Brzezinski gets confronted (video)

Cool Hand Luke from confronts Zbigniew Brzezinski.

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i wish i had balls as big as

i wish i had balls as big as luke

No kidding.

That right there is the stuff of freedom. That man is a hero!

"Take the tape!" Fucking fascists!

I honestly cannot believe this, I'm at a loss.

Good Job Luke!!

"Take the tape"

Here's your tape...

No bullhorn, no violence, great job.

You are a true Patriot Luke. Unlike the Sheep with thumbs that yelled you down.

Luke Rudkowski on Truth Revolution Radio

Luke Rudkowski on Truth Revolution Radio - April 23 2007

We broke the Zbig story on this show yo

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

This is my favorite 9/11 truth video so far.

Exciting, well edited, dramatic, intelligent and I am a sucker for that song.

Luke for President!

my favorite as well. Luke for president!

From the Brzezinski files

Just the other day I found a particularly chilling passage from a 1968 publication by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Various sources give its title as "The Technotronic Age" or "The Technotronic Era". it's quoted in "Mind Control, World Control" by Jim Keith - which I have no opinion on yet, since I've only skimmed it. I have to post screenshots, but do check it out:





nitpick away(dont we all?)

nitpick away(dont we all?) but it is never a bad thing for an elitist scumbag like this to get called out in public, polite or not.


These people KILL people for breakfast and you are worried about calling him a scumbag.

I have a lot more things I would like to call him than scumbag.

Stop your primpy pussified nit-picking. The boy did good and you're just jealous that you're not in his shoes or had the hoo-haas to do what he did.

This is a time for tough talk. These people deserve to be hung for their crimes against all of us.

They need to know there is seriousness to our efforts.

How is this not voted down?

What is going on here? Have people read the rules? Do people understand the way in which ratings are supposed to work?

This is scary.

Flip - can you clarify your statement

Are you saying you believe the article should be "driven down" in points?

If so why?

P.S. - Thought I'd ask b4 blasting away at you


The article got a 10 from me. Luke's got muy muchos juevos grandes. I mean him no disrespect. In fact, I have a great deal of respect for him, and I laughed my ass off at the end.

However, I do think he could have been more productive. I wasn't there, and it's hard to tell exactly what was going on once people started yelling. I wish, while sitting behind my keyboard 3000 miles away, that he could have avoided the confrontational ending, and allowed the Briz to answer. Was he there to make a scene? Or to get answers, and encourage debate?

Don't get me wrong, making a scene has its benefits, and will no doubt leave impressions on everyone who was there. I would just prefer a calmer approach, with a better attempt at encouraging a discussion. The people who asked Kerry those questions from this weekend did a perfect job of this. Personally, I would have been too nervous to say a word, so I understand my perspective will lack credibility to people here.

I met Luke in NYC on 9/11/06, and he is a true asset to the movement. I would in no way want to discourage him from continuing his work. That doesn't mean we should hesitate to steer him in the right direction if we see him get off the path, if only by the slightest bit.

The comment to which I was replying, the one I replied to, is out of line, and, according to the rules of this site, is the type of comment that should be voted down.

From the rules:
“Do not post entries that are abusive, offensive, contain profane or racist material, or resort to attacking other users.”
“Post useful information and commentary, not ad-hominem attacks or insults.”

“Users should use the vote up/down widget to vote down comments which go against the basic guidelines listed above.”

Comments should not be voted down because you disagree with the comment. I'm not a regular here, but it appears to me that the regulars vote down every post with which they don't agree.

It is very disappointing to me, an outsider, to see some of the more intelligent, and well-stated comments here get voted down simply because they go against the group consensus. We shouldn't be stifling dissent so quickly, and without analysis.

Here we have a comment titled: “AWWWW SHHHUUUTTT UPPPPP”
The comment says: “Stop your primpy pussified nit-picking.”

And it gets 13 up votes?

Meanwhile, well stated comments like this, get a bunch of down votes?

That's crazy!
What the hell is going on here?

Flip -

That was just silly Flip.

"allowing Brez to answer?" - LMAO!
You could wait 1,000 years and NEVER get an answer from Brez. Of course not.

Luke did EXACTLY the right thing. Do you think the founding Fathers of this country should have waited for King George to "answer" them? - LOL

Flip - you are weak.

And your love of 'RULES' is atypical of the mindset that has destroyed this country ... "There ought to be a law - to force others to think like me".

Now - Shut and Sitdown! ha!

I appreciate your help

You make my point better than I can.

Flip, you know what is going on.

It's called group think, herd mentality. 9/11 Truth is quickly becoming a cult-like experience. If you don't tow the will not be respectfully disagreed with.

Read BADMACHINE'S reploy titled "Blown Opportunity" and then read the 'nit picking' comments.

It is beyond me how people endorse such imature behavior in such un-negotiable terms. They aren't even considering the view that this action could have been done better.

Yelling at the guy to "answer the question!" then before he can speak the guy says "scum! scum!".

Now I'm not against Luke and his action here. But 9/11 Bloggers will percieve that I am. If I say something constructive like "you could have done better by being a little more calm"...just look at the irrational responses you recieve that are beyond even negotiating their beliefs.

It's cult-like.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

well said

I think we should give you the username "Critical Thinker".

At the very least, someone should take it away from this other fellow.


Do you actually believe that Brezinski would have answered anything?

You totally missed the point of what Luke did.

The idea is to make these cockroaches stay under the rocks they live and come out anymore.

Corner everyone of them. They aren't about the answer anything - they cannot - for it would convict them.

So don't even give 'em the chance to start their damned lying. Cut to the quick immediatly.

Luke has SET A SPARK of bravery that is SERIOUSLY lacking ..from the likes of folks like you. Wimps.

Go back and read the Declaration of Independance - do you not see the proper tone required to deliver to these scumbags?

There is no "politeness" or "etiquite" to be used with these creatures - given the chance they would eat your young ....

Get some brass dude.


"9/11 Truth is quickly becoming a cult-like experience"

Sorry dude, that's just bullshit.

How does your estimation of a herd mentality on this blog translate into the sweeping appraisal above?

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

nail you on head hit

It has absolutely become very cult-like here. There is a clique of Alex Jones NWO-heads who, iif they are sincere, nonetheless seem not to understand what is going to help and what is going to hurt the cause.

Getting up and asking Brezinski a tough question then giving him a chance to answer, or if as some say he would have refused to answer then just that would have said so much more than the scene of "scum! New World Order! scum!" People in that audience who may have been on the fence will now probably take at least another year before opening their minds to ideas that they perceive are held by this type of hooligan. Now I know what's coming--how DARE you insinuate "Luke" is a hooligan! It's not me, kids--it's everyone who doesn't know the truth who sees that video who will think so, whether or not it is true.

The closer we get to the truth the more it seems there is no tolerance of questioning either people's motives, methods or simply their opinions. I do think though that some people may have a different idea than me on what the voting system is for and how it should work. The more people vote, whether it is up or down, the better the value of the information. The 1-10 rating system is pointless because it will always devolve into people giving ones to posts they disagree with and tens to those they like. Some people will not even read the post and vote based on who posted it. With dynamics like that at work, the more people voting the better the results (as in more accurately reflecting what most people probably think) so everyone should vote as often and on as many posts as possible. Votes that get hidden unfairly should be voted up, even if you don't agree with them, if you think they do not merit being hidden.

Finally it is clear that some users here are more equal than others and can get away with behavior that others cannot, and who are protected by sanctioning those who attack them. I seriously wonder, for example, if LUCUS' overly confrontational rant has earned him an email from site admin like my comment to one of the admin's friends to hold their breath (as opposed to "don't hold your breath") did. Probably not is my guess.

Cult-like behavior includes a (often hidden) hierarchy of insiderness, intolerance of dissent from the accepted groupthink, and pressure to enforce agreement and discourage "divisiveness".

These are quite the opposite of what a forum dedicated to principles of free speech and truth should display.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


I agree with and appreciate many

of the points you just made.

There are some good points...

So what got you involved in 911 activism, if I may ask?

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

I also agree ...

... with the many points you make about how people conduct themselves on here.

I think Luke made the best use of the limited situation at

hand--a top NWO scumbag preaching to a group of likeminded Zionists in NYC.

(btw, Didn't you hear Zignew tell Luke to "Shut-up" BEFORE Luke correctly called him scum? Also, didn't you hear the Zioninsts in the audiance trying to stop Luke from asking questions?)

(No subject)

This comment has so many votes...sad. Sad.

The uncompromising attitude that you express towards a person that makes a reasonable, thoughtful, and contsructive suggestion for luke is alarming.

You think this is tough talk?

Shouting at someone to "ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!" Then before they answer saying "YOU ARE SCUM YOU ARE SCUM!!!!"

