Dylan Comments on The View Situation

What's going on? - Official Loose Change Blog

I'm busy all day every day editing the Final Cut. We were supposed to be on The View on the 24th with David Ray Griffin, then that got postponed until June 4th, then that got cancelled completely.

We're just glad that Vito Vilente had an opportunity to appear on the show.

Many things are happening. We would love to tell you, but, we've learned it's best to keep our mouths shut.

So it looks like that is all for The View - at least for now. Unless anything solid comes up for The View again you can consider this our last post on this subject.

Update: Final word is out - Rosie has opted to leave the show early. It is a shame that she has left, but what is even more shameful is that she was so alone in having such a voice on television - perhaps closest only to comedians on comedy central. We will miss you Rosie!

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Big thanks to Rosie for speaking truth to power, and truth to blonde Ann Coulter wannabes.


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Thanks Dylan

.....for keeping us up to date ,and informed. Let's ROCK the USA with the Final cut, and bring back our nation to the greatest on earth.
Thank you guys for all you do, and thank you Rosie for standing up for honest American values.
P.S. Thank you too DZ for all your effort ,and this great web site.

Rosie has the Clout...

to get a prime time special on "the Mother of all issues".

It would be the BIGGEST Media event of the 21st century thus far, and generate mega-dollars for the network that hosts it. Not to mention, it would change the world!
The research is done, the talent is willing, GO FOR IT ROSIE.

www.northtexansfor911truth.com

I wonder...

If Rosie can now interview on say, Alex Jones' show, or Michael Wolsey's show? Since she's no longer under contract? Or, can she put out statements supporting the truth. Not blogs, but real statements. With a press conference, etc...


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i wonder the same thing.

i wonder the same thing. lets see just how much she cares about the issue now. i appreciate Rosie and what shes done but we all know she can do more. same thing with Sheen, it seems he has next to no interest in the issue now based on his complete lack of action(remember he was working on a project with Alex Jones? right.). no, we dont NEED celebs to break 9/11 truth but it wouldnt hurt. sadly thats the world we live in right now.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

and who would give her a new forum or platform?

I have trouble imagining how Rosie is going to go off now and make her own uncensored program on 911 anywhere in "prime time". Who is going to allow her to do that? Not ABC, NBS, or CNN or FOX, etc.
She already had her foot in the door and with great leverage on The View, and tried to use that advantage to slip a little 911 Truth into the msm - and look what happened. Best case - it is just the invisible wall of censorship by the powers controlling the msm doing what we all have been saying is the norm. Worst case she got "an offer that she could not refuse". I am amazed at how brave she has been so far.
There is too much at stake to let Rosie or anyone else make big waves in the main stream media.
At this stage in the game, they aren't gonna all of a sudden think "Okay - too many people are figuring this out on the Internet...we better come clean now and allow it all to come out".....Think about it....

I think our only hope is handing out enough of those free dvds, and using the Internet as long as possible to spread the word, and hope that people GET IT and turn off the TV.
And I agree with another post here - if there was any last glimmer of hope the new DEM Congress was going to save the day - that is clearly not going to happen. We are on our own folks - and have been for quite a while.
I think ALL activism and efforts should be directed at waking up people in the military and law enforcement because in the end, tyrants can only rule by the gun.

"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke, 1729 - 1797

Rosie Incensed By Witch Hunt, Could Leave The View Next Week

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/250507leavetheview.htm
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i guess we can assume that

i guess we can assume that the cowards at ABC didnt give an excuse Dylan? regardless, i agree, a big thank you to Rosie for trying to do whats right. cant say im surprised that it didnt happen though.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

I think Dylan

That you've done a bang up job all along, but that the time has come, to get this freak'n thing RELEASED, and like OUT THERE. Who knows what could come along to screw everything up in the interim... catch my drift. Don't delay more than you absolutely have to, at this point. Stop editing and release it, and then edit some more if you like, for the final final cut. Set the ball in motion is what I'm saying. I know this comment might upset you, and like I've said, you've done a bang up job, but this is just so critically important, that perhaps it's not the kind of thing to hold off on any more, now that it's all but done. No monkey wrenches. If you got the target in sight now, for God's sake SHOOT!

Release Loose Change, Final Cut. Release the historical hounds..
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i AGREE

Before Stepehn jones released his paper, he got threating emails from the dept of homeland security bribing him not to release it, these punks are on top of it! theyll start a damn war to stop the truth or stage further attacks, all these al queada videos coming out, theyre scared and desperate! NOw or never!

has Steven Jones made these

has Steven Jones made these e-mails public? i dont remember hearing about that.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

yeah

stephen jones posted them on the comments section of the old scholars for truth page, he talked about them on video,
http://www.911scholars.org/Comments_Jones_05May2006.html

go on this link and scroll down and read the comments

thanks. is it indeed from

thanks. is it indeed from DHS though? it only says " with government contacts" from what i saw.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

yeah

it said that he can contact "tom hunter from the dhs" typical mafia tactics, send some lacky to make threats

"We were supposed to be on The View on the 24th with DRG"

That's too bad it didn't happen...

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

Dylan's Quote: "Many

Dylan's Quote: "Many things are happening. We would love to tell you, but, we've learned it's best to keep our mouths shut"

I think this quote might have something to do with the Charlie Sheen stuff.

I also wonder if Charlie let that email circulate to confuse the establishment types until the film is finished and released.

who knows.

its an interesting quote none the less....

Well if you combine the

Well if you combine the Charlie Sheen News with this tidbit from a Prisonplanet article:

"We also understand that Rosie is seeking another forum to go fully public on 9/11 and present more evidence that directly contradicts the government's version of events."

You might think that Rosie will narrate the film.

Wonder what that could do considering her absolutley enormous fan base...

Talk about supernova.

Rosie's

So I hear.

My wife just gave me the bad news. No more Rosie on the View. I see the blond air-head is still on though. This is the reason I never watch the boob tube. It's nothing but a propaganda machine. Rosie speaks truth to power and the next thing you know she is gone. This country has gone to hell in a hand basket. I also see where the so-called Democrats gave Bushfraud his war money. Now you can understand why I am a total anarchist. They should build a brick wall around Washington DC and declare it a federal prison. Thomas Jefferson must be turning in his grave.

