Robin Hordon and David Ray Griffin appeared on Carol Brouillet's show last night. Griffin was on air for just a few minutes, plugging his new book; most of the show was Hordon's. For those who are not familiar with Robin Hordon, he is an ex-pilot and ex-flight controller (fired when he went on strike during the Reagan years). Robin Hordon is very level-headed and it seems to me he brings a number of valid points to the debate. He explains in detail how the scramble protocols used to work, how they were changed in June 2001 and exactly what effect it had on the morning of 9-11. He also discusses what the FAA would normally do in the case of a hijacking, and what they were doing on 9-11.

Hordon also discusses the wargames, and how they would affect procedures that day (according to Hordon, they wouldn't). Plenty of other interesting stuff from a guy who knows first-hand how air traffic control works.

The show is already available as a podcast:

1st hour
http://xml.wtprn.com/Brouillet/0705/20070507_Mon_Brouillet1.mp3
2nd hour
http://xml.wtprn.com/Brouillet/0705/20070507_Mon_Brouillet2.mp3
(7 megs each)

For a more condensed version of what Hordon is saying, perhaps easier to follow, try his earlier appearance:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/visibility911/visibility911_hordon.mp3