, AGAIN!
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/

Don't let the globalists fool you

don't let other charlatans, either.

I am extremely skeptical of the free energy camp, as I've seen way too much deceptions and pseudoscience in this regard, already. I could go off a tangent and explain why water is no fuel, and how that relates to why there is so much of it -- however, you say you have a system in use, so if you elaborate on its concept and energy balance for my benefit, I promise that I will once again consider the notion of free energy, as rationally as I can. Deal?
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Where did I say anything

Where did I say anything about "free" energy? I merely stated that I am using a crude water splitting device for MPG boosting. I will eventually be taking on the project described in this video which is stand alone. If you're interested in the fine details then I suggest you join the yahoo group "hydroxy" or "watercar". By definition fuel is a source of energy for running engines. Would you consider the air under pressure being used to run the ICE's in Austrailia fuel? H20 could be used just the same. It's a lot less efficient than taking advantage of h20's dielectric properties as this video describes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqfiAXIs3Xc

If people invest their money expecting to make a quick buck that's their own fault for being greedy. If people decide to try to replicate someone else's claims in the name of science then more power to them. I intend on replicating what Stan did and if I wind up with "free" energy then fantastic, if not, well I will have learned a lot of useful things along the way(including how all the components work in my car, how to build electronic circuits, etc.). I don't know what the efficiency is yet of my crude electrolysis device. I've clocked 6K miles on my car without using it for a baseline and I intend on performing an ANOVA with the data I collect this summer driving across country. Trial and error.

BTW what is your explanation of the energy in the vaccum effect? It's an interesting phenomenon. Keep in mind we made huge leaps understanding the naturalworld around us last century. I highly doubt we know everything there is to know about this universe.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)
OIL IS OBSOLETE - WAKE UP - YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO, AGAIN!
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/

You mean the Casimir effect?

I'm not sure.

Fuel is a source of energy, correct -- but your ICE example is about volume/pressure (correct terminus?), not chemical or nuclear energy. A spring can store energy, but that doesn't make steel a fuel.

What I'd like to know is the principle behind this device of yours. It sounds like it's a modified conventional combustion engine -- so where does the water come in? And when you say you "don't know what the efficiency is" -- are there noticeable improvements on the former MPG? I was referring to "free energy" because afaik, Meyer's apparatus is supposed to perform electrolysis on its own -- nothing less than a perpetuum mobile.

I don't highly doubt we know everything there is to know about this universe -- I'm entirely sure we do not. However, that doesn't imply there were miracles around the corner.
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My ICE example does rely on

My ICE example does rely on pressure to provide the work force needed to move the pistons. So technically speaking water and air alone would not be a "fuel" per se. So I was wrong in using that term. The point I was trying to convey is that work may be done using methods other than burning different forms of petrol. The average reader won't understand these differences so I had simplified my explanation regarding work.The water in these instances is first split and then burned. So once it is in that form I would personally consider it a fuel.

So the principle behind the device I'm using is what I mentioned in the previous two sentences. A nonconducting container houses multiple perforated Stainless Steel(SS) 316 plates. These plates are positively and negatively charged via power through a relay. The current comes from the alternator so it isn't free, it is just excess being used to create the gas. The h20 container has about %3 potassium hydroxide added to allow the water to carry current. This current creates the HH0 (Brown's gas). This Brown's gas is being redirected through a saftey bubbler. It then enters the air intake right before the throttle body on my car. This is far from ideal and I know that. I have run the car with it hooked up like this but without a circuit controlling the air/fuel ratio it will not have an affect on MPG. It will only increase the power during combustion. I don't have the money to invest in a dyno test so I can not objectively say the power is increasing(theoretically it will but who knows how much). Now I literally just finished building a circuit to control the air/fuel ratio. My current setup has the Brown's gas entering through the air line so my circuit will allow me to make graded steps down from the normal amount of gasoline injected. The Brown's gas will make up for the lowered gasoline injection up to a certain point. That's what I have yet to figure out. I plan on driving ~2k miles for each graded step(as long as the car isn't running too thin). This will allow me to use an ANOVA to analyze the efficiency of this device. It should fall within 0%- 30% inprovement from what I have heard from others.

