If they bring those popular mechanics neo-cons i cant watch it, it will make me sick, i just cant do it.
James Meigs and Elizabeth Hazzelback both need to be charged with treason and conspiracy to cover up mass murder and given a life sentence.
The people in prison should know they are a bunch of lyers helping to protect the murderers who killed 28000 new yorkers, and is giving the enemy more power to kill more people in another 911.
James Meigs should be killed in prison after being beaten daily for 1 week.
Liz needs her ass kicked every week in prison for life.
Theres some justice for starters.
THESE "THINGS" ARE NOT HUMAN
sleepy2k23 (not verified) on Mon, 05/14/2007 - 12:49pm.
at first I thought that Liz was just a Fox News brainwashed ditz. but now shes bringing up Popular Mechanics and Meigs. the neo-cons obviously got to her and told her to say that. she is "one-of-them" now. it seems like Rosie has done some investigating and is very informed. now she needs to call-out Liz and tell everyone who she works for, and what she's doing. its treasonous.......Great Job Rosie!!! Don't stop, don't ever stop.
"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th;
malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty."
Rosie is attracted to women, Liz is an attractive woman. Haven't we all at some point cut someone some slack because they were cute? If Liz worked in your office, and behaved like a nice person around the water cooler, wouldn't she be harder to hate than Dick Cheney?
Joy said that Rudy Giuliani is dropping in the polls and is trailing current NYC Michael Bloomberg, even though Bloomberg has not declared that he is running for president. Joy said that part of the problem is that it is coming out that Giulian made mistakes during 9/11. Rosie pointed out that Giuliani made sure that all of the steel from WTC was shipped to China right away. Elisabeth asked Rosie if Giuliani is part of some cover-up and then there was an awkward silence. The camera was not on Rosie, so I am not sure what reaction she had. Then Elisabeth moved on to talk about Giuliani's chances of winning the nomination .
They also talked again about the illnesses plaguing the first responders and how not enough is being done to help them. Scientologists are doing a detox for some of them and Elisabeth said that it is apparently working for some of them.
Joy said that after WTC was attacked in 1993, the command control center should have been moved out of WTC because it was obviously a target. Rosie pointed out that the command control center was in WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane, but "mysteriously collapsed at 5:30 p.m." Rosie says there was molten steel under all three buildings. Elisabeth said that the other two buildings falling down could have created enough force to bring down WTC 7, which had been weakened by internal fires. Rosie said that it took 9 seconds for the building to fall into itself and that is the same amount of time it would have taken for something to free-fall from the top of the building. Joy and Elisabeth both said that they should get experts on the show to talk about it .
[QUOTE=nobodyinparticular,May 14 2007, 03:54 PM] I can confirm - Rosie spent several minutes arguing first about Giuliani's decision to base the OEM in WTC7, moving on to a discussion about why it collapsed, and it was interesting that Rosie brought up not only the three pools of molten metal, but also the freefall speed of the *Twin Towers*, followed by this question of getting scientists on to debate this. The clip will surely surface soon. Nice to see she is willing to include the Twin Towers in her comments now, not just WTC7. [/QUOTE]
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This is B.S.! Yeah, maybe they do have a point that it does drain their system but I have a feeling that is a damn good excuse to cut off exposure of alternative views from our soldiers. They are trapped over there, this is one of the ways they can connect and taking away these particular sites is going to seriously hurt their moral. I feel for them. TOTAL B.S.!
Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers will be the guest on Truth Revolution Radio tonight. We will also be joined by Johnny Wave USMC tonight and on Wednesday night's show.
I came up with this on Friday night the 11th after the visibility action here in San Diego. I was researching what the larger visible "squibs" were and I think I had an epiphany. The Hat Trusses. I think the very large squibs were the demolition explosions from the destruction of the hat trusses. I e-mailed this to STJ911.org to get their take. I'm no expert, so I thought I would get the expert's opinion. Thanks for what you do!
they started out by talking about Giuliani and im pretty sure it was actually Joy who started to talk about how the first responders were being ignored and she went on to say that everyone told Rudy not to put the command center in the towers and Rosie corrected her and said it was actually in WTC7 which wasnt hit by a plane and had small fires. from there she went on to fire off molten steel in the basements of the towers, near free fall speed etc. that moron Hasselbeck(fresh off of another White House dinner. seriously.) tried her best to shill for the official story going so far as to say she wanted to have Popular Mechanics on.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
you see Rudy, you scumbag, this is what happens when you endlessly tie yourself to 9/11. people like us come along to REALLY tie you to 9/11. may it never end until he goes back into the profit-from-terror business in the private sector.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
I just watched Rosie's comments on the View re WTC 7. She hit most of the major points concerning the "collapse" of the towers. Freefall, molten pools of metal, no plane hitting WTC 7, etc. Elizabeth Hasselbeck (is that her name?) tried to defend the official version by claiming WTC 7 fell due to weakened steel, not melted. She went on to say that steel begins to weaken at 275 degrees, which reminds me, I'm warming up a pizza... I better go shut off my oven before it collapses. Poor girl... so cute yet so ditzy!
I'll see if I can upload to YouTube in the next couple of hours.
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Liz is married to some football player and she and her hubby were recently at a white house dinner with Peyton Manning, Dubya, and a few others. Gee whiz!
Some may have noticed a wholly off topic post about World of Warcraft on a recent post having to do with Giuliani. What do people know about this kind of selective spamming occasionally targetting 9/11 truth oriented posts on random blogs? On one Harvard blog that I posted to, the comments keep getting hit with one word posts like "Grom", and most recently "mistake". Now I may be imagining things, but is this possibly a way that trolls mark threads for attention by... someone?
No explanation other than CD fits. PERIOD. Near free-fall speed, perfect symmetry, pulverization of concrete, segmenting of steel, molten metal, thermite residue in dust, iron spheres...
Most of the mass of the building (steel/concrete) was either ejected outside the profile of the building or pulverized to dust and suspended in the air. SO WHAT MASS IS LEFT OVER TO "PILE-DRIVE" THE BUILDING INTO THE GROUND?!?!?! How does "creep" account for all these features? It doesn't. They are fucked.
"Creep" or no "creep", they are still saddled to a gravity driven collapse. Explain all the observed phenomena using the gravity hypothesis, NIST. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You're pathetic, and you're going to pay for your crimes as accessories after the fact!!! Every time you come forward with some silly garbage like this "creep" nonsense, you're just compounding and complicating your lies! Keep it up!! The only way to cover a lie is with more lies. Eventually the stench of your lies will become so great, that even flies and roaches wouldn't enjoy your company.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
So there is another source for the energy for the things you describe. So we hypothesise that this energy is explosive kinetic energy, and we support this hypothesis with the observations you describe
Creep in the NIST report is their way of accounting for this other source of energy, that is through Castigliano's Theorem, which is to do with beams storing potential energy as they deform when a force is applied. The potential energy is released when the force is removed e.g. in a catastrophic failure.
Now I think this is obviously far fetched, but believers in the official yarn believe this. Creep is important to them because this is their mechanism for storing energy (like a spring) which is released in the catastrophic failure.
If there is no creep then there is no energy storage leading up to the collapse and so the CD Hypothesis strengthened.
So just another nail in the coffin of NIST. The more nails the better!
Less likelihood of a resurrection!
So Castigliano's Theorem accounds for 4000+ pound beams being thrown over 300 feet laterally??? Ok, NIST, lets see some calculations to rationalize that miracle. Does anyone believe that massive structural steel is going to go *BOING* like a spring??? I know materials behave differently in huge structures, but this is far fetched to say the least. Why have we NEVER observed this phenomenon before, NIST? "One-off" phenomena are considered fairy tales by the scientific method.