What is a true Christian?

I wonder if anyone will say....hmm. the 9/11 debate on the view never happened. That is odd. oh well the big fat lezbo is gone. Yeah, we won, the Christians won.

Let me tell you something that is very odd here. I am a Christian, and I believe that I am a true Christian. You would probably think that I want Rosie to burn in hell and to suffer for her evil ways. But that is not the case.

Rosie, who in the eyes of the mainstream Christian community, is evil….in all reality, her stance on the war was more in line with what the true teachings of Jesus are.

Elizabeth, who in the eyes of the mainstream Christian community, is the pure one….in all reality, aligns herself with the teachings of corrupt men and their God of this world - Satan. (see 2nd Corinthians 11:13)
I know there are many un believers here on this site, and they will look at a person like Elizabeth and say "that is a Christian? No thank you."
Well I am here to tell you that Elizabeth is not a true Christian. If she were a true Christian she would know the teachings of the Christ, our Lord and our savior.

Love for Enemies
"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." - Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:43)

I stand before you today and confess, I am a sinner, I am not perfect nor am I blameless. The only way for me to be pure in the eyes of my perfect maker is through the blood of his only begotten son Jesus. To be honest I don't know why he would make that sacrifice for me and the rest of the world but he did. And it is free and it is available to anyone who seeks him out.

The true Church is in you and your relationship with the one true God.

No one can ever take this away from you.

- nick9/11

The verses that hit home for me

Keep the following verses in mind next time you hear the false pieties from members of the cabal and their media minions:

'Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the will of my heavenly Father. When the day comes, many will say to me, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, and in your name perform many miracles?" Then I will tell them plainly, "I never knew you. Out of my sight; your deeds are evil!"' (Matthew 7:21-23)

I went to Dr. Griffin's lecture/sermon

at a beautiful Methodist church in Seattle last Sunday morning and he used that same quote from Matthew.

It was a very good lecture/sermon and I wish that we had caught it on video, but I believe the audio is available, I'll have to find it. I just got home after 12 days on the road.

Dr. Griffin has a few books and one dvd specifically tailored for presenting 9/11 truth to Christians. The movement really needs to start reaching out to the greater religious community as we need them on board to help us peacefully restore our constitutional republic.

It's good to be home and blogging again. (LOL)

I hope that you are all well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

On Christianity and 911 Truth

Please see the discussion of how to bring believers and non-believers together on the following site: http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joseph_s_070414_a_9_2f11__22smok...

Kudos for trying to bring

Kudos for trying to bring DRG on with you.

I agree with other posters that time is of the essence. There's an old saying that "a work of art is never finished but merely abandoned". As an artist your inclination will be to try and make the film "perfect" but perfection is not required. When I released the "third stage" I was not completely satisfied with the result and wanted to add about 5 minutes of additional footage but went ahead and released it anyway, knowing that it was needed to boost interest in the National Days of Truth Action campaign.

Loose Change is obviously of far more importance than my little film but you may want to consider pushing up the release date if at all possible. Another false flag attack and it's likely that no threatre chain will touch it, such will be the political climate.

Anyway good luck and can't wait to see it.

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The Third Stage is brilliant

The Third Stage is brilliant work. and i love the music you use near the end. but is that soundbite of the girl qouting Britney Spears as saying shes sick of things being plugged into her head real? i suppose shes talking about extensions and not some sort of mind control shit, haha.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Thanks Chris. Yeah it's

Thanks Chris. Yeah it's real. I wanted to highlight the absurdity of the what the press focusses on rather than issues like, say, 911. Britney's a strange one alright. There's something very creepy about that whole Mickey Mouse club crew;) Sorta like the new Jackson family.

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haha, it just seemed like a

haha, it just seemed like a weird comment for her to make. but do you know what the song/artist is when Howard Zinn is talking near the end? and great touch on including all the activists near the end, especially the Kristol/Zelikow confrontations. again, great work man, out of all of the 20-30 minute 9/11 films i would say yours is the best.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Yeah it's from "The Island"

Yeah it's from "The Island" soundtrack by Steve Jablonsky. "Welcome to the Island". Actually all the tracks are listed in the credits (during the Tarpley segment) if you're interested in any of the other toons.

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oops, i didnt notice that.

oops, i didnt notice that. thanks man.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Third Stage

I also agree...this movie rocks!
If theres a longer version than the 21 min one, please let me know.
I forward this video to every one I know and have for weeks.
Its short and to the point and uses nothing but mainstream media clips.

I really like the video.

Good job Danse!

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Thanks Lemonhoko, appreciate

Thanks Lemonhoko, appreciate it! Google's been pissing around with the view count like most other 911 vids; many people have complained about it in the comments on the link; it will go up 400 views one day, then remain stagnant for two weeks. Pisses me off :( But so long as people see it and take action, that's the important thing.

No longer version. I've just started work on a new video which I hope to debut in a few months :)

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Please

Please post it here when you get it done. I cant wait.

Im very glad we have people like you that can and will do videos like this. its such a great tool for people like myself to try and wake people up with.

Thanks again Danse!

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Repeat. (Catapult the Propaganda)

Another false flag attack and it's likely that no threatre chain will touch it, such will be the political climate.

Yeah. If Bushco beats ya to the punch, Dylan, you're gonna have a lot of wasted time and money to cry about. You'll be able to put it out on the web, but even on the web there might be a massive backlash from a grief-stricken public. I want you guys to put together the most damning, most air-tight argument you can, but if there is another attack before you release it... Too late.
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Youre right

Youre absolutely right.
If there was another false flag incident, the power of the movie will be greatly diminished amoungst the confussion and blame to come right afterwards.

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I have to say I'm not at all

I have to say I'm not at all surprised that this didn't happen. I expected it. What I didn't expect is all the non-chalance that seems to be surrounding it. Am I the only one who's more than just a little disappointed?
Time is running out, a false-flag attack may be just around the bend, and Final Cut isn't expected to be released until the 2nd week of September. Considering all that can take place in over 3 months, I'd say that's still quite a ways off.
I'm feeling like Dorothy trapped in the witch's castle with the hourglass nearly empty. Does anyone feel a sense of urgency?