Please keep in mind that the device I am using is a brute force electrolysis machine. The design Stanley A. Meyer has literally uses the water chamber as a massive capacitor that eventually fails resulting in a massive release of HHO. His device is way more sophisticated than the device I have. I plan to start making the circuits required for his patent. I had zero knowledge of circuits and their operation before August last year so this entire process has been a learning one for me.

Meyer's device needs a kickstart but once it is going it is supposed to be able to continue producing a certain percentage more than it requires to get it started. Newtonian physics happen to be a subset of the "laws" that are in action in our universe or so Tesla claimed.

Has your friend replicated Meyer's device exactly? I have seen some similar devices online however the resonant choke charge wasn't included so the device didn't perform as expected.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)
OIL IS OBSOLETE - WAKE UP - YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO, AGAIN!
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/

Alright

so it's conventional electrolysis -- as I suspected. The thing is: There is no such thing as excess energy from the alternator -- the more electrical power you withdraw, the more mechanical power you have to invest. Just imagine: were it not so, you could build a generator in an evacuated container with magnetic (i.e. frictionless) bearing, which could -- once revolving -- supply electrical energy indefinitely.

So, the alternator's current is but a transformation of mechanical energy, initially supplied by the gasoline's chemical energy, which is then again converted into chemical energy by dissolving H2O's bonds via electrolysis, and finally converted back into mechanical energy by burning it. The bottom line is: You add some unnecessary conversion steps to meet the same ends -- turning chemical energy into revolutions -- and conversions seldomly go without losses. There is no gain.

Unless there is something about this "resonant choke charge" thingy -- but this is where I object unless being supplied evidence.

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Your points are all valid

My point is supply manipulation is NOT mutually exclusive to(with?) peak oil. In fact, if accurate, they would be happening AT THE SAME TIME. ;-)

I suppose what gets to me about this and other subjects is the either/or thinking. It keeps us from seeing the totality of possibilities.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Don't forget these facts

FBI Director Robert Mueller has admitted in public that there is actually no evidence that proves the named 9-11 hijackers were actually on the aircraft. Mueller admitted on CNN on September 20 and 27 that the FBI had no proof of the identities of the men actually on board the airplanes.

In an April 19 speech delivered to the Common wealth Club in San Francisco, Mueller said that the purported hijackers, in his words, “left no paper trial.” The FBI director stated flatly, "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper—either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere—that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot." In describing Mueller’s evidence fiasco, Los Angeles Times reporters Erich Lichtblau and Josh Meyer, whose article was reprinted in The Washington Post on April 30, note that: Law enforcement officials say that while they have been able to reconstruct the movements of the hijackers before the attacks—all legal except for a few speeding tickets—they have found no evidence of their actual plotting.

Now think about that for a moment. What Mueller admitted is that despite all the immediate pronouncements of these Arab names and assertions that they all worked for Osama bin Laden, the FBI with all its investigatory powers did not find one single piece of evidence that actually connected these Arab men to the events of 9-11. All the FBI had were fake IDs found in suitcases left conspicuously where they could be found.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/framingarabs.html

Off topic - If you want to meet the Australian 9/11 Truth......

please go to blogs home and check out our first action and video at the Sydney Town Hall.

Kind regards John

WE GOT TO THE POWER BACK!

Ozzie's are the shizzzzznit!

Ozzie's are the shizzzzznit! The tinkerer's in their country seem to be on the cutting edge of using water for fuel(and other sources). The one thing the globalists probably never expected was for the people to pool their intelligence and humanity across continents. NWO is goin' down! We must root out this evil across the globe to give a strong warning to others who would try oppressing the people's of the world.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)
OIL IS OBSOLETE - WAKE UP - YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO, AGAIN!
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/

This also makes the alleged testimony of KSM

and friends extremely important. The FBI can show that these guys lived here or there during this or that period of time, but the substance of what they said or did is entirely dependent on the alleged testimony of detainees we have yet to see. Even the Commission never met these guys.