What does Castigliano's Theorem have to say about the symmetry, and speed, and thermate residue, and iron spheres, and molten metal, and WHAT MASS CRUSHES THE BUILDING WHEN IT IS NEARLY ALL EJECTED AWAY OR PULVERIZED AND SUSPENDED IN AIR??? And Building 7?
Even if there is "creep" where does the energy storage come from? Simply physical deformation of the steel? No new mass is being added to the structure, so supposed energy storage could ONLY be coming from deformation. Even if structural steel could go *BOING*, wouldn't this require massive and HIGHLY VISIBLE deformation of the 200 outer columns before they could store enough energy to launch 300 feet laterally!?!?
Let them present their pre-school hypotheses. Then real scientists will make fools of them in short order.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Claim: Silverstein Warned Not To Come To Work On 9/11
9/11 truth activist says security guards spilled beans, while one gets fired for calling in a false bomb threat to frame demonstrators
New York 9/11 truth activist Luke Rudkowski claims WTC complex owner Larry Silverstein and his daughter got a warning on the morning of 9/11 not to come to work that day - his source? - Silverstein's own security guards.
Rudkowski and his protest group We Are Change protested Silverstein outside the new WTC 7 building last month and were confronted by Silverstein's security entourage who proceeded to harass the group before calling in a fake bomb threat to the NYPD in an attempt to have the demonstrators arrested.
"We talked to their private security staff, we talked to people who were there with Larry on 9/11 - they said he got a phone call telling him not to show up to work and he called his daughter up and his daughter also never showed up to work," Rudkowski told a radio show this past weekend.
Obviously, Silverstein arrived later in the day but the claim that he was given foreknowledge of an incident at the World Trade Center before the first plane had crashed is a bombshell revelation, perhaps even shadowing his infamous "pull it" comment.
In addition, it has since come to light that one of the thug security guards who intimidated We Are Change protesters during a demonstration outside the new WTC 7 and called in a false bomb threat to frame the group, was recently fired by Silverstein Properties.
Rudkowski is now seeking legal representation to explore a possible lawsuit against the security guard, who also threatened the activists with "30 days in the hole" as well as claiming their cell phones were guns and that the wires coming out of their bags were bombs.
Rudkowski is of the opinion that Silverstein Properties promptly fired the security guard in an attempt to offset potential litigation.
Chris, you chide me for "bashing" AJ for no good reason. Well here we go again. AJ mentions Larry telling the WSJ about his doctor's appointment as if it had something to do with this story about security guards. I need to find the old interview clip, but Silverstein has been using this excuse of his wife making him a dermatologist appointment for a long time now.
Silverstein would have needed no warning--this sounds like someone trying to make it seem like Silverstein was in the dark about the demolition of his property. Wow, Chris. Just wow.
whos obsessed? whos following who? see a few threads below, im done with this argument. how does this make it seem like he was in the dark? he owns the fucking property, if it was demolished he obviously knew, appointment or not. Wow RT, you sure are reaching. Just wow.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Like I said, pretending that Silverstein needed a warning makes it seem like he had no idea about the planned demolitions. I've heard other people on this site suggest quite seriously that Silverstein may not have known about the demolitions and quite frankly I'd be stunned if that were the case. Call it reaching if you like, I think the stink is growing stronger everyday.
works for Silverstein.... and that I must have an agenda of some kind. fair enough, except that of course I never said Luke worked for Silverstein I just take issue with this claim that Silverstein's security guards would be telling him that Larry was warned about the destruction of his buildings on 9/11 because that claim makes no sense. maybe Luke is being used, I don't know. but since you think I have an agenda, maybe you can tell me who it is I'm supposed to be working for. go ahead, write me a paper about it like you've asked me to do about AJ. whatever. I've made my point and absolutely will not take any more bait from you. When you post something I disagree with I will say so and leave it at that.
bait? you started on me. check the time stamps. here are your words about Luke and what you think of him:
"So far all I know about this guy Luke is that he accused Zbginiew Brezinski of having carried out the 9/11 attacks, that he walked around new york advertising John Conner aka Mark Dice's website and that now he has allegedly been told by Silverstein's security guards that Larry was warned not to go to work on 9/11.
and now Alex Jones is helpinghim promote this story. I don't know if it IS in fact a duck, but it sure is starting to walk and quack like one, sorry."
i dont need to add anything else about that. you work for Harvard. as to what your true agenda is? it may be the truth, it probably is based on what ive seen but you are pretty reckless and disrespectful sometimes. and very quick to cry disinfo. those who cast the first stone blah blah blah. is Rosie "in on it" too RT? and RT, you dont even have to write a paper, just answer the fucking question one time if thats possible. i'll stop asking though, you dont seem willing or able to.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
But when people ask me things like - so who DO you think so and so is working for if in fact he is disinfo? Don't you think it would be pretty stupid of me to answer that question honestly, given that it would potentially be telling someone working for the perps what I do or don't know? Why would I give out that kind of information, whether I had it or not? I think people can come to their own conclusions, and what I think is for me to know. Please, people, don't be paranoid, but don't be foolish either. When people seem overly keen to have you reveal something it's better to evade the question or lie. The powers that be hunger for info about what's going on--mess with their minds--it's fun!
"When people seem overly keen to have you reveal something it's better to evade the question or lie."
this started as simple question that you failed to answer. you again fail to answer it and base that on me wanting to know an answer? wow. do your muscles hurt from twisting so fucking much? do you think you are that important that your opinion on who ALex Jones works for matters to whoever may or may not be watching this website? is that what your saying? unless of course you think IM that important and that I work for the perps . then i would understand why you wouldnt want to answer such a simple question. if thats the case then im flattered.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
but wait! it seems like i FINALLY got a straight answer out of you! inadvertandly is better than nothing i guess. Alex Jones works for Larry Silverstein. of course!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
someone reporting on the possible creation of an alibi, which is EXPLICITLY STATED in the article is twisted into running cover for Silverstein in your eyes. fucking just wow indeed RT. maybe the both of us would be better off if we didnt argue this subject? you always fail to give specifics anyway and we clearly have fundamental differences on it. i will just add that YOU were the one saying that i always bring it up(call you on it). not this time buddy.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
What he is reporting is the fact that Silverstein's own guards confessed that he was warned not to go to work to some 9/11 truth activists who they were also harassing. That makes sense to you? Why on earth would they do such a thing? The mention of the alibi about the doctor's appointment is not what the story is about, since that has been his alibi for as long as anyone knows. What does seem interesting is the way that the Wall Street Journal, a shill publication if there is one, conveniently published this alibi to remind everyone of it around the same time that a very odd claim is made that he had been warned. We are also seeing this bizarre "gash" story about WTC7 being thrown around, and all of this is happening as Rosie O'Donnell is focusing people's attention on WTC7. Now could it be that just as interest is peaking NIST will reveal the findings of its latest outsourced study on WTC7? And that those findings will talk about the gash ripped into 7 by "falling debris"? And that "conspiracy theorists" who go around saying that Silverstein was warned are no different than those who say that every OTHER Jew was warned not to go to work? And that in fact what has the conspiracy theorists all riled up is the secrecy surrounding 9/11, which has had the sole purpose of covering up the fact that Bush had his friends in Pakistan arrange all the hijackings and who knows maybe even put explosives in the towers? And that Larry obviously had no idea of what the evil Muzzle-ims and their friend Bush had in store for his property? I sure as hell wasn't born THAT recently, nor do I have any need for used bridges, thank you very much. Oh yeah, I know, I'm a raving and paranoid conspiracy theorist for thinking there may actually be a cover up goin on here!
