A major Italian network has recently aired some conclusive evidence that Building 7 was demolished with explosives

"Seven is exploding"

Welcome to all foreign readers. Luogocomune is a news commentary site (all in Italian, thus far) featuring a large, separate section on 9/11. In a way, the whole website revolves around the idea that unless that paramount, unacceptable lie called "the 9/11 terrorist attacks" is removed and put into right perspective, the downward spiral towards this new "dark age" of humanity will never stop.

To us "9/11 victims" are not only the 3,000 people that perished on that day, but also some 650,000 civilians killed in Iraq since the invasion began, 100,000 plus Afghans who've met the same fate in their country, more than 3,000 US soldiers sent by "Dick & Rummy" to die under false pretense, and --sadly but truly -- the ever increasing number of first responders who were knowingly sent to their death by an administration that could be defined "criminal" for this one action alone.

It's for them all that we fight.


Now for some interesting news we wish to share with anyone interested in 9/11 worldwide.

On April 16, 2007, a major Italian network (Canale 5) has aired some conclusive evidence that Building 7 did not collapse on its own, but was deliberately taken down with the use of explosives.

The piece was part of a larger presentation we provided to the network as an update on the ongoing research on 9/11. In particular, we included a clip we had all seen many times before, but possibly never listened to with the full attention it deserved. Here is the 6 min. segment (please ignore yellow subtitles):

[More videos inside]. Yes, we all saw that last clip more than once, but each time we must have stopped at the powerful evidence the blast itself  represents, while disregarding the ensuing exchange, which in our opinion represents the final nail in the coffin of the official version on WTC7. Without even the need to discuss Larry's intentionally ambiguous "pull it" statement.

Our presentation was broadcast as a rebuttal to a bunch of accusations leveled on the same channel ...

... by a group of Italian debunkers against the movie "Inganno Globale" (produced by this writer/website), which is possibly the "flagship" for 9/11 Italian truth seekers, being somehow the equivalent to any other major 9/11 movie in English available on the web.


For those who are interested, this is the entire, 42 min. presentation that was aired on Apr. 16th by Italian Canale 5, divided in the following 5 segments:

1 - Intro + Military stand-down.
2 - Pentagon + UA175
3 - WTC7 (the segment you just saw)
4 - Twin Towers + UA93
5 - 2 touching testimonies by W. Rodriguez and David "We were also killed on 9/11" Miller.

The narration is in Italian, all the original interviews are in English. Keeping an eye on the brief summary above each segment, however, may help you grasp the whole thing anyway.

Part 1 - Intro + Military stand-down

a) After a brief intro the 9/11 Commission Report is presented as the equivalent of the infamous Warren Report, in that both Commissions openly refused to look at evidence that would compromise in any way the reconciliation of the Report with the desired, official version. b) The "Pandora's Box" of evidence against the hijackers emerged from the crash site of UA93 -- while the very plane is yet to be found -- is shown as an example of likely fabricated evidence by the FBI. c) Senator Dayton [thanks Eric Hufschmid for the footage] denounces as "lies" the Norad timelines appearing in the Report. d) The very heads of the Commission, Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton, denounce in a book the Pentagon's "untrue" statements on their failure to act on 9/11. e) Rumsfeld's intercept procedure change order is paired with the illuminating testimony by Robin Hordon (Pilots for 911 Truth), resulting in a possible answer on how the military response could have been thwarted without necessarily involving "thousands of people" in the plot: All it took apparently was for Rummy not to pick up the phone.