Excuse me

but is "Truth Jihad" the best choice for a title?

The average Joe thinks that terrorists are lurking everywhere. A title with the word Jihad would make them disregard the book automatically. One of our goals is to get outsiders to listen.

Just my 2 cents.....

how about "TRUTH CRUSADE"

or would that be the opposit negative on the other side of the world.

Ya think?

There's nothing wrong with the word "jihad," and by capitulating to an assumption that the public equates everything Islamic with terrorism is just fuel on that fire.

Want to see what the next Holocaust is going to be like? Check these people out.

"There's nothing wrong with

"There's nothing wrong with the word "jihad," and by capitulating to an assumption that the public equates everything Islamic with terrorism is just fuel on that fire."

i totally agree with this, being afraid to use the word is just letting the assholes in power win. Muslims everywhere should not be afraid to use a word which means something completely different than what we were led to believe post 9/11

Only one chance

The word 'jihad' is quite positive, in Arabic -- or so I have been told by native speakers. It means, essentially, 'struggle' -- again, as I gather: I do not speak Arabic but have only heard this explanation.

Mohammad spoke of 'al jihad al asgar' and 'al jihad al akbar,' the lesser struggle and the greater struggle. The lesser struggle is outside, against agressors and so on. The greater struggle, according to Muhammad, is inward: against our own selfishness, anger, fear, greed, and so on.

That said, there is so much antipathy toward Muslims in this country, fanned by ignorant publicity, that this word 'jihad' will turn the ordinary reader off. And as they say, you have only one chance to make a first impression.

Thanks for this information

valuable, interesting stuff.
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Only one chance....... ...........cont.

By the way, in Islam and according to the Qur'an, you can't fight unless attacked. It can only be in self-defence, or in defence of the homeland, facing attack. You also can't kill or injure non-combatants, even if they are on the enemy side. Thus, bombing cities could not occur, in valid Islam.

Again, I am no expert here. But I did actually read this, in a verse in the Qur'an. I purchased a copy just to gain some awareness of what it says.

For your consideration

it never ends

Sorry if off-topic

MIAMI (Reuters) - The nephew of confessed September 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed acknowledged sending more than $100,000 to one of the hijackers who crashed a plane into the World Trade Center, according to a Pentagon transcript released on Thursday.

Link?

Geggy, could you post this as a news item, or a blog, or both? Or, at a minimum, provide a link?

GODDAMNIT!!!!!

this would have been so sweet:

Was Kurt Vonnegut A 9/11 Truther?
Cult icon was one of Bush administration's fiercest critics

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, April 12, 2007

Legendary author and cultural icon Kurt Vonnegut sadly died yesterday at the age of 84, seemingly before he was able to go public on his doubts about the official story behind 9/11 and join a cadre of other well-known personalities in lending support to the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Vonnegut had seen Alex Jones' videos about 9/11 and government sponsored terror and asked Alex to send him more, after which Alex Jones received a personalized drawing and a letter back from Kurt and was in the process of trying to set him up for an appearance on his radio show before he became ill.
From all indications and other people Alex Jones had talked to, it seemed clear that Vonnegut was ready to add his name to the growing list of high profile public figures who have risked their reputations to slam the official 9/11 story.

Vonnegut had obviously come into contact with and researched the subject with the aid of Alex Jones' documentary films.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/120407kurtvonnegut.htm

Bully O Irish-American?

Bully O is not only a disgrace to Americans he is also a disgrace to all Irish-Americans like myself. I wrote him an e-mail and blasted him about it. (as if that does any good) He should be excommunicated not only from America and Ireland but from the entire human race. Pure Nazi.

Speaking of a disgrace to

Speaking of a disgrace to Americans and the human race in general, did anyone hear the clip of Dennis Miller and Dana Carvey on AJ today? Absolutely sickening. Dana made a big joke of 911 truth, to which Miller cackled like a ravenous hyena. The "Bush planted the bombs" strawman was erected. Jones played the clip just before a family member came on, who said he'd like a minute or two in a soundproof room with those bastards.

