Big Lies make little lies like stolen elections so much easier to sell. This new report by fellow truthseeker Michael Collins lays out the 2004 stolen election in black & white for the layman. Please check it out and pass it around:
Read project day lily, learn how a group of criminals spread the mycoplasma bacteria, Dr. nicolson, A respected scientist had contacts within the pentagon that revealed how this weapon was tested on the american people. This is the cause of every chronic illness, CFS, AIDS etc. Animals injected with this die, when injected with hiv nothing happens. http://www.projectdaylily.com/ Read the first chapter for free, it will scare the hell out of you!
See the film hiv fact or fraud too see how corrupt the aids establishment has gotten
AIDS isn't caused by HIV, which is a harmless retrovirus. See Peter Duesberg's book "Inventing the AIDS virus" for a fascinating read on how multiple forces converged to magnify an unsupported hypothesis (HIV cases AIDS) into dogma. HIV is not even sexually transmitted. Here is a shorter read on the subject:
I thought it was all bunk before i saw that film hiv fact or fraud. All other viruses cause disease in animals, except hiv. Hiv is only present in one of every 1000 t cells. Mycoplasma incognitus kills all animals infected. The army has a patent called "pathenogenic Mycoplasma" When Dr. Nicolson found this microbe in the gulf war veterans, chronic fatigue syndrome/ AIDS armed personall from the defense dept. visited him and threatened him to stop his research. His boss was shot 5 times in the head when they were going to blow the whistle on illegal testing at the md cancer center in texas.
Its not a coincidence that the army's leading scientist dr. shyh ching lo has published much on how this novel strain of mycoplasma is the cause of most diseases. Every animal he injected it with died, and he found it in sick patients with aids/cfs and not in healthy controls. That book project day lily is based on confidential sources and is true, if you read it its very scary, its like the movie 12 monkeys. www.projectdaylily.com
been a long time lurker here, its the site I always check first in the morning. But, I signed on specifically to respond to this because I believe this thread is dangerous to the 9/11 Truth community. Not everything is a conspiracy, HIV does cause AIDS, and associating this nonsense with 9/11 Truth, I believe, can only cause damage. Having this kind of discussion in any way linked to 9/11 Truth simply makes it easier for people to use the "tin foil hat" "argument".
I am a molecular biologist, I know a thing or two about viruses, including HIV, and this thread already contains numerous lies/ errors/ myths. HIV does cause AIDS, the evidence is overwhelming. I strongly believe that there should always be a contrary opinion on any scientific issue, Peter Deusberg offers this within the HIV community, but he is not correct. If he believes it is a "harmless retrovirus" then why hasn't he offered to be injected with it himself?
Contrary to what has been posted above, not every virus that causes illness in humans will cause the same disease in other animals, and vice versa, most viruses have very stringent host specificities.
Furthermore, it has been shown that if you bypass the barrier for infection and replication of HIV in mouse cells (by introducing the virus DNA artificially by transgenics), the virus does produce an AIDS-like disease in mice.
I have pasted the abstract and reference citation for this paper below if you are interested. But this is just one tiny study amongst an enormous volume of evidence that HIV does cause human immunodeficiancy syndrome.
There is a LOT of disinformation about there about HIV/AIDS on the internet. I find it troublesome that the popularity of the MYTH that HIV is a "harmless retrovirus" on the internet is expanding in parallel with 9/11 Truth. I've wondered whether this is part of a disinfo campaign.
Very important, search for your information regarding HIV/AIDS (or any disease, including that mycoplasma thing, which is not a bacteria by the way) from peer reviewed sources, NOT videos, web sites, newspaper articles. There are plenty of journals in Virology that would climb over each other to publish evidence that HIV was merely a "harmless retrovirus".
Use PUB MED to search for life science-related information, not Google. If you are interested in reading a particular article you find on a Pub Med search, but can't access it (most Medical Journals are not open Access YET), please email me (can that be done on this site? I'm not sure, I just registered), I will be happy to try and get it for you.
Nef harbors a major determinant of pathogenicity for an AIDS-like disease induced by HIV-1 in transgenic mice.
Hanna Z, Kay DG, Rebai N, Guimond A, Jothy S, Jolicoeur P.
Clinical Research Institute of Montreal, Department of Medicine, Université de Montréal, Quebec, Canada.