YOu think that is tough talk? If so, you are a fool, and I mean that in the most respectful 'look in the mirror' sort of way.

Before you think I'm a Luke hater or a pussified....think again. I see this as a posiive action that can help activist evaluage their methods.

It's like a child riding a bike for the first time. They get better as they go. But your comments would have us stuck in this state of immature, shout down's that will be taken serious by a handful of those 'in the known' about 9/11.

THen you say:

"They need to know there is seriousness to our efforst"

NO fucking shit! We found something we agree on!

Work together people.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

calm down, it has so many

calm down, it has so many down votes because he was lecturing us for all you know.


What does that mean?

Ok, jpass. Go find Brzezinki's speaking schedual, travel to one

of his bullshit sessions, somehow get into the audiance, and then stand up & ask the piece a crap some serious 9/11 questions & make him look guilty. Until you do all that, please STFU.

Lucas: You're Like A Dull, Blunt Object

All show and no go.

Real creative.

When a boldfaced liar like Brzezinski is bullshitting to an

audience, I'd say asking questions & then heckling him when he starts giving a bullshit answer is very effective! (If more people had stood up to Hitler, he might never have become der Fuhrer, you jellyfish.)

Expect PLENTY heckling of Ghouliani, McCain, Gonzalez, Wolfie-witz, Rice, Perl, etc., at all their upcoming events! (Or is this what your hoping to prevent by claiming it will "never advance the cause.")

Stick to clever questions, not name calling

I think embarrasing answers on tape would have been more effective than calling him scum.

I appreciate the bravery, though.

Oh you too..

Carbon you think to much.

did i read that right?

You're bashing someone for thinking too much?

9/11 blogger is in trouble.

well, thinking too much can

well, thinking too much can be a problem.. like a computer stuck processing info when it should be doing something else..

but i would agree with carbon that a cleaner, more witty interaction would be better - although, would it just be for our sake only? would 911 truthers be the only ones who see it and got a kick out of it?

I mean, at least the kid stirred some emotions, and if this were to happen wherever brzenski (and others) went.. then maybe the general audience would at least get fed up enough to directly deal with 9/11 instead of sticking their heads in the sand .. thus finding out that the easy-out fairy tale they lived in was so wrong..

ok, now i'm thinking too much.. :)

"although, would it just be

"although, would it just be for our sake only?"

No, the action that Luke took was geared towards US! A more calm & collective approach would have been geared towards those who he is asking to 'investigate' things like the Bilderbergs and the NWO!.

Think about are watching this guy speak and some guy stands up and is heated calling him scum, saying he's responsible for 9/11.

Luke alienated himself when he started screaming scum, and saying Brezynski did 9/11.

This was not directed or created to pursuade people to investigate 9/11 or Brezinski. Seems more likely it's directed towards 9/11 Truth crowd...a pep-rally of sorts.

I hope people don't follow the example. Not that I don't think Luke is courageous, I do. I just disagree that his method is effective at pursuading others to investigate 9/11 or Brezynski.

9/11 Truthers are the only ones who see this action as curagous. I mean there might be those who are anti-brezynski but not supportive of 9/11 that might support this sort of action..., but you aren't gaining any converts with this action.

That is my opinion.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

Civil language gathers empathy

I met Luke in Chicago last June, and I am amazed at his bravery and dedication to the movement. I have nothing but the deepest respect for him.

However, jpass is right saying that Luke alienated himself. He got the whole crowd against him from the 'scum' comment-- even if a few were against him to begin with, by the end people seemed turned very turned off.

I am completely for confronting the neo-cons-- but bullying them can have the opposite effect than we intend, by making them look like the victims of irrational name-calling.

A better way would be a poignant question that exposes their falsehoods or involvement in some way. I know it is hard to stay cool, especially when emotions get involved. But it is important that the people who listen empathize with you rather than the neo-con.

I'm very sorry carbon

When Brzezinski' supporters start to react it's not when Luke called this scum a scum it happened when Luke started talking about Bildenburg and stuff. Luke was not with the gang...

You can't hide a lie for long. Truth shall come out.

What the F*ck have you done..

You know i can't stand it when people try to knock another man's effort. You should be kissing Luke's *ss right now . He has done more for this movement then anyone YOU know . Instead of sitting on your computer critizing REAL ACTION you should make yourself useful. These people are scum and by the way "new world order " is a phrase they coined not Luke. Draw new sKeptics? Are you serious? The point was to let Brzezinski know they will not win.
Oh and chill with the caps man we know what you meant.
Mike in Florida....

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace



I've flown from one end of the country to the other for this cause and shelled out a few thousand dollars on top of that.

I was front row and center for the Alex Jones thing in LA and right next to Alex Jones bullhorning Ground Zero on 9/11/2006.

I was at Ground Zero at 3am on 9/11/2006 - the 1st 9/11 Truther there - after walking all the way from the Empire State building in the middle of the night and was one of about 5 people doing battle with Paul Issac and his flag waving crew that morning before anyone else showed up.

Don't give me lectures.

I was born in NYC and visited the WTC numerous times, probably before you were born. I grew up in Manhattan seeing the towers out of an apartment window half of my life.

I'd love to call Zbig a lot of things.

But when the world is watching, there are better ways to burn the guy than calling him names in a way that brings the whole room to his defense.







Show "OH AND MIKE IN FLORIDA ..." by Badmachine

That was'nt me..

That was'nt me dumb dumb . It was LUCAS .
Learn to read, and get outta your chest!

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace

Like i said ...

What have you done? So you sat in on a conferance in L.A and went to N.Y last year for the 5th. Kudos on the N.Y trip, but what have you done man? Do you confront people ? Do you take action? Do you Organize? Do realize the seriousness of what we are up against?
By the way i was standing behind you on the wall at ground zero when Alex and the rest bullhorned. Check out the pics. Listen i'm not trying to belittle you i'm just trying to make a point as to the fact that you should not critize another man's effort. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and play coach, but it's a different scene when your actually playing the game.
Oh and growing up in Manhatten has jack sh*t to do with anything.I grew up in Staten Island looking over at the towers just like you. Read my 9/11 blog on my myspace if you wanna exchange war stories.
Mike in Florida.....

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace


"but what have you done man? Do you confront people ? Do you take action? Do you Organize? Read my 9/11 blog on my myspace"

Do I confront people? Can you read? I just got finished telling you I and a few others were taking crap from Paul Issac and his flag waving goon squad at GZ on 9/11/2006 long before any Truthers even showed. Where were you? Sleeping?

Everyone and their Grandmother has a MySpace page. So what?

I've had 6 short video docs posted to Alex Jones' various websites that have all been viewed 100,000+ times.

I was one of the 50 original members of (before Fetzer turned them upside down) and still have a website linked there.

I discovered the following image that is now used by Prof. Steve Jones in his Power Point lectures.


You say youre not trying to belittle anyone yet thats all you do.

You sure youre from NY? You can't even spell Manhattan.

And what you call criticism of Luke is simply my point of view on a moment that might have been handled better. But I'd say Luke earned the right to unload on Zbig.

But the world wasn't watching. It was Zignew talking to a group

of rich, upper-East side Zionists in Manhattan.

This is the cult think i was talking about...

Constructive criticism is not an attack. If you read, you will notice that everyone provideing CONSTRUCIVE SUGGESTIONS also provide praise for Luke!!!!

Cult think will have you glaze right pass that though.

I've experienced the same attitutude when I expressed my skepticism towards the Omar Said Shekh and the Pakistani ISI story

I was even equated to a person who 'doesn't support the 9/11 Families' because I was questioning something from their movie and did not agree that the ISI/ OMar Said Sheihk story was based in hard facts.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

i agree with your point

i agree with your point about constructive criticism but calling people cult members because they dont agree with you or your approach isnt gonna get you very far around here.

That's not his point.

He's not saying that because he disagrees with people. He says that because there is a group of people here that have zero tolerance for other's opinions. He is not evaluating their opinion. He is describing their lack of respect for the opinion of others.

You got to be kidding me....

You are a bonafide cult member. Congrats!

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

By the way..

Luke if you see this , great job man ! I heard the same bullsh*t from people about the Amy Goodman thing. It's easy to sit at home on the computer and type about whatcha coulda done.

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace

love it

anyone who offers criticism is invariably accused of never doing anything themselves.

I love being told by people who have no idea who I am or what I do that THEY have done MORE than I could EVER hope to do. So self-assured with so little cause!

In fact I've easily spent by now several thousand dollars on truth stuff. Just paid over $200 for large mounted copies of some great information posters that another user linked to pdfs of and spent over ten hours on the weekend teaching people about the facts. Another hundred dollars on deception dollars and cards from and 6 copies of debunking 9/11 debunking three of which I've already given away, including to one person who had not heard any of the arguments for controlled demolition and was very interested to learn more.

