Barrie Zwicker on another Winnipeg channel

sorry for the delay folks...still recovering

here is Barrie Zwicker on another local TV station for almost 20 minutes. it's currently airing every 90 minutes until Monday

....more event goodies to come.....

It's unfortunate

that Barrie in this interview, and many other truthers before him, confuse so many details in their presentation of 9/11 truth on public tv. Barrie misidentifies "Lone Gunmen" as "Lone Ranger," and says the show appeared "years" before 911 (it was months -- March 2001). This is a trivial detail not worth mentioning on precious public airtime.

He also misidentifies the "47" steel columns in the WTC as "57" columns.

Also, I like to believe I'm an open-minded person -- but Zwicker sounds like a bit of a crank in this interview. I mean, I know what he's talking about because I follow these things -- but to an outsider I'm sure he sounds like a crank. His line of reasoning is difficult to accept, unless you already accept it.

For example, he wants to convince people that initial newspaper reports on September 12 that had scientists testifying to "why" the WTC towers collapsed were somehow coordinated because expert opinion appeared so soon (and presumably the event was more mysterious than this should allow). He's suggesting the scientists' responses were scripted? In fact, he makes some wacky statements about the "best Hollywood script writers" being assembled to concoct a storyline for 9/11...

Also, we know who "Harley Guy" is, but don't begin a chat on public tv by resting your case on the fact that a guy in a HD shirt talked to Fox News on 9/11.

Also, all sorts of things are possible, but Truthers should not venture guesses about the size and nature of the conspiracy. It's nothing but guesswork, so leave it out. Focus on known facts, not what-if scenarios. Give people a hook to hang their skeptical coats on.

I don't know how many times I've said this at 911blogger, but: USE TALKING POINTS. Make sure these points appeal to a viewer who knows NOTHING about 9/11. Give viewers a thread, not the whole mangy sweater. And if you're going to appear on tv for 20 minutes, ask them to show specific images from 9/11 (squib shots of the towers, building 7 collapsing). Like, why didn't Barrie talk about BBC and Building 7, while the interviewer was talking about the journalism business? Bring clips.

I do not agree.

He did great. Barrie Zwicker is perhaps the best spokesman for 911 truth.

half empty or half full?

Maybe we should put in a call to have them pull it

No, don't pull it

My comments have to do with the fact that I know our spokespeople can do better on tv if they just prepare adequately. I think often people like Zwicker and Tarpley have spent so much time talking to Truthers that they find it difficult to gear down into another speed. Maybe that's what happened here.

Of course, as the cliche goes, all publicity is good publicity.

But let's try to think of our message as it would sound to someone who knows nothing about 9/11.

To get people started

always mention that the 9/11 Commission Report was a whitewash, and that 2/3 of NYC residents believe this, and that other public opinion polls show very little confidence in the report. That prepares people for the idea that what you are about to say is not so far out in left field as it may sound to the novice.

ok, you do what you think is

ok, you do what you think is best and let others do the same.
We don't need to have a set pattern, just get the truth out!

I agree.

I'm down with Zwicker, but he could have done better here. We need to strive to make every appearance devestating to the OCT. He came off very speculative....

"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

I think you're being a tad overly critical

But generally speaking you are right. No one should simply "wing it" when given an opportunity like that. They should very much prepare with talking points and make sure all their facts are straight.
On the 11th day, of every month.

Criticism is spot-on

They need to be much better than they have been--less bias + less speculation + more preparation + be keeping themselves on top of all the research.

These 9/11 spokespeople have SUCH an impact on the effectiveness of the 9/11 Truth movement.
In my opinion, Fetzer and Tarpley have been brutal on the M.S.M.--even detrimental at times to the movement.

Good news, but it could have been better!

He was relaxed and did make a couple of errors that may come to haut him later, shame because otherwisee it was good!
I especially liked the end about the dirty bomb!

He said 747 when he meant 767 I don't think anyone mentioned that yet.

He does a much better job in the upcoming doco "SHADOWPLAY", faultless!!

We are overly critical when people are under enormous pressure during FOX interviews etc, unfortunately this was not the case and really there is no excuse for the amount of errors here!

The average person probably won't notice all the errors, so we might get away with it this time!