the mention of the alibi is not what the story is about but it is pretty interesting how you found the need to leave that out. i wonder why? everyone is working for Silverstein. i dont know why it took you this long to admit who you think Alex Jones is running cover/working for. i mean, you still havent really answered that question yet but after this its pretty clear. we know what YOU take from the article. what do you think the average person reading it will take from it? they probably wont reach the same conclusions(its a big scheme to cover Larry Silversteins ass) as you, thats for sure. but i realize you have an agenda so i understand.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
and time that his WTC would be attacked/imploded. Who knows at what point & exactly by whom the green light was given to go ahead on the morning of 9/11??? The old schmuck could well have needed a warning & pretext not to go there that day!!!
if you don't find it odd that Silverstein's own security guards would be confessing to a 9/11 activist of all people that Larry was warned not to come to work, that's fine. I however find it extremely bizarre. So far all I know about this guy Luke is that he accused Zbginiew Brezinski of having carried out the 9/11 attacks, that he walked around new york advertising John Conner aka Mark Dice's website and that now he has allegedly been told by Silverstein's security guards that Larry was warned not to go to work on 9/11.
and now Alex Jones is helpinghim promote this story. I don't know if it IS in fact a duck, but it sure is starting to walk and quack like one, sorry.
so Luke works for Silverstein too right? the lawsuit and the whole thing was just a ruse right? a ruse to bring attention to WTC7?!? see the logic there? its a little bit twisted. or agenda driven.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
And if tehre is and Larry decides to settle out of court for the fact that his security guard made a false accusation against him then we would have Silverstein giving money to Luke--interesting huh? But go ahead and tell me who I work for, or what my agenda is. I kinda thought it had something to do with finding out the truth about 9/11. But clearly I'm just trying to get poor Lucky Larry in trouble and prevent AJ's sponsors from selling more water filters!
yes, how dare he advertise water filters! the cheap shot would have worked better if you went with the ridiculous anti-aging or religious sponsors he has. AJ isnt someone i regularly agree with, i in fact find many of his conclusions laughable but thats a far cry from working for Larry Silverstein.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
From his home on Park Avenue, he watched the results after the first plane slammed into the north tower. He rushed to his office on Fifth Avenue, from where he saw the second tower hit. He was terrified for the fate of his children, Roger and Lisa, who sometimes worked in his offices at 1 WTC. One of his employees, a woman, who survived by walking down 88 flights of stairs, arrived in the Fifth Avenue office covered in dust. There she found Silverstein shaking in every bone of his body. I see that you're in worse shape than me, she told him.
I know this is based on hearsay. Just putting it out there in regards to Larry receiving a warning, and then warning his children. Would he be "terrified" about his children if he had warned his children not to go to work? No, I am not putting this out there to say Luke is lying. Just putting it out there.
I saw Rosie today she was calm & composed & she also mentioned how 911 the biggest crime scene ever and what did giuliani do w/ the evidence.... ship it to china immediately to be melted down.
Truly! I can't help seeing some sort of mussolini image when see Guiliani speaking. He obviously want to prosecute the Iraq War more efficiently. I think it's great that "Debunking 911 Debunking" has appeared this early in the long, long political season ahead. Lots of truth squad opportunity everywhere and especially so if Guiliani becomes prominent.
Never got around to posting this when I read about it.
Saw this one night on yahoo news' top five stories, then, when I checked it the next day, it was gone.
The U.S. excels at creating patsies. So sick of this stuff.
"CHERRY HILL, N.J. — He railed against the United States, helped scout out military installations for attack, offered to introduce his comrades to an arms dealer, and gave them a list of weapons he could procure, including machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades.
These were not the actions of a terrorist, but of a paid FBI informant who helped bring down an alleged plot by six Muslim men to massacre U.S. soldiers at New Jersey's Fort Dix."
it's so frustrating SEEING this crap for what it is WHEN it happens.
most of boobus america hears the first story about the terrorist plot and then never reads about, or cares about, the follow up articles like THIS one.
Yeah, right. I love how all these "turrists" always put on their scary ski-masks and parade around in front of a camera, and tell their whole plot to the world right before they get caught. What is this, "World's Stupidest Criminals"!?!? Then Faux News always seems to be the first one with the incriminating video. Where did these "turrists" get trained, Dr. Evil's school of Hollywood Villainy? Guys, you're not supposed to give your plot away to the "heros"!!!
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Tomorrow on PBS, at 9pm Eastern (check your local wacky PBS listings), Frontline is running a program called, "Spying on the Home Front".
Here is a good review of the piece, which includes references to the Church Committee, where we first heard about Operation Mockingbird, among other things.
The review states that there are no ground breaking revelations in the piece, but rather it's a concise review of all the information availible, and a reminder of depth of information that is not availible.
A summary from the salon review:
" Put simply, what we do not know about the administration's domestic surveillance activities -- meaning how our own Government spies on us and maintains data bases reflecting our activities on U.S. soil -- vastly outweighs what we do know. But what is beyond doubt is that those activities have increased continuously in the last two decades, and that expansion has accelerated massively since the 9/11 attacks. And not only do "we" -- the citizenry -- know very little about these surveillance activities, the Congress seems to know almost as little, and does not appear to have much of an interest in finding out more, and certainly has evinced little interest in informing the public about these matters. "
I think the best chance questions about the WTC Demolitions have of getting across on a show like the View is getting Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine on the show to talk about their NIST petition. Getting them on the show might be a long shot, but if there's an overwhelming call from all of us to Rosie to get them on the show, it could just happen before she leaves. I've been messaging her everyday to try this, but I think it will take a lot of us for this message to get through to her.
When a 9/11 Family Member talks about Controlled Demolition on National Television, the Network Neocons are gonna go berserk.
Open calls for a New World Order. Plenty of video out there of Bush Sr., Dan Quayle, Bill Clinton, and Gary Hart saying the same. Funny, the requirements of this NWO seem to be police state discipline, spying, and microchips for all, while the elite frolic and rake in unlimited profits. Why does this NWO warrant false flags and wars of agression, Henry?
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I haven't been following his research recently, but I saw a presentation some weeks ago in which he concluded that the WTC steel sample he had analyzed contained thermite (or was it thermate) residue. If someone could tell more about this, how conclusive it is and if it might ever lead to anything, I'd be grateful.
I'll take Sibel Edmonds. He he heh! I'm on a mission! Ever watch "Desperate Housewives" Sibel???
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Sibel is hot (and smart), but when Michelle Malkin smiles, I think she is drop-dead beautiful. Unfortunately, most of the time she is angry and venomous.
"They took it from the top to the bottom, we're gonna take them from the bottom to the top." - Dan Wallace
Rosie, you are awesome. A true hero and patriot. Keep researching and refining your understanding of the facts. Eventually your knowledge, confidence, and ownership of the truth will be impossible for anyone to deny. You're doing a great job now, but push yourself to be even more knowledgeable and descriptive with your words. We are going to do this thing. See if you can get the photo of Johnny Wave aired on the show!!!!!
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Rudy Giuliani: "Freedom is about authority"
Source: New York Times
-What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can
do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about
authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to
cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
Read full article at: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A...
Comment is not mine
COMMENT: No Rudy, Freedom is about LIMITED GOVERNMENT ceding to the
will of the people. Freedom is about citizens "doing" and "being" anything
they like, provided they do not directly violate the inalienable rights
of another.
The "freedom" you speak of; the "lawful authority" that you hide behind
is a farce. It stands in direct opposition to everything this country
was founded on and is, by its very nature UNLAWFUL, unjust, and
undeserving our cooperation or respect.
That is laugh out loud funny. (I did!) Black is white, up is down, shit is breakfast.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Yeah, "Buddy"! You're not going to see me putting down Rosie O'Donnell. I'm quite acquainted with the life and death of Rosa Luxemburg,as well.Heard of her? I have a few heroines out there. Just waiting for you to call some of the commenters over at the Rosie "The view" comments "misogynists". My point the other day was that at the Richard Gage presentation two weeks ago, the average female age must have been 65. I'm not kidding, I sat in the back and looked down upon a sea of grey hair. OK, it was a Friday night and most students in this town have their priorites...