Daily I ignore any potential risk to my job by posting truth materials on campus, writing emails to professors, deans, and even the president of Harvard. I have left materials outside of a lecture given weekly by a senior adviser to the 9/11 commission. I have distributed unanswered questions at a talk by Philip Zelikow (this was almost 2 years ago--I was in touch with Kyle Hence and Nick Levis about it but no one but me showed up. I have asked Doug Feith at a talk why Americans should trust him--BEFORE the contents of the Inspector General's report on his pre war intel cooking were published (I had a copy of the extensively redacted-blacked out-report for effect so the audience could see) and after he rambled through an answer to my question I held up a sign calluing him a war criminal which a university cop yanked from my hands. I did not leave the talk.

I could go on but what's the point? Because I think Luke needs to learn to apply his energy in more intelligent and productive ways I will just be told to shut up and kiss his ass because I "don't do anything".

What a joke. This site IS in deep trouble, in my (worthless, because I don nothing) opinion.

And oh yeah, Casseia and I contributed more than anyone else to the server fund $70 each. 20% of the total for the whole thing. And the guy who has sent her intimidating and frankly disturbing messages violates an admin request not to post on my blogs and MY blog gets locked as a result.

I think 911blogger has some splainin to do--before I start doing some of my own.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

After I get banned find me at - Harvard Task Force


This site needs RT's voice

Some of his posts are among the most dynamic and important that this site has seen.


For the record I like most others admire Luke's passion and courage shown in the video above. I would even go so far as to say that I appreciate the fact that the crowd might have been naturally hostile and not worth trying too hard to convince--but then again what Luke did in that case would have amounted to a psy-op to make our adversaries nervous and defensive, and we can certainly argue the cost/benefit in that light.

I also think the video was edited in a very cool way and give him props for inspiring other people to truth more aggressively and with less fear. So all in all I would give the whole thing a B+ or more.

I of course take issue with the idea that we should be blaming a "new world order cult" for 9/11. And what made me comment here was not Luke's work but the attitude of some of the commenters here especially those that trashed people like jpass and flip who had good points to make. Some of the participants on this site seem to suffer from the soft bigotry of low expectations, which makes them raise their hackles any time someone doesn't show proper "deference" to one of their heroes, when all we are doing is offering analysis and criticism.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Luke was interupted during his question

I'll have to watch it again, but if I'm not mistaken, Luke was interupted first during his questioning. He had every right to get in their faces. How DARE they try to shout Luke down for not asking all the "acceptable" questions. All of those people there probably claim to be open-minded and tolerant, but look what happens when their empire is brought under scrutiny. They get ugly REAL fast.

That was just BRILLIANT !!!!!!

I emailed that video to many of my family and friends.


They can't explain the Mineta Testimony:

Davin Coburn of Popular Mechanics takes beating from Charles Goyette:

I agree. If your going to

I agree. If your going to ask someone a question, even if that someone is total scum, at the very least let them give some response. As soon as you start the name calling you turn everyone in the audience onto his side and against you. He probably enjoyed the fact that someone stood up and called him what he was and nobody agreed. If anything this is a victory for that dumb foreigner.

But it was too late

They were already heckling Luke as he was finishing his question, and soon after they wanted his camera. Luke is a hero.

we should not try to convince the skeptics...

we don't need them anyway... at this point and with all the evidence out there, if you don't see it is because you don't want to.... i think we have convinced all we need.... too bad that for this movement to take off, america needs to get hit really hard with an economy crisis. then you'll see the people on the streets...

why not now? damn it!!! i just made $1500 in 3 days of trading with my 401k an i just started a few months ago...

Am I reading this correctly?

We should not try to convert the skeptics?

911 Blogger is in trouble.

I think what they mean about

I think what they mean about this particular audience is that THEY are the other elites who have been supporting Brezinski and the Neocons. The Neocons get their support from someone. I would think that most of the people who attended that talk ARE familiar with Brezinski and his attitude toward the rest of us and the world.

There's not going to be any convincing of the people who have supported this shit from the beginning with an understanding of Brezinski's arguments.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)



Hey orden11, maybe you are right?

WHy don't we just start our own fuckin' cult uh? We can all move down to Guana and restart the People's Temple in Jonestown.

Who's on the bus?

This thread is god damn frightening.

Can't Stop 9/11 F Tever

Alex Jonestown

has a nice ring...


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Hey RT

Listening to Alex Jones show live right now, it really was a powerhouse first hour, like so many times before. Pick it up at the refeed at internet the next 21 hours.
How can one not just love the guy, with his sincerity and the raw info you get? He is not perfect, like he says himself, but where is a better alternative?

I've seen you kicking at Alex in oher treads here also, so could you please explain your view, since you are such a prominent member at the blog. And please don't take this as an attack at you in any way, I'm interested in your say.

oh god, please dont get him

oh god, please dont get him started.........

David Ray Griffin is a better alternative

But he has more important things to do, like giving well reasoned and eloquent lectures focusing on the most important issues surrounding 9/11.

Now if we're talking radio personalities, the lack of competition is not a sign of AJ's quality, just the lack of alternatives that you yourself acknowledge. Is it my fault that people like Bill Maher and Jon Stewart get shows and honest truthseekers get ignored? Nope. I'm just not going to lower my standards because the bar is set so low that AJ seems like a paragon of truth and virtue by comparison.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


@ Badmachine:

It may not be YOUR style-- but he did it just FINE. Now YOU shut the fuck up.

at the very least...

they know were coming after them.

beautiful. the bulk of the

beautiful. the bulk of the people in the audience are clearly scum as well. uninformed hag says-"oh sit down".

Sweet. Ziggy's part of the


Ziggy's part of the "slightly-more-sane" faction of US imperialism, as opposed to "the crazies" who currently occupy the White House; he's fine with 99% of the atrocities committed by Western governments but is frightened (rightly) of the catatstrophic effects the impending attack on Iran will have for American hegemony worldwide, so temporarily broke ranks not so long ago. As you can see in the video, however, he supports the official story of 911 100%, as do all elites.

Took guts to confront that maniac. I would have worded things slightly differently but a bold move overall. Ziggy's got more blood on his hands than MacBeth -- all the oceans in the world could not wash them clean. I like the way you put together the vid too.

Long live the resistance!

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

so right. i thought it was

so right. i thought it was pretty interesting(and telling) when Chertoff took a shot at Brzezinski recently and tried to paint him as a conspiracy theorist.

Yeah that was interesting.

Yeah that was interesting. Must be strange from the neocon point of view because much of PNAC was lifted from Ziggy's Grand Chessboard.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

"beautiful. the bulk of the

"beautiful. the bulk of the people in the audience are clearly scum as well. uninformed hag says-"oh sit down"."


Did someone spike the kook-aide at 9/11 Blogger? You are casting judements on the 'bulk of the audiene' with one swooping stroke of your brush!

I consider this no different as when the hillbilly next door says that...

"the bulk of those niggers are on welfare sucking up the free money".

Am I alone when I ask...

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON AT 911 BLOGGER.COM?????????????????????????

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

That audience was there of

That audience was there of their own free will. The environmental circumstances in no way forced them into that room to listen to Brezinski unlike African Americans who were once slaves and been shat upon for the longest time. Many of them have resorted to welfare to deal with the poor hand they've been dealt.

I heard a lot of hissing and booing and not any "Let him speak, answer his question" before he started name calling. This does not make the entire audience bad BUT if there were any decent individuals in there that wanted to hear the answers to Luke's question(s) they sure as shit did not make their opinion known! How does it go..."evil will triumph if good men do not speak up..."

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)

That hag

may be fully informed about Brezinski. She did attend his speech of her own free will and was not criticizing him. She may be one of the elites that view the rest of us including Luke as cattle.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)


Luke is the god damn man. If someone wants to take a different tactic fine. But you gotta respect Luke's as well. I liked his shirt at the end too.

"If you are not Outraged! You aren't paying Attention!"

Peace Luke. And thanks for showing us how its done. By yourself none the less. Great work.



I can't even start to tell you how great that was. I can't even put it into words!

I am not typically a person who is at a loss for words!

It's about time I step up my efforts as well!

P.S. Those rent a cops have no right! You should sue them...seriously you should sue them for twisting your knee running away.

Hit them where it hurts the most...their wallet!

Confront them any way you can.

Sometimes, anger needs a voice. A harsh voice. No minds would have been changed in that auditorium. They were indeed, all... nwo plutocrat scum. The video should be on the net. Call them all the damn names you can. Play the nice argumentation as you go. For all the lives ZB is responsible for having ended, he deserves no less.

"There are none so hoplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." (Goethe)

Much admiration...

for your courage, Luke.

Totally awesome.

Stay safe.

Balls of steel

structural steel
damn. great job Luke. lmao.