Kind regards John

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The people watching

and waiting to pick us apart arent "average people". They're professional propagandists.
"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Precisely! Ok it's half emty....

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This interview may be part of history

I have an alternative opinion regarding the effectiveness of this interview. Allow Zwicker the freedom to make his own decisions as to how he persues 9/11 Truth. The most effective advocates for this cause will naturally become the most viewed. I thought this was one of the dynamic messages on 9/11 Truth. The idea of a false flag attack on US with nuclear bomb prior to 11/2008, and subsequently blaming Iran & attacking Iran -- this is breaking incredible new ground!


Awake the future

When I talk with people about September 11 I tell them I know we can't do anything about 911. That crime is over. Our purpose is to keep it from happening again.

They are surprised by the Truth Movement. The crimes of the criminals are on the street. That is our job. Never Again.

War Makes War, Peace Makes Peace Sitting Bull

Great points

You make some very logical insights simuvac!

Public face of the Movement can't seem to get organized.

Richard Gage seems to be the only center of tactical action. Even the Truth Squads aren't being as systematic as they should. If we could just get a bit more disciplined, and string together actions that have a desired goal, we'd be moving much faster. Every "leader" of the movement who is getting face time should have their talking points down by now... Luke and W.A.C. should have edited both incriminating Giuliani clips together before they even released the latest bust, then every Truther should have spammed the clips all over the web and to every local media outlet. We should be starting to see what tactics will be useful by now... Organization doesn't mean centralization. We can still perform better than we have...

On a tangent...

I just saw William Friedkin's new movie Bug. (Friedkin directed The Exorcist). I found Bug to be an exceptional film, but few will relate to it. The pace is slow and challenging (which I appreciate), so if you like instant gratification/blockbuster type movies, I wouldn't bother with this one. Anyway, I guess the film is about paranoia... EXTREME paranoia. What is interesting is that there are mentions of the Kennedy assassination, Bilderberg, "black helicopters", microchip/nanotech implants, Groom Lake, Nazi-like experiments... Lots of tidbits for truthers.

Still, even for most truthers the film might be hard to relate to, or at least to really "get it". Now, if you've ever EXPERIENCED extreme paranoia yourself (As in: "How do I know you're not one of THEM?", "The TV is talking specifically to ME", "there are bugs under my skin", "this whole reality and everyone in it are all part of a conspiracy to trap ME"...), or severe drug psychosis, you will definitely "get" this movie. And if you've ever "been there" yourself, this movie will "get under your skin".

I can't tell whether the movie was meant to get these ideas into the public consciousness to "wake" people to what's going on, or to tease and ridicule "conspiracy theorists", or to scare us with ideas of what "THEY" might be capable of...

I highly recommend this movie if you consider yourself a "conspiracy theorist", and have the patience to watch a director methodically build tension and patiently showcase some stunning yet subtle acting talent. If you've maybe gone overboard with the hallucinogens on an occasion or two, this should be right up your alley. It will definitely make you think.
"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

"I can't tell whether the

"I can't tell whether the movie was meant to get these ideas into the public consciousness to "wake" people to what's going on, or to tease and ridicule "conspiracy theorists", or to scare us with ideas of what "THEY" might be capable of..."

That's the $50,000 statement right there, and I've wondered it myself about many tv programs and movies. Sometimes I think the history channel is talking not ME, but "us". Those who are "onto" them. If they are mad enough to kill innocent people, then why the hell not? It's not like they don't control the content of historical "fact" on televsion. Why shouldn't they be capable of literally anything (within physical possibility)?

As for the interview, I thought it had it's strengths and weaknesses, but the strengths prevailed. It sure as hell was better than Tarpley's recent disaster on fox!

I've though the same; in fact,

History Channel is owned by Disney/ABC. There does seem to be an agenda. The perps must think we're really stupid.

so you think a smart person

so you think a smart person is going to find out there was only 47 columns instead of 57 and change his mind completely about it being an inside job?
How about getting the lone gunman name wrong? Wow, that's a huge error there.
The armchair quarterbacks come out at night.
If you don't like what Zwicker is doing, by all means, go on the same TV show and be 200% better...please! Critiquing someone after the fact is not going to get us anywhere.