Transgenic (Tg) mice expressing the complete coding sequences of HIV-1 in CD4+ T cells and in cells of the macrophage/dendritic lineages develop severe AIDS-like pathologies: failure to thrive/weight loss, diarrhea, wasting, premature death, thymus atrophy, loss of CD4+ T cells, interstitial pneumonitis, and tubulo-interstitial nephritis. The generation of Tg mice expressing selected HIV-1 gene(s) revealed that nef harbors a major disease determinant. The latency and progression (fast/slow) of the disease were strongly correlated with the levels of Tg expression. Nef-expressing Tg thymocytes were activated and alpha-CD3 hyperresponsive with respect to tyrosine phosphorylation of several substrates, including LAT and MAPK. The similarity of this mouse model to human AIDS, particularly pediatric AIDS, suggests that Nef may play a critical role in human AIDS, independently of its role in virus replication.
1) The pathogenesis of HIV -- whether and how it leads to AIDS -- has never been demonstrated empirically; most troubling is that the data violate all three of Koch's postulates... [taken from pps. 174-186]
2) Postulate #1:The microbe must be found in all cases of the disease. The problem is no study has ever established the necessary presence of HIV in patients or in the diseased tissue in particular; moreover, there are thousands of people with AIDS-defining diseases who do not test positive for HIV. (The CDC invented a new label for such cases, idiopathic CD4 lymphocytopenia.)
3) Postulate #2: The microbe must be isolated from the host and grown in pure culture. HIV has never been purified from any one patient in the usual way; the virus has appeared in the lab only after taking millions of white blood cells from an HIV positive person and reactivating the virus by shocking the cells into awakening the dormant HIV. Even then, the reactivated HIV doesnt necessarily infect the remaining cells in the culture, so the virus is hard to maintain in lab cultures.
4) Postulate #3:The purified germ must cause the disease again in another host. Injecting blood from AIDS patients into closely related species, such as chimpanzees, has failed to induce AIDS, even after 10 plus years (since 1984). Accidental or natural HIV infection of humans (e.g., healthcare workers, blood transfusion recipients) has also failed to yield a later AIDS diagnosis, in the absence of AIDS "treatment" in the form of prescription medication. Finally, where is the vaccine for HIV that would prevent AIDS? Vaccines work by tricking the body into producing antibodies to the virus to prevent reinfection. HIV positive individuals already have antibodies to the virus, so of course, logically, that dormant virus cannot lead to later disease, making a vaccine moot.
5) There is no precedent for a "slow virus" that invades (causing few if any symptoms upon initial infection), lies dormant for long periods of time to later cause serious illness in the absence of reactivation of the virus.
6) There are so-called long-term survivors who are HIV positive but never develop AIDS (and they don't do recreational drugs or take the prescribed treatment).
7) The HIV test checks for the presence of antibodies, which at best (because of the issue of cross-reactions) indicate that the person has been previously exposed to the virus. It says nothing about current infection. Moreover, a strong antibody response normally means immunity to the virus.
8) HIV tests are notoriously unreliable, and people can get falsely positive outcomes for lots of reasons (e.g., being pregnant, having the flu or a flu shot).
9) Not all viruses cause disease, and some, like HIV, are harmless passenger viruses that show up in epidemiological studies as correlated with AIDS.
10) Accordingly, longitudinal studies have documented lowered white-blood cell counts precede HIV infection, which seems to preclude a causal role for HIV in suppressing immune functioning.
11) No study has established the sexual transmissibility of HIV; statistically, it takes, on average, more than 1,000 instances of sexual intercourse with an HIV positive person to contract HIV (or 250,000 instances of intercourse with people whose HIV status is not known). (These statistics are drawn from Padian's 1997 study of female sexual partners of male HIV positive hemophiliacs; zero instances of transmission were found, despite a lot of unsafe sex. Furthermore, the direction of female-to-male transmission is estimated to be even greater--about 1 in 10,000.) Most STDs, like gonorrhea or syphilis, are transmitted at a rate of 1 in 2. Most STDs quickly spread to both genders, and are rampant among teenagers; neither is the case with HIV.