Seeing Zbigniew Brzezinski called scum in public, PRICELESS!

Physics/Science/Mathematics do not lie, only people do.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB


Great Job sir, i wish i was with you.

Just once I'd like to see

Just once I'd like to see the audience erupt into applause when one of these scumbags is confronted. But then, what kind of freak would go to a Brzezinski lecture? Let's go gawk at the mass murderer! I'd rather listen to Charles Manson (actually, Manson's music wasn't bad, believe it or not;) I'd really hate to hear what Ziggy sounds like with a guitar.

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ziggys music

I'm sure all Ziggy can compose are songs using Shoenbergs 12 tone system, because he is cold as stone.

brzezinski could realy play the role of ...

Dracula... man he really looks evil, although, it was kinda interesting how he somehow supposedly doesn't agree with the current war and believes is just a deviation from the "tru" war on terror.

It's only because one

It's only because one portion of the elites have over stretched all of them and put all of them at risk. He's still a piece of shit.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)

ostensible diversity masking an actual uniformity

of course ZB likes the war in Iraq. and "the war against terror". the talking points ay that there have to be some conspirators who disagree with the Iraq War. This is the Jon Stewart position. Well of course we had to go into afghanistan. But the Iraq war is BS because Saddam had nothing to do with al Qaeda and had no WMD. ZB was a Carter man--don';t you think he's going to be pitching the Hillary Obama view on all this? Then we have Chertoff pretending ZB is going soft. Have the fascists argue amongst themselves and you create a false dichotomy. Basically it's good elite/Zionist/you name it---bad elite/Zionist/you name it. Left Right. Blue Red. Peace Plan or total war. Just al Qaeda or ALL the dirty Muslim Arabs. France or Britain. CNN or this crap:

The intention is to present us with options--ALL of them crap. ALL of them beholden to the wretched system in place to divide and conquer the cattle--the people who you don't want marrying your kids. All manner of interests have been subsumed by this disgusting system that manifests itself as rule by bullshit everywhere it rears its head, and everywhere where people don't wake up before it's too late. Don't blame one group--blame EVERY F*ING PERSON who stands back and watches wondering only "how do I get my piece of the pie."

Follow the money, follow the selfishness, follow the evil, follow the lies, follow the corruption. And when you're done, if you don't have at least one crook pegged of every race, religion, party, and nationality on earth, KEEP LOOKING.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Jon Stewart is a comedian.

Jon Stewart is a comedian. hes on Comedy Central. fuck his position, thats not why i watch his show. im really not expecting a comedian to break 9/11 in the mainstream anytime soon.

I think the point...

Is that Jon Stewart has been positioned as the 'lone leftist speaking out' and, considering THAT, it is deplorable that he is silent on 9/11 Truth.

He is a comedian but you can't deny the angle or the debate that he has framed and, in some cases, the debate his audience accepts as their own.

Personally, I think that willful ignorance is the only way someone like Jon Stewart can go on year after year without putting in an effort to look at 9/11 Truth, in seriousness or in comedy. One he does it for the firt few times he will realize that 9/11 was indeed an inside job.

How he has not done the researh and come to this conclusion means his network will not allow it and he's willfully denying the situation so he can continue to draw a paycheck.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

hes the "lone leftist

hes the "lone leftist speaking out" huh? then why is he still on Comedy Central? do you think thats an ideal venue to get into something as serious as 9/11? im not making excuses, i wish he would speak out but im not an idiot and i can see what his job is. he is a COMEDIAN first. when CNN or NBC News or somebody hires him THEN i will expect him to do the medias job of covering things like 9/11. yes jpass, because we all know that 9/11 is a hilarious issue right? makes for good comedy huh? see my point at all?

Chris you're really making no sense

Jon Stewart's entire shtick involves covering news and such in a humorous way. He also came out with a political book--America. You think there's anything funny about the war, when he jokes about what a bunch of crimials Bush et al are? You're trying so hard not to see aren't you!

I guess we should just stare at real news people, the ones hired by CNN and NBC until they say something. Someone tell David Ray Griffin he's a THEOLOGY PROFESSOR for god's sake! (no pun intended)


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Not really.

Stewart covers the Iraq war....he's talked about things like partial birth fact...plitically...he's addressed every issue across the board...

Besides 9/11. That is why I don't watch the guy.

'Ziggy played guitar...'

Jamming good with Weird and Gilly
And the Spiders from Mars

--David Bowie, 1972


I got goosebumps watching this video. Luke is truely an American hero and patriot!

Very very inspirational,,,keep up the fight..more and more of us are joining you Luke.

After watching this video a

After watching this video a second time I'm even more impressed. Luke actually expressed himself very well in the initial questioning and was right to harangue him thereafter; Ziggy was so pissed he actually said "sit down and shut up!" LOL<

This is some real guerilla media shit right here. Complete with a chase scene! Congrats Luke and keep up the good work.

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ZB getting a little angry:

"Will you please sit down and SHUT UP..."
Hahaha - and the CHASE!
WOW, totally awesome. Thank you for this, Luke!

This is just the right action against these super elitists "world chess players" at this point. Stir it up, make waves and noise, make the people attending these kinds of meetings and conferences uneasy. Like when Philip Zelikow got shaken up recently, several truthers spread out in the theater making chaos. Just beautiful.

One day

50 people will stand when questions are asked of these people

then 100

then 1,000

then these people will speak no more
Together in Truth!

This should be on the front

This should be on the front page. As important as it is to have intellectuals speak out on behalf of our cause, the real difference will be made by activism by regular people.

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Ziggy is speaking at the 92nd Street "Y" the YMWHA, Manhattan's

upper east side Young Men's and Young Women's Hebrew Association. Richard Perl, Kristol, & other NWO often speak to the wealthy Zionists who live in that area.

(BTW, who was that bitch who was yelling, "take his tape"? I guess that her idea of democracy in Israel or something.)

Ask a straight forward question...

I would like to see someone ask him a straight forward question about what he meant when he implied the Bush administration would attribute terrorists attacks to Iran as a pretext for war. Is he suggesting that the Bush administration would stage terrorists attacks or incite them to assess blame to Iran? Or merely falsely link them to "legitimate" attacks.

I guess an easier question would be, "In context with your speech to the Senate, has the U.S. ever staged terrorists attacks for political reasons?"

I do think what Luke did was awesome, however, I wish we could capture him on video replying to these huge implications he has made.

Show "In A Way Brzezinski Deserved it" by Brainster

Don't you have a tyrant to defend somewhere?

"In a way" Brzezinski deserved it.

Less than 18 hours to go...

BTW--I have an IP for you--if that will help one of you grow a spine...

If for some reason you're out of the loop--ask civilized worm; I had a very civil email exchange with him earlier.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Show "Hey, If You Solve The Mystery" by Brainster

You've got a couple of hours of amnesty

To check the IP you'll find in my blog at:

I am a little baffled, Pat--I thought you already knew who--or at least where-- the hoax "Pat" came from. OUR problem now is I need an appology from one of you debunks--for the reasons you've already read in my other blog.

Everyone elses time is up, though.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

And at last it happened--I'm a winner!

Thanks for my banning--as I said, it's preferable to the options:

Cheers also for revealing yourself to be a hypocritical, evil, little swine.

Course, we all kinda suspected...

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.


You have my admiration, Luke.

You know what really ties my stomach in knots when I watch videos like this? Not the absolute courage of the person such as Luke. No, it's the audience. I've seen at least four similar videos in which Truthers call out NWO scum, and in each case someone in the audience tells the Truther to "shut up," "sit down," "get out," or whatever. And it makes me imagine the boisterous horde of proto-fascist flag wavers who would happily enslave the other half of the country if a second 9/11-type event happened.

That sends chills up my spine.

And isn't it amazing how little the audience in this case knows about Brzezinski's actual beliefs?

The audience shares Brzezinski's actual beliefs

simuvac: See the earlier post about the YMWHA. These people come to cheer for Richard Perle and William Kristol. They are not middle American sheeple. They know exactly what they are supporting.

Show them the window, don't shine the light in their eyes.

Whatever happened at that speech was as brave as it was counterproductive. For every person who learns of the 9/11 movement, a new investigation is one step closer; but for every person who learns of it like this it will take that much more time to wear down their extra-extra resistance.

Peoples' introduction to this topic should be gentle, whether or not the "perpetrators" deserve the same treatment. When you come across "Ziggy" in an alley you might act differently then, but such bravado in front of an audience of people who have never heard the issues raised before will surely do more harm than good.

The questioning was on such a good track. It should have ended with "...the biggest false-flag terror attack 9/11". Period. Then let the man speak and if so incriminate himself. You cannot brand these people with fire, you must let them incinerate themselves.