If you get one fact wrong,

If you get one fact wrong, then the brain-washed public will wonder what other assertions you may have erred on. I've seen Barrie comment on how there was very minimal damage to WTC 7 when in fact there was this huge gash along one side. That's plain irresponsible. They, at the forefront, and someone who claims to be experienced in the medium, must know that the facts they issue must be beyond reproach. All they should do is stick to the facts, what is known and steer clear of speculation. If they do that, then the case will spell things out for itself. I only bring this up because I have this liberal-educated Chomski-ite friend who finds the whole "conspiracy theory" baseless because of the mis-representation and sensationalizing of some facts surrounding 911 truth and its revelations. There are many out there just like him. They are the anti-war left and self-acclaimed "critical thinkers" who seldom look at what is appearing to occur but rather why on earth would it. They are the so-called gatekeepers to which I believe is not so much gate-keeping but rather just plain intellectual snobbery. Zwicker needs to sharpen his mind and delivery to get the message through to this segment of society because if they go and fact check a mis-characterization and find its error, they will then seriously change the channel.

"Critiquing someone after

"Critiquing someone after the fact is not going to get us anywhere."

That's one of the dumbest statements I've heard on blogger since Judy Wood's plasmoids comment.

simuvac:Do you lack basic judgement?

Barrie Zwicker is perhaps the most prominent spokesperson for the 911 truth movement. He has been at it since almost day 1. He is a media critic (expert). Do you really think that you have any lessons to learn Barrie when it comes to media?
This is a clip from a Winnipeg mainstream TV station with a very sympathetic host. The overall impression is extremely good. As you point out Barrie makes a few mistakes regarding some facts, ( it was 47 columns, but the point still stands).

Consider the novice viewer

The argument Zwicker makes here is basically this: Hollywood script writers were assembled by the White House to write a story for 9/11 that would be repeated by conspirators to complicit corporate media on the day; these conspirators included several scientists who were asked for comment by mainstream media. He then talks about a guy in a Harley Davidson t-shirt and makes vague allusions to Jerome Hauer.

To the average viewer, that is going to sound wacky. In particular, I don't know where he gets this Hollywood angle from. But the idea that these scientists were somehow part of a plot is ludicrous. These are just scientists who could not fathom -- especially on the day of 9/11 -- that the collapses had nothing to do with the airplanes. What scientist, who makes a living on government grants, is going to tell the NY Times on 9/11 that clearly the towers were toppled with explosives? C'mon. Not everything is part of some ubiquitous conspiracy.

I'm not focusing on his slips. I'm saying he's talking about a dissection of possible propaganda techniques, when the average viewer will find it difficult enough to understand how or why 9/11 was or could be an inside job.

As for the "57 columns" remark -- I would say someone who says he has dedicated his life to 9/11 Truth, and has written a book about it, should not make mistakes like that. How many lectures has he given on the subject? You don't see people excuse Donald Rumsfeld for being a war criminal, because he's old. But fine, Barrie's human, and that's no big deal.

Look, I have his book, and probably every other book that has been written about 9/11. If you want, I could write a 100-page treatise on the subject. For practical purposes, I'm picking just a few items from this TV clip and focusing on them. Overall, I would say anything that makes people more suspicious of globalist power is a good thing. But specifically, I would say 9/11 Truth advocates who land TV appearances have to be better, with a message that appeals to novice viewers.

Sure, Barrie's a media critic and he's good at it. But that doesn't make him infallible. You're just repeating the same reverence for the expertocracy that so many debunkers exhibit.

actually quite inspiring...

I thought what Zwicker had to say was pretty much spot on. I thought the manner in which he presented his info helped to personalise the collective beliefs of the movement for the uninitiated.

I'd never been inspired before by Barrie Zwicker, until that interview. "...I want to be able to tell the young people in the future that I did what I could [to stop the crazed M.I.C. and globalization plan]". I wouldn't be so worried about the couple of trivial errors he made in his interview. The info is getting out there. We owe him praise rather than major criticism.

Show "I agree with you that Barrie" by misterguy

Very good

This is great. I've never been able to figure out why anyone would believe the official story about what Card whispered to Bush in the classroom. He probably said something like: Everything is on track, stay seated.