Part 2 - Pentagon + UA175

a) Italian debunkers are caught in the act of resorting to the cheapest tricks in order to try and cast some doubt on the critics of the Pentagon's official version. b) A 2002 New York Times article is shown, reporting doubts on the authenticity of Hani Hanjour's "commercial license", while the alleged hijacker is clearly portrayed as someone who "could not fly at all". c) A collection of witnesses seeing a somehow smaller plane at the Pentagon is presented, while the fact that the debunkers seem unable to produce a witness speaking of a "large plane" themselves is underlined. d) Danielle O'Brien's testimony on what looked on their screens like a fighter jet is presented. e) The idea that "all it took for the hijackers to fly those planes right into their targets was to set the auto-pilot systems" is refuted both by the 330 degrees turn by "Hany Hanjour" before hitting the Pentagon -- losing sight of a target you have been so lucky to find in first place? -- and by the testimony of the controller who followed UA175 all the way into New York's harbor, executing maneuvers "you would only see in the movies". While both alleged pilots, as we know, had never flown a jet before in their life. (Nor had the other two, for that matter.)

Part 3 - WTC7

The same segment you saw above, in which: a) Danny Jowenko's opinion on WTC7's collapse is presented ("a controlled demolition"). b) A short clip from "Inganno Globale" follows, showing a side-by-side comparison between controlled demolitions and the World Trade Center collapses. c) A possible solution for the apparent mishap by the BBC on the actual collapse of the "Solomon Brother's Building" is suggested: It was CNN's earlier announcent that might have confused them. d) However, a good explanation for such foreknowledge must be found, especially since e) A testimony from a first responder moves that foreknowledge even further up, "between noon and one o' clock." f) Police is heard clearing the area because "the building is about to blow up." g) A firefighter is heard commenting "We gotta get back, seven is exploding," his collegue responding "I know, I know," right after a powerful blast is heard from the streets nearby.

Part 4 - Twin Towers + United 93

a)  Scott Forbes' testimony is presented as a possible answer to the ever-recurring question, "How would it have been possible to place 'tons' of explosives in the Towers with everybody watching?" By doing it exactly "under everyone's eyes," the answer seems to be. b) Debunkers are shown scrambling through the dictionary in their desperate attempt to refute the tons of testimony about "explosions" in the Towers, prior and during the collapses: If you translate "scoppio" ("pop") into English -- they maintain -- you will get "explosion." Therefore it was only "pops" what all those people really heard. [Hey, let's cut them some slack. Someone may even fall for that!] c) The debunkers' statement that "there is no video actually confirming the sound of explosions" is confuted by the very clip [ending with "Seven is exploding"] you saw above. d) The debunkers' statement that "the idea of molten steel is sheer fantasy" is confuted by presenting different clips, including two reports on the "meteorite" now stored at the JFK hangar. e) How most of the crucial information about the true reasons for the Twin Towers' collapses ended up being sealed in court proceedings is revealed. f) The fact that the debunkers avoided confronting the notion that UA93 debris was found as far as eight miles away from the crash site is underlined, while the same fact is presented as definite proof that the plane did not fall in one piece into the infamous, "empty" hole. g) An interesting comment by a former NTSB official suggesting the "Let's Roll" story is but a nice legend -- "Just like the Alamo" -- ends the segment.

Part 5 - 2 Testimonies

a) William Rodriguez testimony confirms, among other things, that underground explosions took place in Tower 1 before the collapse. b) David Miller's condition, which he shares with hundreds of first responders, that "we now live with those buildings in our bodies" confirms, among other things, that the pulverization of the buildings was too fine to be the result of sheer force of gravity (which is the only force acting in a passive, non-induced structural collapse).

A final note: Except maybe for the "seven is exploding" sound bite, there was nothing truly exceptional in the broadcast but the broadcast itself. As the 9/11 web community at large, in fact, it seems at this point we have gathered enough evidence to make a valid case for a new investigation. We suggest researchers worldwide may want to shift some of their energies -- wherever possible -- towards their local media, to possibly achieve what we have luckily managed to achieve here in Italy.

As the times "are a' changing" fast, it may turn out much easier than expected to puncture the mainstream media cover that still protects the official version. After all it's not politics, it's ratings that they care most about, and Rosie O'Donnell has just shown us that once you have those on your side, nothing else truly matters.