Will America will stay in her Prozac, Zoloft induced comma?

I know I do. A movie isn't much good if you are on lock down and you can't go see it. I think something big happened yesterday, it should be very obvious to a lot of people now that the Democrats are now working in conjunction with the President. If you don't then both sides are blind. That is why I spent about an hour hammering away on the left on crooks and liars last night. No one wanted to talk to me about it but no one was trying to slam me for saying that it is true, because how can you deny it now?

You can't say that this war is illegal and immoral but then turn around to keep funding it.

I think that one of two things will happen.

1. America will stay in her Prozac, Zoloft induced comma and the NWO will march us into our demise.

2. America will revolt and then the NWO will openly operate with their plans. This will speed things up fro them. (Call me crazy but I believe that is what Alex Jones is here for.)

damn...

If you're right about Alex Jones, then the world is a scarier place than I imagined. The rabbit hole is too deep for most to bear.
On the other hand, if they actually want us to revolt, why are they trying to stop our movement through counter intelligence? There's a possibility that you may be wrong. I certainly hope so. I still like to think that these maniacs are not above fear. Through their covert actions, I'd say they aren't.

Still, Divine Intervention, if you hear us...please come.

nick911

You aren't very optimistic are you? Geez. What do you suggest we do then? Any reason to take action or are we just doomed? I'm a little more optimistic.

Show "I know it doesn't sound good but.." by nick911

Was anyone really expecting the Dems to deliver?

'Remember that the American people sent a message at the polls, they kicked the Republicans out of power for change, specifically in the directions that the country is heading. So where is the change? There is none because everything is going exactly as planned.'

There is no change for the same reason that there is no real need for an actual 'plan', namely the fact that both parties are responsive not to the voters but to their major financial backers; and they know they can get away with this because they have colluded for more than a century to effectively squash any actual competition in our politics through the passing of restrictive ballot access laws for third parties and independents, the encouragement of media consolidation, which limits the debate to those topics corporate-financed candidates are prepared to discuss, etc. The results have been quite obvious since way before this past week, and way before last November's elections, and I've had a hard time taking seriously those who actually thought the Democrat takeover of Crongress was going to end the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

One of the very best critiques I've read along these lines came out after the Democrats missed a chance to take back Congress in the 2002 midterm elections--it remains 100% relevant since all the points raised then are all applicable today (as indeed they were well before the time this piece was written). I highly recommend it:

http://citypages.com/databank/23/1147/article10891.asp

I've heard those voices too...

After doing psychedelic drugs or at one or two times of severe mental stress.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or make fun of what you are saying. I do think there is a certain reality to what happens in the mind, and there is a certain relationship to the outside world. But I think it is important to filter that mental or spiritual experience through logic, reason, and our understanding of reality. If our intuition contradicts all observables in the outside world, we must question the validity of our intuition. If our intuition contradicts some external observables, but agrees with others, maybe we can give our intuition more weight.

And if you believe in satan you should know that he is very smart, and very deceptive. The bible says that satan masquerades as an angel of light. This means he disguises himself as something/someone good, someone you can trust and believe in. (2 Corinthians 11:13) It also says that satan is the God of this world. (2 Corinthians 4:4)

Satan is the deceiver. Ok, so what makes you so sure that voice in your head isn't him impersonating a "light" spirit? I would say that your intuition about Alex has almost no correlation to observable facts or logic.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Why would they need Alex Jones?

If they wanted to come out of the closet, they'd just do it. They wouldn't need Jones to build up an army of "conspiracy theorists" to oppose them. They want everyone to be 100% asleep. An enemy that is aware of your presence is inherently more dangerous than one who is ignorant.

It makes zero sense to have someone like Alex as a shill. He's woken WAY too many people.

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

We are ALL already slaves, but let us be free.

A large part of the comment above was for you. I don't quite understand it just yet, but Alex is open about the fact that he is a Christian. As a Christian, knowing the things that he knows, being the leader of this movement (somewhat), being someone that is part of spearheading this project (the movie) he would be moving hell and high water to get this film released by Sept 11 th of this year. No questions asked.

I have felt for about a week that something very big is going to happen fairly soon, I don't know what and I don't know when but I feel it. I wish I didn't but I do. I hope I am wrong I really do, and I could be very wrong. Let's all hope for everyones sake that I am wrong.

Let me tell you though that I am not the only one that feels it. Ask someone you trust, you might be surprised to find out their answer.

I know I am being the doomsday guy but there is hope, it just comes in a different form than what everyone thinks of as hope. We will all suffer through this, but the reward for those that make it through with the grace of the lord will be greater than anyone can even imagine. Real freedom doesn't exist here on this Earth, we are ALL already slaves. Some of us just don't know it yet.

You are all here seeking the truth, follow it all the way to its full conclusion.

- nick9/11

Ummm

I agree with most of your statement except on Alex Jones.

To say Alex Jones is NWO because a voice told you while holding your hand on the bible isnt very convincing to many.
Facts, facts...this board is one of facts.

And to accuse Alex of being NWO without hard core facts, shoots down the rest of your credibilty. I was interested in yoiur post and read intently up until the part you said a "voice" told you so.

Well Im 47 years old and done some good things and bad things in my life and never did any of those things because of a voice in my head.

I have nothing against Christianity, to each his own, but its not cool to muddy someones name purely due to a "feeling" or "voice" that only you can hear.

Alex Jones has woken up more individuals single handely to the curruptness of the government than anyone I know..

I find it hard to believe he spends so much effort in making all the films he does and even posts them for free, to be the evil doer behind the curtains as you claim.
It just doesnt float in my waters my friend...

Just so you dont think Im not a christian or dont understand christianity, I was born and babtised a chatholic. Went to sunday school and church every day of my life until I was 14.

As an adult, I have done alot of research on religion. If you have not done the research, please do so. Religion is a man made form of control..simple as that.
I do believe there is a maker..but not what MAN tells us it is.

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I respect your opinion.