Keep up the passion and the activism but don't forget where you were only a few years (or even months ago). My bet is few of you got into this because of some screaming lunatic, which is how someone in Luke's position would have appeared to me. I learned through the reasoned, concerned, and logical writings of Hoffman, DVG, and professor Jones.

Better next time to just ask questions. There will be time for more...the case is building.

I have no doubt that the people in that audience will remember "scumbag" not 9/11. That's unfortunate. People must be warmed by the fire of truth not scorched by it.


100 thank you's

I agree with you 100%. You did a better job explaining this than I ever could.

I'm sorry that so many people have and will vote your comment down just because they disagree with it.

Comments should not be voted down because you disagree with the comment.

he did answer the question,

after the dust up and it was what you would expect. bullshit. and if he only did what you say he should have its likely this would have been completely forgotten, both by us and the people in that room. look at the reaction of most of them, its rabid. they clearly trust this guy very much. he would have given some bullshit answer that those people would have accepted and that would have been it. instead we get one of the most notable "players" getting confronted like he should be. i think you are over-thinking this thing, the impact of this is much more lasting(and positive) than getting some weak answer from Brzezinski which the bulk of the people in that audience would have fallen for. they have in the past, why do you think it would be different this time? this is like the people who bashed the guys who confronted Kristol. same thing, if they would have asked politely the people in that room would have for the most part been happy with Kristol's answer and would have never thought about 9/11 again. instead we get a member of PNAC put on notice in public. that was beautiful and had a LASTING impact just like this did. DRG, Professor Jones and that type of approach are good in some circumstances and this type of approach is good in others. just my take.

You summed it up perfectly, Chris. Ziggy would've given some

double-talk b.s. response, his followers would've applauded him, and that would've been the end of it.

Criminals like Ziggy & his fans need to be shown that people are not going take any more of their NWO bullshit lying down!

The harm was not in the lack of an answer...


I see what you're saying, ZBig would have probably danced around a question anyway. Sure, that would be disappointing.

But what was accomplished instead? Rather than having an audience of well-educated, wealthy, powerful people being introduced to the notion of False Flag terrorism they learned to immediately associate its mention with "lunatic".

I grew up with friends who lived in those circles. They're neither "sheeple" (what a ridiculous term) or devils. They're just people with a different background, a different education, and different priorities. They are as open to change and reasoned argument as anyone else, it just takes more to get through.

Again, what happened there is not it.

The attitude that "we don't need these people" is about as absurd, overly optimistic and unpatriotic as any I've heard. We need those people as much as we need the thousands in Austin and Arkansas and San Francisco. Why? They're Americans. Why? They're humans. Why? Because they don't know any differently than you did 5 or 6 years ago (or less).


Reminds me of

Gypsy and Carol when they confronted the 9/11 comission. That's what it going to take. You got to get in their face. They are sub-human scum and should be treated as such. Job well done!


You guys can come to my house and eat steak FOREVER!

You have BALLS the kind of the Founding Fathers!

OMG! I'm so blown away - YOU ROCK YOU ROCK - OH MY GOD!

Yes - More of YOU YOU. I don't hold a candle to this - you've raised the bar of BRAVERY to a level unfathomable!


I loved every second of it

I loved every second of it !

Yes Luke is young, awaken and angry, I forgive him for being confrontational, he remained decent.

This was great, everybody in the audience will be talking about that incident and forget about the speech, hopefully start asking questions and investigate and maybe a few more souls have been saved ?

There is an old saying that

There is an old saying that you draw more flies with honey than vinegar.

Basically, the problem with the video is why even ask a question if you are just going to name call?

Please analyze the response. The crowd responded more than the person being called scum.

It would be more productive to cause doubt in the minds of his followers and thereby do away with his support.

As it ended, he and other NWO elites will be justified in thinking that we lower class uncontrollable animals need their leadership and dominance.

If we are to win over this NWO we need leaders. Leaders don't use emotional outbursts to achieve victory, but rather intelligence.

A person in control would have asked a question that would have been a statement and question that boxed him in and would instigated doubt in his followers.

Something like:

In your book you wrote in the 1990s you lay out a plan for taking control of Afaganistan and the oil fields between Afganistan and Russia, so why do you now critize the very people that have carried out your plan?


Leaders NEED emotions with

Leaders NEED emotions with intelligence. That's where EMPATHY comes from. Our current "leaders" have no empathy and plenty of intelligence, hence the predicament we're in. Cunning sociopaths run our country, plain and simple. Leaders need to be able to properly use emotions and personally I see no problem with what he did. He was rudely interrupted before any name calling. Listen to the video again. He was in total control until he was rudely harassed.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)

I would expect any one in

I would expect any one in his shoes to be confrontational when he was so rudely interrupted by the audience. He hadn't even said scum once and the sheep around him started their baying.

Play the clip again and listen carefully. You'll see his emotions were pushed by the noisy sheep. If they had kept on chewing their grass we could have had dracula in a wonderfully awkward position. Instead their noise drown him out pretty good. Silly sheep.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)

The point is to keep the

The point is to keep the crowd and all emotion out of it. People don't think when they are emotional. You want the crowd to think about what type of person he truely is.

Yes you want passion in leaders. But you don't want uncontrolled emotions.

The videographer should not have gotten emotional after the crowd got into it. It only made things worse and nothing productive came of it except reinforcing the crowds belief in ziggy.

Were our founding fathers infected with uncrontrollable emotions? I would say not for that only breeds dictatorship after dictatorship.

Is it even reasonable to

Is it even reasonable to think that the audience, who of their own free will, came out to see Brezinski talk, would respond in any positive manner what so ever? Cause and effect.

Luke was asking his question, which pissed many of them off, they responded by booing, their reaction amplified his emotions (wouldn't your adrenaline be pumping if you were going toe-to-toe with a sociopath who has encouraged the murder of your fellow country men to justify "greater goals"?) which lead to his name calling. His perfectly just question started that chain reaction. The crowd ALREADY had their mind made up about his question which is why they booed him before he could finish.

If someone already has their mind made up you might want to question why? Well their asses were sitting there listening to Piggy Brezinski which is a show of support UNLESS they were to question him also. The audience BY and large are our enemies. Helloooo anybody home McFly? Brezinski and the Neocons are getting there support from somewhere. Could it possibly be from members of an audience who freely decided to attend his speech and who booed someone asking a perfectly logical question before there was any name calling? Not everyone in this country is blind and brainwashed, there are those who are supporting the brainwashing and propaganda KNOWINGLY.

Hey,McFLy, your shoe lace is untied!

BTW dictatorships tend to be run by Sociopath's. Sociopaths lack empathy hence their psychopathy. Empathy comes from emotions.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)

Actually, the Founding Fathers probably would've taken Ziggy &

a short rope to the nearest tree limb.


You can tell Brzezinski is rattled out of his comfort zone.

Well done Luke!  These

Well done Luke!  These scumbags needs to be confronted everyday, everywhere they go. 

Don't like Luke's tactics?  Do it your own way, just DO IT!!!

Audience Just Dumbed Down, Not Scumbags.

Most of Zbigs audience are just victims of a lack of information, not scumbags.

They likely hear nothing but people like Hannity and O'Reilly and on and on.

Some folks unfortunately think that cr@pping on all those who they disagree with is the key to victory.

Once upon a time at the height of my political ignorance I thought the official 9/11 story was true, Iraq was behind 9/11, Saddam and Osama were buds and on and on.

And I rolled my eyes when I first heard about 9/11 Truth.

Then I stumbled upon some intelligently presented 9/11 Truth info and had my mind changed.

I can't blame Luke for blowing up on Zbig ... after all, one of the Inside Job perps was right in front of him.

But the Info Wars are like guerilla warfare ... stealing the enemies resources and using them against the enemy.

We must steal back the minds of Americans that have been hijacked by the media and turn those minds loose on the enemy.

Taking back the publics opinions is done through persuasion, not verbal abuse.

If a 9/11 Truther had called me a scumbag several years ago, my crossing to this side of the fence would have been delayed.

no sir, when you heckle and

no sir, when you heckle and yell "oh sit down" and YOU YOURSELF call a man who is asking important questions a "scumbag" as at least one woman on the tape did you are indeed scumbags. if you are paying to see a sociopathic murderer spread lies and push a disgusting agenda i personally feel that you are likely a scumbag. if your crossing to this side of the fence was delayed by hurt feelings then i think thats really more of a personal problem. this was a room full of people, not a national stage. hurting these few peoples feelings in front of a criminal they admire is exactly what was needed and did not hurt the cause of 9/11 truth in any way in my opinion. i for one will not make excuses like "they probably only watch Hannity" for these people. confronting them with the truth isnt always pretty and Luke did what he could and did it well. also, that "intelligently presented 9/11 info" that swayed you? thats great, that tactic worked for you. this tactic works for others. both tactics(confrontational or "intelligently presented") both have their merits.

