Eyewitness Inside WTC 7 Reported Explosions Before Collapse
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/300407wtc7explosions.htm
An eyewitness who evacuated WTC 7 before its collapse reported an explosion inside the building, before exiting via the lobby which had been almost completely destroyed - before either of the twin towers had collapsed nearly 400 yards away in the WTC complex.
This testimony severely undermines the flawed explanation that Building 7 collapsed as a result of the damage it sustained following the collapse of the towers, since the structure was seemingly being gutted by explosives prior to 9:59AM.
WTC 7 was not hit by a plane but collapsed in a perect implosion in its own footprint at 5:20PM.
From a September 11, 2001 Associated Press report.
After the initial blast, Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. He was with Michael Hess, the city's corporation counsel, when they felt and heard another explosion. First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby, or what was left of it. "I looked around, the lobby was gone. It looked like hell," Jennings said.
Yesterday, we featured newly uncovered close-up footage that shows limited fires burning in WTC 7 immediately before its collapse.
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This could have been when one of the Twin Towers collapsed
The explosion described by Barry Jennings could well have just been when the South or North Tower collapsed. I.e. What he was hearing was the explosives going off in the Twin Towers, rather than WTC 7. You can read a transcript of the account upon which the Associated Press report was based here:
http://is124.ce.psu.edu/Edcomm/WITNweb/2423/script.html
Jennings said: "Well, me and Mr. Hess, the corporation counsel were on the 23rd floor [of WTC 7]. I told him, ‘We gotta get out of here.’ We started walking down the stairs. We made it to the 8th floor. Big explosion. Blew us back into the 8th floor, and I turned to Hess. I said, ‘this is it; we’re dead. We’re not gonna make it out of here.’"
Also, see the following 9/11 Timeline entry, which mentions how Jennings and Hess became trapped in WTC 7 after it had already been evacuated, and had to be rescued at about midday:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a1210threerescued&sc...
the transcript
has the question asked of Jennings as describing the moment of impact. What impact? Why would explosives in the twins blow him back into the eighth floor of 7? Why did the 8th floor of 7 have all its windows blown out? I think it's clear that tehre were explosions in 7, no doubt like others timed to coincide with other events (plane impact? tower collapse?) in order to confuse people and hide what was going on. Of course, explosions in 7 are a HUGE problem for the official story.
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To add to authentication... from archive.org...
Below is the copy from 26-Nov-2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20011126164626/http://record-eagle.com/2001/sep/11scene.htm
I love seeing all this stuff saved from the memory hole :-)
Thanks all, best wishes
Memory hole.
There is still lots more to dig up. I can clearly remember lots more footage from that day. (People running and looking on in horror as the buildings collapsed, footage later in the day of FBI officials prancing around for the cameras in front of a hotel [in Boston?], tons of footage from the search for survivors/remains and the clean up effort...) This stuff must have been saved somewhere. There is literally hundreds of hours worth of tape related to this event that has yet to surface. Keep digging!
Also, remember the plane that crashed into a residential area in Queens about two months after 9/11??? It was all over the news for about 3 or 4 days, then *POOF* Gone like it never happened. Then I heard ONE report, ONE time about 6 months or a year later explaining that the jet had "fallen onto its tail section when it was under construction in the hangar". This caused some hidden stress fracture that worsened over the plane's 18 or so years of service... Jumbo jets can't fall backwards when they're under construction!!!!! This is absolutely retarded. This story needs to be dug back up too. Maybe this was a copy-cat hijacking that got shot down?
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Yeah I think it was the Copley Plaza
They were apaprently escorting out some of the local bin Ladens (not joking...)
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Is it just me or is there something dripping
from the top of the window frame?
Possibly reaching here, but if you look closely, at 1:24 into the clip you can see something (running?) near the top of the window frame. And the smoke surrounding the area appears white (aluminum oxide?)
Please tell me I'm not seeing things.
I saw that too and it is
I saw that too and it is suspect. If there is a timestamp to go with that footage maybe we can locate other footage around that time of that area on building 7. To tell you the truth, I find it almost impossible to believe that no one caught on video the explosion cited by that one african american business man (durr forgetting his name at the moment).
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BARRY JENNINGS
is the "black businessman" except that he worked for the housing authority.
try a mnemonic--Barry Jennings and Michael Hess
Escaping Seven saw a mess.