We need military types on our side. Is this the beginning? Does anyone know if any other active duty personnel have made a 9/11 Truth stand? This could snowball. Gen. Batiste made quite a statement through www.votevets.org. I e-mailed them with an URL for "911 Mysteries. Please, more of you go over there and try to get them on our side.
"Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do. " -Rudy Giuliani
Scary stuff-thanks for the post!
More scary stuff- UV Alert for S. Oregon, all Ca., to Montana, W. Nebraska, W. Texas-Four Corners region will be at the an index of "10" in the next few days. Go to: www.epa.gov/sunwise/uvindex.html#map
And does your newspaper warn you? Well, there is that little inch-square part of the weather page.
I see a lot of insults directed at Elizabeth Hasselbeck. You dissed all women under 50 ("What, your brains don't work until you're fifty?") or in other words, you dissed a whole class of people. You support Rosie and you have other heroines -- cool. Don't take it personally, but I typically say something when someone is demeaning to a whole group of people (I get tetchy about "fag," too.)
Zero Investigation News - Inchiesta sull'11 settembre News 13.05.07
Dario Fo, Nobel Prize for Literature, started working together with the team of "Zero"
Very important news for us all and for everyone who is supporting our work: Dario Fo, Nobel Prize for Literature in 1997, ha started working togheter with the team of “Zero – Investigation on 9/11”.
Dario Fo, with the researchers of the movie, is studing all the details of the official version on the facts of september 11th 2001, and he is checking the depositions gathered during the investigation so far. While the movie has already been edited in a rough copy, other possible interventions are now considered.
His participation gives us more visibility and support in Italy and abroad.
The investigation is going stronger and more important: trusting in this new level of certainty, we invite all those people who don't believe in the official report and who want to know what really happened on 9-11 to contribute to the investigation production.
It is possible to make a donation using Paypal and your credit card.
Or you can become a co-producer purchasing a share or a percentage of share. You can read the contract here.
Has anybody been tracking the Caryle Group's acquisitions downunder?
In the last two months they have bought into the New Zealand Herald (#1 broadsheet in NZ) and channel ten in Australia (one of the three main commercial channels).
Recently the government in Australia further de-regulated media to allow Murdoch and co to continue to tighten their grip on media and information.
What about Murdoch's tilt at Down Jones and the Wall Street Journal? Is anyone worried about that? Why isn't anyone talking about this?
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Our political system will not radically change for the better save some catalyzing event, such as exposing 911 as an inside job
Anyone know the latest on the Jersey Girls Petition? I thought I heard that they finally got the 15,000 sigs they wanted. Jon Gold would be happy as hell about this I imagine. The link is no longer working, so I thought maybe it got taken down? Couldn't find any updates on Google regarding it.
A solid piece of evidence is the video recording of the woman construction worker who was injured in the basement explosions and was the first person admitted into the hospital as a 911 victim. I believe it was Dan Rather who interviewed her and tried to blame the explosions she testified about on the collapse of the tower. But if her admittance time was before the collapse it verifies William Rodiguez's accounts. In that interview she said she was taken to the hospital about forty minuets after she was injured. That would be before the collapse occurred If I have my timeline correct.
This seem clear to me, however, I have not seen it brought up by anyone anywhere. I am hoping this is old info to all of you.
Great News!!
I cant wait for the footage. Expect Hit pieces All week from Glenn beck, James Meigs, Erica Hill, Joe Scumbag, O reilly, Insanity and Colmes.
PLEASE RECORD All these shows Via DVR So we can see the hit pieces!!
I expect this from rosie now til she is done from the view. She wont let us down!!
Popular Mechanics
Elizabeth was saying how if anybody should go on the view, it should be james meigs from popular mechanics.
Looks like Liz supports her government murdering 28000 people on 911, (3000 911 25000 toxic dust)
Liz just sold her soul to the devil, Shes going to hell too
ALSO:
If they bring those popular mechanics neo-cons i cant watch it, it will make me sick, i just cant do it.
James Meigs and Elizabeth Hazzelback both need to be charged with treason and conspiracy to cover up mass murder and given a life sentence.
The people in prison should know they are a bunch of lyers helping to protect the murderers who killed 28000 new yorkers, and is giving the enemy more power to kill more people in another 911.
James Meigs should be killed in prison after being beaten daily for 1 week.
Liz needs her ass kicked every week in prison for life.
Theres some justice for starters.
THESE "THINGS" ARE NOT HUMAN
i agree...
at first I thought that Liz was just a Fox News brainwashed ditz. but now shes bringing up Popular Mechanics and Meigs. the neo-cons obviously got to her and told her to say that. she is "one-of-them" now. it seems like Rosie has done some investigating and is very informed. now she needs to call-out Liz and tell everyone who she works for, and what she's doing. its treasonous.......Great Job Rosie!!! Don't stop, don't ever stop.
"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th;
malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty."
-George W. Bush November 11, 2001
Yup!
Liz is one of them
sure, or she's just dumb
Remember Rosie says they're very friendly off-air.... hmmmmm... very strange!
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Not strange to me
Rosie is attracted to women, Liz is an attractive woman. Haven't we all at some point cut someone some slack because they were cute? If Liz worked in your office, and behaved like a nice person around the water cooler, wouldn't she be harder to hate than Dick Cheney?
THE VIEW RECAP - MAY 14TH
This site recaps each "The View" show within hours the same day it airs!
http://www.watchingtheview.com/may-14th-recap-lee-woodruff-and-ali-larte...
Joy said that Rudy Giuliani is dropping in the polls and is trailing current NYC Michael Bloomberg, even though Bloomberg has not declared that he is running for president. Joy said that part of the problem is that it is coming out that Giulian made mistakes during 9/11. Rosie pointed out that Giuliani made sure that all of the steel from WTC was shipped to China right away. Elisabeth asked Rosie if Giuliani is part of some cover-up and then there was an awkward silence. The camera was not on Rosie, so I am not sure what reaction she had. Then Elisabeth moved on to talk about Giuliani's chances of winning the nomination .
They also talked again about the illnesses plaguing the first responders and how not enough is being done to help them. Scientologists are doing a detox for some of them and Elisabeth said that it is apparently working for some of them.
Joy said that after WTC was attacked in 1993, the command control center should have been moved out of WTC because it was obviously a target. Rosie pointed out that the command control center was in WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane, but "mysteriously collapsed at 5:30 p.m." Rosie says there was molten steel under all three buildings. Elisabeth said that the other two buildings falling down could have created enough force to bring down WTC 7, which had been weakened by internal fires. Rosie said that it took 9 seconds for the building to fall into itself and that is the same amount of time it would have taken for something to free-fall from the top of the building. Joy and Elisabeth both said that they should get experts on the show to talk about it .
Confirmation.
[QUOTE=nobodyinparticular,May 14 2007, 03:54 PM] I can confirm - Rosie spent several minutes arguing first about Giuliani's decision to base the OEM in WTC7, moving on to a discussion about why it collapsed, and it was interesting that Rosie brought up not only the three pools of molten metal, but also the freefall speed of the *Twin Towers*, followed by this question of getting scientists on to debate this. The clip will surely surface soon. Nice to see she is willing to include the Twin Towers in her comments now, not just WTC7. [/QUOTE]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q9nRs8cu5Y&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthaction...
You Tube
Rosie, Joy & Liz discuss Rudy, 9/11 and WTC 7...
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Nice Chris!
Actions of May 11
I'm still compiling all the reports, pictures and video from Friday.
In progress: Actions of May 11
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Our soldiers overseas will be blocked from viewing YouTube,
MySpace, etc.
There are new 9/11 truth videos coming out regularly on those sites, & that's probably a main reason they will be blocked by the military leaders.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/internet/05/14/military.sites.blocked.ap/in...