Massimo Mazzucco

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When you think you have seen all the clips you could see... there is only more.

That first clip was fantastic. Props to the Italian t.v.

Now lets hear the bedunkers say:

a. Electric box
b. Diesel tank.
c. We do not know where the sound was coming from. (When clearly the fireman "Building 7" was blowing up)

Just amazing. I am more convinced now than ever.

It is pretty obvious that who ever demolished 7 wanted people away, from the very moments after the collapses of WTC1 / 2. To be able to complete the demolitions of WTC7 with the least possible witnesses. All they had to do is spread a word around about the imminence of the "collapse" of WTC 7 as the mood is clear at the time.


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A closer examination will reveal that the fireman in the video clip says "sh*t is exploding", not "seven is exploding."

I think

He said "Sh*t has exploded" too, but the point is the police man said:

"You gotta get back, there is a building about to blow up." WTF

That is insane, there was an obvious rumor spread around by those that want to demolish WTC7 that WTC7 was weak or about blow up. No one could make such accurate predictions on a chaotic day like 9/11.


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Worth noting the time of clips....

The big bang on the phone has been analyzed as being at approx 10:20am (coincides with car bomb reports, i.e. EMT Patricia Ondrovic) .

The later "coming down soon" is just before seven comes down.

A good analysis of "Big bang" vid can be found at :


Best wishes

Great analysis.

Great analysis thanks a lot.
I think those that said building is about to blow up need to be interviewed.



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Agreed, I thought it was great too...

but it's not my analysis...

Credit must go to "Mintaka33" from Pilots for 9/11 Truth

Best wishes

Related story...

A related story about Italian knowledge of 9/11....

A friend and fellow truther told me the following story.
She recently (April07) had an Italian exchange student staying at her home. She was at first reluctant to bring up 9/11 but after a few days she decided to broach the subject. To her surprise the Italian student said, "Of course!, Everyone in Italy knows that 9/11 was an inside job!"
My friend was of course excited and relieved and they proceded to have a lengthy discussion of planes, jet fuel fires, controlled demolition etc. Then the conversation turned to historic examples of false flag terrorism: the Maine, Gulf of Tonkin, Gladio. STOP! The Italian student informed her that he had never heard of Gladio. How could this be? After all, the Gladio terror operations were directed by NATO but they happened in Italy. They even kidnapped Aldo Moro, the Italian Prime Minister. Surely he had heard of that. "No.", replied the student, "Aldo Moro, was kidnapped by the Red Brigade!"

So there you have it. The Italian student can see through the American propaganda and can see 9/11 for what it is, but he is still captive of the Italian mind control about their own false flag events.

It seems that since the propaganda is directed at the target domestic population, people in foreign countries may have a better view of events because they are not the direct target of the Psy-Op.


I am

I live in Jordan. People cried "Inside Job" here days from 9/11. Mainly at the beginning because we were perplexed at the unprecedented failure to prevent the attacks.

Obviously it turned out to be much worse.



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Don't give 'em any ideas. This is why we need to break up the media monopolies, stop the North American Union, and probably persuade the Europeans to break up the EU eventually. If power and media outlets keep getting consolidated, we might all be fed the SAME propaganda next time. Then our troubles will be much worse. ...But I guess we know how to recognize it now. If not, do some research on it!! I suggest everyone go to Wiki and look up:

Ad Hominem
Straw Man

Knowledge is power.

"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Also see:

Adam Curtis on Freud, and where people such as his daughter and nephew took his [Freud's] incomplete works into the most disgusting of all psychological operations (PSYOPS)... mass manipulation, for money.

Also study the more inclusive topic of "sophistry", which discusses its MANY parts such as ad hominem, strawman, ground shifting, regression ad finitum...

Sophistry, rhetoric, and plan old fashioned... insincerity... THAT is what's being dealt a heavy blow by digging out the truth buried beneath "9/11" and ALL Big Lies.

