Debunking 9/11 Debunking by DRG Update

I'm not trying to implicate Amazon in some kind of 9/11 coverup conspiracy, but I just wanted to post an update of David Ray Griffin's new book and the delays when ordering on

I had preordered the book about 3 weeks before it came out. It was supposed to ship out on the 31st of March or thereabouts. Then I got an update telling me that it was delayed until mid-June. I was very sad as DRG is coming to Seattle on May 18th and was hoping to have it in time for that event.

When a delay like this occurs you can "okay" the delay or cancel your order. I contemplated canceling my order to see if I could pick it up earlier from a local bookstore.

A few days later I saw a post here claiming that someone else had this problem, they emailed Amazon and then received an email saying that there order was back on track and to be shipped out the next day.

I decided to follow suit and emailed customer service at I sent the email on Thursday or Friday. I just received confirmation that my order has shipped today.

Now, I don't know if it was because I sent the email or because I approved the order. Did anyone else follow up with Amazon as was suggested in a blog entry last week and have an experience they'd like to share?

I'm just glad the book is finally on its way.

Previous Blog

Anyone have a link to the previous blog devoted to this topic??


to test out the theory i

to test out the theory i have NOT emailed amazon yet.. it hasnt been mailed yet either AFIAK..

i dont think it is any conspiracy though.. probably just low stock?

no doubt

and i said in my original post that people slammed me in ratings for that I only complained because I wanted them to admit that they were getting so many orders they were having trouble filling them. Instead they send me a boilerplate "we're sorry you're unhappy please don't hate us" email and within hours shipped out my books. Like I said--conspiracy or shady business practice, what seems clear is that they are not going by first come first served. Talked to a friend today who also pre-ordered and has gotten nothing.


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mine was the complaint post

and I did get all five copies I ordered today. the mailman left before I could give him one--he's a truther and has helped me distribute DVDs.

He told me the other day he put up some of the 9/11 color postcards I gave him in his apartment building and a couple of tough neighbors asked "who the hell put this up here" and he said "ME".

Oh yeah.


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Received today!

I ordered two copies.... I got THREE?!?!

Should have bought 5

Checking credit card statement....
Together in Truth!

you're trying to muddy the waters JJ!

there can't be a shortage AND a glut.... admit it--you ordered THREE. you're so in on this with Amazon :)

great comment on Willie's talk in Peoria BTW...


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More muck to wade through

Editorial Reviews from

John V. Whitbeck,:
author of The World According to Whitbeck
After reading David Ray Griffin's previous books on the subject, I was over 90% convinced that 9/11 was an inside job. Now, after reading Debunking 9/11 Debunking, I am, I regret to say, 100% convinced.

Howard Zinn:
Considering how the 9-ll tragedy has been used by the Bush administration to propel us into immoral wars again and again, I believe that David Ray Griffin's provocative questions about 9-ll deserve to be investigated and addressed.

Waiting to see this book on the New York Times Best Seller List

Together in Truth!


I just checked the status of my order: It said it shipped April 19. I've been out of town, so it should be there when I get home in a few days.

Check out the customer reviews at amazon. There are now two reviews. The most recent review is just amazing, I'm going to submit it as a blog.

Great News!

Glad that people have started to receive them...

I'm really glad I saw your blog, Real Truther or I may have been waiting til June.

i'm glad, thanks for reporting back your experience!

it's all about communicating and sharing. we won't always be 100% right but I believe this way we will never be 100% wrong...


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Amazon screwing me over again!

Just tried to post this review. It comes back and says I'm not allowed because I've aready reviewed another version of it. I have done no such thing (obviosuly since this is the only version.)

"Oops! Only one review per customer per product set is allowed."

I'm hoping it just got submitted twice somehow. We'll see Amazon--we'll see...

Your review was not accepted because we only allow each customer to write one review of each product set. An example of a product set is the collection of all editions of a book: hardcover, paperback, and audiobook. If you'd like, you can edit your existing review.

One problem inherent in attempting to discern the truth about what we've been told about 9/11 is the sheer volume of work aavailable on the subject now.

There have been countless books written on the subject of 9/11, both in support of the official conspiracy theory (the one about 19 fanatical young arab muslims) and the various alternative theories that essentially argue that the official conspiracy theory in invalid. This fact of course means that to come to one's own conclusions would seem at first to require inordinate amounts of time and effort to sift through the worthwhile and the worthless.

Whereas poorly researched and written books can be found in support of both basic positions (the official story and the "official story is wrong") books of the caliber of Prof. Griffin's latest are rare indeed. Not only is it apparent from the crisp and clear writing that Prof. Griffin's is a formidable intellect, it is abundatly clear from his grasp of all of the important aspects of the story that he has done not just his homework but that of everyone else in the class, just to be thorough.

To keep this review brief, I won't summarize as others no doubt will his main points--the book is a rebuttal to 4 separate official and "semi-official" works that were presented to the public in August 2006 presumably to buttress the official story in advance of the peaking interest surrounding the 5th anniversary of the tragic crimes. All are exposed as shoddy attempts to fool uncritical readers--those who are mainly looking to have their prior conclusions (that the Bush admin has told the entire truth about those events) confirmed.

The magic of Griffin's work is that he does not destroy these myths in an angry or histrionic way in the manner of a pro-wrestler like an Alex Jones (sensationalist "journalistic showman" with a considerable following). He is as sober and lucid as you would expect a Christian theologian--a thinking man of morals if you will--to be.

By all means pick up a copy (I recommend used) of the works he critiques so as to confirm his findings. Without Precedent by Kean and Hamilton, and Debunking 9/11 Myths by Popular Mechanics are the books, then there is a Vanity Fair article and the NIST's "answers to frequently asked questions" online.

Understand that we are living in times of rampant deception (no surprise to those following the news in the last five years) and that it's not actually as difficult as it would seem to separate the facts from the fanciful. What may surprise you is just how many facts there are that contradict the official story we've been told. The revelations are eye-opening in a manner both shocking and bracing--you will after reading Griffin's book have a renewed sense of positive outrage and energy that comes with having lies exposed and criminality laid bare and vulnerable before you. You will understand the world in a way you had not previously, and surprisingly perhaps in a way that will empower you to be a full participant in the growing movement to empower the citizen with the knowledge necessary to finally begin fighting back against the destructive corruption gripping our democracy.

Bravo, Prof. Griffin! Your country thanks you.


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