Giuliani warned of WTC 2 collapse. Evacuates north just before

Giuliani says that he was warned that WTC 2 was going to collapse.
Here is the 25 second clip:

ABC's Don Dahler reports that Giuliani evacuated north just before WTC 2 collapsed. 20 second video:

Giuliani admits that he was warned the WTC 2 was going to collapse and was seen evacuating just before it happened.

Here are 2 questions that people should ask Rudy Giuliani...

Who told him that WTC 2 was going to collapse?

While he was evacuation with his entourage, did he make any effort to warn any of the firemen and policemen?

Ask questions. Demand answers.

Possible contradiction?

The first clip has Ghouliani saying that "before they could get out the trade center collapsed", whereas in the second clip the reporter makes it clear that he saw Ghouliani outside "walking past him" in the time BETWEEN the collapses of the south and north towers. I know Ghouliani doesnt specify what he means by "trade center", does it mean south tower, or north tower, or both, or niether? It would be interesting if there was more data that is specific to when Ghouliani says he left the Barclay St. command center.

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Thanks for the correction

It looks like the ABC reporter saw him heading north after the 2nd tower collapsed. The reporter seems to be referring to tower 1, the first to be hit and the 2nd to collapse.

There are so many questions that need to be asked and answered. Mostly because the official story is impossible.


cool, maybe I

confused "2nd Tower" with "Tower 2" which would be inverse as far as the collapses go?

maybe some more ears on this could help clarify, Im a bit fried atm :P

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Any ideas

I still cant believe this guy is running for prez If we get some money we can run radio ads in new hamshire for pretty cheap during the election season we can promote 911 truth and smoke Giuliani and force the issue. Any ideas

Found an interesting reference for the warning

on a forum for retired NYPD folks:

Kerik was as unqualified to lead the NYPD in the past as he is to lead the Dept of Homeland Security today. This former chauffeur & bodyguard to Rudy Giuliani brought little to the emergency management of NYC. On 9/11, NYC was the only major city in the US without an integrated command structure in which the NYPD , FDNY, and other services could actually work together as a unit during a major disaster. This lack of an integrated command structure, combined with FD radios which did not work in the WTC, became a prescription for disaster on 9/11.

Because Bernard Kerik allowed a culture of competition and rivalry to fester, Firefighters were unable to accompany the PD in their helicopters to observe that the second WTC tower was in grave danger of collapse. Thus the PD had 21 precious minutes of warning to get their officers out. But there was no incident command system in place to tell the FD of the deadly situation they were in, even if their substandard radios were working. This is a disgrace and a crime, and on 9/11, Kerik and the Giuliani Administration were part of the problem of massive failures in emergency management and communications, including the total inadequacy of the 911 system.

Sally Regenhard,
mother of Probationary FF Christian Regenhard

the next time that

piece of shit Ghouliani invokes 9/11 in a debate or wherever, someone (hopefully Ron Paul) needs to slam his ass with these facts...BIGTIME

"oh, so you lowered crime? thats nice... Why was one of the most heavily targeted cities on earth not prepared IN THE LEAST for an attack? Why were the radios and communication systems not integrated? Was it by design? Insure the death toll would be high?"
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9/11 was an INSIDE JOB

By turning a crime scene

into a graveyard full of firemen and other first responders, guaranteed that most of the crime scene evidence would be destroyed very quickly.

WHY did people think it was going to collapse?

Either they were warned by someone with prior knowledge OR it was simply because evryone around the towers knew there were multiple explosions taking place and the logical assumption would be that something other than the plane crashes was happening to weaken the towers.


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where was the ghoul?