Yes, and I was hoping Barrie would say

There's no way Card had time to say, "A second plane has hit the towers. America is under attack"! No way! Play the video. There's like 2-3 seconds at most. Try saying even the first sentence in that time!

Barrie did make a good point about the brevity of that communication. It makes no sense that with information as incredibly important as Card says he had that Bush would not ask for clarification, or at least say something to acknowledge that he heard and understood. I agree with Barrie on that one: that was scripted.

But no, I don't think Jerry Bruckheimer was called in to coordinate the media (what is Barrie talking about? Hollywood script writers?). The White House has shown itself plenty capable with coordinating the media.


I see your point but after nearly 6 years (not like it wasn't going on before) of Fox, CNN, GE brainwashing this is pretty good. He made a few mistakes but overall did well.

The truth will come out

The truth will come out through the scientific fact, not the fact that there was an episode of the long gunmen that followed the same storyline-

People should structure their arguments although they were presenting it in a courtroom, that and the expression on Bush's face are neither here or there and do not prove anything,

The science on the other hand is undisputable and eaisly proven correct or not- take Steve Jones chemical analysis for example, that is much more compelling than the expression on Bushes face.

It has got to the point not where I cringe whenever someone tries to make an argument based on these points- they are no longer needed, there is much stronger edivence.

Richard Gage would have been on

Richard Gage was scheduled for tv too, but his flight was canceled and he missed the appearance. There were 3 separate events, one for physics and media cover-up, one for physics and one for media cover-up. Barrie was being interviewed for his book Towers of Deception - The Media Cover-up Of 9/11 and to promote that evening's event on the media cover-up.

Y'all need to relax, get off the computer and get events happening the way you want in your city.



Agreed that peeps need to get off thier computer and get out and talk to people, and DO ACTION. We need to realize that the people who orcastrated this WILL do something again. If a bully beats you up and takes your lunch money (freedoms in this case) and no-one catches him HE WILL do it again. Each mind we wake up (or even just expose) makes that possibility less likely. So people get out, do things and wake some people up, I hope nothing else nefarious happens but it IS a possibility. I don't know if this is worth while, but a forcefull letter to media outlets explaining that IF another false flag happens (I hope not) they are as (or more so) responsible as those who planned it.

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." ----- Thomas Jefferson
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." ------- Thomas Jefferson
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ---- Edmond Burke

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." ---- Mark Twain


But there is a role to be played by people on computers. How many of us would understand 9/11 without such people?

Not everyone is made to be an activist, and not everyone is made to be a researcher.

COOP?! This is Gordon cole!

How are they treating you up there in the pines Coop? WHAT?! THE PINES!!! Look, Coop, there's no time to talk horse racing now! I've got an assignment for you!


I agree, Coop. They should be focusing on the stronger evidence and carefully structuring their statements.
"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Is that Guliani?

Is that Guliani?

A little more prepared...

A little more prepared would be great, but overall the presentation is bound to bring more people to 9/11 Truth and seemed very fairly presented. Great work.

Barrie kicks ass.

His overall message by far outweighs any honest factual errors he makes.

Zwicker's critics should roll down to the nearest TV station when they are 77 years old, and see how they do in a screen test.

Zwicker is bloody excellent

He's been there from day one, has great analytical skills, and the heart of a lion. Few people exude intellectual honesty like this guy.

This is really a beautiful interview, unclouded by fake agendas or egos. This is extremely effective stuff from a media expert who presents as open and giving.

Finally a real person who people can relate to, allowed to deliver the goods unimpeded.

Zwicker is one of the top assets of this movement.


And, Barrie Zwicker shows he is passionate and articulate. The factual errors were not the kind of thing that will haunt him -- that's a swift-boat-style characterization of how we truthers need to be 100% correct on every detail, otherwise we're 100% discredited, while the politicians lie thru their teeth and we merely slap them on the wrists and continue voting for them?

I think this is my favorite interview with Zwicker, and I've seen quite a few. And, the moderator was obviously not a skeptic so if anything, I would think newbies would be inspired to find out more.

finally some people who give

finally some people who give him some credit!
Look, criticism is always good but right now we're in a long as they aren't talking about space beams and no planes, I trust them to get the information out. Missing the wrong amount of core columns by 10 and getting the name of a tv show is hardly anything to be critical of.