I respect your opinion, I really do. Like I said I don't understand it myself but this is what I heard. I wasn't looking for that answer, like I said I am in shock my self and I'm trying to figure out what it means? I wish I could tell you, but it tis the only thing I can follow from now on. The only thing I can do is tell you the truth about it. Take it or leave it but for me not to tell the truth because of fear of ridicule would go against the entire spirit of this site. I'm not saying that this is a "theory" it is just my personal experience and I have to share it. like I said the only thing I can gather at this point is that this will speed things up is some way.

I'm not going on a smear campaign, I'm just not going to listen anymore. But it does leave a bad taste in my mouth that's for sure.

As far as my religion goes the only research I need is right in my heart. And that doesn't come from any other man than me and Jesus. Sorry but the Church for the most part (There are still some, but not many.) is dead. That is why Ann Coulter is loved by "Christians" these days.

- nick9/11

Respect back

Respect back to ya.

Its had to talk about something as personal as religion. I respect that and your views.
I think that goodness no matter what religion it derives from is a good thing.

Whether you believe in christianity or not, respect and love for your fellow human-being crosses all beiiefs.

Goodness is not restricted by relgion, and sadly, neither is evil.

May your good spirit guide you to the truth.

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Another intuitive opinion on Alex Jones

I am not a christian, although my beloved mother is. Call it whatever you want, but I also feel deep in my bones that Alex Jones is phony. (No, I am not just pissed about AJ's war on Halloween.) What did it for me was his astounding broadcast recorded summer 2001 pleading with the NWO not to fly planes into buildings. That was too cute. Nobody had that specific knowledge except insiders.

What is AJ doing? Well, he is doing a good job of confusing the issue by directing anger towards mythical 18th century societies like the "illuminati". He also is harsh on US bluebloods like the Bushes. However, the nature of the people at the top of the pyramid is carefully avoided. Want the truth? www.anti-neocons.com

There is

There is an illuminati, even George Washington mentioned it in one of his speeches.

Everyone knew the Terrorist wanted to hit the WTC towers, they tried once before. Bush and other world leaders had a warning during one of the G-8 conventions that "terrorists" were planning on flying a plane into the building they were going to meet at. So they changed the location to a Luxury Liner and had speed boats ready to run them off incase of an incident. That was on the news.

It wouldnt be that hard to put things together and predict something like that would happen.

I clearly remember talking to my brother about terrorist aming to hit the WTC towers a year or two before it happened, He remembered it too.
I dont think it is way out there for someone to have predicted that before it happened, especially since Alex was really into that type of thing for many many years.
Heck, he was all over exposing the OKL Bombing, I really doubt hes on "their" side.

But Im open to some facts if you have them.

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Oh

Oh..just wanted to comment on this statement you made.

"However, the nature of the people at the top of the pyramid is carefully avoided."

Thats probably the only reason he isnt "suicided" yet.

Hes not dumb.

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Think a bit deeper.

If I started pleading with the U.S. government right now to not drop a nuke on DC and blame it on Iran, would you think that was "too cute"?

This isn't rocket science. Once you know their goals, once you know their M.O., once you are awake and know what to look for... Prediciton becomes easy. Alex has been a "conspiracy theorist" for a long time. He's been paying attention to all the BS Nazi legislation, he's been studying the Columbines, and OK Cities, and 9/11's, and Virginia Techs. He's been conscious of the NWO since before 9/11. Read the patterns in the enemy's behavior, predict their next move.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

You are always worthy in your Fathers eyes.

"Just so you dont think Im not a christian or dont understand christianity, I was born and babtised a chatholic. Went to sunday school and church every day of my life until I was 14."

I too was Catholic too at one point. I got to experience a bit of the darker side of that Church. It was my Sunday school teacher that was preparing me for my first communion, than you God that you wee looking out for me and nothing happened but lest just say that I could feel the beast breathing down my neck and it was not cool to say the least. I think the catholic church has some major problems.

Let me clear something up for everyone here the blood and the body of Christ is available for all who seek it. At all times under all circumstances. That was the Lords sacrifice and his alone, don't ever let anyone tell you other wise. You are always worthy in your Fathers eyes, and he is always ready with open arms for your return to him.

Never forget this!

This is the true hope, this is the true freedom from the bondages of sin, and it is all for you for free.

- nick9/11

Yes and no.

As an adult, I have done alot of research on religion. If you have not done the research, please do so. Religion is a man made form of control..simple as that.
I do believe there is a maker..but not what MAN tells us it is.

Just doing "research" on religion won't necessarily get you very far. On this issue, I'm coming from the position of someone who practices meditation. You can read every book and scripture ever written about Buddhism or Yoga but until you actually DO it, your understanding will be very limited, completely hollow. You cannot "learn" an experience, you must LIVE an experience. You must experience an experience!

I think that organized religion tends to be an oppressive control structure. "Spirituality" on the other hand... I find that the more meditation I do, the more dedicated I become to practicing martial arts, the more "liberated' I feel. Gaining more self-control frees one from the control of others. I've found that many of the activities most religions warn about (sex, drug use, aggression, etc...) are not inherently "evil". The problem is that we engage in these activities unconsciously, compulsively. We function without awareness, addicted to automatic behaviors, and we are therefore predictable and easy to control. When you become aware and mindful of your own actions, you open up the opportunity to CHOOSE your responses, rather than just reacting according to your cultural, psychological, or hormonal programming.

Obviously this is an inward, personal process, and trying to make it a group activity is likely to pervert the results.

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

I feel something coming too.

When one opens the mind and becomes attentive to reality, patterns begin to emerge.

You know that speech Morpheus gives in The Matrix?

Morpheus : I know..._exactly_ what you mean. Let me tell you why you're

here. You're here because you know something. What you know,

you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your

entire life. That there's something _wrong_ with the world.

You don't know what it is, but it's there...like a splinter

in you're mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has

brought you to me. Do you _know_ what I'm talking about?

I've had that splinter in my mind since I was 13 or 14. Maybe my whole life. An inconsistency here, hypocrisy there, an unexplained tragedy... Your subconscious mind picks up on anomalies, and they resonate. They begin to form a pattern. Then you break through to a new level of awareness. You realize that those seemingly random events were really connected. You realize that what seemed chaotic was really by design.

Once you "wake up" and know what facts are significant, you know what to look for and how to apply it within a larger framework. It becomes easy to predict that "something big is coming", because all the evidence supports that idea.