12) In the US and Europe, AIDS cases are overwhelmingly concentrated in a few high-risk groups (gay men with a history of heavy drug use, intravenous drug users, chronic users of drugs that were not injected, babies of hard-core drug using women, and hemophiliacs who have taken unpurified blood clotting factor and/or who have taken AZT); if AIDS were infectious, then it would be distributed more evenly without regard to demographic factors.
13) AIDS diseases tend to be specific to various high-risk groups. For example, gay men (who tend to use nitrate inhalants) overwhelmingly developed pulmonary Kaposi's sarcoma; cocaine users tend to get pneumonia; heroin users tend to get tuberculosis; hemophiliacs taking unpurified blood clotting factor tend to get pneumonia; "AIDS" diseases in Africa tend to be the same diseases that are common to the region (TB, malaria, 'Slim'disease, a synonym for 'wasting' which is apparently taken to be synonymous with AIDS by the locals), etc.;
14) In Africa, "AIDS" is distributed fairly evenly between the sexes (often slightly more prevalent among women), but is defined differently than in the US or Europe. In Africa, where HIV tests are generally too expensive to use, one can be considered to have "AIDS" (by World Health Organization standards) if three of the following symptoms are observed: weight loss of greater than 10% in the last two months, fever, diarrhea, persistent cough, itchy rash. These symptoms also correspond to local diseases -- such as tuberculosis and malaria -- that are a common result of poor nutrition, poor sanitation, and unsafe drinking water. At any rate, people are not dying in Africa in greater numbers than they ever have and the populations of most African countries are still increasing at a rapid rate. Claiming AIDS makes relief money flow. Unfortunately, money that should be spent to create safe water sources, improve sanitation, and support local food production are instead being spent on "help" in the form of useless condoms, abstinence-education programs, or distribution of anti-retrovirals and infant formula.
15) The thirty or so diseases combined under the AIDS umbrella in most wealthy countries are so vastly different that only the presence of HIV unites them. They don't even all involve the immune system (e.g., Kaposi's sarcoma, lymphoma, and cervical cancer) despite the name AIDS -- which stands for acquired immune deficiency syndrome. Even worse, the same disease gets classified one way if the person is HIV negative (e.g., tuberculosis) and another way if the person is HIV positive (e.g., AIDS). As another example, if a person has Kaposi's sarcoma but is not HIV positive, then they are simply categorized as having cancer. This practice artificially conflates AIDS with HIV, making the correlation appear much stronger than it is.
16) The Centers for Disease Control has changed the definition of AIDS several times, always including more diseases in the AIDS umbrella. Each time a disease is added, more people are included as having "AIDS" or, if they died, are added to the AIDS mortality rate. Some diseases, like cervical cancer, appear to have been added merely to increase the number of women with AIDS, and had the impact of doctoring the statistics to make AIDS appear infectious -- as if it is spreading to females. In 1993, the definition was even included to add one non-disease condition abnormal CD4 cell counts without an AIDS defining illness; the majority of new AIDS diagnoses are in this category of people who may be perfectly healthy at the time of diagnosis. This addition served to instantly double the number of "AIDS" cases.
17) HIV is a retrovirus that depends on the cells it invades to stay alive; it is illogical to suppose that retroviruses kill cells; retroviruses, according to Duesberg, are normally transmitted harmlessly from mother to child, too;
18) HIV is an old virus, yet the proportion of people in the population who are HIV positive (about 1 million in the US population, 36 million worldwide) has not deviated since first tested in 1984;
19) The hypothesis that HIV leads to AIDS is incompatible with the fact that the prevalence of HIV-infected people has stayed constant while the incidence of AIDS cases rapidly spiked and then fell (in the 1990's). If HIV causes AIDS, then the number of HIV infections should have similarly peaked at some point prior to the peak in AIDS cases.
20) The spike in AIDS deaths corresponds to AZT prescription. AZT is a DNA-chain terminator developed and abandoned as too deadly for even short-term treatment of cancer. Like all chemotherapy, AZT kills cells. (Let's examine the logic -- HIV is supposed to kill cells, so let's treat it by administering a drug that kills cells. WTF?) People who take AZT tend to get AIDS; when people stop taking the prescription, they tend to spontaneously go into remission. Other AIDS drugs work similarly, and are now being given to pregnant women and newborn infants to "fight" a harmless disease that hurts no one. But the so-called cure is toxic.