The Century of the Self

I believe you are referring to the documentary by Adam Curtis called 'The Century of the Self'. It comes in 4 parts and is HIGHLY recommended:

Here is the 1st part for starters:


AND understand that wikipedia is only part of the story

it can be useful as long as you understand how things get manipulated there--never take it as gospel truth...

i think limited hangout is an important term to add too. GREAT point on the "outside the propaganda bubble" issue. divide and conquer works for this reason, but a combination of divide and conquer WITH a uniform global propaganda machine is what they're gunning for...


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force


I particularly like the way that Pentagon video demonstrates

that a Boeing 757 with a 125' wingspan cannot fit though a hole about 16' feet in diameter!

Pentagon's Real Problem

The new wing of the Pentagon which was were the crash occurred was a brand new and designed not to let anything penetrate. This just might lend credence to such a small hole. As far as parts of the plane, there was a large pile of debris outside the Pentagon. In my opinion, the real issue at the Pentagon is not whether a commercial jet or a Global Hawk drone or a missile hit the Pentagon, the real issue is that there are nearly 200 surveillance cameras which definitively captured whatever it was that hit the Pentagon. And the Pentagon is refusing to release the video despite they are being sued by powerhouse watchdog groups like Judicial Watch to release the videos. The Pentagon is failing to comply with legal request trying to resolve the Pentagon issue for nearly 7 years now.


Not once have I heard a good excuse from a believer of the OCT regarding the cameras.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)

We are always asked (often disingenuously, IMO) about....

..."well, what happened to the passengers, then?"......

OK, my response to that is, "I didn't plan 9/11, so I don't know....."

But, we can follow up with, "Do you know that the only phone call said to come from 77, by Barbara Olsen, was impossible, because air phones weren't installed on that plane?"

And (as you all have mentioned above), "Why won't the government, 5 & 1/2 years later, show the American people the video of 77 hitting the Pentagon when they have 200 surveilllance cameras documenting it?"

Lastly, "How can ANYTHING hit the Pentagon, which has to be the most heavily defended building in the world, 1 hour 40 minutes after planes were known to be hijacked, 34 minutes after the second plane hit the Twins, and with Andrews Air Force Base 10 miles away?"

And, after nearly six years,

And, after nearly six years, they could release tapes showing Forrest Gump shaking hands with a Boeing on the Pentagon lawn, should they so desire.

Another issue with the Pentagon...

In my opinion, the REAL issue with the Pentagon is the discrepancy in the flight path and trajectory of the plane. The "physical evidence" via the downed light poles shows a trajectory south of the Citgo gas station. The NTSB reconstruction based on the flight data recorder shows a trajectory north of the Citgo gas station with an altitude that is too high, making it impossible to hit the light poles or even crash into the Pentagon. There are also 3 credible eyewitnesses (SGT Chadwick Brooks, SGT William Lagasse, employee at station) at the gas station that confirm the NTSB reconstruction.

Click on this link and click on the 3rd picture to see what I am talking about. http://9-11.meetup.com/279/photos/?photoAlbumId=153336&photoId=1300185

In addition to this, another valid argument is the incredible amount of time that the plane spent circling around in D.C. air space. These issues dwarf the size of the hole, which is debatable.


excellent point, T-Bone

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Can someone over dub this in english?

We need to get an English version of this show / film.

Unfortunately, apethetic people often consider subtitles a nuissance, and don't really give them a chance.

This could be one of the best presentations the 9/11 truth community has...

Can someone over-dub this film?


I'm really proud to live in this country of Italy, which has produced this extremely well thought video, as good as any video I have seen on the 9/11 topic. My compliments to the authors for having managed to get a piece of this on TV. I'll be signing up at luogocomune immediately.

I like the suggestion to do an English version of this exact same video, and I'm happy to assist with the translation, although technically I have no experience of working with videos.