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Seconded.

I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you, a world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries, a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

Modern prophets ;-)
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interns < internets

I feel it.

But I'm not expecting LC to save me from it. We have responsibilities too.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Rosie

People can be stopped. The truth won't be stopped! It maybe many people can't or won't see the truth till they are standing in the shade of a mushroom clowd after GWB dropps the big one on us somewhere in the US. Rosie took up the call to arms. She may not be done yet. Still others will pick up the flag and move forward. Thats what the true citizens of this country do.

Can't Beleive It.

It's Rosie's life.

She's free to do as she wishes.

But ya know what - she let us down.

She says she's into our cause and our cause very much needed some air time (and was about to get it.) and she let a 75 pound blonde chase her off the air.

I'm sorry - thats how I feel.

There was 5 seconds left on the clock and she had the ball for the winning shot and walked off the court instead.

When it comes to something as important as this in front of a potential audience of 30 million I think you have to suck it up and proceed.

I support Rosie 100%, but...

I might get voted down for agreeing with Badmachine, but from a distance it looks like Rosie really dropped the ball here. On her blog, fans were saying things like "if it's gonna be this emotionally draining, maybe you should just walk away" and Rosie was agreeing. What those fans don't understand is that us low level activists are breaking our backs to reach as many people as possible, whereas Rosie just walked away from 30 million per. And why? Because of frickin Elizabeth? Because Rosie doesn't like the emotional conflict? Well if she's not ready to be courageous then she'd better pick another movement. If it turns out ABC told her to get out early, I'll take this back, but in the meantime, I feel like she chickened out.

She has been absolutely amazing for what she has done so far, and I hope she gets a new show or continues to push the truth in some fashion or other, but what is more likely now is that she'll be pushed into irrelevancy. This was the time and place to get the word out big time. Now we're back in the trenches.

Speaking more generally, it seems like there's a lack of communication between those working at the top and bottom of this movement. It makes sense that those at the top don't want to show their hand, but at the same time it's frustrating for those of us at the bottom to be kept in the dark. For example, what is Rosie strategy right now? Here we are, a nationwide army of truthers ready to help, and yet we have very little idea about what's going on.

Show "you need to stfu!!! what the" by inside

No, I have the sense that they cancelled her 9/11 program

and so she quit. That's the way it looks to me.
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But in that case,

wouldn't it be better for her to just come out and say that's the reason, to make more people aware of the degree to which censorship is practiced by the media in this country, particularly when it comes to this topic?

Rosie did not let anyone down

There is alot behind the scenes we don't know. Rosie has not let anyone down. The things going on- LC was gonna be on- then not- then on again- then maybe- then not but the Pres had a conference just in case pre-empting the show , her asking for too much money so to be sure to be denied another year on the show, her taking off suddenly on Thursday- contrary to what BW says Rosie did not plan that- if LC and W. R. were gonna be there sure as hell Rosie was. Can't you see that something big has happend? The liars are scared to death that the truth get out. If there was not a shred of truth and everyone that believed it was wearing a tin foil hat then it would not have been censored. Yes! Censored- on the view! And Rosie was the catalyst to get it there. She is dangerous to the Bush admin. They got the truth taken off, they got Rosie out and they had a press conference to cover it up. She let no one down. She was forced out fast.

Rosie and William Rodriguez.

Regardless of your opinion on whether Rosie let us down or not by leaving the View, I'd sure think that now she is out of her contract, she could tell us the truth about what was going on at ABC regarding the 9/11 guests. William Rodriguez says "he" made the final call, and I'd like to know his version of events as well. Why would he cancel if ABC was allowing him to go on the air? Now he says he's helping first responders. I can't blame that, but I'd like to know the full story. Lastly, the guys at Loose Change say they are going to keep their mouth shut about what is going on? I'd like to know why they've come to that conclusion, even if it is in the best interest of the movement. I thought we were the TRUTH movement here. I say we get the full story about ABC, Rosie, William Rodriguez, and the View. I don't see a downside to that.

Yup. That's the way I read it too.

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You walk the walk

I am not a Christian for too often I see what you said many that said they were do what you said.

It is a hard walk doing what you do. I do follow a lot of the tenets for they are true in life.

It is Based on my following as well.

I am sad for Rosie but happy as well. I been in her shoes where you fight for what is right and get ditched.

I was no fan of gays but she showed me a different side of it. The side I seen personally was not so good.

I wish someone here could tell her one lady wishes her well.

no fan of gays? can i ask

no fan of gays? can i ask why and what that even means? im not going to attack you and im not even gay myself but it disturbs me when people make statements like that. not exactly very Christian, love thy neighbor, do not judge lest you be judged and all that good stuff you know?

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Chill.

Not the time or place to chase this down. Seek out your own barriers and figure out why they shoot up in reaction to such statements. Then try to bring the notion of acceptance into your own mind.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

"Seek out your own barriers..." yeah, right

Look, Chris had this handled and I wouldn't even be chiming in if you hadn't happened by with that remark. What if she'd said "I never liked Black people before"? Or "Jews before"? I guess that would have been a chance for him to learn about his barriers, huh?

9/11 Truth is SQUANDERING what few opportunities we have to work with experienced activists in various wings of the progressive community because of our inability to rein in shit like this. I'm sorry, but 9/11 Truth is far, far too important to let bigots fuck it up.

thank you casseia. its

thank you casseia. its unbelieveable that you even have to explain that. MY barriers? hahahaha

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Thank you Casseia

You said that better than I could have. The 9/11 truth movement is comprised of people from ALL different walks of life, and ALL need to be embraced, for we are all one.

As a GAY MAN myself, and one damn masculine one if you ask me (haha), I pride myself in realizing that my "gayness" is downright trivial compared to my QUEST FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD. I don't define myself by anything except for my love of life, truth, peace, and freedom.

This is why Mark Dice was treading on thin ice for awhile with his anti-gay rhetoric. I'm glad he toned it down (at least i think he did).

A new dawn draws near....

Basically what I'm saying...

Is that gays and homophobes, minorities and biggots, liberals and conservatives ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER if we want to overcome our common problem. You need to stop attacking them too. It works BOTH ways, I'm sorry to inform you.