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Over a half a million people have died already of AIDS -- which appears to be a collection of illnesses brought about by some combination of recreational drugs, poor nutrition, and/or medically prescribed drugs to treat the very disease, immune suppression, the drugs themselves induce. Of the two hypotheses about AIDS, the toxicity hypothesis accounts for a greater amount of disparate data than the HIV hypothesis does. The HIV hypothesis does not even come close.
The weird part of this story is how the announcement of a premature, untested hypothesis (made jointly by NIH scientist Robert Gallo and Heath & Human Services Secretary Margaret Heckler at a press conference in 1984) snowballed into the current multi-billion-dollar-a-year AIDS industry. Duesberg's chapters on the politics of science, the CDC, NIH, & FDA, are fascinating. The story of the CDC's origins and their "intelligence officers" was truly scary. Most of all, the stories of scientists turning their backs on disinterested scholarship read like something out of the old Soviet-bloc countries. There was an astonishing closing of ranks, with AIDS dissidents expelled from the scientific community as social deviates, "deniers" (as in Holocaust deniers). AIDS dissidents were (and still are) denied grants to study alternative hypotheses, they were denied publication in journals, and were even denied the opportunity to debate in public. (Were it not for tenure, I'm sure they would have all lost their jobs.) This is not how science is supposed to work. And when the mainstream media bothers to cover the issue at all, the controversy is treated with ad hominem arguments at best. Reminds me of how people who merely question the official account of 9/11 are treated -- ostracized but not properly confronted and debated.
Silence indeed equals death; silence about the true causes of AIDS, silence about the purported cure shoved down our throats, shoved down the throats of our loved ones. The tide is turning. When the dust clears, when the lawsuits are done, the CDC, NIH, and the FDA will have to be dismantled. If there is a just world, then these people, the pharmaceutical industry, and the greedy, craven scientists who propagated all these lies all this time will be tried for crimes against humanity.
Duesberg is a hero and should be treated as such; I'm sure he'd be the last to want that though, as he seems rather modest, an "accidental" hero if ever there was one.
Other items to check out, by another hero:
Farber, C. (April, 2006). Out of Control: AIDS and the corruption of medical science. Harpers Magazine. (available online at harpers.org)
Farber, C. (2006). Serious adverse events: An uncensored history of AIDS. Melville House.
I suspect it may be wise for us to stick to 9-11 matters. I realize that you find evidently strong parallels. But one battle is probably all we can fight here. It would take years for us to learn enough to evaluate this HIV issue.
guys, this is an open thread, keep that in mind. im agnositc on this HIV issue but dont see the big deal with discussing it here, especially considering its an open thread.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
You know, I could go through every one of your points and explain why they are naive or misguided, but I won't. I won't debate this here. As I stated previously, I think it is dangerous to link this kind of a debate in any way to 9/11 truth. I think 9/11 truth is too important an issue to become associated in any way with wacky ideas about an "AIDS conspiracy". Bring out the tin foil hats people, what a bunch of nut jobs.
Is that your intention behind this thread?
And, by the way, if you do want to debate this (somewhere else), its pointless unless you stick to peer reviewed sources. I pointed out only one of thousands of papers showing that HIV does cause disease in mice if you bypass the infection and replication barriers, and the response was to cite a bunch of retoric from Duesbergs book. Learn some immunology and molecular biology then you won't make a stupid statement about HIV only infecting 1 in 1000 T cells (just happen to be Th, which have the right receptors but thats beside the point).
Also look at both sides of the issue and not just one book and a bunch of web sites. I would recommend Jay Levy's "HIV and the Pathogenesis of AIDS". Link below, American Society for Microbiology Press, you won't find this one at Starbucks next to the National Inquirer. You should also take an immunology course, do those things then get back to me so nobody will be wasting their time.
Yo the article i mentioned summarized the research from DR. shyh ching lo MD PHD who is a brilliant scientist that heads he most sophisticated lab in the history of the world, the armed forces institute of pathology, if we go to war and our enemy uses biological weapons, this is the lab that will have to figure out what they used. Hes gotten his work published in peer reviewed journals that I linked before. He is one of the few scientists that actually examined the dead bodies of AIDS victims, and was puzzled when he could barely found any hiv, and he read the scientific literature and learned how HIv in the failed Kochs postulates. The mycoplasma he found in aids patients and other sick patients folfiled kochs postulates, he had an animal model, the animals injected with this microbe wasted and died. Is he and the nobel prize winners like Dr.walter gilbert and kary mullis who question the hiv hypothesis not worth your precious time?