747 instead of 767 a difference of around 300,000 pounds fueled!

I like him a lot and he has been around for ever, respect.

But this time he was in a relaxed enviroment representing some very scientific arguments!

The fact he is a journalist probably gets him of the hook, but I want him to know we want his best carefull, balanced and prepared views. He represents all of us.

Kind regards John

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Dont get me wrong- the guy

Dont get me wrong- the guy did a really good job overall, but ( being a former sceptic myself) I would listen to what he said and not be convinced-

But then again the angle he was coming from was that of the media's roll in the cover up.

But on a whole people are dumb- you need to hit them with the most astonishing 100% undeniable scientific facts, then they cannot even argue-

I mean there are no two ways to the point of thermate being found in the twin towers wreckage- what can a sceptic say to that? or to the molten metal found at the bottom of the towers?

Well contact the tv network

Well contact the tv network and make an appearance and do exactly what you think he should of done! Please! We need you out there not in here critiquing!

9-11 Winnipeg

Was at two of 3 events.
They rocked. Had never even met a Truther before !
(My mom etc. doesn't believe me. So far, she won't watch a vid.)
To see 247 out of 250 in a crowd raise their hands to say 'We believe 9-11 was an inside job'
after seeing the evidence for two hours - was...cleansing.

All the media people in Winnipeg dealing with it - supported the Truthers ! How cool is that ?
There were many ! ( No one on the net caught Flava FM- the guy who didn't want the 9-11 guys to leave !!)
And in the crowd - Gerald Flood, editor of the Winnipeg 'Free' Press, was ridiculed and laughed at.! LOL !
"Not interested in 'conspiracy theory"- as J.W.Dafoe screams in his grave...
Canada has many problems as well. However -
I hate to be ethnocentric,but I actually think the 'Winnipeg 911 Conference' 2007' was a milestone for this movement.
All the events were packed.
All the media,who dared mention it, - were supportive.
Lesley Hughes, formerly of CBC radio, perhaps Winnipeg's most respected media personality,
just back from a Noam Chomsky interview, was there - on stage at the Gas Station - lending her support.
( hummmm...of course Zwicker's 'gatekeeper of the left' designation of Chomsky will eventually be dealt with)

Kudos to the organizers - Hawkins etc.
Winnipeg, a place, just north of nowhere -
Deal with it.
Grow with it.
Match it
or better it ,in your own town.

A proud Winnipegger.

Outstanding success

I could barely believe how successful this was. I felt bad having to turn people away at the last event because the room was so full we would be breaking the fire codes. It's great that the media promoted it and gave these interviews...on the other hand, No media actually showed up to cover the events themselves! Absolutely nothing in the paper the next day, they cant say they didn't know about it. Good thing we dont need them anymore. We Are Winning in Winnipeg!

High on truth again, you guys absolutely rock!

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Thank you Barrie Zwicker.

Thank you Barrie Zwicker. Amazing. Simply amazing to see this kind of discussion on television. We are going to win.

Vid from The Onion

That's extremely funny.

I laughed out loud more than once.

No Screaming

Was nice to see an interview where the person conducting the interview wasn't shouting or calling the guest a nut or a tin-foil hat wearer.

Excellent video.

Barrie brings out some excellent points. Yes, I agree, the whole thing was scripted. Straight out of Hollywood. It was a mind game and unfortunately I fell for it hook, line and sinker for about three years. When I finally came to my senses I held my head in shame for being so gullible as to believe it. The Official Story is so ridiculous even comic book writers would have trouble selling it. Once you "wake-up" it is difficult to imagine why everyone can't see through it.

my $.02

I saw the interview. I understand that he made a few errors (of omission as well as commission) . . . but I want to say what a pleasure it was to see someone talking sensibly about this issue. He came across as a normal person, a grandfather who simply wants his granddaughter to know that he did the best he could to fight this horrible evil and reveal the truth. I think that he will invite more people to take a second look at the issue. Certainly his mention of a false-flag attack used to justify invading Iran is important. And perhaps he will get people to question the MSM, if only just a little.

This was something new! Your right he did come of looking..

a normal Grandad who is fighting our futures enemy, well said!

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