Dear Ms. Hasselbeck... The 9/11 Conspiracy Visits The View

A little late but oh well. It's not too interesting a read anyway.


Dear Ms. Hasselbeck... The 9/11 Conspiracy Visits The View

Written by Damian Penny

Published May 23, 2007

Thursday, May 24 will be a big day for the creators of Loose Change, the wildly successful Internet “documentary” which says the Pentagon was struck by a missile instead of a plane, the World Trade Center was brought down by a controlled demolition, and that the passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 were taken to Cleveland and then spirited away, presumably to Mars.

Korey Rowe and Dylan Avery, along with Willie Rodriguez, a 9/11 survivor who insists he saw evidence of controlled demolition, will appear on a major network daytime TV show, ABC’s The View. Rosie O’Donnell will thankfully be leaving the show in a few weeks, but as a going away present, ABC is giving her the chance to promote 9/11 conspiracy nonsense to a nationwide audience.

The View’s token conservative, former Survivor contestant Elisabeth Hasselbeck, is arguably the meekest right-winger on television today. If someone like Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, or even (ugh) Ann Coulter was on The View, I have no doubt they’d demolish the Loosers, even with the very loud Rosie O’Donnell trying to back them up. But Hasselbeck? She’s very nice — and, if anything, that’s the problem. I fear she will let herself be steamrollered by Rowe and Avery, whose arguments are quite convincing if you’re completely ignorant of physics, engineering, defence policy and common sense.

Before the Loosers show up on The View, I strongly advise Hasselbeck to take a crash course in 9/11 conspiracy debunking. She can start by watching Screw Loose Change: The Not Freakin’ Again Edition, an annotated rebuttal film which can be viewed here. The blogs Screw Loose Change (not affiliated with the movie) and 9/11 Conspiracy Smasher do a superb job of keeping tabs on the Loosers’ constantly mutating conspiracy theories, and 911Myths features detailed, sensible explanations for nearly every so-called “anomaly” in the so-called “official story” of September 11.

The Popular Mechanics book Debunking 9/11 Myths (reviewed by me here) is an essential read as well, and I encourage Elisabeth to pay particular attention to the ways conspiracy theorists have tried to discredit the magazine. For example, PM editor Benjamin Chertoff has the same last name as Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff - “proof,” therefore, that he’s related to him. More recently, the conspiracy theorists (apparently inspired by an article from Willis Carto's American Free Press) are shrieking that a management "coup" occurred at Popular Mechanics just before their 9/11 article appeared. A-ha! The Illuminati thought of everything, didn’t they?

There are a lot of conspiracy-debunking materials out there, and a skilled debater can thoroughly dismantle the Loose Change filmmakers if she prepares. I’d especially advise Hasselbeck to stand up to Rosie herself, who promised that she would get physicists from Harvard and Yale to appear on The View to back up her theories about controlled demolition. Instead, these no-name dropouts are the best she could do.

But even if the conspiracy theorists are humiliated on The View this Thursday, the fact that they made it onto the show at all is disturbing enough. In the 1980s, tacky talk shows like Donahue and Geraldo regularly allowed neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and Holocaust deniers to shock the audience. Although their beliefs were always challenged, sometimes vigorously, just the fact that they were invited on the air conferred a legitimacy upon their beliefs that they did not deserve. In her seminal book Denying the Holocaust, Deborah Lipstadt writes about how the producers of one show wanted her to debate so-called “revisionists” on the air. They told her they thought it was important that viewers saw “the other side” of the issue.

No matter what happens on The View, the “9/11 truth movement” will have been exposed to millions of daytime TV viewers who will never have heard of it. Their theories will have been deemed a subject worthy of debate, and this nonsense will take another step toward the mainstream.

it is worth noting that this

it is worth noting that this show is NOT happening today.. thanks for the submission..

I read this yesterday...

And loved being compared to "neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and Holocaust deniers."

We don't believe in fascism, we're not racist, and we don't deny 2,973+ people were murdered on 9/11.

It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up

which is exactly why this

which is exactly why this sort of stuff needs to be submitted - so that we can respond to it.. and exactly why it shouldn't be rated a 1 - it is worth us being aware of (not implying that you rated a 1 btw ;) )

I agree...

And I'm glad you didn't imply because I gave it a 10. ;)

It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up

hate to say we toldja so

But this entire fiasco has been a godsend for desperate bedunkers short on material. Let's see where we are now. The View's viewers not going to get to see anyone of the calibre of David Griffin or Kevin Ryan discuss these issues. The View's viewers will understand that some "drop-out filmmaker kids" were GOING to be on the show but that it all fell through for some reason. I'm sure they'll understand when we tell them that Willie Rodriguez "made the final call" on that decision, whatever that actually means considering the Loose Change guys don't work for him. The bedunkers can now spin this to their hearts' content without having to address a single point made by the real truth movement. They will simply whack away at straw men to the delight of whoever still takes them seriously. Many of us were warning that this was not going to turn out well not because we are baised against the LC guys but because we have been following the development of the truth movement and by now we know what we're talking about. For our correct views many of us were voted down, which just goes to show you that you should read hidden posts here, at least until you can decide which users are hidden for good reasons.

The truth movement will survive this sideshow, but only if we learn the right lessons from all of this.


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