Divide and conquer, remember??? You think just because you are gay or gay-friendly, or because you have a black girlfriend that you are somehow morally superior to others. I suggest you think outside of the box a bit, and try to really understand and accept people who don't believe what you believe. No matter how it seems from your POV, I guarantee you don't have the moral high-ground. Nor do I.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

There is a misconception at work here.

This has nothing to do with feeling "morally superior," and I have to say, that statement reads as sheer projection. Friends call friends on their shit. Compassion is not always doing the "nice" thing. Chris quite tactfully asked for a clarification of a statement that probably offended and alienated some of our gay and lesbian fellow Truthers, and it sounds to me like Fancy Lady handled the criticism just fine. Working together does NOT mean we have to sit by silently while people thoughtlessly (or even deliberately, though not in this case) express hatred for our Truth colleagues -- be they gay, of color, working class, female, Christian, or whatever. *That* is how we handle "divide and conquer." Working together does not mean shutting up -- working together takes WORK.

I guess I read a different comment than you guys.

The comment I read by Fancy Lady was being supportive of Rosie, and expressing a new level of respect for her sexuality.

As for the WORK in working together, I think being less reactionary and more conscious of one's OWN behavior would go a long way toward making us more effective.

Yes, Lady's laguage was clumsy but the message was positive. What I saw was a knee-jerk "Gaystapo", attack dog response, that ignored what Fancy Lady was actually saying.

That's my opinion. That's how it looked to me. Hopefully someone can learn something from all this arguing we've done.

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Show "Basically what I'm saying..." by CONSCIOUSNESS

Reading comprehension.

am not a Christian for too often I see what you said many that said they were do what you said.

It is a hard walk doing what you do. I do follow a lot of the tenets for they are true in life.

It is Based on my following as well.

I am sad for Rosie but happy as well. I been in her shoes where you fight for what is right and get ditched.

I was no fan of gays but she showed me a different side of it. The side I seen personally was not so good.

I wish someone here could tell her one lady wishes her well.

I'm not justifying homophobia, or racism, or any other form of discrimination. I'm saying that maybe we are having a knee-jerk, INTOLERANT reaction to another person. Also, the whole idea of the post was ingnored. What I read was this person giving support for Rosie, and saying that Rosie has changed his/her opinion of homosexuals FOR THE BETTER.

Pushing on someone will rarely change their beliefs or opinions.

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

my reply

I tend to talk quickly so I am not clear at times.

I talked against gays. I knew one that is a very bad person to say the best of them. I did not know of any that were good people. I bought the stereo type for a long time but Rosie is changing that. I read her blog every day now.

I still rather not that gays exist but I also can see where there might be a reason for it to exist.

I like Rosie very much for what she has one and may still do.

I have been where she was and she could do nothing but shut up and suffer the next few weeks or walk with her pride in tact. I would vote for walking as she did.

My praise to Rosie.

No offense fancy lady, but

No offense fancy lady, but you sound ridiculous. You know a "very bad person" who happens to be gay and therefore you have a bad opinion of gays?

Ever heard of collective punishment? It's what the Nazis used to do to communities under their control, and what Israel is currently doing to the Palestinians. I'm hetero but I have a real problem with gay-bashing; not only does it harm people for something they can't control, it contributes to an atmosphere of hatred and intollerance and distracts people from issues that actually matter. If people think gays are immoral that's their business, but if you truly believe in the teachings of Jesus you will love thy neighbor and judge not, as Chris pointed out. It should be a non-issue from the get-go.

Here's a nugget you may find interesting. Homosexuality is only taboo in certain societies. It's also common amongst animals, including dolphins and chimps. Why is it taboo in ours? Here's one anthropologist's take:

"Longhouse society might even have been polygynous. The evidence for violent death among men may indicate that there was a skewed female-to-male ratio among the living, allowing wealthy stockbreeders to behave like their own stud animals.

Speculating further, conditions for homosexual liaisons were probably still more abject, while the lives of intersex individuals may have been brief. I believe that the Neolithic period saw the true birth of homophobia; the Old Testament, which is in part the manifesto of a rural farming society, is stiff with it. Domestic animals display homosexual behavior relatively often, but it is not "functional" in the eyes of the stockman; if the whole herd did it, the system would collapse. Therefore, as eagerly as the fertilizing activities of the stud bull are encouraged, alternative, "dysfunctional" behavior is not. There is evidence that the birthrate of intersex animals goes up under domestication; such animals were probably not allowed to live long and may have been taboo as food, due to worries about contagion. Hu- man children born with similar ambiguities might well have been treated the same way.

The new permanence of houses and villages heralded the establishment of a number of binary oppositions, between wild and domestic, inside and outside, male and female, that took meaning from each other. These binaries were conceived of as necessary opposites. The products of nature were domesticated and brought inside, while the products of culture were spread outward, into the wild. The boundary was always clearly marked, by a door or a fence. Ownership was stressed to a far greater degree than in previous societies. The very decoration of the pottery betrays an obsession with demarcation. The definition of the sexes and of sexual activity was no exception to this pattern and was soon symbolized in an explosion of massive anthro- pomorphic landscape monuments."

You're welcome :)

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you know whats really sad?

you know whats really sad? that a non-believer, heathen agnostic like myself is more accepting than someone who claims to follow the teachings of jesus. :-) though thats nothing new. great post.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

You guys aren't listening to yourselves.

Nobody was "gay-bashing". Learn to fucking read. Then get your self righteous nose out of the air.

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

no, you aren't listening to

no, you aren't listening to FancyLady. what she said was patently homophobic. what does it say about you that you get so angry at me for simply pointing that out and trying to figure out why? self righteous? i think you got that covered buddy. "learn to fucking read" or something asshole.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

and for the record, i

and for the record, i usually agree with what you say but if your gonna come at me sideways like that you can go fuck yourself. all i did was ask the woman a question and i have to hear your shit because of it? no thanks. now leave me the fuck alone and vote down all my posts in silent protest like everyone else who hates me does.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Did you get fully up to date

with everything else I said on this matter before you responded to my last impatient post? Read this thread again, and I think you'll find out why I've decided to get rude.

