The Key is Passed to Daniel Sunjata

Following several successful meetings, William Rodriguez and Daniel Sunjata have decided to work together on a series of 9/11-related video projects. Beyond the partnership of Sunjata and Rodriguez, it is still unknown as to who else is involved behind the scenes.

We're told that some of the projects will be focused on challenging Rodriguez's detractors.

Another very high-profile celebrity, donated 2 HD cameras for the project and filmaker Jonathan Kerr-Smith donated his talent to film the projects. An effort will be launched later this week to raise the remaining funds needed.

With an increasingly public profile, Rodriguez is a very recognizable spokesperson internationally for people who are questioning the official story of 9/11.

Following the media success that Rodriguez had in Great Britain this past winter, he has decided to return this summer and join forces with Annie Machon for a series of public appearances. (For those concerned with the connections between Machon and David Shayler, please note that Machon and Shayler are no longer partners* and do not agree on the No-plane theory.) Although Shayler introduced Rodriguez on two occasions at the beginning of the last tour, Rodriguez demanded that he be dropped from the bill, mainly because of Shayler's injection of "no-plane" theories into media appearances. Rodriguez has nothing to do with "no-planery" and doesn't want to be associated with it. This is the same reason that Rodriguez parted ways with Jimmy Walter.

William Rodriguez website:

Sunjata and Mrs. Rodriguez


good stuff!

I'm glad to see Willie being careful with who he associates with, and that he seems to successfully networking with good people. Are we sure about Annie Macon though? I wouldn't put too much stock in the fact that she and Shayler are no longer "partners". It's entirely possible that that was never a romantic "partnership" in the first place. And the other kind of partners usually work for the same people even after they split...


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Exactly what I think RT!

Exactly what I think RT! When you have two “Ex-Intelligence” officers like that, and one of them starts talking about how "holograms hit the Towers" and acting like classic contelpro, and then they “split”… well who knows. I did trust them to begin with, but now it just seems like some kind of intelligence Op front "partnership" frankly.

Who says holograms?

Shayler or Annie? I'll remember to add the name to my "Black List".

"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

It's only Shayler to the

It's only Shayler to the best of my knowledge.

Here he is on video saying, "Holograms hit the Towers" and that "Aliens made mankind";

^ Nothing like reinforcing that kooky "conspiracy theorist" stereotype is there spook!

Show "Dem Bruce Lee Styles is a liar." by Chander

"Yes, I believe no planes

"Yes, I believe no planes were involved in 9/11… The only explanation is that they were missiles surrounded by holograms made to look like planes… Watch the footage frame by frame and you will see a cigar-shaped missile hitting the World Trade Center, I know it sounds weird, but this is what I believe." – David Shayler

Here's another quote for you;

“The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.” - Friedrich Nietzsche, German philosopher (1844 - 1900)


Mrs. Rodriguez is a pretty lady. I guess she has "the key" to William's heart!
"Cogito ergo sum"

and his apartment!

but yeah, well done Willie you sly fox you! Any chance she has any hermanas who are also into truthers??

speaking of, and not to show how pathetic my life is, but when are we going to start a 9/11 Truth dating site? anyone??


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I guess I'll jump in to the pathetic bandwagon too, I like the idea of a a 9/11 Truth dating site... just as long as my date is not into the whole "no-planes" theory or else we have a problem.

"911 was an Inside Job"

Seeking Truther Love

I know you're being sort of silly, but it's not a bad idea. Women love courageous, truthful (and articulate) men who stand up to authority! I'd guess that this site is more men than women, and that's why I say that, but I'm sure men love intelligent, curious, independent women, too.

I wouldn't use the site, as I have my perfect love already . . .


sign her up!!

ok in all seriousness this young lady could convince a lot of guys to consider our case. didn't watch the whole thing so hopefully she doesn't go into a no-planes rant at the end!


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Couldn't watch to the end?

Did you end up having your undies in a bundle around your ankles..?

Just kidding. :-) Girls talking 9/11 conspiracy theory... Now that is hot!

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey


Preeety girl!! I really like her voice, too. It's good to be a truther! ;)

"911 was an Inside Job"

9/11 truth babes...