Why can't we do rich text anymore? Anyway, check out where he was--in the building next to building 7, i.e. north of the WTC complex. That's where he says they were "trapped" when the south tower collapsed, which means that he stayed there until the north tower was about to collapse, before which he headed off and past the reporter in the clip above, warning of the imminent collapse of the north tower. Now I wonder at what point Barry Jennings and Michael Hess were witnessing the huge explosion on the 7th floor of WTC7 that trapped them on the eighth floor, and where the Ghoul was at that point. Safely next door in 75 Barclay? Running away northward from the imminently collapsing North Tower? We need a timeline!


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oh yeah...

can someone confirm that the new WTC7 was built slightly north and west of the original? because the original's empty lot is still visible there...


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Anyone remember this?

20 cameras malfunction for Ghoul press aid whack

August 24, 2006

None of the roughly 20 security cameras at the building was working, sources said.

A former press aide to Mayor Rudy Giuliani was found naked and strangled in a bed inside a cousin’s million-dollar Greenwich Village apartment, law enforcement sources said yesterday.

Martín Barreto – a respected public relations guru who lived a luxurious lifestyle with high-powered clients in New York and Miami – was discovered Monday lying near a condom wrapper and safe-sex aids, a law enforcement source said.

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Here's a great quote from

Here's a great quote from ghouliani:

"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
- NYC Mayor Rudolph Giuliani

Gee I can't wait till this guy becomes Prez. Luckily it will never happen (knock on wood). Instead we'll have she-devil Hillary and a series of "friendly" wars involving Nato.

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One more word on the Ghoul.

I try to post this excerpt in any thread about Ghouliani.

Where did this guy come from? How did he become a power broker? The answer lies in a little-known pedophilia scandal at West Point. Quite simply, the ghoul became a contender by covering up for child abusers.

From Dave McGowan's "Programmed to Kill" (disturbing content):

"The case first broke in July of 1984, when a three-year-old girl found herself in the emergency room of the West Point Hospital with a lacerated vagina. She told the examining physician that a teacher at the day care center had hurt her. The next month, the parents of another child leveled accusations of abuse at the center.
As the Mercury News reported: “By the end of the year, 50 children had been interviewed by investigators. Children at West Point told stories that would become horrifyingly familiar. They said they had been ritually abused. They said they had had excrement smeared on their bodies and been forced to eat feces and drink urine. They said they were taken away from the day care center and photographed.”

Despite abundant medical and psychological evidence, and literally dozens of child witnesses, and despite “950 interviews by 60 FBI agents assigned to the investigation, an investigation led by former U.S. Attorney Rudolph Giuliani produced no federal grand jury indictments,” according to the Herald Record.
The Herald also noted that: “In 1987, Giuliani said his detailed investigation showed only one or two children were abused.” This was, it should be noted, a bare-faced lie from the fascistic future-mayor and would-be Senator, as the Herald report divulged: “a still-secret, independent report - produced by one of the nation's top experts on child sexual abuse - confirms the children's accusations of abuse.”

This was not the first time that the prestigious academy had shown an appalling willingness to overlook extreme levels of abuse directed at children by army personnel. A year before the abuse case broke, a 22-month-old child was murdered by an Army staff sergeant. The Mercury News reported that: “After a court martial hearing, the sergeant was given an 18 month suspended sentence and dishonorable discharge.”

In other words, he served no time and was essentially given a free ride for murdering a child. With help from Giuliani, the FBI, the U.S. Army, and the grand jury, the abusers of countless children at the day care center (which was, appropriately enough, building number 666 on the academy grounds) were likewise given a free ride.
As with the Franklin case, the children and their parents were to find justice only through the civil courts. The Herald Record reported that: “lawyers for both the government and the 11 child plaintiffs agreed that some children were sexually abused at the center two years ago” (again contradicting Giuliani's bogus conclusions). The government, however, claimed that it could not be held responsible, due to the “assault exemption in the Federal Tort Claim Act.”

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I try to post this excerpt in any thread about Ghoulian

Can you provide a link to this Mercury News story other than the McGowan quote? I think a bio for Rudy that covers all of the bases (includiing West Point) is a must. Another great job Rudy!