Hypocrisy.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

you came at me first.

you came at me first. remember? you had no good reason to get rude with me. hypocrisy indeed. now leave me the fuck alone.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

I'm flattered that you usually agree with me.

I think you make some valuable contributions too.

Since you often agree with me, maybe you've noticed that there is a theme to my arguments. Nearly all of my criticism is constructive, meant to encourage better results and more understanding. I think Lady slipped an ignorant sounding phrase into her post, but the general idea was that she was giving Rosie support, and saying that Rosie had IMPROVED her opinion of homosexuals. I think Lady was being courageuos enough to admit that her long held beliefs should maybe be re-examined.

If people are trying to hijack the Truth movement and turn it into the Anti-Zionist movement, that's one thing. Simply granting "membership" to individuals who have different beliefs and experiences should be no problem though. This should be our goal, in fact.

I don't see the need to go into attack dog mode every time someone sneezes in a way that doesn't say "I LOVE THE GAYS!!!". Her comment was positive.

Homophobes Vs. SUPER RABID, HYPER-SENSITIVE, REACTIONARY "homophobe bashers". When will the bashing end? She was giving Rosie props. You could have just let the ignorant comment pass. This is 9/11 Truth, not save the gays. We all have to work together.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

yep, so NOT constructive

yep, so NOT constructive this time though, and not only because it was pointed at me. i could care less if she says -"I LOVE THE GAYS", but what she said was disturbing to me and i simply asked her about it. and you got annoyed by it for some strange reason. what does that say about you? so im a "homophobe basher" for asking the woman a CIVIL fucking question? haha. i even told her i wasnt attacking and simply asking a question. do you always let ignorant comments pass? or do you speak up whenever you feel like it? you seem more than willing to run your mouth, i dont see people jumping down your throat for it like you did here with me. what caused you to come at me over some civil questions i had NOT FOR YOU but for somebody else? and i agree, it was courageous of her to say her opinion was changed because of Rosie but that doesnt negate the pure ignorance of the bulk of her comments on the subject. i have a question though, you think IM hyper sensitive? why did you feel the need to come at me so hard for defending gays(specifically) against ignorance? whats the big deal? would you have done that if i defended blacks or jews in the same context? because i can tell you that i dont let blatant racism slide either. sorry. would you have come at me if i defended jews like you did here over me defending gays? be honest. why does it bother you so much to the point that you felt the need to say all this bullshit? seriously, what the fuck are you so sensitive over the gay thing for? all i did was ask the woman a question and you get all up in arms and try to pretend like im the one with the problem here. get over it already.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

...

When I see someone being ganged up on for what seems to me like a stupid reason, yeah, I tend to offer my thoughts and help.

And, my response WOULD have been the same whether it was gays, jews, blacks, beaners, chinks, honkeys...

"I used to not like the blacks, but ________ changed my opinion..."
"I used to hate Chinese people, but then I learned ________..."
"I never liked white-trash, but then a redneck saved my life..."

You guys completely missed what she was saying.

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Who's the attack dog?

"Homophobes Vs. SUPER RABID, HYPER-SENSITIVE, REACTIONARY "homophobe bashers". When will the bashing end? She was giving Rosie props. You could have just let the ignorant comment pass. This is 9/11 Truth, not save the gays. We all have to work together."

First of all, I don't see any "super rabid, hyper-sensitive, reactionary 'homophobe bashers'" here. I see several people who DON'T think letting "ignorant comments" slide is necessary or productive. This isn't the "save the gays" movement (not to be patronizing or anything -- do you call the Civil Rights Movement the "save the colored people" thing?) but in my view it IS a movement about working together with others from a basic position of respect for their human rights, which includes their right to be gay, straight, bi, or asexual. This benefits us all in the long run and it costs us nothing but honesty.

I think it's likely that Fancy Lady knows more gay folks than she thinks she knows. It's very sad that the gay person she recognizes was abusive to her. It's also very sad that the other gay people in her life are camouflaged, which has led her to make inappropriate generalizations. An environment like 911blogger can be helpful to people like Fancy Lady, because as she works with us toward our Truth-related goals, she may have the opportunity to meet out gay people, as well as straight people like me and Chris who make a point of speaking up for our gay allies.

Look guys

Look guys I never intended to start this flame war.

Actually the person who I knew was gay did not abuse me for I am older than the person and yes as I think of it the one who did abuse me was both. Bi.

No I don't know any more gays as I really don't talk to that many people and all that I do talk to are not gay.

This is not a blog about gays and I should not have made that comment. I was giving Rosie a complement making me look at my concept of gay and I was reading about what it was before I watched Rosie. She just made me think.

All I wanted to say was to complement Rosie for all things. I just watched her updated blog and she is doing ok and made it clear in her way what Alex said about what went on is true.

So Please end this debate and I am sorry I started it. I never intended to get this going.

I will keep my mouth shut on the subject from now on.

PEACE OUT.

no, thank you for your

no, thank you for your honesty FancyLady and im sorry if i came off as confrontational in any way. i only asked you where you were coming from because i rarely have a chance to engage religious people on contentious issues like homosexuality, war, stem cells etc. and usually take the chance to pick their brains when i do. i meant no offense and only meant to hear your point of view. no offense but i found your initial statements a bit disturbing though not out of the ordinary for people who call themselves christians which is why i asked you in the first place. i understand this isnt the place for this kind of debate but i couldnt let those statements slide without at least asking you to explain a bit. it seems like im always sticking up for muslims and gays as society seems to deem it ok to bash these two groups. ive always stuck up for the "little guy" so to speak, haha. and you should never feel sorry for starting a healthy debate.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

I get it

I get it. My family tended to follow the Christian viewpoint but I am not Christian for I find they have such viewpoints. I can't help it if I feel that way even though I know it is not logical. I hope one day I will work out the issue.

I think there is more than one life as I posted and we forget each lifetime. I also think the NWO types don't forget and why it goes on from one generation to the next. This is a type of counseling which helps people recall other times. In fact I think the place that promoted such was taken over by them and now is used by reversing it to control people.

I don't know the facts of that myself but maybe one day if we get thought this I will know.

Also just to note in my time as a kid and I was going through abuse I changed schools so often I did not learn what I should have. Abuse also does not help one to learn either. In my time abuse was not know and hidden. I had no recourse to get help at that time.