We need to make these household names and I'm as guilty as anyone of forgetting. Maybe a nice facebook? Or should I make a series of DUMB WITNESS trading cards in the 9/11 Cover-up All Stars? Dumb as in ain't talkin', not stupid...
Better yet, someone else want to do it? :)
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High Quality Footage of White Wisps...
911blogger "arie" ripped this from the original internet archive mpegs.
You can download the high quality XVID (640x480 de-interlaced) at :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IJOX7S8X
More info in blog : New High Quality Footage of WTC7 Burning
He has ripped quite a few clips from the internet archive footage, check his blogs out at :
http://www.911blogger.com/blog/1958
Very much worth a visit.
Best wishes
OK, proof AJ reads 911Blogger
Didn't we cover this yesterday in comments to this thread??
http://www.911blogger.com/node/8188
Yes we did, and the comments were for a story about limited fires, not eyewitnesses to explosions, which I added. But now it's AJ's story! And no mention of Blogger! Guess it's time to Digg? Whatever, imitation is the sincerest form of something...
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True..
And, 911blogger needs AJ as well.
Whether we like it or not, AJ has turned on thousands and thousands of people to 9/11.
He also has some of the most prominent and amazing people in the 9/11 Truth Movement on his show and he's responsible for so many positive things within the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Like 911blogger, AJ is a pulse for what's currently happening in the 9/11 Truth Movement.
This isn't a popularity
This isn't a popularity contest
If something gets posted here and someone else takes it and runs with it, that is perfectly fine. Its all about sharing information.
There can be no egos in this movement, that leads to nothing but arguments and wasted time. If anyone is in this to get famous, please leave.
100% in agreement
But there's nothing wrong with giving credit where credit is due either. I would add that anyone who is in this to make money or a career out of exposing the truth that is also suspect. Not naming names, mind you! :)
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I agree 100% also. Giving
I agree 100% also. Giving credit where credit is due is an important part of showing honesty and integrity.
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I wasn't saying *I* deserved or wanted the credit, I think he could well have plugged blogger if only to show how good we are at combining our forces in pursuit of the truth. problem is our bottom up style threatens his top down style'...
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Not that it's any less suspicious but...
The updated official version on building 7 (though still not fully released) does suggest that initial damage to the building was followed by the igniting and possibly eruption of a diesel fuel reserve inside the building. The explosion could be explained in connection with that, at least that is what skeptics will argue.
I still don't think the fall looks any less suspicious (or damning), but it won't help to get hog-tied to a point that dissolves into thin air. I think "explosions", given the myriad problems with eyewitness testimony and the possible alternative explanations , are not the strongest evidence out there.
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I dunno
I'm tempted to agree that with the collapse being such obvious proof reports of explosions are less importnat, but at the same time diesel fuel fires or explosions (for which there is no evidence) could not result in the symmetrical collapse observed, as neither could sever all the columns necessary at once.
A series of explosions however does support the "hypothesis" of controlled demolition, since CD involves explosives.
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Planes hit towers and THEN an explosion in the WTC7 lobby?
Am I missing something here?
Are we to conclude that the planes hit the twin towers and THEN there is an explosion in the lobby of WTC7?
How could plane impacts and the subsequent fires in the twin towers have ANYTHING to do with a explosion in the lobby of WTC7?
In a rational world we would have to say there is no way they could be related. They must have separate causes.
That is the key issue.
How is NIST going to explain this?
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How did CNN and BBC have foreknowledge of the WTC7 collapse, yet five years later, the government cannot explain it?
Well, he said the lobby looked like hell...
I suppose that means a bomb did it, i.e. not the dust cloud that enveloped it after the collapse of the north tower.
Questions: When did the explosions in 7 take place?
Why was no attempt made to put out the fires in 7? (We know why, but what is the exuse given?)
There seems to have been water available as a fire engine can be seen spraying in the video as the reporter says--"that building over there".
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And why do we not ask
just how such scattered fires on different floors started in the first place. This notion really hit me earlier. It appears to be a case of arson, but nobody ever mentions that. As if some glancing hits of debris from the North Tower (300 feet away), to the external facad of the building, could cause those fires inside of WTC7.