Audience A Victim Of Info Wars

This audience was likely told that their guest was the Great Zbig Bryz, ex-national security advisor, Cold War hero, Conqueror Of The Soviets, etc.

I doubt any of them knew anything about how he and the CIA brainwashed Muslims in Afghanistan into combatting the Soviets in the 1980's to the tune of 1 million Afghan deaths, for the sake of strategic advantage.

We didn't get this far throwing F-bombs. We did it with the David Ray Griffins and Steve Jones' of the world (And the too numerous others to mention.)

And my guess is LCFC will pick apart the 9/11 myth carefully and not utilize 'bomb throwing' when it hits the street.

And they were likely under the delusion that Luke was one of those enemy loving 'LIBERALS' that the Neo-con media labels, who happen to have a differing point of view.

These Info Wars will be won with persistence and cunning, not name calling that enhances any divisions.

As the question was quashed,

As the question was quashed, the crowd cheered at Brzezinski's insistence that Rudkowski "sit down and shut up." The crowd yells back to Luke "You are scum."

yes, lets reason with THEM. they wouldnt just brush his question off and continue to trust what Ziggy said right? this had an impact. your tactic, in this case, probably would not have.

Great job Luke

I'll be out to march gz again with you folks in Sept. Everybody, make an attempt to be at gz on 9/11/07. Let's make it 10 times bigger than last year. Alex will lead the charge.......lololol.

No leaders!

We'll see you there, but we don't need Alex to lead anything. We're all perfectly capable of being leaders in our own right. :-D The spotlight needs to be on all of us.

David Mann All the

David Mann
All the discussion seems to be about style and tactics of the situation. I admire the courage of the confronter but the content was extremely weak. He might have focused on Brzezinski's comments in congress or else exposed some salient facts about 911 - putting him on the spot.All the stuff about "national sovereignty" is a vague abstraction and DISTRACTION.
No, it's not the pathetic U.N. or the New World Order (??) we need to fear but rather the Fascist U.S. ruling class (who always . push NATIONALISM). National Sovereignty ?? that and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee.
Overall this challenge was about as effective as the attack on Bill Krystal saying "your father was a trotskyite" - even it it were true - which it's not - can anyone even imagine a more pathetic, vacuous, critique of someone as vulnerable as Krystal.
Well, this is a diverse movement - we need to learn somethings and become more effective in these confrontations. Anything is better than silence.

Human-Deficient Brzezinski

Human-Deficient Brzezinski Exposed for 9/11 Culpability
Security Attempts to Seize Activist's Video Tape and Intimidate Free Speech During Oration by
'Grand' Architect and Trilateral Player Serving Agenda of Would-Be Global Landlords
We Are Change activist and 9/11 Truther Luke Rudkowski narrowly escaped from literal goons overseeing a Zbigniew Brzezinski speaking engagement. The brute force now closely guarding the establishment objected, it seems, to the unmasking question aimed at the former member of the Carter Administration, who was selected for public service-- along with the majority of that administration-- from the more private, but no less influential Trilateral Commission, founded by David Rockefeller.

Security not only tried to silence and remove the critical activist, it attempted to confiscate his video tape of the encounter by force, cornering Rudkowski into the position of running for escape after announcing that "9/11 was an inside job" and "national sovereignty will prevail" during his escorted departure.
Luke's limited opportunity to put forward a question to Brzezinski was wisely used in a quick, but articulate and carefully worded message that seeks to set-aside Brzezinski's layers of faux-legitimacy and address actual, relevant issues which actually affecting the real world-- peeling off deceptive and charming rhetoric in which the punch-drunk crowd readily indulged:

As the question was quashed, the crowd cheered at Brzezinski's insistence that Rudkowski "sit down and shut up." The crowd yells back to Luke "You are scum."

Rudkowski's attempt to bring accountability to Brzezinski's doorstep is not the vain act of demanding attention from notable civil servants, nor the pursuit of some mere messenger in New World Order false-flag terror. Brzezinski's penchant for designs of world architecture and provocateured re-mapping is well documented, primarily by the thoroughly-articulated visions of American primacy and geopolitical dominance penned by his own hand. He is a key tactician in the globalist system and his strategy is clearly laid out in his book, The Grand Chessboard.

His role in 9/11 itself is not directly established, yet statements of cold strategy reveal his callous attitude towards the worth of human life and its relevant price towards geostrategic goals:

"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor." (The Grand Chessboard pp 24-5)

"The pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being." (The Grand Chessboard p. 35)

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." (The Grand Chessboard p. 211)

Calling out such treasonous behavior is important in activism, for reasons only beginning with exposure. Willfully provocating war for strategic purposes does not fit within a gray world where the end-justifies the means; it is the regrettable case of unrestrained, elite madmen plotting and executing for world dominance and personnel profit.

Activist Luke Rudkowski was apt to meet the clear-headed and cynical approach of Brzezinski with well-read and cutting comments dissecting the real agendas guiding the smokescreen force of false-flag attacks and provocateured events that lie at the heart of the true enemy at hand.

It is important to meet as many of our "public servants" with questions about 9/11 Truth and demand their attention and attempt to harness their representative power to turn around the New World Order government-- which is riding away on the robust engine of American economic and military might.

More Brave Souls!

These cockroaches will have to hide under rocks - never to see the light of day again.

Here's ANOTHER brave man confronting PNAC's master Bill Kristol

... P.S. - Flip might find this offensive - suggest he not watch the video.

OMG Luke

You make me proud to be a American Thank you for the hard work you do to get the Truth out I have tears in my eyes that was just Great~



Wow Luke!!

I couldn't find a "contact us" on the We Are Change website. You are such a stud!!!! Oh my god!! I hope some day I get to meet you and shake your hand. You told Brezinsky what for!!! You are a hero.
Kevin in Seattle

We can do it! Remember, hope is the most important information we can convey! Let them be the fearmongers, we're the hopemongers!

So we ARE a bunch of nuts?

This approach is horrible. You prompted the crowd to turn against you, not Brez. You make us look like a pack of uneducated maniacs.

You could write down some serious, short questions and fire them off, rather than freaking out and yelling terms like "new world order" repeatedly.

There is no evidence linking Brez to 9/11. By accusing him, you gave him instant sympathy and demonized yourself.

It's difficult making people like that slip up, really difficult. But discrediting the entire movement and gloating about it is counterpruductive.

Sample questions:

Mr. B., you helped create the Mujahadeen, which became the modern Al Qaeda. Do you feel some responsibility for the 9/11 attacks that followed as a result of your policies?

Mr. B., you said that creating the Al Qaeda threat was insignificant compared to eliminating the Soviet threat. Do you feel the same after the horrific attacks of September 11th 2001?

Mr. B., you wrote in The Grand Chessboard that the next wars for global primacy would be in Central Asia. This same thinking was taken up by the Project for a New American Century who wore of the need for a "catastrophic and catalyzing event like a New Pearl Harbor." The 9/11 attacks were that New Pearl Harbor, and they did indeed initiate wars in Central Asia. Was the Bush regime motivated to allow a new Pearl Harbor to take place expressly for this outcome?

Dig in and think about how to present your message, and elicit meaningful responses.

70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog

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Damn this is getting

Damn this is getting repetitive. LISTEN to the video carefully. Lucas was interrupted before he EVEN finished his question and he hadn't name called at all. See my previous posts on this thread. Brezinski has written about doping up the masses for easier control, what more do you need to show you he supports all the bullshit our government is doing?

LISTEN carefully and you'll see Lucas was interrupted first. Get it straight before bitching.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)

sadly Whitey, whenever

sadly Whitey, whenever anyone does something brave like this and confronts a criminal you always have people who say he should have been "more polite". yes, the crowd was clearly hostile and were starting to boo and hiss before the word scumbag came out of Luke's mouth. he saw where it was going and turned it up a notch. good for him.

Perhaps it's repetitive because you're hard of hearing.


"...9/11. How do we know , how do the American people know that 9/11 wasn't staged, wasn't engineered by YOU, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission,(CROWD ERUPTS WITH DISRUPTION HERE) the CFR, and Bilderberg group, sir?"

"Lucas was interrupted before he EVEN finished his question and he hadn't name called at all."

He basically accused the speaker of being a mass murderer and treasonous traitor on 9/11. He also implicated other groups and persons without the slightest bit of evidence they were involved. What kind of reaction do you expect?

I'm all for having "balls."

Steve-o from Jackass has balls.

Do you want him leading your political movement?

The other side can take this video. Put it on Fox and CNN, and say: "See? They're wild conspiracy theorists who just accuse anyone and everyone of being behind 9/11. Where's the evidence Brez. had anything to do with it?"

This is self-immolation.

Choose your words wisely.

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Nuff respect to Luke!

Nuff respect to Luke!

