Visibility Action April 11th

San Diego 9/11 Questions Meetup Group's visibility actions on April 11th, 2007.
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We were empowered at the amount of support we were getting from passing drivers, it was such an amazing and eventful day!

hmmmm

looks like someones giving sibel edmonds a run for her money...

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Thank you.

Thank you for taking such an outstanding position, and putting it out there for people to see.

e

are you saying my sister is

zombie bill hicks, are you saying my sister is more good looking than sibel edmonds?

hmmm

with all due respect, yes. And ms. edmonds is a hottie. a 9/11 hottie.

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ms edmonds

is smoking hot

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Rrrrrr

She's Hot! and Smart!

In God I Trust, All Others Bring Data

It's really inspiring to see

It's really inspiring to see people do this and know that there are other people out there that want the truth to come out.

I will do this eventually but I would be afraid if someone came up to me (news people or anyone) because I'm not good at explaining things.

s1e9a8n5 -

You don't have to explain "things." Just ask questions, and there are thousands of questions that need answers.

All these unanswered questions clearly show the need for new investigations and THAT is really all you need to explain.

What made you question the government myth of 9/11?

I hope that you and yours are well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Don't be afraid...

I'm a big big big big wuss myself. I personally don't know if I have the cajones to stand on the street corner holding sings like they were, but it was me and 2 other people that hung those signs up over the highway. We were in and out in 10 minutes, and that was our first run.

Next 11th, our goal is to make 8 signs, posting them on each side of 4 overpasses, and we don't expect to spend more than 5 minutes per sign.

And I can't exaggerate how great it felt. I haven't been able to wipe this goofy grin off my face since. I highly reccomend it.

Freeway blogging is mad fun, eh?

I've put up over 100 signs so far and have yet to get hassled. I think it's more trouble than it's worth for the cops and CHP (I'm in norCal). CalTrans just comes by and takes them down, sometimes in 5 minutes, sometimes in 5 hours, some have even been up for 5 days.

If you have the time and inclination, do some flyering for the national boycott which runs from April 15 to the 22nd. I've put up about 50 posters for it in four towns so far and will do some freeway signs this weekend to kick it off. We need to do cross promotions to win over the "peace movement" (We all know that the 9/11 Truth movement is the real peace movement).

Keep up the great work. San Diego must be a very interesting place to do 9/11 Truth outreach. I hope to get down your way later this year and would love to meet with you all.

I hope that you and yours are well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

:)

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Awesome!

Hooray!

I can only repeat myself: bunnies for 9/11 truth! .-)

If they can get people to like consumerism, they certainly can get people to like the truth. Say it isn't so!

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you

you got that right!

I know.

I mean...it's universally accepted that sex sells. Then again, it's universally accepted that money makes the world go round, but people still refrain from going where that leads, strangely.

America in this sense is a paradox, anyway: On the surface, there's this almost puritanical chastity -- the greatest form of perversion according to Oscar Wilde, and I agree -- and below, there's the world's largest porn industry, spring break, silicone valleys, and all that. The masterful cultivation of doublethink.

There's really nothing wrong with sex nor being honest about it. There's something wrong with violence and being dishonest about it -- and yet, that is far from being taboo in the US. So drop the pretense. Suck, Fuck, Cock, Cunt. See? Wasn't all that hard...

Peter,

here's some love from me! For your insights, not your ass, mind you. Sounds like you're in an excellent position to push bunnies for 9/11 truth. Have at it!
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"Bunnies"???

"Bunnies"?????
"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

lots of sex starved horny

lots of sex starved horny nerds behind a computer screen really know how to make a woman feel comfortable in the 9/11 truth movement.

i guess i expected a little more courtesy to my sister on this page. im a little more than slightly embarrassed at some of the responses to the pictures on this thread.

hmmm

dont be embarrassed, you got good genes in that family. you're not a bad looking guy either, but you know, its the female of the species i tend to focus on...
either way, good job w/ the activism. you're sending a powerful message, and people all over thank you.
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Jeez.

You know, it was among my intentions to provoke -- right along with calling it as I see it. Provocation can be very helpful to allow for reconsideration of established thought -- especially truthers should know that.

I expected some indignation -- shows the provocation worked -- and I'm not even offended by being called "sex starved horny nerd" in response. You know why that is? Because no one can make you feel inferior without your consent -- that includes you, me, and your sister Abby.

