Sibel Edmonds, George Tenet's Lies, And Al-Qaeda's Nukes


by Luke Ryland
Thu May 03, 2007 at 05:09:20 AM PDT

While we're piling on George Tenet, I wanted to pick up on one particular lie from his 60 Minutes interview.

Tenet says "If al Qaeda were to acquire nuclear capability, the thousands of weapons we have would be irrelevant."

According to previous articles by former FBI translator & whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, Tenet's statement appears to be a lie.

In Sibel's Nov 06 blockbuster article "The Highjacking of a Nation" where she outlines her case for all to see, she writes:

"Here is what CIA Director Porter Goss said bluntly before the Senate Intelligence Committee in February 2004,

"It may be only a matter of time before Al Qaeda or other groups attempt to use chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons. We must focus on that."

And we know that he knows; has known for the longest time!"

I asked Sibel if that means what I thought she means - that al Qaeda has nuclear weapons - and she confirmed that's what she meant. (Granted, Sibel's definition of al Qaeda sometimes appear to diverge from what is commonly known as 'al Qaeda.' I'll have more on that in a later post).

If ex-CIA Director Porter Goss has known this 'for the longest time' - then ex-CIA Director George Tenet surely must also know the same. So we know Tenet is lying about that. And that's troubling.

Of course, when we're dealing with Sibel Edmonds' case, there's so much that's troubling...

It's troubling to know that al Qaeda has nukes. It's troubling to know that at least two CIA Directors, Tenet and Goss, are lying about what they know. It's troubling that al Qaeda got these nukes with the help of people in the US government. It's troubling that the US government agencies (FBI, CIA) have known about this all along, and done nothing about it. (see here for supporting documentation)

In other Sibel news, we still haven't had an answer from Waxman's office regarding "Let Sibel Edmonds Speak" - our call for new public hearings into her case. It looks like we'll have some new content to work off toward the end of next week - and we'll use that to put pressure on Waxman again. I'll keep you posted. (let me know if you want to get on my mailing list for whenever I have new Sibel-related news)

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Great post here John. Sibel's story is frightening. I'm working on a short video (3-5 minutes) about her story at the moment. I'm trying to assemble about a dozen short talking points to get her message out. I'd appreciate any of your insights and I'd gladly give you a credit. But I must warn you, I'm gearing the video towards the pop-political set. I'm interested in capitalizing on Sibel Edmonds physical appeal (she's hot). I think it might be a good angle to get pop-political types more interestead. Any help is appreciated.

my summary of the main

my summary of the main issues is here

feel free to contact me, and i'll check your 'talking points' if you like

thanks lukery

I've checked out you blog before. I'll put together a list of talking points and a rundown of the video. If you have a minute I'd appreciate your feedback. I'll email you.

Word of caution:

I have asked repeatedly... REPEATEDLY... for Sibel and the creators of KTM (the french-made film now brimming with hype before its release)... to simply defuse the paralyzing issue of ill-information (accidental or intentional) IF ONLY by simply acknowledging that it exists, and that "the subjects and creators tried their 'darndest' to root it out".

I am completely disgusted by the sustained silence I have received every time I've tried to raise this very important matter with Sibel and the frenchmen. At this point in time, in light of Moyer's recent undercut of David Rose (Vanity Fair, "Iraq war drummer" turned "Sibel Champion")...

... I guess I have my answer for now.


"Paralyzing issue of ill-information" are you referring to?

In regards to Rose, Sibel did not dispute any of his writings (to my knowledge).

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Help me figure this out...

I say this is NOT specifically about Sibel... per se... yet...

David Rose is in the process of being torn asunder for his hawkish-government stenography (at best) and/or personal war-lust (at worst)... and he's smack in the middle of 'a big story bout to break wide open', where his position on the government is a 180. Fine, I don't mind that he's changed his mind... but it's going to be a hugungus distraction away from Sibel if KTM (as it is) hits America.

He was deeply embeded into Sibel's story BEFORE he might/could/would have known that he migth/could/would eventually be dragged out for fiasco-Iraqo.

WTF? Why would nobody I've talked to about this, utter a single word in response?

Something stinks to high heaven.

Check your email...


Check yours.

If you want to do this exchange in public, Jon... I'm game.