Funny thing is, you could tell Miller's uproarious laughter at Dana's suggestion "what if Rosie's right?" was of the NERVOUS sort, almost hysterical, certainly not from the heart, as though he knew deep down that it was no laughing matter, and indeed that he and his ilk will have a lot to answer for when the dam breaks.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Nafeez Ahmed

"The War on Truth"
by Nafeez Ahmed

also don't forget Sander Hicks' book: "The Big Wedding"

or Hopsicker's book: "Welcome to Terrorland"

all are must haves, along w/ Ruppert of course.

I think I'm the only one disappointed w/ Tarpley's book, he doesn't source well.

Peak Oil

I'm more worried about the honey bees right now.

We have fiddled with the forces of nature.

http://www.truthcult.com

It's not a contest--it's all worrying

But I know what you mean. Fortunately honey bees are relatively recent--mason bees and bumble bees and wasps can take up the slack, assuming you have enough habitats for them.

BTW: rescued a half drowned bumbler in my water can the other day. She must have been groggy, just out of hybernation or something. Put her on a blooming hyacinth to recover for a hour, then she was off buzzing around the kale flowers.;-)

I know what you mean though. I haven't seen as many pollinators so far this year and the quince flowers or going, the apple blossoms are half out. I'm hoping when the buckwheat gets up--parasitic wasp attractor--things will improve.

Cross fingers.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

I don't know what to make of

I don't know what to make of the infowars article on honey bees. Keep in mind that other insects go into flowers. Bees are just the big boys. Additionally, my father had a few bee hives for years and he told me the reason they had been wiped out (in Maryland) was because of mites. I don't know if this is true or not. I do know that Maryland is one of the hardest hit by acid rain and I think that's what's killing off a lot of the pine trees in that region. Just my speculation. Look at a map of rain acidity if you get the chance, it's pretty interesting.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)
OIL IS OBSOLETE - WAKE UP - YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO, AGAIN!
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/

Show "Off Subject- Micro-Nukes in WTC?" by maddog

I have an open mind

And I know mini-nukes are possible but--

The squibs rule it out.

Sorry.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

The tritium came from: LBL Report

This LBL report covers the tritium, but it could be total B.S. I wonder why they were looking for it at all. I''ll go with the conventional CD argument.

http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1678&context=l...

Mini Nukes

I checked out the scholars but couldn't find the said articles. Personally I only am sure of three things when it comes to 9/11. #1 The official story is a joke. How anyone can still believe it is beyond my understanding. #2 The neocons and their NWO backers were behind the attacks. Read PNAC. #3 WTC7 was brought down by conventional controlled demolition. Everything else about what happened is pure speculation. When the truth does come out, and it will, I have a feeling there will be quite a few surprises. That is why I keep an open mind. I urge others to do the same.

The 9/11 peace prayer

Deep in the soul, below pain, below all the distractions of life, is a silence vast and grand - an infinite ocean of calm, which nothing can disrupt; Nature's own exceeding peace, which "passes understanding". That which we seek with passionate longing, here and there, upward and outward, we find at last within ourselves. The kingdom within! The indwelling God! are words whose sublime meaning we will never fathom.

maddog

fyi

CBS radio fired Don Imus today. free speech is dying. i too think that Imus is an asshole but he didnt deserve to be fired for an offensive comment. discuss amongst yourselves. ha.

Free speech

He can say whatever he wants in this country, and CBS can hire/fire whoever they want. Freedom of speech is not the same as the right to be on the radio and tv -- and to be paid, no less! Imus is an asshole.

CBS are still fucking

CBS are still fucking cowards and this will have a chilling effect. which is of course the point, Al Sharpton's agenda aside. for me this isnt about Imus though, its about the media and how they creat a story where there is none so they dont have to cover the REAL news. Imus said something stupid and offensive and it becomes the #1 news story for 4 days running and that doesnt piss you off at all? it enrages me. nevermind the war, Don Imus made an offensive remark, stop the fucking presses. the Don Imus story is just another excuse for the media NOT to do its real job and investigate. think Duke rape case,missing girl in Aruba etc., stories that dont have any effect on the average americans life. thats what the Don Imus story is, just another excuse for the media to sit on its hands.

just wondering, but did you

just wondering, but did you ever get my reply from your e-mail from a few days ago?