I think Rosie is a lot like me in many ways. I feel a kinship to her somehow. Like I understand her totally for she is me in many ways.

I can have a big mouth too and have got to speak up even when I cause an unintended uproar. I want what is right and good. But like many I feel useless in the fight for what is right. I can't afford to buy DVDs to pass out. In fact I spent hours today trying to burn my first DVD and so far it has failed each time. I am trying a new program if so I can't burn DVDs either.

Peace.

Alright, I surrender.

I would speak up for my gay allies too, if I felt they were being attacked. Just as I stood up for my less "cultured" ally.

One thing I've realized since "waking up" is that I'm going to have to learn to work with, and have a deeper level of acceptance for people who might have repelled me before.

We all have a common goal now, and this is a great opportunity to foster new levels of tolerance. And tolerance is a two way street. For "liberals" or "intellectuals" to assume that they by default own the moral high ground is just as biggoted as the classic forms of intolerance.
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

I don't want to get into my

I don't want to get into my personal history. Let's say I have been abused and I know one who is gay that abuse little kids. It was my only experience of it as well as I grew up with people who called gays names.

I am working on my wacky perceptions so yes I know about the animals and I have been reading the whys and wherefores as well so I am working on it. I also think there is more than one life and some souls just might like being one sex better than another.

Actually I don't act like a girl myself more of a tomboy. I don't like makeup and such frilly things very much. I am just me a spirit in a body that I know is female and maybe one lifetime I will be male. Who knows.

A lot of what I put above is getting too uncomfortable for me personally as it brings up bad memories so lets stay to the subject of this blog. What is important is the truth and I am learning the truth.

I stand For Rosie and I wish I could meet her and give her a hug for standing strong for the truth and losing a friend. I have done the same.

To be honest I am scared to death of the future for me, myself and I can't do much. I have PTSD and the best I can do is write congress which I do.

BIG HUG for FancyLady

I feel your pain, sister, keep growing and you'll (we'll) be ok.

I respect you for your attempts at honest and open communication here.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

You have that right. I guess

You have that right. I guess I am not too much of a tomboy. I just went shopping and spent too much.

I am just me and I am very concerned that I may not get the future that I planned as I am older I probably will be on the list to be eliminated. But I chosen to look on the positive side that with some smarts we can win. The problem as I see is they have the big bombs and so the truthers has to be careful in waking up the people to avoid another false flag op. I am sure that is why Bush was on the other day. You should have heard me yell at the TV. I knew the show was not going to be on but I turned it on to see what would happen. I had read here someone predicted what happened it was preempted. To me that confirmed it all right then and there.

I went out shopping with my youngest daughter

for several hours (spent too much, too) and missed another somewhat pointless flame war (aren't they all?).

As a skinny long-haired teen-aged boy who loved to wear baby blue clothes I got hit on alot by gay men for a while in the middle 70's whenever I went into one town in my county. Needless to say, as a heterosexual male, this was more than a little off-putting. A few years later when I started dancing in clubs and then bars in San Francisco and got to know some gay men who didn't hit on me and were very cool I re-learned that one should never make generalizations about any group of individuals.

When I started my online life over a decade ago I learned how easy it is to mis-understand people in writing and to always seek clarification and to give people the benefit of the doubt. I hope that everyone will be a little more tolerant and a little slower to condemn others until they are truly certain what someone means. There are plenty of individuals who have made their views on certain subjects very clear and are deserving of a certain level of scorn (I think most here can figure out who I'm talking about), let's save our scorn for those people (if we really have to scorn anyone), shall we?

We have alot of work to do in order to get our country back and we need everyone we can get to be as involved as possible to acheive our goal. Let's support each other and all work together and not go out of our way to look for reasons to divide ourselves. I know that this is easier said than done, but it is well worth the extra effort.

I love you all very much.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

You have that exactly right

I agree.

It takes time to do anything worth while.

My DVD player is not working so far. I just learned I have to change the files to DVD format. I did have Terror Storm in that format but it will not burn. So I am back writing congress.

censorship, pure and simple

It doesnt take a genius to see this is pure censorship, its purpose is to prevent americans from learning any alternative viwe to the official conspiracy theory of 9-11

Rosie leaves Comedy Central Political Comedians in the Dust!

Nobody in the mainstream media has brought attention to 9/11 Truth like Rosie has. All the wimpy political comedians on Comedy Central aren't qualified to even wash her car. Oooo, the president lied about the Iraq war, big frickin' deal, we knew he was lying from day one. It doesn't take any guts to point out the obvious. We love you Rosie. Keep speaking out.

I think Rosie left over the cancellation of the 9/11 truth

segment. Nowhere in the MSM however, is there any MENTION that she was about to host a show on the 9/11 "conspiracy" issue, and that it was cancelled the day she left to "be with her partner on her birthday", at the same moment that Bush held his "Terra" press conference. I don't know about you, but I see a connection. Her quitting was in protest against ABC who had decided to cancel her plans to roll out 9/11 truth on the view. I don't see any one way to look at it.

So it's a "big deal" in the MSM, but they're chalking it up to her little spat with EH.

I hope she comes out with the truth about what REALLY happened.. That alone would make some big time waves right now.

I think she's well suited to a radio show. Rosie? If you're listening, consider a radio show, where you can say what you want and need to say, about everything, the whole kit and caboodle. You speak for many.
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You are reading my mind. I

You are reading my mind. I agree 100%.
Ok I too wanna say Rosie! If you are reading, what about sirius radio where you really can say what you want?

Rosie radio

she'd be more than welcome here:
www.homegrownradionj.com

A Satellite Radio show for Rosie O'Donnell!

She'd have the listeners that's for sure!
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Wouldn't THAT just burn the Neocon's ASSES!

Suddenly Rosie appears on the airwaves, with TWENTY million listeners now, talking 9/11 truth and everything!!! LOL Oh wouldn't you just LOVE the pathetic irony in that? :-D
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A conservative?

Hasselbeck is not a conservative; Ron Paul is a conservative; big difference.

shes a Fox News

shes a Fox News "conservative".

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Bush's preemptive strike

I found it interesting that Bush's press conference was on instead...

Yes

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