Oh my God I think I just found my fetish!
"Cogito ergo sum"

I read this under comments

I read this under the comments on her video. I thought this guy wrapped it up in one paragraph. I kinda had a chuckle thinking he probably said it without taking a breath. lol

"9-11 was an inside job. Illuminati runs shit. The bush regime is fascists. Prescott Bush which is g. bush sr's dad funded the nazi imprisonment camps and the holocaust for adolf hitler.Like father like son and so on. Their all apart of the Illuminati(Look that shit up it goes deep) ties into the british royal families and the vatican. These are the end times, or maybe I'm crazy. Well see. 2012 almost here but a lots gonna happen before then. Keep researching Shonnalynn your doin good. "

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

I have to admit, I was thinking the same thing myself.

I definitely couldn't get into a relationship with a "sheeple" now. Geez, I'm really whittling down my options! She has to be intelligent, preferably not "religious" but "spiritual" is OK (cliche used for lack of a better descripiton), she must be fit, preferably with dark hair and eyes... I'm going to be alone forever. LOL!!

I think the Truther criterion might now be more important than the religion one.

"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

haha, im right there with

haha, im right there with you buddy. dark hair and eyes are my type too,haha.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Thank God my girlfriend is a "truther"

Of course, I had to brainwash the Hell out of her with "Loose Change" playing on an endless loop on the 'puter. :-)

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

welcome to the club!

9/11 was just more icing on my personal kookiness cake. I found out in 1998 that most Americans don't owe any income tax and never have, and I'm too stubborn to cooperate with fraud, which rules out most jobs for me since most employers are unwilling to cross swords with the gummint no matter what the law says. Try that opening line on a sen~orita near you. :-/ My experiences have been quite similar to yours. I'd buy you a drink at this point, to commiserate, if we were in realspace together right now. ;-)

Want to figure out 9/11? Ponder the 9/11 "Mineta Stone"


Count the following myths - my partner and I agree on all of them (i.e., that they are all myths)! But then we met on Yahoo personals and got to know each other extensively in writing before even seeing pictures of each other, let alone meeting in person. (Interestingly, we 'met' on the personals a few hours before the towers were struck, but didn't become truthers until the 5-year anniversary of the attacks...just never looked into it before then.)


Count the Myths:
1. Global warming is due to human interference.
2. The germ-theory of AIDS is true.
3. The gov’t acct of 911 is true.
4. All dietary fat is pernicious.
5. Creationism is a reasonable theory of human origins.
6. Our gov’t works in the citizens’ best interests (OK city bombing, 911, etc.).
7. Jesus Christ lived and is the Son of God.
8. Male circumcision is necessary for health.
9. JFK was killed by one assassin, working alone.
10. Saddam Hussein had a role in 9/11.
11. Vaccinations are safe and effective.
12. US income tax is legal.
13. Recycling is effective.
14. The US media is fair and balanced.
15. Co-sleeping with children is bad.
16. Gay marriage is bad for children.
17. The US has two political parties.
18. Religious indoctrination is necessary for instilling moral values.
19. God is all powerful and all-knowing.
20. There is life after death.
21. Prayer is effective.
22. The US is a democracy and our voting system is fair.
23. Bottle-feeding is as healthy as breastfeeding.
24. The Federal Reserve is part of the US gov’t.
25. The geo-centric view of the universe is accurate.
26. Attending crying baby leads to spoiling the child.
27. We are not running out of oil.
28. Everyone, regardless of ability, deserves a spot in college.
29. A college degree is necessary and sufficient to get a good job.
30. The US is great (best healthcare in the world, has not interfered in sovereign gov’ts).
31. The war in Iraq is a resounding success.
32. Sexual orientation is a matter of will power.
33. The US dollar is backed by gold.
34. The high rates of autism are due to better diagnosis.
35. Hard work is all you need to succeed in life.
36. America was founded on Christian principles.
37. The War on Drugs is real.
38. Men have walked on the moon.
39. Pets (cats and dogs) should be vegetarian.
40. Vegetarianism is healthier than meat-eating.

I could be wrong about some of these -- the moon one is a conundrum. But I love arguing and thinking about this stuff.

In response to E Vero

Since you posted this, I challenge the following points:

[1] chemtrails, HAARP, more input/consumption=more output/waste, destruction and ravaging

[13] not informed on this subject, would like to learn more because I/we recycle religously and avoid #3 plastic when possible.