As far as your mouse study, mice who are not frankensteined in a labratory are not even suceptible to hiv and the one of the 150 chimps infected never get aids. NOwhere in kochs postulates does it say you can gentically engineer animals to save a failing hypothesis.
Dr. garth Nicolson And dr. Lo have published in peer reviewed journals that I have linked before. Neverthless the peer review process is totally rigged, Would a well known engineering publication ever publish the work of Dr. Jones? of course not, even though his arguments are sound. Like I said the peer review process has not prevented children that are injected with 100 times the epa safe level of mercury or the 100,000 people that died of vioxx.
Its not up to you to tell others that they dont have the right to hear another side of an argument, infact if your argument is so sound you wouldnt be so afraid of others hearing another side of the story. People have the right to hear both sides of an argument, a good prosecutor or defense attorney would not care if a jury was exposed to the other side of an argument if their case were sound, a bad prosecutor with a bad case would do everything to prevent a jury from hearing another side of the argument.
Do you understand what Opportunistic Infection means?
If you didn't need an immune system, nobody would ever die of HIV infection. People who are infected with HIV and are left untreated die from all kinds of infections and cancers that people with healthy immune systems don't get. This Dr. Lo you are referring to is not saying that HIV does not cause AIDS, he is saying that the mycoplasma causes some AIDS infected people to die.
Try to understand the whole story before you start posting lies and disinfo.
"There is no good explanation for why and how the virus breaks out of the antibody protection," says Lo. "I'm not saying that HIV plays no role in AIDS -- the data shows a clear correlation with disease. But AIDS is much more complicated than HIV."
"In the spirit of "the openness" of science we salute Peter Duesberg for his challenging and courageous voice speaking out against the present scientific establishment. His extensive experience and knowledge about retroviruses lends merit to his critical evaluation of the possible causative role of HIV in the AIDS disease.
We believe the most healthy and responsible scientific attitude in dealing with AIDS research is to explore all possible avenues. To make any conclusion lightly or prematurely, such as ruling out any possible role of microbes in AIDS, or to commit oneself exclusively to a particular agent and completely rule out any other possible role of a different microbe, may all result in a greater loss of AIDS victims."
Shyh-Ching Lo
Chief, Division of Geographic Pathology
Col. Douglas J. Wear, MC USA
Chairman
Department of Infectious and Parasitic Disease Pathology
Department of Defense
Armed Forces Institute of pathology
Washington, DC
Dr. shyh ching Lo
"There are too many shortcomings in the theory that HIV causes all signs of AIDS," says Dr. Luc Montagnier. He disovered hiv, , he agrees with the mycoplasma hypothesis, is he a fool too?
Lo laid all his cards on the table. He had detected an organism similar to a bacteria, called a mycoplasma, in cells taken from AIDS patients. He could not find the organism in cells of healthy individuals. When he injected the organism into four silvered leaf monkeys, three quickly developed low-grade fevers. All four lost weight. All four died within seven to nine months of infection. When they were autopsied, there was Lo's mycoplasma in their brains, livers and spleens.
Lo also reported finding the mycoplasma in the damaged tissue of six HIV-negative human beings who had died from unspecified causes after suffering from suspiciously AIDS-like symptoms. (bozo why did these hiv negative people die then if its just an oppurtunistic infection)
I can't comment that much on the science or the statistics, but I do have some ideas about this...
If 9/11 has taught me anything, it is that "coincidences" are often by design. Like the date... "Emergency 9-11"... The Towers look like an "11" There just HAPPENS TO BE oil under the lands of our alleged attackers...
OR "coincidences" are often really EVIDENCE that seemingly unrelated data are actually deeply connected.
I have also learned that our governments have been manufacturing "reality" for a very long time. Clearly, no lie is too big, no conspiracy too elaborate.