Ask yourself why you felt embarassed. It is this very impulse that I'm trying to expose as the idiocy it is, here. As far as I can tell, there have been only well-intentioned compliments going on. As these were given within a context of men and women, both of which are naturally sexual beings among other things, there of course is an element of sexual innuendo, subject to individual interpretation. If that offends you, I know some monasteries I could point you to -- they produce good brew.

Or you could consider what I'm saying, understand that compliments are not the opposite of courtesy, and that mere remarks on appearance have no implications on appraisal of character, intellect, or actions. And then you might get over yourselves and enjoy being handsome, intelligent and upright at the same time. I know I do. Kay?
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hmmm

Bruce, I am not offended by compliments. This caught me off guard:

"Sounds like you're in an excellent position to push bunnies for 9/11 truth. Have at it!"

First of all, Peter is not pushing "bunnies" for 9/11 truth. I am the organizer of our meetup group here, and I am just sad that you keep saying that I am good marketing and that sex sells. I just thought you missed the point of what we were doing. If I were standing out there with doilies on my nipples or in a bikini I would expect that kind of mentality.

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Let me explain

this comment was in direct response (yet not directly attached) to this comment by Peter:

These catcalls remind me though abby, we should definitely put together that video idea with all the hot 9/11 truth chicks in bikini's. Joanne and all her hooter friends aren't exactly shy in front of a camera. Couple drinks, some body paint, john conner on a megaphone, wait, is this a dream? San diego 9/11 truth.. get into it.

It was not in any way related to yourself. Neither did I say you were good marketing (neither am I saying you're not). FFS, have I been declared supreme representative of the male gender here? My powers of cognition are performing well, and I did not miss the point of what you were doing -- it appears you falsely assumed my comments were a complete reflection of my perception, though. To clear this up once and for all: I appreciate what you're doing, and would say you look good doing it. Alright? Happy? Can we lay this tiresome tirade to rest anytime soon?

:|
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This is a general comment on this sub thread--

not nessecarily dirrected at you, B1337(BTW--sorta sounds secret agent-y ;-)

The problem video-hoax refers to--women being made to feel more comfortable--is that it misses the point. Which is that women AS A GROUP do not get enough practice "mixing it up" or fighting verbally. (or physically, but that's another post) And on the Internet that is where the action IS at. Not to say this is a fight, but if one is practiced at verbal combat, one's less likely to be caught flat footed when apparent weirdness rears it's head.

Not only are women not very practiced at verbal combat--but when sex wanders by, they're often stuck in a defensive default--internalizing that when sex comes up, they are AUTOMATICALLY the passive actor. This is really just lack of practice with throwing shite back.

So, maybe I haven't helped prepare the lads for this problem--I'm ALWAYS the hero in MY story and I telegraph it--but I don't think "making women comfortable " is the answer. 911activism is a war zone--even on-line. Expect to step into shite, have it thrown at one, and learn to throw it back without hesitation. Even with allies one has to assert boundries(I won't mention names). This is a skill--IF this applies to anyone reading this, make it their busines to learn it.

But while one's doing that, perhaps some guidlines if one's not up to sparring:

Someone says something flirty/sexual and you're not comfortable--just say so: "I know you don't mean offense, but I'm not comfortable with that sort of thing." BE CLEAR. And if they don't stop, don't argue--GO TO THE MODERATORS.

You say something flirty/sexual to someone and they don't like it? Say something like this: "Sorry, no offense meant--and now that you've told me you're not comfortable, I'll stop." And do it.

Unless it's a troll--then ALL bets are off. ;-)

It is our responsibility to develop the skills we need in this war zone of 911activism. It is ALSO our responsibility to back off when told to.
And God knows the last thing we need are the disinfo prats(and you lot know whom I mean) spreading rumors about 911Blogger harassing female Truthers--yada, yada, yada. I spend WAY too much time with these gits(my own fault--they're SO entertaining), and I'm here to tell you lot NOTHING is sacred with them.

We need to get and keep our house in order--they'll invent plenty of ammo without us giving them any.

Well, that's me--and my .02.

Cheers, all.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

wow

Everyone is going waaaaay too far with this. I am tough skinned believe me. I WAS NOT AND AM NOT OFFENDED BY ANYTHING. I was thrown off guard by ONE comment which Bruce already clarified he was responding to something totally different. Can we just let it go please.

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Letting it go ;-)

But some do need reminding about what can be a liability on-line.