I sense a lot of anger and frustration in this thread.

Where is this coming from?

Could it be that many of us are venting the righteous anger that we feel toward those who perpetrated 9/11 at one another?

Could it be that the frustratingly slow pace at which the truth of 9/11 is spreading and the prospect of another 9/11 type event is creating an undue amount of anxiety and stress in many of us?

Please, my brothers and sisters, we still have a long struggle ahead of us and we will not achieve our goals if we tear into each other like some unruly mob.

Reading this thread makes me profoundly sad.

I met Luke at the Arizona Conference. He is an intelligent, committed, sincere, passionate and brave young man. However, like all of the rest of us, he is not perfect and I'm sure he'd be the first one to agree with that.

Luke had the courage to confront Dr. Brzezinski and we should celebrate him for that.

Now, would I have done things differently? Would you? Of course we would as we are all different and approach things in our own unique way. Luke is Luke and he did what he thought was best at the time and I can accept that at face value. Upon reflection, I would hope that the rest of you can, as well.

That said, we should be able to deconstruct what happened in a civil and supportive way without attacking each other and/or becoming defensive. This is how we learn, evolve and improve our tactics; as individuals and collectively. If we are unable to temper our biases and unwilling to set aside our egos, then we are doomed to fail and we deserve to fail.

I don't think any of us are in this movement to fail.

I do have some questions, however. Why was Luke there alone? In all of NYC wasn't there at least one other truther that could've handled the camera? If just two others had joined him, one could've filmed and another could've stood in support of him and demanded that Dr. Brzezinski answer the question. With a little more planning a few more from the NYC group could've passed out fliers to the audience as they exited the auditorium and reinforced the message that he was trying to communicate.

So please, my brothers and sisters, let's learn what we can from this event AND our interaction in this thread and MOVE FORWARD in a positive and productive way.

We all get angry and feel frustrated at times, let's remember why we have come together and stay focused on our collective goals.

I love you all very much.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Some of us ...

have been doing this stuff for 30 years! We warned of the CFR, the Build-a-burgers, the Fed Res , the reck-a-fella's , the brezinski's and so many more.

Long before 911 came about.

And after all these years - all the pounding and screaming and complaining about people not waking up to the truth - sometimes we enjoy the "thrashing" that someone like Brezinski got.

I understand the feelings of those that want a peaceful/smooth confrontation - with intellectual arguments and debate. Great.

But "they" (most of which are 'come-latelies') should understand the position of some of us tired out "old-timers" as well.

For me - I'm in total GLEE to see young kids like Luke (and others) who have the nutz that the soldiers and police only dream about from movies - lol.

Just like all those cops at VT hiding behind trees - sheesh - if there were just one "Luke" there - that jerk would have been dropped long before the 30 some odd deaths.

So I think thats the love-affair alot of us have with Luke as well - just that shear raw bravery.

Sure - hindsight is 20/20 for all. Its also easy to judge the situation without "FEELING" the heat of the moment as Luke did. We can never know his emotions and thoughts of the moment.

BTW: My apologies to Flip - I've read your previous comments and you're not all bad :) - My fault for the bad behavior. We actually "can all get along" :)

I understand,

I've been chasing these corrupt, genocidal sociopaths for over 25 years, myself.

All the more reason to play it smart and do absolutely everything we can to insure success, restore our constitutional republic and move forward as a species on this planet. The alternative is not an option.

Luke's energy and courage are commendable. If I didn't have two daughters in high school I would seriously consider relocating to NYC as that is where the main front line is. We all do what we can where we can and how we can.

The pursuit of truth and justice is a truly spiritual journey. Humanity is at a crossroads and if we are to evolve as a species we must finally realize that the real challenge we all face is an internal one and in order to move on we will have to make peace with ourselves first. As this is achieved the rest will fall into place.

The head must inform the heart, but the heart must always lead.

The means creates the end.

There can be no peace without justice, and no justice without truth.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Your question

"Why was Luke there alone?"

Luke was on Alex Jones show yesterday, he said he heard about the Zbig event just two hours before, so he rushed into his suit and just ran there.

No time for any preparations... instinct - just did it!

Um, this may be a dumb question

But what evidence links ZB to 9/11? Or David Rockefeller for that matter? Wouldn't it be SO much better to see someone do this to Larry Silverstein? Or to ask ZB what he thinks about the collapse of Building 7?

Or is this NWO thing that AJ pushes kind of exactly what David Ray Griffin accuses the 9/11 apologists of--starting with a pretedermined conclusion (i.e. NWO did 9/11 so ZB and Rockefeller did 9/11=al Qaeda did 9/11 so KSM and bin Laden did 9/11)

Why not say 9/11 involved the destruction of Larry Silverstein's property so let's ask him some hard questions and see where they lead?


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Right, NWO wha?

I used to listen to Alex but he, naturally, turns me off when exposed over a larger amount of time.

I always wondered why someone who claims to have such a strangle hold on who the REAL master-minds of evil are has no factual evidence to support the case

I'm not saying he's disinfo I'm just saying I've witnessed his tactics turn people off over and over and over. In fact, the only people I've experienced accepting Jones and listening to him beyond his angry ravings are those who already have informed themselves about such things as 9/11. By far, people are turned off mainly by his angry raving style and his broad strokes of NWO guilty by association with the Bohemian Grove party.

The thing is that I see so much of his strategy manifesting itself on this thread and then others applauding it and encouraging it.

Luke's action is obviously influenced by Alex Jones's style. And I can't sit here and pretend that I think it's effective when my experience shows me the exact opposite.

Another thing is the way in which Alex Jones will look at someone and claim he can tell they are pedophiles and NWO psychopathic baby fuckers by 'looking into their beedy little eyes'. This is akin to the comment made by chris on this thread that said...

"it's obvious that the bulk of the audience are scum"

Us against them will not work if you don't have a solid & clearly defined enemey. The "New World Order" or "Trilateral Scum" is not a clearly defined enemey.

I'm sorry if some of you are offended by my 'cult' statements but I truely do see this and I have not ulterior motives when I suggest it.

Mainly what alarms me is when someone offers basic suggestions on improving one's tactics. This can be seen througout this thread.

They are met with hostility, as if the one suggesting new methods is the enemy, as if they are 'not down' with the true patriots. Do research on cults and this is one of the staples of cult-life. Questioning the methods or the head practitioner will be met with hostility.

Hell, if you want an extreme example, do a search for "Jonestown Death Tapes" and listen to the crowd shout down and demonize the one lady who is trying to reason with Jone's as he pursuades his followers to drink the poison potion.

Before I'm accused of being a Jones hater and not down with the movement, please bare in mind that I'm entitled to my own opinions as is everyone else. I've listened to Alex Jones for years so I think that I am on firm ground when I state my opinions.

Please don't hit me.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

nope, not akin at all. i

nope, not akin at all. i didnt accuse the bulk of that audience of being "baby fuckers" and i didnt claim they were guilty of anything except ignorance. it is my personal opinion that people who shout down a man like Luke and call him a scumbag are likely scumbags themselves. that makes me Alex Jones? that makes me "cultish"? please leave my name out of your mouth if your going to assume what im thinking. dont use me to bolster your bullshit arguments.

sorry chris i did not mean to imply that...

you were calling them baby fuckers. My point was about the sweeping generalizations. You claimed that the bulk of people in the room were 'scum' and it was based on nothing more then:

1. They attended this specific speaker's event
2. that a few people were booing when Luke attacked Brezinski
3. You support Luke and not Brezinski

So in a way it is akin because Alex Jones makes sweeping generalizations like this. I'm not 100% against guilt by association but in cases where the associations are so broadly and weakly explained just seems wrong to me.

Also, I would like to address your statement here:

"it is my personal opinion that people who shout down a man like Luke and call him a scumbag are likely scumbags themselves." -chris

Seems like you are basically saying that they are scum because you agree with Luke and they are shouting down Luke.

In other words, your conclusion that 'the bulk of the audience' is scum has less to do with the actual action of shouting down someone who is asking a question (in any circumstance) as it has to do with people shouting down someone you support or agree with.

If I'm wrong about this, then you would have to also conclude Luke is scum because there is no doubt he was doing his own version of shouting down towards the speaker.