Yes, I did!

Thanks.

And if this has a chilling effect on people who call smart, talented athletes "nappy-headed hos" then I'm all for it. They need to be chilled. Just because you have the freedom to say something doesn't mean you should say something. Or, you can go ahead and say it and get fired. :)

we are just not gonna agree

we are just not gonna agree on this one.

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. Voltaire

Okay, now watch...

Chris and I are going to agree to disagree about something we both think is very important and about which we both have strong feelings, without a flame war.

3,2,1...

I disagree about the

I disagree about the disagreement, which I take it was disagreed upon, in which case I'll agree to disagree.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Now I'm confused...

wasn't the disagreement agreed upon?

I do have to agree with cass on this one. This is not a free speech issue, it's a respect issue.

ok, but do you and cass

ok, but do you and cass really think that the chilling effect will only be on those that have racist and sexist views like Imus? or will it extend to people with controversial political views(think Rosie and 9/11) as well? i think i know the answer to that one. this is SO a free speech issue, you just have to understand this is bigger than Imus. personally, it was enough for me that Imus was exposed as the ignorant assshole he is. his firing doesnt just effect him though and thats a damn shame. look for the fairness doctrine to be passed in congress now with the help of this Imus bullshit. do you really want that? by the way, remember when Rosie made racist comments about the asian comunity a few months back? she said "ching chong ching chong" when trying to show what an asian sounds like. now casseia and Big D, do you think that she should have been fired for that? because i sure as hell dont. her apology was enough for me.

Hold on a minute while I suit up

sorry!

i wasnt flaming you! im just passionate!

Frankly, I was amazed that Imus got as much flak as he did.

It's true that I don't think Rosie should have been fired for her bad imitation of an imaginary Asian language -- her apology was enough. To explain why I think it was a good thing that Imus *was* fired has to take into account the ideas of "institutional" racism and sexism -- when Imus said what he said, he had a few hundred years of oppression of black people in the US and a couple of thousand (or however you want to count it) of denigration of women's sexuality to back him up and give extra weight to his words. I do hear what you're saying and I respect your take on it, Chris.

in my opinion, Imus got as

in my opinion, Imus got as much flak as he did precisely because this isnt about what he said as much as its about attacking free speech. thats the larger agenda here in my opinion. the media has an interest in cracking down on free speech, it makes their job easier. i totally agree that racism and sexism in the media is a problem and i regularly speak out about both but to me thats not what the media cares about here and their motives just simply couldnt be that pure. G.E., Newscorp and the rest would like nothing more than for the government(and the angry mob being fooled into squashing free speech) to make their jobs easier. that said, im sorry if i come off as hostile, im just very passionate about this and all media issues. you know your one of my favorite posters :-)

Chris -

I don't see a great media purge happening anytime soon.

Rosie's recent comments are simply political comments, much different than the ignorant, racist and sexist remarks made by Mr. Imus.

Now if Rosie were to call the Asian women on the NYU debate team "slant-eyed ho's" she would rightly be shown the door. I don't think she's likely to say anything that stupid, do you?

9/11 Truth does not fail or succeed on what any celebrities do or say or don't do or don't say. The people are winning this in the streets, every day.

Now, I'm going out to put up flyers for 9/11: The Myth and the Reality which we're showing in Berkeley tomorrow night.

Be well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

its not about a "great media

its not about a "great media purge". it doesnt happen like that but we are moving in that direction. i agree that her comments were different(the 9/11 and Iran hostage ones) but not everyone would. thats reality and this is indeed a slippery slope. and when you have the 5 or so companies controlling the bulk of the media that most americans are exposed to start throwing bodies over the wall it sends a message to those like Rosie(who altruist has pointed out has stayed silent as of late) and others and it has a chilling effect on more than just racist and sexist talk. they cant take free speech overnight, i never claimed that, but they most certaintly want to take it and will try to take it. it will be disguised as clamping down on "hate speech". again, at what point do 9/11 truth type comments become "hate speech"?