(btw dear people... Jon and I are NOT arguing each other... we are simply exercising some care in what is said allowed)


Is legitmately concerned that David Rose, a reporter that helped to sell the Iraq War, will be used against Sibel when her documentary, "Kill The Messenger" comes out. David was the one to write about her in a Sept. 2005 issue of Vanity Fair. He revealed things like Dennis Hastert receiving suitcases of drug money tied to Al-Qaeda. He referenced the American Turkish Council as being a corrupt organization, etc...

He also is "knee-deep" involved in her documentary.

To my knowledge (and Erin's), Sibel has never refuted what David reported on. Even when they appeared together on Amy Goodman's "Democracy Now."

Also, Sibel's story was around long before David Rose started to investigate it. If you were to take out David Rose's reporting, her story is STILL ridiculously incriminating.

That being said, his being associated with Sibel might hurt. Then again, the bain of our existence has been that everyone attacks the messenger, and ignores the message.

Business as usual.

I do understand Erin's concerns though.

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Thanks Jon, for helping with the words...

Jon is spot on with the chronology of; Sible first, THEN David globing on.

Forgive me people... I'm just a bit testy with a bad case of "I told ya so"s. I know it's a stupid, selfish shortcoming and petty. I'll try better.

I'll get over it.

So we're all ready to hold David to the coals when the spotlights come out... right?


If they start calling him on it...

Then I'm going to start calling him on it, and ask him to explain his actions. However, if they persist on bringing up his credibility, without addressing the issues at hand, then I have a prediction...

I'm going to be REALLY pissed off.

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And I'll be with you on that...

... so long as we're clear-headed on what has us pissed off.

I must also point out, that even my friend Mathieu, the investigative journalist/director of KTM and other EXCELLENT films... is going to have to cough up some answers too. I specifically and repeatedly asked him to address this, and even suggested several ways to nullify (in advance) such a development "should it arise"... and he fell mute.

Mathieu... I noticed you've never been too keen with talking substantively about 911, and I must say even though I doubt you're reading this, that's a double mark against you... my dear brother.

I wish us all the best.

From Sibel...

I sent her this...


Could you enlighten me as to what he's referring to? Also, do you dispute anything written by David Rose for the Vanity Fair piece?

Hope all is well.

Jon Gold

She responded with...

Hello Jon,

For that false/awful Iraq article, David Rose publicly accepted full responsibility, shame, and he apologized for it profusely.

As far as his article on my case goes: he did a good job. Some stuff were cut out due to Vanity Fair editing (to make it shorter, etc.); but Rose was factual/accurate.


That's good enough for me.

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I think that SIbel's main criticism of Rose (and VF) is that he chose not to include a lot of information that he had.

(at least per Ellsberg -

Sibel Edmonds

is one of the keys to 9/11, and the people who are downvoting this blog are just being dicks. Grow up. Find somewhere else to troll.


Can be done about it. I've had blogs about first responders voted down. I've had blogs about family members voted down. Some people just don't like what I have to say.

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Jon, when did Sibel start working for the FBI?

I don't know this, and the debunkingsteins over at JREF think her testimony means nothing because they claim she wasn't working for the FBI until after 9/11.

The master class has always declared the wars; the subject class has always fought the battles.


Doesn't mean anything. The documents she was translating went all the way back into the 90's. She was hired sometime after 9/11, but I don't remember the exact date. I think it was in November.

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September 20th, 2001

"Quixotic", was the word of the day on

Mike. It also "matters" this way: Even though she stepped aboard after 911, she claims to have been heavily tasked with translating a severe backlog of prior surveillance from long ongoing investigations... far afield and predating "911"-proper.

It just so happens that we live on a single planet where going west can also land you in the East.


I've gotten to the point where my brain has to make room for all of the information, so it compresses the older stuff it into hard to access blocks of memory to make room for the new stuff. When I cite from memory, I OFTEN get things wrong.

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Take care of yourself, Jon.

Your brain could be worth twice its weight in Gold.

Measured in post-FRN collapse Dollars... you're talking mega-bucks.

I correct myself...

I was just in the process of looking it up.

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Thanks guys, you're on My MVP list

It's got many names and you all are valuable sources of information.

"Measured in post-FRN collapse Dollars... you're talking mega-bucks".
That one got Me the coke through the nose laugh today.

The master class has always declared the wars; the subject class has always fought the battles.