[40] Me and my family (and roomates) became vegan after much research and experience and we have since become healthier. We use biofeedback to measure and supplement with wholefoods, raw foods, hemp, flax, fortified hemp milk, organic farmers market veggies and fruit, etc http://GoVeganRadio - Email or call Bob Linden and ask him anything and/or catch the podcast/show. Meat has metabolic waste, uric acid and low nutrition value compared to vegan alternatives. animal=profit

I am utterly convinced the moon landing was a hoax. I've seen documentaries like "Did We Land On the Moon":

...and debunk site but I have never seen a rebuttal to this:

Also, I would like to share the observation that film "Capricorn One made" a great case for compartmentalization:

Hi Chucksheen:Thanks for

Hi Chucksheen:

Thanks for replying. I'll take them in order.
global warming:

"[1] chemtrails, HAARP, more input/consumption=more output/waste, destruction and ravaging"

Regarding "global warming" - yes, i think it's happening, but that doesn't mean that 1) global warming is due to human activity, or 2) that human activity doesn't produce pollution. I think that pollution and toxins of all kind are a huge problem. But the sun seems to be warming all the planets in the solar system, due to magnetic activity. Here is a link to a video you should watch of a BBC program that aired earlier this spring ('the great global warming swindle'):

(This video keeps getting deleted by Google and Youtube, so keep the title, not necessarily the URL.)

Here's a link to an article about how global warming is a pretty neat trick to convince people of the need for one-world government (because pollution does not respect national boundaries).

Here's another take:


"[13] not informed on this subject, would like to learn more because I/we recycle religously and avoid #3 plastic when possible."

It seems that recycling uses more energy than it saves, causes more pollution than it saves, etc. And shockingly, lots of "recycling" programs are frauds - the stuff goes in a landfill anyway. I saw a program on this, but cannot find it now, documenting how all those,separated glass bottles and jars ended up all together, along with paper and plastic, in a landfill (in NY anyway).


I think industrial meat is bad for you; but the record is pretty clear, over millions of years, humans and some of closest cousins evolved as omnivores. We are meant to eat a wide variety of foods. But we were not meant to eat industrial foods.

I will cite the case of omega-3. This is a good kind of fat that we mainly get from eating fatty, cold-water fish. Your body can make it by eating plant sources (flax) but the process is not efficient. You used to be able to get it from cows that grazed on grass, from drinking milk from cows that grazed on grass, etc. You can still get it by eating wild game (venisen, etc.). But industutrial meat is mainly grain-fed (force-fed practically and stressed-out, confined animals) and therefore lacks lots of nutrients, including omega-3. The result is that our meats have mostly omega-6 fats, which are far less healthy. (There should be a balance of the two kinds of fat.) Omega-3 is a precursor to serotonin, necessary for many bodily functions, including our mental health. Even SSRI's like Prozac cannot help you if you don't have much serotonin in your system; SSRIs just keeps whatever serontonin you've got in your synapses (prevents re-uptake).

I eat non-industrial milk ('raw,' or unpasteurized) and meats, pastured eggs (yummy), and so on. Chickens need to eat protein and are best rotated in the field following the cows. They eat the grubs in the field as well as the larvae left in the cow manure (which then doesn't develop into insects that can carry disease). The milk has more vitamin c and other nutrients the help adult humans process the lactose, too.

Organic is not enough - that just means no pesticides, no growth hormones. The animals could still be kept in cages, crowded, beaks cut off, etc., and fed horrible stuff. The FDA doesn't care. The Ag dept doesn't care. They represent the corporate farm interests. Monsanto.

Fascinating book on this, called "pure food" by Nina Planck. You'll love it. The non-industrial food is not just better for you; it tastes terrific, too. And it's better, of course, for your local (small) farmers. I love my milk group, too; we have to get around the law which is fun. (In some states, like Michigan, people have to buy shares in a cow so that they can obtain raw milk. Really funny, that.)

As for the moon, well, I haven't done any good research on it; just spent a few days a couple of weeks ago on this. Watched a lot of footage, read some stuff on the internet. I was left with many questions. Why have we not been back since the five times we went (all during the Nixon years)? It took less than one decade to get to the moon but now we cannot even get the foam insulation right for piddly little space trips! And why are the pics on Nasa's website showing multiple light sources on the moon; there should have only been one source. Why is there no landing crator under the space ship? Why did the flag flutter if there is no atmosphere? How could there be footsteps if there's no water or air on the moon? How could the crew change camera lenses outside the space craft? That is, how did the camera lenses, film, and humans in body suits withstand the extremes of temperature? What happened to the junk they supposedly left on the moon? Don't you think it woudl show up in later, high-tech pics? The biggest problem is the belts of radiation between us and the moon. Cannot get around that. No one could survive that trip without very thick leaden walls on the space ship.

I think that the space race provided a convenient reason to spend massive amounts of money (that really went for defense research) and show us as able to beat the Soviets. And the astronauts never talked. Now that's a conspiracy for you -- a secret well kept. A big lie out in the open.