P.S. The Rosie news sounds fantastic! I wish I had watched it today! Can anyone post details please?
Total control
This is B.S.! Yeah, maybe they do have a point that it does drain their system but I have a feeling that is a damn good excuse to cut off exposure of alternative views from our soldiers. They are trapped over there, this is one of the ways they can connect and taking away these particular sites is going to seriously hurt their moral. I feel for them. TOTAL B.S.!
Just throwing it out there...
The army has been burned recently by soldiers releasing their own personal videos on youtube and myspace.
Perhaps this is an effort to prevent them spreading information as much as it is an effort to prevent them from receiving information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUg-bdE7M70
They'll have to block liveleak too
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5db_1179037389
Richard Gage and Johnny Wave on TRR tonight
Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers will be the guest on Truth Revolution Radio tonight. We will also be joined by Johnny Wave USMC tonight and on Wednesday night's show.
Listen live 9 PM Pacific - 12 Midnight EDT
TRR Archive
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Cosmos, your show ROCKS!
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Thanks man!
I'm glad you like it.
btw that's supposed to read Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
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Hey Cosmos...
Can you ask Richard Gage tonight what he thinks about this?: http://photos2.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/3/c/f/2/highres_1395602.jpeg
I came up with this on Friday night the 11th after the visibility action here in San Diego. I was researching what the larger visible "squibs" were and I think I had an epiphany. The Hat Trusses. I think the very large squibs were the demolition explosions from the destruction of the hat trusses. I e-mailed this to STJ911.org to get their take. I'm no expert, so I thought I would get the expert's opinion. Thanks for what you do!
Hey T-Bone
We probably won't talk about it on the show but I will pass this on to him right now. Thanks!
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Thanks!
they started out by talking
they started out by talking about Giuliani and im pretty sure it was actually Joy who started to talk about how the first responders were being ignored and she went on to say that everyone told Rudy not to put the command center in the towers and Rosie corrected her and said it was actually in WTC7 which wasnt hit by a plane and had small fires. from there she went on to fire off molten steel in the basements of the towers, near free fall speed etc. that moron Hasselbeck(fresh off of another White House dinner. seriously.) tried her best to shill for the official story going so far as to say she wanted to have Popular Mechanics on.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
"fresh off of another White House dinner"
Yeah, wasn't that a dinner with the 'Queen' of England?
I found the timing of her (the Queen's) stop in Virginia a little more than curious.
oh smack
that's right--it was the NFL folks AND the Queen of England... bizarre enough for ya? hey, didn't she knight Sir Rudy the prescient?
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you see Rudy, you scumbag,
you see Rudy, you scumbag, this is what happens when you endlessly tie yourself to 9/11. people like us come along to REALLY tie you to 9/11. may it never end until he goes back into the profit-from-terror business in the private sector.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
HA!
Right On! It makes me sick when he brings up 911! It is going to bite him in the a**!
Rosie on WTC 7
I just watched Rosie's comments on the View re WTC 7. She hit most of the major points concerning the "collapse" of the towers. Freefall, molten pools of metal, no plane hitting WTC 7, etc. Elizabeth Hasselbeck (is that her name?) tried to defend the official version by claiming WTC 7 fell due to weakened steel, not melted. She went on to say that steel begins to weaken at 275 degrees, which reminds me, I'm warming up a pizza... I better go shut off my oven before it collapses. Poor girl... so cute yet so ditzy!
I'll see if I can upload to YouTube in the next couple of hours.
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LOL!!!
Collapsing oven. Brilliant! Thanks for the laugh.
International Truth Movement
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Well, if you 'd add a little
Well, if you 'd add a little sulfur to the pizza you get pizz-ate and this slices through steel like a hot knife through butter ;-)
from NFL news
Liz is married to some football player and she and her hubby were recently at a white house dinner with Peyton Manning, Dubya, and a few others. Gee whiz!
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Interesting Rosie speaks out
Interesting Rosie speaks out again on the day after Chris matthews gave giuliani a hard time yesterday morning about the bunker in wtc7
ARTICLE
And then there are these 2 recent developments.....
....it appears that "Hookergate" may soon go mainstream and implicate Cheney....see these recent reports by Wayne Madsen:
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
And this report of an "active generals' revolt", if the surge isn't reversed:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/13/generals-revolt/
Some anti-Neo-Con countervailing forces at work, taking the gloves off the media perhaps?
Odd sort of spamming
Some may have noticed a wholly off topic post about World of Warcraft on a recent post having to do with Giuliani. What do people know about this kind of selective spamming occasionally targetting 9/11 truth oriented posts on random blogs? On one Harvard blog that I posted to, the comments keep getting hit with one word posts like "Grom", and most recently "mistake". Now I may be imagining things, but is this possibly a way that trolls mark threads for attention by... someone?
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Looks like NIST are lying (yet again)
Was there creep in WTC1 in the lead up to the collapse?
The NIST report says there was. They support this claim with the testimony of a guy in a helicopter and an un-timed photograph.
We set out to see if we could observe creep in the tower before it collapses we found none.
http://zkt.blackfish.org.uk/119/Creep_WTC1.pdf
Doesn't matter...
No explanation other than CD fits. PERIOD. Near free-fall speed, perfect symmetry, pulverization of concrete, segmenting of steel, molten metal, thermite residue in dust, iron spheres...
Most of the mass of the building (steel/concrete) was either ejected outside the profile of the building or pulverized to dust and suspended in the air. SO WHAT MASS IS LEFT OVER TO "PILE-DRIVE" THE BUILDING INTO THE GROUND?!?!?! How does "creep" account for all these features? It doesn't. They are fucked.
"Creep" or no "creep", they are still saddled to a gravity driven collapse. Explain all the observed phenomena using the gravity hypothesis, NIST. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You're pathetic, and you're going to pay for your crimes as accessories after the fact!!! Every time you come forward with some silly garbage like this "creep" nonsense, you're just compounding and complicating your lies! Keep it up!! The only way to cover a lie is with more lies. Eventually the stench of your lies will become so great, that even flies and roaches wouldn't enjoy your company.
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Coffin Nails!
Yes this is not a "gravity" only collapse.
http://zkt.blackfish.org.uk/119/Paperwtc1First_Draft.pdf
So there is another source for the energy for the things you describe. So we hypothesise that this energy is explosive kinetic energy, and we support this hypothesis with the observations you describe
Creep in the NIST report is their way of accounting for this other source of energy, that is through Castigliano's Theorem, which is to do with beams storing potential energy as they deform when a force is applied. The potential energy is released when the force is removed e.g. in a catastrophic failure.
Now I think this is obviously far fetched, but believers in the official yarn believe this. Creep is important to them because this is their mechanism for storing energy (like a spring) which is released in the catastrophic failure.
If there is no creep then there is no energy storage leading up to the collapse and so the CD Hypothesis strengthened.
So just another nail in the coffin of NIST. The more nails the better!
Less likelihood of a resurrection!
Castigliano's Theorem... *PPPPFFFFTTTHHTTT!!!*
So Castigliano's Theorem accounds for 4000+ pound beams being thrown over 300 feet laterally??? Ok, NIST, lets see some calculations to rationalize that miracle. Does anyone believe that massive structural steel is going to go *BOING* like a spring??? I know materials behave differently in huge structures, but this is far fetched to say the least. Why have we NEVER observed this phenomenon before, NIST? "One-off" phenomena are considered fairy tales by the scientific method.
What does Castigliano's Theorem have to say about the symmetry, and speed, and thermate residue, and iron spheres, and molten metal, and WHAT MASS CRUSHES THE BUILDING WHEN IT IS NEARLY ALL EJECTED AWAY OR PULVERIZED AND SUSPENDED IN AIR??? And Building 7?