I no longer have any faith in the scientific establishment at large. We know the stupefying effects of paradigmatic thinking. Look how long it has taken scientists to "wake up" to the OBVIOUS controlled demolition of the Twin Towers. And it is only a small percentage who have taken that leap. Most remain in willful, petulant denial. We know that paradigmatic thinking has been a huge stumbling block for science throughout the ages. Geocentricity Vs. heliocentricity, flat earth Vs. round earth, "evil spirits" Vs. microbes... Like it or not, even scientists are subject to the same human psychology as the rest of us. They can be duped too. Finally, science has in the past moved forward with HIGHLY immoral and dangerous technologies, and is doing so at an exponentially growing rate. (Nukes, nanotech, bioengineering, AI, surveilance... Things like these shouldn't just be put out there into the world without public discussion of the possible consequences.) It is easily conceivable that a small group of immoral scientists created a fraudulent story around the HIV/AIDS virus, then stomped out dissenting voices with the help of the government and the media propaganda machine. Once the myth is prevalent and dominant it becomes "reality", and the evidence / facts / data will be unconsciously "cherry-picked" by all but the most independent of thinkers to ensure that the conclusions will comport with the accepted "worldview".
Now, "coincidences" pertaining to HIV...
-Didn't the advent of AIDS coincide nicely with the "War on Drugs"?
-Could anyone have had a vested interest in further demonizing homosexuals?
-How can we untie the knot of correlation / causation when it comes to the relationship between AIDS and "risk behaviors / factors" like drug use or malnutrition?
I think in addition to the highly specialized study of each individual scientific discipline, we must look at the "bigger picture" in order to determine where reality lies (pun intended?). Human psychology affects the outcomes of science. Politics affect the outcomes of science. Economic issues (the bottom line) affect the outcomes of science.
What it amounts to for the general public is the "hidden knowledge" of the "elite". Not all of us can be molecular biologists, or physicists, or economic theorists. Therefore the public is vulnerable to obfuscation of the facts. Actually, even elite scientists are vulnerable to this. If one scientist somewhere in the world hits upon a discovery that shakes up the status quo, you can bet that powerful political and economic forces will work to insulate others from that info.
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I'm usually on board with what you have to say too. There are definitely some good people and good ideas in the mix here. :)
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I was sick for many years without a diagnosis. The medical establishment failed me. I suddenly became ill with flu like symptoms with memory loss and it slowly got worse. I was given garbage can diagnosis like "Chronic fatigue syndrome". I came across DR. garth nicolson and Dr. nancy nicolson and DR' shyh ching lo's research and am now in remission w antibiotics. ALl of their research was published in peer reviewed journals. Not that the peer review process is so great, i mean where living in a country that pumps kids with 100 times the daily level of mercury, and the peer reveiwers are silent! Did the peer review process save the 100,000 people that died from vioxx?
Anyways mycoplasma incognitus is a real threat. Dr. shyh ching lo published in a peer reveiwed journal and folfilled kochs postulates. HE found a new strain of mycoplasma taht was only found in sick patients, he did not find it healthy controls, he isolated it and grew it in pure culture, he inoculated in monkeys and mice and they sickened and died. Here is an article with peer reviwed refrences.
Dr. garth nicolson found out this microbe many sick people with gulf war ilness etc. and had confidential sources in the pentagon that disclosed to him this weapon was a part of the biological weapons program. If you read project day lily www.projectdaylily.com you might learn something.
As far as hiv 150 chimps were inoculated and didnt get sick. There is no control animal in that study you mentioned, infact other than your one anecdotal case, all mice and primates injected with hiv dont get sick/aids. Hiv only infects one of every 1000 t cells, and the whole hypothesis was advanced by a horrible scientist named gallo who bypassed debate by announcing his theory public with litlle evidence. Here are some of the scientists who question how a infectiion that is barely detectable w no animal model can cause organ failure, dementia etc
DR. shyh ching lo md phd from the armed forces institute of pathology
Dr peter duesberg, retroviral expert ucb
Dr. richard stroman phd ucb
Dr. harry rubin. phd ucb
Dr. walter gilbert nobel prize winner harvard professor
Dr kary mullis nobel prize winner
Dr. charles thomas former harvard professor
this is a small list of a growing number of scientists that want to reopen the debate.
An open debate is essential to finding the truth, when you hear one side of the story you could easliy be fooled. Make up your own mind. People have a right to informed consent.
Hi Billybipbip,
I'm sorry you were sick, but glad you figured it out and are on the mend. It's astonishing what you are saying...but totally believable.