This blowing of WTC7 later in the day, is why many people believe, given just WHO was housed in there, with tons and tons of security, as well as structural re-inforcement I might add - that there was something going on in there, related to the 9/11 operation, maybe even the high tech command center for remote controlled aircraft as well as the demolition explosives sequencing for the Twin Towers. A base of operations, in other words. Plus the destruction of all those investigative files on money laundering and the California energy scam. So they probably blew the building for a whole variety of purposes. Nothing went wrong there. I for one don't believe any plane was destined for that building for example.
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Regardless,
Bringing that building down like that in broad daylight, was a pretty brazen maneuver, and they almost got away with it, they DID get away with it!
What kind of Orwellian world do we live in?
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no question on any of that
I think the explosives in the towers had to be going off in real time, given that we know the timing was so important. Plane approaching south tower... wait for it to hit... and... BOOM. A big explosion is set off in the north tower.
Watching, watching... whoa, south tower is tipping to side, start sequence on lower floors now!
etc...
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There was PLENTY of WATER...
Below is a picture of some pump feed hoses coming from near the Hudson...
I'm not sure of explosions in the WTC7 lobby, even though I have read a few reports that state this.
Below is clear fire damage on the 29th and 30th floor of WTC7 (west edge, near SW corner) which was present at 11:33am (EXIF confirmed).
A little bit of the puzzle...
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a lot of bedunkers
say that the reason they didn't fight the fire in 7 is because the water main had broken. DRG I think in his new book clarifies that they were pumping water out of the river which was right nearby...
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Yep... The bedunkers are liars...
An that picture above proves it...
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WTC7 Fire Alarms, set to TEST MODE early on 9/11....
Before I forget...
I cannot remember where I read it, but I recall that the complete fire alarm system in WTC7 (which identifies the floors affected by fire, not sure if they control the sprinklers) were set to TEST MODE before 9am on 9/11.
If anyone has any additional info, please post it, it is out there somewhere....
Many thanks
It is in the NIST report
Can't show where, but I know I saw it. I'll look .
www.northtexansfor911truth.com
From the NIST report:
Active Fire Protection Systems—Fire Alarm Systems
Finding 2.25: The fire alarm system that was monitoring WTC 7 sent to the monitoring company only
one signal (at 10:00:52 a.m. shortly after the collapse of WTC 2) indicating a fire condition in the
building on September 11, 2001. This signal did not contain any specific information about the location
of the fire within the building. From the alarm system monitor service view, the building had only one
zone, “AREA 1.” The building fire alarm system was placed on TEST for a period of 8 h beginning at
6:47:03 a.m. on September 11, 2001. Ordinarily, this is requested when maintenance or other testing is
being performed on the system, so that any alarms that are received from the system are considered the
result of the maintenance or testing and are ignored. NIST was told by the monitoring company that for
systems placed in the TEST condition, alarm signals are not shown on the operator’s display, but records
of the alarm are recorded into the history file.
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That's the one....
Thanks Joe...
Just another coincedence hey...
Best wishes
Great Information Recall.
Now that is what I'm talking about. Great part of the movement! One person can't possibly keep track of everything involved, and that's why I love a well informed community where another person can come to the help of another. Great exchange 911veritas and Joe. You guys rock.
The diesel fuel theory must
The diesel fuel theory must come from the debunkers' coincidence files: just as they claim the Towers were built to withstand airliner impact but the designers FORGOT to consider any resulting fuel fire, they claim that in the case of the building housing the NYC command center (which was designed to withstand all disasters, natural and nefarious), they FORGOT to consider that the command center would be destroyed by omnipresent diesel fuel .
If these things make sense to people who are in positions of authority regarding building safety, I simply don't understand why all tall buildings in the US haven't been evacuated until such time as the building codes can be rewritten and enacted. I'm moving to a yurt until they get it straightened out.
The funny thing about the claimed diesel fires... is that...
The main fire damage was on floors 7, 8, 12 and 13.
No large tank was above the 3rd floor, no small day tank was above the 9th floor.
The small day tanks were (in gallons) : 275 on 5th floor, 275 on 7th floor, 275 on 8th floor and 50-100 on 9th floor.
More info about floor occupation and fuel systems at :
http://www.911blogger.com/node/8188#comment-137657
No wonder they're having problems explaining WTC7 without arson and explosives...
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Just to be clear about the diesel fires...
Someone who's read it closely can probably say for sure, but I believe the argument was that the diesel was pumped up from a tank in the basement to the higher floors (floor 7, I think). That could explain scattered fires above, as could flying debris.