And perhaps Jenny's time with the trolls has turned her into a paranoid obsesive--it wouldn't be the first time!

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Everyone would be well served...

... plinking with their verbal .22s at passing trolls. You'll need the practice, because the bigger guns will need every man and woman to take a turn.

This is most definitely a War Zone. It might not feel too 'real' because it's all deceptively "harmless" 1s and 0s in virtual-space... but it's a war zone non-the-less, dear people.

We fight here first, in words and links... because we've CHOSEN to. We know instinctively that if we fail... darkness comes. If we only half succeed here, we'll have saved much blood before we are forced to the streets to clean the rest of the battle up, but we'll be the victors either way.

If we only half succeed here in virtual words, we're well served by the warm-up as we take our bloodless word-fight to the streets, the coffee shops, grocery checkout lines and capital steps. Our keyboards, pens, pencils and spoken words are honest-to-God TRUE weapons most awesome and powerful, just beyond our full comprehension.

Those who've recently steeped forward to do battle against bad ideas.... know that many are with you, and we all need each other.

Know that among us, we have an extraordinary spectrum of talents, skills, heart and love. Know that among us, we enjoy the range and accuracy of the greatest artillery.... imagination, creativity, vision... and a desire for survival and liberty just now rubbing its eyes awake.

I tell you NOTHING CAN STOP a fire like this that burns so deep, and reaches so high.

Give me your war-cry.... bellow it across the battlefield... shake those bastard fucks in their bones till they shit their pants and piss fright like they never imagined possible.

The Law of Unintended Consequences, is to reach out with a long arm... and rip the lies clean out of their throats.

you got that right...

"I tell you NOTHING CAN STOP a fire like this that burns so deep, and reaches so high."

you got that right. I feel so passionately about this movement, and so optimistic that it can change the world for the better, that if there was anything I was put on this earth to sacrifice myself for, it would be to expose and eradicate the corruption and evil that has infiltrated our government. If we fight together, we can win.

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Word!

I would just like to add that the corruption reaches way beyond the US government. Globalization is happening, and it is surpassing economics by far. The eternal struggle of good vs evil is now upon our global society, and it's about more than the future of America -- it's about the future of mankind.

There is nothing that could be more worth fighting for, and we will prevail, if we only truly want to. Time to once again quote Erin:

"Actually, we won before this began.

All we've had to figure out, was whether or not we wanted it."

And that, my friends, is the truth, right there. Think about it, and let it sink in. It is entirely our choice, and the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

PS: And in the spirit of this turbulent thread, I hereby award you the title of "battle bunny" -- that is if you don't mind ;-)
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WORD !

You got that right, brother and sister!

NOTHING can stop us EXCEPT OURSELVES.

I'll share a foxhole with any of you anytime, anywhere.

Love is a verb, let's get busy!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

secret agent-y

Actually, my moniker is but an expression of latent geekiness, recognizable only to the initiated. It is derived from the supreme silliness of 1337speak let loose upon the immortal name of the grand master of martial arts. As such, it represents both contemporary internet-savvy currents and the universal principles (READ THIS!) refined by and adhered to by true martial artists.

Quite excellent, if I may say so.
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great day

I thought it would be scary to be out with signs but I soon realized that everyone driving by was fully supporting us... it was truly incredible.

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

the worm is turning

the worm is turning niggaz!@!@!@!

Great Job!

Awesome work ! I really love the banners. 9/11 truth ends all wars is such a strong message . I hope the people in the peace movement see it. Keep up the good work. Oh and just outta curiousity ya'll live in San Diego right? Well where the hell was Mark Dice? Why wasn't he taking action? I hope he doesn't think he's to cool.\ "

We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace

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Me April 11th 2007

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Great job Abby...

I would like to do this with you guys next time.

Off topic: regarding the Bamboo Lounge meetup that I attended; was it just me or did you feel that the guy who was sitting next to me (the guy with the glasses) was kind of creepy? After hearing his story of how he came to the truth, I felt things he said didn't add up. He claims he started questioning things when Bush was standing on the rubble pile with the firefighters and bullhorn. I asked him a few questions about some things he should know if he has been looking into this for any amount of time. I'm talking about basic stuff most in the movement should know about but he seemed clueless. I don't mean to sound paranoid, but he had a "One Hour Photo" kind of vibe to him with that 1000 yard stare. I am stearing clear of him. Am I being too paranoid?