Even if there is "creep" where does the energy storage come from? Simply physical deformation of the steel? No new mass is being added to the structure, so supposed energy storage could ONLY be coming from deformation. Even if structural steel could go *BOING*, wouldn't this require massive and HIGHLY VISIBLE deformation of the 200 outer columns before they could store enough energy to launch 300 feet laterally!?!?
Let them present their pre-school hypotheses. Then real scientists will make fools of them in short order.
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Yeah some people believe it
Yeah some people believe it !
Incredible as that may seem !
Anyway there is no creep!
Peace Truth and Justice
Claim: Silverstein Warned
Claim: Silverstein Warned Not To Come To Work On 9/11
9/11 truth activist says security guards spilled beans, while one gets fired for calling in a false bomb threat to frame demonstrators
New York 9/11 truth activist Luke Rudkowski claims WTC complex owner Larry Silverstein and his daughter got a warning on the morning of 9/11 not to come to work that day - his source? - Silverstein's own security guards.
Rudkowski and his protest group We Are Change protested Silverstein outside the new WTC 7 building last month and were confronted by Silverstein's security entourage who proceeded to harass the group before calling in a fake bomb threat to the NYPD in an attempt to have the demonstrators arrested.
"We talked to their private security staff, we talked to people who were there with Larry on 9/11 - they said he got a phone call telling him not to show up to work and he called his daughter up and his daughter also never showed up to work," Rudkowski told a radio show this past weekend.
Obviously, Silverstein arrived later in the day but the claim that he was given foreknowledge of an incident at the World Trade Center before the first plane had crashed is a bombshell revelation, perhaps even shadowing his infamous "pull it" comment.
In addition, it has since come to light that one of the thug security guards who intimidated We Are Change protesters during a demonstration outside the new WTC 7 and called in a false bomb threat to frame the group, was recently fired by Silverstein Properties.
Rudkowski is now seeking legal representation to explore a possible lawsuit against the security guard, who also threatened the activists with "30 days in the hole" as well as claiming their cell phones were guns and that the wires coming out of their bags were bombs.
Rudkowski is of the opinion that Silverstein Properties promptly fired the security guard in an attempt to offset potential litigation.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/140507silversteinwarned.htm
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
OK this is getting ridiculous
Chris, you chide me for "bashing" AJ for no good reason. Well here we go again. AJ mentions Larry telling the WSJ about his doctor's appointment as if it had something to do with this story about security guards. I need to find the old interview clip, but Silverstein has been using this excuse of his wife making him a dermatologist appointment for a long time now.
Silverstein would have needed no warning--this sounds like someone trying to make it seem like Silverstein was in the dark about the demolition of his property. Wow, Chris. Just wow.
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whos obsessed? whos
whos obsessed? whos following who? see a few threads below, im done with this argument. how does this make it seem like he was in the dark? he owns the fucking property, if it was demolished he obviously knew, appointment or not. Wow RT, you sure are reaching. Just wow.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
why on earth would anyone need to warn Silverstein?
Like I said, pretending that Silverstein needed a warning makes it seem like he had no idea about the planned demolitions. I've heard other people on this site suggest quite seriously that Silverstein may not have known about the demolitions and quite frankly I'd be stunned if that were the case. Call it reaching if you like, I think the stink is growing stronger everyday.
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. "The Central Intelligence
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"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
in this post you deleted you accused me of thinking Luke
works for Silverstein.... and that I must have an agenda of some kind. fair enough, except that of course I never said Luke worked for Silverstein I just take issue with this claim that Silverstein's security guards would be telling him that Larry was warned about the destruction of his buildings on 9/11 because that claim makes no sense. maybe Luke is being used, I don't know. but since you think I have an agenda, maybe you can tell me who it is I'm supposed to be working for. go ahead, write me a paper about it like you've asked me to do about AJ. whatever. I've made my point and absolutely will not take any more bait from you. When you post something I disagree with I will say so and leave it at that.
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bait? you started on me.
bait? you started on me. check the time stamps. here are your words about Luke and what you think of him:
"So far all I know about this guy Luke is that he accused Zbginiew Brezinski of having carried out the 9/11 attacks, that he walked around new york advertising John Conner aka Mark Dice's website and that now he has allegedly been told by Silverstein's security guards that Larry was warned not to go to work on 9/11.
and now Alex Jones is helpinghim promote this story. I don't know if it IS in fact a duck, but it sure is starting to walk and quack like one, sorry."
i dont need to add anything else about that. you work for Harvard. as to what your true agenda is? it may be the truth, it probably is based on what ive seen but you are pretty reckless and disrespectful sometimes. and very quick to cry disinfo. those who cast the first stone blah blah blah. is Rosie "in on it" too RT? and RT, you dont even have to write a paper, just answer the fucking question one time if thats possible. i'll stop asking though, you dont seem willing or able to.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
true, I tend to say things others don't feel comfortable saying
But when people ask me things like - so who DO you think so and so is working for if in fact he is disinfo? Don't you think it would be pretty stupid of me to answer that question honestly, given that it would potentially be telling someone working for the perps what I do or don't know? Why would I give out that kind of information, whether I had it or not? I think people can come to their own conclusions, and what I think is for me to know. Please, people, don't be paranoid, but don't be foolish either. When people seem overly keen to have you reveal something it's better to evade the question or lie. The powers that be hunger for info about what's going on--mess with their minds--it's fun!
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its a simple question!
"When people seem overly keen to have you reveal something it's better to evade the question or lie."
this started as simple question that you failed to answer. you again fail to answer it and base that on me wanting to know an answer? wow. do your muscles hurt from twisting so fucking much? do you think you are that important that your opinion on who ALex Jones works for matters to whoever may or may not be watching this website? is that what your saying? unless of course you think IM that important and that I work for the perps . then i would understand why you wouldnt want to answer such a simple question. if thats the case then im flattered.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
but wait! it seems like i
but wait! it seems like i FINALLY got a straight answer out of you! inadvertandly is better than nothing i guess. Alex Jones works for Larry Silverstein. of course!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
someone reporting on the
someone reporting on the possible creation of an alibi, which is EXPLICITLY STATED in the article is twisted into running cover for Silverstein in your eyes. fucking just wow indeed RT. maybe the both of us would be better off if we didnt argue this subject? you always fail to give specifics anyway and we clearly have fundamental differences on it. i will just add that YOU were the one saying that i always bring it up(call you on it). not this time buddy.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
What he is reporting is the
What he is reporting is the fact that Silverstein's own guards confessed that he was warned not to go to work to some 9/11 truth activists who they were also harassing. That makes sense to you? Why on earth would they do such a thing? The mention of the alibi about the doctor's appointment is not what the story is about, since that has been his alibi for as long as anyone knows. What does seem interesting is the way that the Wall Street Journal, a shill publication if there is one, conveniently published this alibi to remind everyone of it around the same time that a very odd claim is made that he had been warned. We are also seeing this bizarre "gash" story about WTC7 being thrown around, and all of this is happening as Rosie O'Donnell is focusing people's attention on WTC7. Now could it be that just as interest is peaking NIST will reveal the findings of its latest outsourced study on WTC7? And that those findings will talk about the gash ripped into 7 by "falling debris"? And that "conspiracy theorists" who go around saying that Silverstein was warned are no different than those who say that every OTHER Jew was warned not to go to work? And that in fact what has the conspiracy theorists all riled up is the secrecy surrounding 9/11, which has had the sole purpose of covering up the fact that Bush had his friends in Pakistan arrange all the hijackings and who knows maybe even put explosives in the towers? And that Larry obviously had no idea of what the evil Muzzle-ims and their friend Bush had in store for his property? I sure as hell wasn't born THAT recently, nor do I have any need for used bridges, thank you very much. Oh yeah, I know, I'm a raving and paranoid conspiracy theorist for thinking there may actually be a cover up goin on here!