Okay -- I have a new perspective.

There's a rumor (which sounds pretty far fetched) that Imus made some kind of threat that he was going to go all 9/11 Truthy -- and thus he had to be dealt with. This was a very effective way to deal with him, if in fact "dealt with" is what he was. Also, as someone pointed out below, I think, this was NUTHIN' compared to Glenn Beck and Wiener Savage and what they do everyday. So I'm starting to think the hullabaloo was engineered.

The Rosie situation creeps me out in the extreme.

Anyway, I was totally joking with the flame suit stuff -- you know I like ya!

in todays consolidated media

in todays consolidated media climate nothing is as it seems and many "major news stories" are manufactured(no offense to the girl who got killed in Aruba, but people get killed and go missing every day and they dont get the wall to wall coverage that she did. why? it was a diversion.) again, im not sticking up for Imus but this story is bigger than him and as usual the media isnt telling the real story(and isnt showing its true motivation in making it the biggest story right now). its not in their interest. anyway, where did you hear the Imus/9-11 rumor? thats weird. and i figured you were just joking with the flame suit :-)

Yeah -- I'm coming around on this, only a little singed...

A link to this story came in an email from a guy on my local list who is an incredible source of complete bullshit. The site itself is embarassing to even look at. So my question is -- is there any third-party confirmation of this conversation between Imus and Tim Russert?

Scroll down...

yeah, sounds like pure

yeah, sounds like pure speculation but still an interesting article that makes some good points. sure is an ugly website though,haha.

not to say i told you so.......

and im not! but take a look at how they are already trying to compare/merge Imus' racist/sexist comments with Rosie and Bill Maher's political comments. this is what i was afraid of. it begins.....:

Huckabee: If Imus gets fired, Rosie O'Donnell and Bill Maher should be too
By DAN GEARINO, Courier Des Moines Bureau
JOHNSTON --- Republican presidential contender Mike Huckabee said Friday that if Don Imus' comments are offensive enough to get him fired, then many other media personalities should go too, including Rosie O'Donnell and Bill Maher.
"If Imus is going to get fired, then there's a lot of other people that need to go out the door. Rosie (O'Donnell) has probably got to go. Bill Maher has to go. Gosh, half of talk radio and television has to go," Huckabee said.
http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2007/04/13/news/breaking_news/doc461f...

flame war with you? never

flame war with you? never that,haha. besides, we both agree that Don Imus is an asshole.

damn, and I just got the popcorn ready.

anybody want some? It's buttered.
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interns < internets

IMUS probably just got hie retirement bonus

for planting this bomb against free speech

I agree that the joke was in very poor taste and that he's not very good at appologizing but this really is an issue of free speech and if we are going to fire people if people do not agree with what they say or how they present it then we are facing a very serious dilema.

Eventually we will eliminate all honest commentary from our airwaves and then we will be lost in a world of delusion because we will never hear the voices we may need to hear to keep us on the right path. Sometimes the things we need to hear are not always the most pleasant. Remember that.

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Together in Truth!

well put.

"Sometimes the things we need to hear are not always the most pleasant. Remember that."

in this line of activism i know that all too well. i cant tell you how many times ive been called conspiracy wacko, traitor or worse for my "unpleasant" views on 9/11.

If you criticize the regime, make a mistake and you'll pay....

An excerpt from todays waynemadsenreport on this topic:

"..... the demise of Imus point(s) to yet another possible dirty trick by the GOP. Imus, like Howard Stern, is off the public airwaves, maybe permanently, while Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Michael (Weiner) Savage, and other right-wing shills continue to use the public airwaves to spout neo-con imbued hate talk -- material that makes Imus' insensitive comedy bits appear lame in comparison. The neocons are already demanding that Rosie O'Donnell follow Imus and Stern off the public airwaves. This entire matter is beginning to look like another Karl Rove dirty trick..... "

Rosie seems to have been gagged...not word one on the View since she returned and many fewer featured questions on her blog dealing with 9/11.