None of it, however, gets near explaining that picture perfect descent.
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Just make sure it ain't a SILVERSTEIN yurt...
They have a tendency to... well, you know.
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Meaning of initial blast clarifies the story
The critical thinker will determine what the author meant by initial blast.
Does initial blast mean
a: an explosion heard (basement bomb) prior to impact?
b: the result of the first plane's impact?
c: the result of the first collapse?
d: explosion from a device prior to collapse?
The keyword of course being initial.
From there I think we can determine what the second explosion is.
"I would imagine that if you took the top expert in that type of work and gave him the assignment of bringing these buildings down with explosives, I would bet that he could do it." -1993-John Skilling, Head Structural Engineer WTC Towers
Those buildings were a white elephant
for the Port Authority. It would have cost multiple billions to have completely restored those buildings. The had to go, and might as well snatch the gold from under them while you're at it eh? I hope that aspect remains in LCFC.
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tell that to Bo Dietl!
Elephants are literally FULL of heaviness. This further confirms his theories--one of those elephants must have jumped from the North Tower and landed on building 7. No building is designed to withstand the impact of something as big and heavy as an elephant. After all, nobody could have imagined using elephants as weapons! Right Bo??
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More bogus journalism from prisonplanet
At the least you would expect Jones to CONTACT the witness and clarify what time these events happened, and what they mean. But no, we get vague unsupported statements and we're suppsoed to run off and start repeating them everywhere.
It was reported by firemen and others that when one of the towers fell a bunch of it landed on WTC7 and "gouged out" a section of that face, damaging the lobby extensively.
They talk about 18 stories of damage, and columns taken out at the site of debris impact.
How does this relate to the witness testimony?
A real reporter might ask some questions to figure it out.
Further, Jones is making up facts about 9:59am. That can't be established from the text.
I wish people would be very cautious about their sources, and the claims made. Unfortunately, they aren't.
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I first learned Barry Jennings name
In a book on 9/11 from Spain. The spanish journalist actually went into some detail about Jennings' and Hess' subsequent behavior. They both apparently now suffer from PTSD induced amnesia and refuse to talk about their experiences that day. I agree that a real journalist would go into more detail than our own comments section, by as you say, trying to locate Barry Jennings and Michael Hess... wish I hadn't lent out my copy of the Spanish book, or I'd add more details... here is his site: http://www.11-s.net/index.php
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PTSD induced amnesia and
PTSD induced amnesia and they don't want to talk about it? Jennings wasn't suffering amnesia when he spoke about the blast on video. In fact, there is a unique frame of memory for extremely traumatic events called "flashbulb memories". It's a heightening of all the senses regarding that experience. Time seems to move slower details can be remembered in extreme detail. Amnesia can come with PTSD; however, you'll find it tends to occur with cerebral injury. He was blasted by the bomb but if cerebral injury was a culprit for his amnesia it should have been immediately apparent(ie: if he claims he can't remember the event after the fact then he shouldn't have been able to recite the events for the camera after the event). This man needs to be seen before a grand jury. It sounds as if he has been intimidated to shut up.
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I agree - he is a witness
and can't just present the proverbial "note from his doctor" to avoid giving testimony. Clearly he is either too scared or too bribed to talk. I think Michael Hess is now a "Giuliani Partner" in the false flag security racket that Rudy has been running since being crowned America's Mayor. Along with lord knows how many other cronies.
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Alternative interpretation
"After the initial blast, Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. [...] First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby, or what was left of it. 'I looked around, the lobby was gone. It looked like hell,' Jennings said."
Is it absolutely certain that this cannot be construed as follows?
"After the initial blast [in WTC 1], Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center[, which was located] on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. [...] First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby [of WTC 1], or what was left of it.
AHA
David Griffin quotes an interview by Michael Hess where he says that he and another gentleman (Barry Jennings) went down to the ieghth floor, where there was an explosion. He and Jennings, he says, were then trapped there for an hour and a half. The source? UPN9 interview, as cited in? Loose Changout Final Cuban (Loose Change FInal Cut) So apparently Griffin has seen LCFC? And apparently the film includes an interview with Michael Hess? Alright, I'm waiting--let's see what billionaire truth denier Mark Cuban deigns worthy of putting befor ethe American people. I bet it won't mention the word Israel but that's just a hunch. We shall see.
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