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the mention of the alibi is
the mention of the alibi is not what the story is about but it is pretty interesting how you found the need to leave that out. i wonder why? everyone is working for Silverstein. i dont know why it took you this long to admit who you think Alex Jones is running cover/working for. i mean, you still havent really answered that question yet but after this its pretty clear. we know what YOU take from the article. what do you think the average person reading it will take from it? they probably wont reach the same conclusions(its a big scheme to cover Larry Silversteins ass) as you, thats for sure. but i realize you have an agenda so i understand.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
I...
Would just like to say that it's refreshing seeing an argument that doesn't include me for a change.
It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up
Silverstein need not have been kept apprised of the precise date
and time that his WTC would be attacked/imploded. Who knows at what point & exactly by whom the green light was given to go ahead on the morning of 9/11??? The old schmuck could well have needed a warning & pretext not to go there that day!!!
possible sure but likely?
if you don't find it odd that Silverstein's own security guards would be confessing to a 9/11 activist of all people that Larry was warned not to come to work, that's fine. I however find it extremely bizarre. So far all I know about this guy Luke is that he accused Zbginiew Brezinski of having carried out the 9/11 attacks, that he walked around new york advertising John Conner aka Mark Dice's website and that now he has allegedly been told by Silverstein's security guards that Larry was warned not to go to work on 9/11.
and now Alex Jones is helpinghim promote this story. I don't know if it IS in fact a duck, but it sure is starting to walk and quack like one, sorry.
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so Luke works for
so Luke works for Silverstein too right? the lawsuit and the whole thing was just a ruse right? a ruse to bring attention to WTC7?!? see the logic there? its a little bit twisted. or agenda driven.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
there's been a lawsuit?
And if tehre is and Larry decides to settle out of court for the fact that his security guard made a false accusation against him then we would have Silverstein giving money to Luke--interesting huh? But go ahead and tell me who I work for, or what my agenda is. I kinda thought it had something to do with finding out the truth about 9/11. But clearly I'm just trying to get poor Lucky Larry in trouble and prevent AJ's sponsors from selling more water filters!
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yes, because the whole point
yes, because the whole point of it was for Larry Silverstein to give Luke a nice pay day. holy shit.........
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
that was a joke by the way.
that was a joke by the way. not exactly sure why else someone would vote that down......
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
yes, how dare he advertise
yes, how dare he advertise water filters! the cheap shot would have worked better if you went with the ridiculous anti-aging or religious sponsors he has. AJ isnt someone i regularly agree with, i in fact find many of his conclusions laughable but thats a far cry from working for Larry Silverstein.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Right on Rosie! You go
Right on Rosie! You go girl!
"News media is controlled" -
Just an FYI...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=97338&contrassID=3...
From his home on Park Avenue, he watched the results after the first plane slammed into the north tower. He rushed to his office on Fifth Avenue, from where he saw the second tower hit. He was terrified for the fate of his children, Roger and Lisa, who sometimes worked in his offices at 1 WTC. One of his employees, a woman, who survived by walking down 88 flights of stairs, arrived in the Fifth Avenue office covered in dust. There she found Silverstein shaking in every bone of his body. I see that you're in worse shape than me, she told him.
I know this is based on hearsay. Just putting it out there in regards to Larry receiving a warning, and then warning his children. Would he be "terrified" about his children if he had warned his children not to go to work? No, I am not putting this out there to say Luke is lying. Just putting it out there.
It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up
I saw Rosie today she was
I saw Rosie today she was calm & composed & she also mentioned how 911 the biggest crime scene ever and what did giuliani do w/ the evidence.... ship it to china immediately to be melted down.
Really?????????
That is excellent News!!!!
Truly! I can't help seeing
Truly! I can't help seeing some sort of mussolini image when see Guiliani speaking. He obviously want to prosecute the Iraq War more efficiently. I think it's great that "Debunking 911 Debunking" has appeared this early in the long, long political season ahead. Lots of truth squad opportunity everywhere and especially so if Guiliani becomes prominent.
9/11 Mysteries in Top Video Start Page
48 and climbing
2.5 million views
Wonder if it got mentioned on national TV
Mysteries Was #1 Google Video in France for a few days
http://video.google.com/videoranking?cr=fra
Loose Change has been in the TOP ten in Japan now for five months
This weekend LC2E, TerrorStorm, September 11 Revisited, 911 Mysteries, and What we Saw all were
in the top 100 US Google video.
I frequently check Google Video Top 100 to assess how we are doing.
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patsies...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4794694.html
Never got around to posting this when I read about it.
Saw this one night on yahoo news' top five stories, then, when I checked it the next day, it was gone.
The U.S. excels at creating patsies. So sick of this stuff.
"CHERRY HILL, N.J. — He railed against the United States, helped scout out military installations for attack, offered to introduce his comrades to an arms dealer, and gave them a list of weapons he could procure, including machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades.
These were not the actions of a terrorist, but of a paid FBI informant who helped bring down an alleged plot by six Muslim men to massacre U.S. soldiers at New Jersey's Fort Dix."
Didn't...
The same thing happen with the Sears Roebuck "terrorist threat?"
It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up
exactly...it was practically the same thing
it's so frustrating SEEING this crap for what it is WHEN it happens.
most of boobus america hears the first story about the terrorist plot and then never reads about, or cares about, the follow up articles like THIS one.
Or...
Like this one.
It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up
OR
or like THIS one.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mugbig.jpg
Promotional videos...
Yeah, right. I love how all these "turrists" always put on their scary ski-masks and parade around in front of a camera, and tell their whole plot to the world right before they get caught. What is this, "World's Stupidest Criminals"!?!? Then Faux News always seems to be the first one with the incriminating video. Where did these "turrists" get trained, Dr. Evil's school of Hollywood Villainy? Guys, you're not supposed to give your plot away to the "heros"!!!
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
PBS's Frontline on Domestic Spying...
Tomorrow on PBS, at 9pm Eastern (check your local wacky PBS listings), Frontline is running a program called, "Spying on the Home Front".
Here is a good review of the piece, which includes references to the Church Committee, where we first heard about Operation Mockingbird, among other things.
The review states that there are no ground breaking revelations in the piece, but rather it's a concise review of all the information availible, and a reminder of depth of information that is not availible.
A summary from the salon review:
" Put simply, what we do not know about the administration's domestic surveillance activities -- meaning how our own Government spies on us and maintains data bases reflecting our activities on U.S. soil -- vastly outweighs what we do know. But what is beyond doubt is that those activities have increased continuously in the last two decades, and that expansion has accelerated massively since the 9/11 attacks. And not only do "we" -- the citizenry -- know very little about these surveillance activities, the Congress seems to know almost as little, and does not appear to have much of an interest in finding out more, and certainly has evinced little interest in informing the public about these matters. "
Get Doyle and McIlvaine on the VIEW
I think the best chance questions about the WTC Demolitions have of getting across on a show like the View is getting Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine on the show to talk about their NIST petition. Getting them on the show might be a long shot, but if there's an overwhelming call from all of us to Rosie to get them on the show, it could just happen before she leaves. I've been messaging her everyday to try this, but I think it will take a lot of us for this message to get through to her.
When a 9/11 Family Member talks about Controlled Demolition on National Television, the Network Neocons are gonna go berserk.
Sounds like...
... an excellent idea!
Kiss*MYASS*inger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V05sRy6JEC4
Open calls for a New World Order. Plenty of video out there of Bush Sr., Dan Quayle, Bill Clinton, and Gary Hart saying the same. Funny, the requirements of this NWO seem to be police state discipline, spying, and microchips for all, while the elite frolic and rake in unlimited profits. Why does this NWO warrant false flags and wars of agression, Henry?