I don't believe the gov't about much of anything any more.



I'd love to see the dis-info crowd try and infiltrate THAT!

A new dawn draws near....

Mrs. Rodriguez info

Unfortunately Mr. and Mrs. Rodriguez suffered a miscarriage earlier this year (2007). Not sure of the circumstances - hopefully they are working together on this "project " and will meet with future success. Best wishes William!

c'mon celebs

Time to jump on this train. All aboard!

If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

I am with you Randy, Celebs

I am with you Randy, Celebs need to step up. We need to get them come out big time. If a group of celebs come out at the same time it would really make a big impact. On another note, since they did not post my blog entry, I'm not sure where I can get it posted. So here is my post.

Not sure if anybody had discover this yet. But watching the video that was made by Bob & Bri's "What we saw". I had noticed there was a lot of flashes below the impact zone. There were as least 17 flashes that I saw. Some are not as obvious to see in the google link. I have the full .mov file version which I downloaded here sometime ago. And browsing through the file it is definitely more noticeable. Anyhow, I have made stills of those ones that are very noticeable and you could also watch the video yourself to see them. All these flashes happen before the second plane hit the tower. If anyone know or have contact with these people who film this video. It would be great to have a more detail forensic on an uncompressed video.

Also I noticed there are multiple flashes happen simultaneously as the tower collapse, you could see them inside those dust cloud at 19:40-19:56. Actually if you pay attention you could see these flashes in any collapse footage.

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Here are the timecode for the not as noticeable flashes. If you have the full movie file, check it out.

0:50 - 0:52 Top Floor Westside
0:50 - 0:52 around 73-78FL Westside
0:57 - 0:59 around 95-98FL Westside
1:05 - 1:06 around 35-40FL Westside
1:12 - 1:14 around 57-60FL Northside
1:15 - 1:17 around 60-64FL Westside
1:21 - 1:23 around 86-90FL Westside
1:24 - 1:26 around 98-101FL Westside
1:38 - 1:40 around Top Floor Westside
1:38 - 1:40 around 78-82FL Westside
3:38 - 3:40 around 45-50FL Westside

14:01 - 14:04 smoke coming out from the ground level of WTC before building collapse.

I noticed

When I first watched that video around 6 months ago I noticed the ones around 7:55 - you have done an amazing job finding others. This is really solid stuff.

Good work.

What is that?

What is that lump on building 7 in the earlier shots (lower right)?
Why isn't it there in minute 11?

i think it's been said that it's a window washer....

and it's there--it just goes up to the top next to the black band. ok speculate away! i think I see a dancing Israeli with a squeegee!! ;)


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Someone was on a scaffold outside 7

after the Towers had been hit!?!?!?! WTF?? that is MONDO WEIRD! More attention grabbing than the squibs, that's for sure. Maybe this is another "pod"? How are we authenticating new video clips that surface? Putting in extra squibs would be simple on a home computer. There could be faked or altered videos out there, that will SEEM to support the solid evidence of CD/squibs/etc., but could later be used to "debunk" due to the fact that they can be proven to have been altered.
"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

yep, these have been pointed out before

it goes without saying that the evidence is overwhelming at this point and our energy is better spent spreading what we already know than microanalyzing things. though I don't recall the puff coming out of 7..... hmmm!


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Listen to Alex Jones/Daniel Sunjata Interview

We need to attract new ears and eye balls and Daniel's testimony will do that.

Yea, but anyone with

Yea, but anyone with photoshop can add a little "puff" here and there. I know about the real squibs, especially the ones coming out of WTC7, but this seems to trivialise those a bit because it's hard to know if they’re even genuine. Also couldn’t a few of those just be light reflections?

DBLS, that why I put the

DBLS, that why I put the link of the video so you could see it in motion and it sure don't look like reflections. This was shot in one direction, a sudden flash reflection would only be cause by either a camera movement or something move in front of those windows. Of course you could also key in smoke or reflections into video too. But unless Bob or Bri did some post production to their video, I really think those flashes are legit.

More WTC flashes found

More WTC flashes found here:

Damn, Mrs. Rodriguez is

Damn, Mrs. Rodriguez is hot!!!

For shame

Haven't you, or any of the other posters making similar comments, got any shame?

It's indecent and immoral to make comments about someone else's wife like that.

Have some modesty. How would you fell if you posted a picture of your wife with good intentions and then you see men oggling over her and commenting to each other about it.

It is very disrespectful.

This is what America has become...