P.S. Do you know what his name is on the Meetup site?

i think you should probably

i think you should probably only share your paranoia with members of sd911 truth in private. talking about someone you suspect of being an agent on a public forum is probably not the best way to bring the subject up.

Point taken...

although I didn't mean I suspect him of being an "agent". I never accuse people of this because it can be maddening. I see your point though and after I re-read my post, I can see how you came to that conclussion. Now, too bad I can't delete it.

dont take what i said

dont take what i said harshly, i learned from my own mistakes and have probably burned a lot of bridges by talking shit about people in the movement on 911blogger.com.

T-Bone -

We are the greatest threat to the existing power structure so you can expect regular visits by various members of law enforcement working undercover. I suspect we had one at one of our Oakland meetings about two months ago. He came, he said very little and observed the entire meeting.

My advice is to be polite and pay attention to everything they say and do. If they are from law enforcement, they will probably just observe and report back to their superiors at this time. However, if anyone says anything promoting violence or illegal activities that should be an immediate tip-off as this is classic infiltration and cointelpro. If you need to, make audio or video recordings of meetings to have an objective, unimpeachable record of what took place.

Don't be paranoid, just be aware. Be friendly and engaging, draw them out, let them expose themselves for who they are. In my work on the street I have had long conversations with a few guys I'm 95% sure are working for law enforcement. If I have no one else around to talk to I use these encounters to sharpen my debating skills and test their knowledge and probe their rhetorical tactics. Call it opposition research.

I always assume that everything I say or do is being observed and or recorded and I don't worry about it. We need to be open in our pursuit of the truth. We can stand in the light, they can't.

The means creates the end.

Fear and paranoia will not take us anywhere we want to be.

We are all brothers and sisters, please keep us posted.

I hope that you and yours are well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Always good to have you or a few friends take pics or video...

Like everyone did on the 5th anniversary in New York - worked very well in deterring the shills, they hate the limelight.

You're not being paranoid, just realistic...

I would not be suprised in the slightest if you get a few "non-truthers" trying to infiltrate or disrupt.

The positive thing, is that if events are happening simultaneously all over the place it makes any infiltration logistics much more difficult.

A great job getting it out there.

Best wishes to all

Seeing 911 Truth signs in

Seeing 911 Truth signs in public, freeway blogger style, is truly my favorite thing. Wat to go guys. My family and I thank you from the bottom of our hearts for making our country safer by calling out criminals - no matter who they are!

of course

Thanks for everyone's support! If we all do our part we will win. We already are.....

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Excellent...

Hmmmm... I wonder what the drivers are looking at. Videohoax's sister, or the sign.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

hey man, thats just smart

hey man, thats just smart marketing. :-)

i am

no marketing, i am just a hardcore 911 truther!

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Is that you...

Abby?


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

yes

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

yowza!

A hardcore truther and a stone fox.

A REAL woman.

Way to go Abby and SAN DIEGO, you ALL ROCK!

9/11 TRUTH ROCKS!

Take good care of brothers KJ and h this weekend. Wish I was making the trip, but I'll be down your way soon enough.

We are pushing to the tipping point, brothers and sisters, keep it up!

This will be won in the streets, not on television.

I love you all very much.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

haha

what abby gets all the love and my glamorous butt-shot nothing? Maybe it's because i'm putting up the smallest 9/11 truth sign ever...

These catcalls remind me though abby, we should definitely put together that video idea with all the hot 9/11 truth chicks in bikini's. Joanne and all her hooter friends aren't exactly shy in front of a camera. Couple drinks, some body paint, john conner on a megaphone, wait, is this a dream? San diego 9/11 truth.. get into it.

:P

oh and it was really encouraging how many people were honking for us. A few people flipped us off but not many. Somehow though, even the birds were invigorating, perhaps because it confirmed we were making an impact. One guy driving an old battered RV yelled something out and when I looked at him he made that circular motion around his ear, the one that says "you're crazy." I laughed and yelled back, "hey, you're the one driving that!" and he looked startled. Then as he drove off, I yelled, "who do you think sent the American-made Anthrax?" game, set, match.

oh

and I almost forgot but on the way home Abby and I drove past a local news channel interviewing a resident so we drove past holding an "9/11 = inside job" sign out the window and the reporter stopped the interview and said "what is your problem?" I responded, "you're not covering the truth about 9/11 is my problem" and she said, "yes we do" and I said "no, you don't." Then she cops a most serious attitude and says "you don't even know who I am, what's my name?" And Abby yells out "We would know who you were if you were doing your job and covering 9/11." Then we yelled in unison "Do your JOB!!" and drove off.

awesome!

much love from me.
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ha

I will help with the idea, but there is no way in hell I am participating in degrading myself by selling 9/11 truth through sex or my body. I think it's missing the point.