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Transcript of Rosie today
http://newsbusters.org/node/12748
Video of Rosie today
http://newsbusters.org/media/2007-05-14-ABCViewRosie.wmv
Steven E. Jones's research
I haven't been following his research recently, but I saw a presentation some weeks ago in which he concluded that the WTC steel sample he had analyzed contained thermite (or was it thermate) residue. If someone could tell more about this, how conclusive it is and if it might ever lead to anything, I'd be grateful.
video can be found
here.
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YouTube video of Rosie today
I posted a blog entry for this as well:
Thank you...
It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up
nooooooo not Meigs!!
nooooooo not Meigs!!
and this is the clip they cut out of the available online segments
make it viral!!!!!!!
"ya, I've heard the conspiracy theories" ......with that 'you're just crazy' smirk....... BITCH SLAP!!!!
Slutty right wing pseudo-intellectual extremist bitches
I would love to SHAG (as they say in Britain) Liz .
There's something about slutty right wing pseudo-intellectual extremist bitches that I find attractive.
I need a girlfriend, you can bury this comment if you like, I don't care.
I'm out now!!!
i dont get it
Hasselbeck is not the least bit attractive to me. and intellectual? not even pseudo,haha.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Check Out her Salary and Bio (and weep)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Hasselbeck
Brains aren't necessary in our culture anymore, a slug could debate better than these folks who pull seven figures just for breathing.
You can have her.
I'll take Sibel Edmonds. He he heh! I'm on a mission! Ever watch "Desperate Housewives" Sibel???
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Sibel is hot (and smart),
Sibel is hot (and smart), but when Michelle Malkin smiles, I think she is drop-dead beautiful. Unfortunately, most of the time she is angry and venomous.
"They took it from the top to the bottom, we're gonna take them from the bottom to the top." - Dan Wallace
really? because the only
really? because the only time i find her even mildy cute is when her mouth is closed. those teeth could kill.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
you know whos hot?
.......................................judy wood.
;)
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The Eleventh Day of Every Month
Incredible, Rosie. Keep it up.
Rosie, you are awesome. A true hero and patriot. Keep researching and refining your understanding of the facts. Eventually your knowledge, confidence, and ownership of the truth will be impossible for anyone to deny. You're doing a great job now, but push yourself to be even more knowledgeable and descriptive with your words. We are going to do this thing. See if you can get the photo of Johnny Wave aired on the show!!!!!
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
History of Oil
UK comedian and activist Rob Newman gives an informative and amusing History of Oil.
Rudy Giuliani: "Freedom is about authority"
Rudy Giuliani: "Freedom is about authority"
Source: New York Times
-What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can
do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about
authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to
cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
Read full article at:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A...
Comment is not mine
COMMENT: No Rudy, Freedom is about LIMITED GOVERNMENT ceding to the
will of the people. Freedom is about citizens "doing" and "being" anything
they like, provided they do not directly violate the inalienable rights
of another.
The "freedom" you speak of; the "lawful authority" that you hide behind
is a farce. It stands in direct opposition to everything this country
was founded on and is, by its very nature UNLAWFUL, unjust, and
undeserving our cooperation or respect.
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Ah, I hadn't gotten my daily dose of Orwellian doublespeak....
...from the government as of yet, and was feeling somewhat peckish about it....so much better now....thanks joe......
Shesh.
That is laugh out loud funny. (I did!) Black is white, up is down, shit is breakfast.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
where's my "misogynist " accuser?
Yeah, "Buddy"! You're not going to see me putting down Rosie O'Donnell. I'm quite acquainted with the life and death of Rosa Luxemburg,as well.Heard of her? I have a few heroines out there. Just waiting for you to call some of the commenters over at the Rosie "The view" comments "misogynists". My point the other day was that at the Richard Gage presentation two weeks ago, the average female age must have been 65. I'm not kidding, I sat in the back and looked down upon a sea of grey hair. OK, it was a Friday night and most students in this town have their priorites...
Yesterday, Johnny Wave, and then I found this : www.thinkprogress.org/2007/05/13/generals-revolt
We need military types on our side. Is this the beginning? Does anyone know if any other active duty personnel have made a 9/11 Truth stand? This could snowball. Gen. Batiste made quite a statement through www.votevets.org. I e-mailed them with an URL for "911 Mysteries. Please, more of you go over there and try to get them on our side.
"Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do. " -Rudy Giuliani
Scary stuff-thanks for the post!
More scary stuff- UV Alert for S. Oregon, all Ca., to Montana, W. Nebraska, W. Texas-Four Corners region will be at the an index of "10" in the next few days. Go to: www.epa.gov/sunwise/uvindex.html#map
And does your newspaper warn you? Well, there is that little inch-square part of the weather page.
What comments in the View thread are misogynist?
I see a lot of insults directed at Elizabeth Hasselbeck. You dissed all women under 50 ("What, your brains don't work until you're fifty?") or in other words, you dissed a whole class of people. You support Rosie and you have other heroines -- cool. Don't take it personally, but I typically say something when someone is demeaning to a whole group of people (I get tetchy about "fag," too.)
hermaphrodite!
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*sob* My feelings are hurt.
That's just below the belt... bwahahaha.
Dario Fo, Nobel Prize for Literature, started working together
with the team of "Zero"
Zero Investigation News - Inchiesta sull'11 settembre News 13.05.07
Dario Fo, Nobel Prize for Literature, started working together with the team of "Zero"
Very important news for us all and for everyone who is supporting our work: Dario Fo, Nobel Prize for Literature in 1997, ha started working togheter with the team of “Zero – Investigation on 9/11”.
Dario Fo, with the researchers of the movie, is studing all the details of the official version on the facts of september 11th 2001, and he is checking the depositions gathered during the investigation so far. While the movie has already been edited in a rough copy, other possible interventions are now considered.
His participation gives us more visibility and support in Italy and abroad.
The investigation is going stronger and more important: trusting in this new level of certainty, we invite all those people who don't believe in the official report and who want to know what really happened on 9-11 to contribute to the investigation production.
It is possible to make a donation using Paypal and your credit card.
Or you can become a co-producer purchasing a share or a percentage of share. You can read the contract here.
Zero - Inchiesta sull'11 settembre http://www.zerofilm.it/
Carlyle Group
Has anybody been tracking the Caryle Group's acquisitions downunder?
In the last two months they have bought into the New Zealand Herald (#1 broadsheet in NZ) and channel ten in Australia (one of the three main commercial channels).
Recently the government in Australia further de-regulated media to allow Murdoch and co to continue to tighten their grip on media and information.
What about Murdoch's tilt at Down Jones and the Wall Street Journal? Is anyone worried about that? Why isn't anyone talking about this?
Aussiefor911truth
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Our political system will not radically change for the better save some catalyzing event, such as exposing 911 as an inside job
hmm
write an article about it, i will read it.
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The Eleventh Day of Every Month
there's this about Murdoch/WSJ
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/05/wall_street_jou.php
Jersey Girls Petition
Anyone know the latest on the Jersey Girls Petition? I thought I heard that they finally got the 15,000 sigs they wanted. Jon Gold would be happy as hell about this I imagine. The link is no longer working, so I thought maybe it got taken down? Couldn't find any updates on Google regarding it.
http://www.petitiononline.com/july10/petition.html
Evidence
A solid piece of evidence is the video recording of the woman construction worker who was injured in the basement explosions and was the first person admitted into the hospital as a 911 victim. I believe it was Dan Rather who interviewed her and tried to blame the explosions she testified about on the collapse of the tower. But if her admittance time was before the collapse it verifies William Rodiguez's accounts. In that interview she said she was taken to the hospital about forty minuets after she was injured. That would be before the collapse occurred If I have my timeline correct.
This seem clear to me, however, I have not seen it brought up by anyone anywhere. I am hoping this is old info to all of you.