I may have over exaggerated my example and I didn't mean to imply that you were calling them baby fuckers. It was more about sweeping generalizations and the hard-core and broadly defined 'us vs. them' mentality.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

wow. you take twisting a

wow. you take twisting a mans words to another level. and thats saying something around here. no, it wasnt JUST because i agree with Luke and i dont agree with the people who paid to see a murderer and sociopath speak that i think the bulk of them are likely scumbags. it was more the way they themselves called him a scumbag among other names and told him to shut up and sit down etc. along with the other reasons ive listed in this thread. Luke was shouting down a man who is literally a murderer, a man who has created so much death and you compare that to an angry mob(who dont know any better, which is no excuse)shouting down a patriotic citizen like Luke. there were 2 options here as far as i see it based on the type of people who pay to see a man like this speak. one option is to go the route that you likely prefer, a method that works in some circumstances but would have left no impression here which is to ask the question politely and let ZB give his bullshit answer while the audience eats it up and accepts it. option 2 is what Luke did which i would argue was right for this circumstance. it had a lasting impact and ZB, a criminal if there ever was one is rattled. win win. but i know how people around here like to analyze things to death, im guilty of that myself from time to time.......

gotcha. You may be right &

gotcha. You may be right & you may be wrong.

I still think that a historic video clip of ZB wiggling around well formed questions would have been far more effective.

The Alex Jonestown Massacre

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sounds good, when you gonna

sounds good, when you gonna do it? or are you gonna just continue to sit here and shit on people who do something constructive because you dont agee with their tactics and conclusions? AJ doesnt control the movement, stop acting like he does. he just doesnt have as much power as you seem to think he does. he reaches a pretty small amount of people in the grand scheme of things. your reverse obsession with him is starting to make me think. why did you hold your tounge before? i ask because this anti-AJ crusade seems kind of new(at least the intensity of it seems new). ive noticed that almost every thread you've commented on in the past couple of weeks have included pot shots at AJ, many times when he has nothing to do with the thread or conversation. you've been here for a pretty long time now, why the sudden surge in anti-AJ talk lately? did you have a eureka moment or did you just up and decide to go on this campaign one day? i respect your opinion but this shit is puzzling to me(not your views on AJ, they dont surprise me and i actually agree on some points, but the sudden up-swing in it). AJ is not that powerful man. as far as ZB goes, hes a criminal and what Luke did is exactly what people like ZB deserve. i agree that confronting Silverstein would make more sense but that doesnt mean this was a bad thing.

Well, it's like this, see...

Okay, I certainly won't pretend to you (because you know better) that I have ever been a fan of AJ. However, there is this weird thing happening to me that has very dramatically shifted my view from "Let's all get together for 9/11 Truth" to "Whoa, Nelly, let's stop pussyfooting around and start putting the brakes on some of the bullshit within the movement" -- primarily the assumption that we need to go along with the righties like AJ for the sake of success. This doesn't involve any collusion with RT on my part, but I get the impression that for some reason he, too, has felt a stronger imperative recently to come out of the closet as someone who feels that a cost-benefit analysis of AJ and his NWO-believing ilk is revealing him/them to be a losing proposition NOW. (In the past, he has certainly disseminated a lot of information that is helpful to us, regardless of or despite any agenda he may have had with which we would disagree.)

Cass, what do you mean by

Cass, what do you mean by "NWO-believing ilk"? Is that phrase saying that you don't believe that there is a New World Order?

OMG! NWO-denier! how dare you!

Can someone please define what exactly the NWO is? Because if people are going to start accusing others of believing or not believing things, it would help to know what those things are. New World Order is a catchphrase, a slogan, and maybe even a motto. What just doesn't fly in my book is using NWO like the perps use al Qaeda. No need to define it or even prove it. Just weave a narrative that sounds scary based on things that seem like they might fit together.

It's just sloppy research that irks me, and Alex Jones is a sloppy researcher, as people usually are who are more concerned with selling ads, merch, and getting ratings.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Ever heard the song...

Cult Of Personality

Exactly my feellings on AJ

The Al Queada vs. NWO comparison is exactly the same that I use when talking about AJ.

When the enemy is so loosely and vaguely defined it's hard to begin to organize effective opposition to your enemies.

Same with Al design I'm sure.

Chris I've explained a million times

That as we have more people become aware, we should raise our standards. AJ might have been great when he was one of the only people talking about 9/11, but that doesn't by any means make him " the original and best" . Anyway do you really care that much about this? You claim not to but you sure seem sensitive. Why not let me say what I want about AJ, say you disagree, and move on? Put up some original content for once!


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I've been a reader of 9/11 Blogger for more than year. I hadn't signed up until now, because I thought there was little use "preaching to the choir". However, watching this video provoked me to do so.

The message of 9/11 truth is violent, and it is often difficult for people to handle it - I was in a daze for a couple of days after reading about the CD of the WTC - and when the messenger employs a tactic of verbal violence, this makes the delivery and the assimilation of the message almost impossible. The audience reacted when Luke named Brzezinski as possibly one of the perpetrators. There is no evidence to my knowledge linking Brzezinski to the planning and execution of the attacks, but even if there was such evidence, the aim is to spread knowledge of the evidence, not to make people appear as victims of name calling and libel, which could only strengthen their position. The best tactic at our disposal is Mahatma Gandhi's philosophy of non-violent resistance, in word and deed, known as Satyagraha. If it ever comes to a violent confrontation, it should be clear who is fighting for what, who is fighting to uphold righteousness and who is fighting to uphold their desire for domination. The above video, however does not depict a fight. It depicts an emotional ad hominem attack on Brzezinski, which allowed him to easily evade the issue false flag terrorism. I felt sad watching it.

Hey, the choir always needs preaching to...

... because pssst... it's not really a choir. The Truth Movement is a young one and increasingly experiencing growing pains, and needs all the thoughtful input it can get. Welcome.

THANK YOU for signing up

there is no choir as Cass says. there are many people with strong opinions and every point of view helps us become more representative of people who care enought o engage others. New people also makes it harder for the cliques to be effective at pumping each other up.


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I first saw this movie, I thought about critiquing the way Luke accused Zbig of being one of the responsible individuals for 9/11, and for calling him scum. I thought that the people in the audience might look at him as being "crazy", etc...

When Zbig wrote his book, "The Grand Chessboard," he did so to create a, "comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy." He admits this by saying that this is, "the purpose of this book."

If you read the book, you will see that there are references to things like how difficult it will be to, "fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

He further states, "The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor."

Because the PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" references a lot of the same ideas as Zbig's book, I think it's assumed that they got a lot of their ideas from his writings. I don't know if that's true or not. It does make sense to me.

That being said, I don't know that I would directly accuse Zbig of being behind 9/11. He may have inadvertently given the blueprint for those responsible, but I don't know 100% if he was involved.

However, last night I was listening to YT's Wednesday show with Carol Brouillet (by the way, YT is the first person I've heard pronounce her name correctly on the radio), and he said something that really hit home.

Basically, he made the points of "do we want people to be active, visible or don't we?", and "those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

I agree with those assessments. I hope that if people are active, and visible, that they do so non-violently, and try to promote the best information. Other than that, thank you to everyone willing.

Thank you to Luke for making this brave effort.

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Hello, I really do not

I really do not understand why many americans look at Zbigniew Brzezinski and or kessinger as heroes when they killed directly or indirectly many innocent people, then mr brzezinski say war on terror , well who created that terror, isn't him with the CIA and then he says some stirred up muslims, i mean some and out of control! , what is he talking about they funded fundemantalists with tens of billions creating schools with the gulf pakistan and saudis help and maybe till now doing for some kind of interests like oil,private copmanies business fighting iranians...etc, then he says social repsonsibility yeah sure with the private companies and the crooks, everyone knows all these gangs and the kick back deals , rockeffelers...etc, it is not something new, so is it the american media that people really do not know the truth or brain wash people to target their emotions against something when the reality is vise versa, i really do not know is it ignorance or what!! well if you wanted to defeat an enemy or socialism to fill more the some people greedy pockets then at least play fairly not using the most develish ways by supporting and funding fundementalists even with sometimes the knowledge of the vatican at the time of solidarity group, and by the way the eastern countries are not any better now with more crimes and children sex trade, so thanks brzenski and others , it is not even christian nor with the least morals, and do you think people normal people and the majority living on earth would surly prefer now social programs, so mr brzenzki , i really do not know what good you make, and don't you think you did more harm and crimes than many other , so where is the justice in the land of freedom
not only that if the usa claims to be christan well look what is happening in lebanon now egypt iraq christians, 2 millions of iraqi chrsitians immigrated from iraq, priests killed and in africa...etc, so who is the cause it is usa brzenski his intelligent ideas!! that killed and is killing many christians all over because of the wahabi principles, so who is benefeting from all this some group of people secretly.
Anyhow look around you now i think USA needs to stop funding those groups with the saudis and be honest and fight for peace, not for oil and halliburton and weapon deals with the british too , supporting corrupted governments using double standard with different countries and people as it wants.
Do something good for human race and change the image of usa arounnd the world and put some good advisors not who destroy the whole world with their ideas like Mr brzenski or whoever
but then i think what brzenski created with the fundementalists using islamic religion was the biggest most deangerous mistake ever, so fix your own mistake and look around you and do not pretend that you are always right when you know what big harm you did and the results are revealing as the obvious proof.