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

There are cultures

that feel it is necessary to deny the human impulse of sexuality. Their women wear burqas.
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Then you can...

Make a video of you naked or in a speedo talking about 9/11 and post it on youtube, I am sure it will get lots of views. I for one feel that I shouldn't have to be in a bikini talking about 9/11 to get people's attention to this movement.

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Did I say you should?

I was repeating the bunny-meme that emerged when the Easter Bunny came out in support of 9/11 Truth recently. Some others complimented your looks. Then all hell broke loose. And now I'm being accused of objectifying and commanding people to get undressed? WTF?

Between black and white, there are infinite shades of grey.
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I laughed so hard at this I scared the cat.

I think this is a GREAT idea, bruce! Really! Do it for the movement! I'd say go with the speedo, though -- a little mystery is a good thing.

:)

Sorry Bruce! I misunderstood... but I would like to see you in a speedo regardless, so you should make it anyways...

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

I nominate RT for inclusion in this series as well.

We've already seen him in a horse mask -- so inquiring minds want to know...

Well, guess that's settled, then

So, you want to see me in a speedo? Fine, but I'm a gentleman -- ladies first. :P
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Heh

Well, ladies -- I'll take and share pictures of my works in due time, and I certainly won't act all offended should people compliment my looks.

PS: It's a HUGE mystery :D
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lol

Wasn't ever offended.... I think it's cute my bro stuck up for me. :)

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Yeye

lots of sex starved horny nerdines behind a computer screen really know how to make a man feel comfortable in the 9/11 truth movement.

*thumbs nose*
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heh

I had a short, intense argument with a good friend last night on this topic. I insisted that there would be hot babes of both sexes at the Bikini Car Wash for 9/11 Truth but she wouldn't have any of it. She said it was objectification. I disagreed. I really don't know...

Were you at the conference in Arizona?

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Can't we all just get

Can't we all just get along??? The bottom line here is the passion for this crusade, exposing our government's biggest lie. I am forever indebted to my two children, videohoax and Abby, for my epiphany a few years ago. They are my heroes, willing to go to great lengths for this cause (yes, that's Abby hanging over a San Diego freeway!). Kudos to them and to everyone else willing to put themselves "out there" on a daily basis all the while deflecting the criticism or flak that may come their way.

Indeed

You must be a very cool mom to have such awesome kids.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

I'm sure...

You are very proud of your kids.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

love you too

Thanks! One of our members said she met you at the AZ conference and that you are interested in mobilizing the west coast 9/11 groups. Keep me updated on this!

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Thank you Abby...

And videohoax for doing this...

Can ya feel it? The eleventh of every month action is going to continue to grow and grow, and I think we are at the point where they can no longer stop us from getting the truth out. In other words, our numbers are starting to show.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

yes its the same abby that

yes its the same abby that bitch slapped susan davis

im sure you are, and thank

im sure you are, and thank you for your activism, but its still good marketing :-)

"but its still good

"but its still good marketing :-)"

i understand why you would feel like pointing the fact that my sister is good looking out, but all these comments just give me the grim reminder of why girls in general do not frequent internet message boards. When a girl enters one they get the internet equivalent of a bunch of construction workers whistling at them. its kind of immature

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oh jesus dude, im sorry.

oh jesus dude, im sorry. grow the fuck up. whos really immature here? you and your sister both could probably lighten up. i'll never compliment a female on this board ever again ok pops?

"ok pops?"

"ok pops?"

who shit in your cereal today?
i will try to direct my complaints about why internet forums are usually sausage fests elsewhere.

haha, im sorry man, that was

haha, im sorry man, that was weak. but in fairness all i said was that your sister was marketable, hardly a big deal. i was just responding to Jon Gold's harmless comment about her early in the thread.

and just for the record, if

and just for the record, if any of you have seen me before and want to say that i would be good for marketing, feel free, i wont be offended.

you should

Post a picture of yourself so we can determine this....
:)

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

trust me, im ugly :-)

trust me, im ugly :-)

Great signage!

You rock!!!!!

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