Mr Morals huh?

honestly? i would be flattered and feel lucky that i had her if men made comments like that about my wife.
its not like he called her a "hot slut" or something, he said shes attractive. big f'ing deal.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

oh nevermind. i dont even

oh nevermind. i dont even care.......

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

I think many married women

I think many married women are hot.

Should say "Challenging"

not "challening"

just doing my duties as grammar police....

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Forsooth, etc.

Thanks. Teh spel chker din't work i ges.

Nuclear war on the

OT: "Claims of 9/11 conspiracy have suspect running scared"

Very interesting story:,1299,DRMN_15_55507...

"Former Denverite says 9/11 work has made him a target--
A former Federal Emergency Management Agency videographer accused of killing his wife in Denver is seeking political asylum in Argentina, claiming the U.S. government wants him silenced for what he saw in the smoldering ruins of the Twin Towers after 9/11"...

Body ID'd as 9/11 firefighter; foul play suspected

A former New York City firefighter who moved to Arizona to deal with lung problems suffered during the 2001 terrorist attacks was found dead in his Scottsdale home last Monday. Police are investigating Salvatore J. Princiotta's death as a homicide.

Over the past few days, relatives, friends and acquaintances filled a digital guestbook for Princiotta's funeral, posted on the New York Newsday Web site, with comments about how he was a caring and kind individual to everyone who knew him.

During his 15 years with the New York City fire department, Princiotta was part of a unit that received the Thomas R. Elsasser Memorial Medal, an award given each year to a fire company that demonstrates skill and bravery, according to an obituary that appeared in Newsday.



Typical Rocky Mountain News hatchet job:

"Sonnenfeld's allegations have made him a poster child for conspiracy theorists on the Internet."

Really? I've been digging through 9/11 information for two years and this is the first I've heard of him.

"conspiracy blogs" named are:;; and

The point of this article is to insinuate that anyone who contends that elements within the U.S. Government had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks is a LIAR, a POSSIBLE MURDERER and MENTALLY UNHINGED.

I live near Denver, and loathe the Rocky Mtn. News.

See the Window washers on WTC 7?

Really wonder what they could say. They had to traverse down from the top of WTC 7 on 911. What do they know?

They could not see the towers from their location
Together in Truth!

The Simpsons v. the media

The Simpsons v. the media

Think Progress
Tuesday May 22, 2007

In its highly-publicized 400th episode last night, The Simpsons skewered Fox News and modern journalism. At one point, outraged news anchor Kent Brockman confesses to the world:

Friends, the press and the government are in bed together in an embrace so intimate and wrong, they could spoon on a twin mattress and still have room for Ted Koppel. Journalists used to questions the reasons for war and expose abuse of power. Now, like toothless babies, they suckle on the sugary teat of misinformation and poop it into the diaper we call the 6:00 News. Demand more of your government. Demand more of your press.


"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Need for Spanish language films

This seems like a good place to put in a plug for Spanish language films, talks, reporting, etc. on 911 truth.

There are some versions available on the web with subtitles ("Loose Change", "911 Mysteries", "In Plane Site", and "911 Press For Truth") and on DVD ("Painful Deceptions" remake from the Jimmie Walker dvd, with subtitles, and, finally, a VOICE dub on the "In Plane Site, Director's Cut" English/Spanish version dvd).

But it would be really good to get a native Spanish speaker, as Rodriguez presumably is, who is also an expert as well as being so intimately connected to the WTC part of 911, do some work aimed at a hispanic audience. Besides the huge number of Spanish speakers in the US, Spanish is one of the world's principal languages, and we should try to get everyone on board. It's one thing to watch subtitles, and who would want to read subtitles all the way through such seminal stuff as a DRG or Jones lecture, and entirely another thing to listen to something intended for your participation.

(If Rodriguez has any talks or such in Spanish and they are available on the web, please let me know so I can copy and distribute them.)

Fred W

I agree

I'm from mexico and while I do speak english, i wish there were more movies, talks, etc in spanish. We need the truth movement to go global and its very hard to do so if it all is in english. I translated "911 Press for truth" and "Who killed Jonh Oneill", but I wish i could share with my friends and family other films like "terrorstorm" or even the DRG books!

"911 was an Inside Job"

Did you put together the

Did you put together the Spanish subtitled "911 Press for truth" that's on Youtube? I'm converting it now so I can put it on a DVD.

One thing that I have thought about: providing voice for something like "911 Mysteries" maybe wouldn't be so hard, because it's mostly narration in the background with hardly any scenes of people talking directly on camera, as I recall. That means one wouldn't need to try to synch the voice to the screen much. And since a translation already exists in the form of a subtitled edition, it would almost be just a job of reading from a script while listening to the English through headphones, or something like that, to get the timing approximately correct. Maybe even just having the narration in spoken Spanish while leaving the exact speeches from on-camera speakers in sub-titles would be a big step forward. One person could do it.

Unfortunately, I'm not a native speaker, and my Spanish, although serviceable, wouldn't sound good enough. But I'd be glad to fiddle around with other technical stuff. I don't know if one would need permision from the film makers or not -- there's so much stuff on, and it's in a good cause and all that. The sub-titled parts could be merged in from the already existing sub-titled version. In fact, I think I have the text sub-title srt file I downloaded from somewhere. (I have a devious mind, you can see.)

And "911 Mysteries" is such a good film.

Fred W


I didnt even know there was "911 press for truth" on youtube, thats very cool!!
What I did was, I downloaded the english subtitles and then I translated them, its a .srt file. The same thing for "Who killed John O'neill"
I just remembered I also have the "911 Mysteries" film with spanish subs. It's a great film. (embeded .avi file)
I'm afraid I'm not that good with technical stuff though. But I think yours is a great idea. People need to see this, to hear this.

"911 was an Inside Job"


Great job guys.

911 truth dating site

Hey you all, I have never posted here before although I have been following the site for a couple of years. I don't know about a dating site, but I had an idea about a year ago for a 911 truth public relations concept that maybe someone might like to run with if it has any merit. It would be kind of a mock support group organization (like a 12-step program) for 911 truthers called "Nine Eleven Conspiracy Theorists Anonymous" (NECTA). Someone could write a book about our plight and our experiences as disenfranchised Americans--We suffer from this disease-like condition where our perception of reality has been influenced by what seems to be very obvious and straight-forward info. concerning 911 and our govt., yet we are doomed to suffer cognitive disonance and perpetual exile from our communities because we can never again accept the cultural myths upon which the post-911 world is based. What are we to do? Are we all crazy? Could the mainstream "normal" folk help to guide us back into the fold? Perhaps they could examine the ideas that define our mental condition and help us see the light. Anybody?

not bad

Why call us the conspiracy theorists, though? 9/11 was obviously committed by a group of people working together, and it was obviously very criminal, so everyone is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist (unless perhaps they think "Q" from Star Trek did it alone, with magic) no matter who they think the conspirators were.

As for the book... go for it. ;-) I may help, if you develop the idea far enough and I like it a lot (and if you want help, of course).

Want to figure out 9/11? Ponder the 9/11 "Mineta Stone"

Welcome Mconnolly...brave of

Welcome Mconnolly...brave of you to stick your toe in the water. I am pretty new myself. I understand your feelings of alienation from most "normal" Americans. As soon as I found out that the OCT was a fraud, I immediately wanted to talk to everyone I knew. Only my family and partner (who found out when I did) have been supportive. People at my workplace are so blind, except for one lone colleague. Some people here, I'm sure, have only this site to support them. It does feel like we're living in an alternate universe sometimes. I like to make the analogy with the "matrix" movie; life is not what you thought around here. And you can't go back to thinking otherwise.

I think "nine eleven truthers anonymous" sounds better (NETA) - that's what we are. Although I know you're being cheeky, I also don't like the idea that we have an addiction that must be "cured." How about "official conspiracy theory anonymous" (OCTA)? But I appreciate the general idea you have of throwing down the gauntlet and demanding that people tell us why we're wrong... defend your position!

Did you see the recent "View" episode with Rosie and Elizabeth fighting? What a waste. I have colleagues like Elizabeth and Bill O'Lielly. They believe the fucking NIST report! And "oh, the government would never lie to us!" (Well, what about Iraq?) Silence.

The problem is that this 9/11 business is a big lie wrapped in a larger context of lying . . . if people don't understand the concept of "false-flag terrorism" than they will NEVER get the underlying truth behind 9/11. They won't be ready. Have you seen "terror storm?" Read any Webster Tarplay? Painful, yes. Someone here (Dr. J? Consciousness) pointed me to Howard Zinn, too.

What I don't get is how these left gatekeepers, like Amy Goodman, don't come out for 9/11 truth? They know our gov't has done pernicious, evil stuff, they know the history, they know so much, yet are silent on this issue.

Nine-eleven is the issue that dare not speak its name! Consider this site your support group - or me at least.

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"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

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