Nearly 2500 scientists are rethinking the HIV-AIDS hypothesis. Read their names here:
I cant beleive we are living in a society where evryone is scared of hiv, a microbe that's probably harmless, and the real microbe to worry about, mycoplasma, no one has heard of! I cant imagine the suffering of millions of people with "chronic fatigue syndrome" etc who are just rotting away with this, but thats the way black ops work. they totally fool the population
Dr. garth nicolsons book is a real eye opener. He actually had such inside info with confidential whistleblowers that you actually hear how their plan was to test this on americans/ veterans. he names names(theyve been slightly changed, but you can tell who hes talking about) Several attempts have been made on Nicolsons life, we need to get behind his book and spread it to as many people as we can. If we think 9/11 was the only black op, were fooling ourselves. www.projectdaylily.com
Hi Billybipbip,
How do you think you contracted this illness? Where you in the Gulf War?
I have a child on the autism spectrum as a result of the 25 micrograms of mercury in flu shots. I am still mad as hell at our gov't. Can't sue vaccine companies either - thanks to a rider in the Homeland Security bill. Funny, but researching the vaccine scam lead me down the path to understanding 9/11 truth, the truth about aids, and basically start to find out how the world really works.
no i think i caught it from a breif exposure. Have you seen this video about mercury in vaccines, this doctor lays out a good case and also talks about how chelation has caused a dramatic improvement in autism. We should put all this info about mercury, mycoplasma, and the aids debate on the front page one day, this is a major weapon used by the new world order, and needs more exposure
I watched the video 2 days ago. It sure raised questions in my mind. So I've been searching the net for more information. There's quite a lot out there. This is a debate that has gone on from day 1, without me and the rest of the public being aware of it.
As if we didn't have enough with 911 already? But it sure seems that we have another hoax on our hands. After reading many papers and seeing many videos, it is the natural conclusion to draw.
If this is correct, which it certainly seems to be. It is the biggest scientific scandal in the 20:th century.
all these things, the mercury in vaccines, mycoplasma www.projectdaylily.com, and the hiv debate need more exposure. All these things along with 9/11 are pretty sad.
I'm convinced that my son developed mercury poisoning - the symptoms are identical to autism. He only had the flu shot (twice, once in utero, much more damaging), but it has a lot of mercury in it. We've chelated him and seen great improvements; also he's had behavorial and speech and occupational and physical therapy. He's almost on track now, I'd say. No more vaccines - I don't trust the drug companies any more. I have read the research; it is another case of cover-up. As mentioned, it's what got me started down the truth trail.
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It's extremely scary. I can't tell you how many friends i have who are infertile (male and female). It IS an epidemic. (You young people don't know about it because you are so busy trying to _prevent_ pregnancy.)
And think about this vaccine being pushed just on ALL 13-year-old girls to prevent HPV (which is a treatable disease!). Only a fraction of HPV cases lead to cervical cancer, and it would take fucking YEARS of IGNORING positive pap smear tests to get cervical cancer.
I believe it's about manufacturing population control. As the film says, it's cheaper than guns. Dr. Ayoub has guts - I am so glad you flagged this video for me. I knew all the stuff about mercury and autism - it's all in David Kirby's book, "evidence of harm."
Anyway, the same could be said for the depleted uranium used in Iraq (and also in Lebanon last summer by the Israelis) -- it functions to depopulate the entire region. Birth defects, miscarriages, and infertility have all skyrocketed. And all the population control reports target third-world countries or groups of people who are not wanted by the powers that be. Rockefeller Foundation implicated big time in the mercury scam.
As naive as it sounds, I never dreamed it could be intentional. I believed in the "oops/cover-your-ass" theory. It's genocide.
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9/11 was an INSIDE JOB
Speaking of Webster Tarpley and truth squad confrontations, I had a chance to interview Webster for about an hour on Vancouver radio. Hope you like it, and please remember our conference June 22-24!
You got it that right. Great work here. Much love for you. I agree 100%, once this investigation begins, who in the media will be prosecuted for the cover-up? Colmes will not get off easy.
Good job!
That was really weak of Colmes, but not surprising. These types don't like when they don't have "creative control" and cannot just cut you off, unless they run away, of course.
Universities should be held accountable for the disinformation and propaganda they area spreading (and with the funding of federal agencies like the National Science Foundation).
Universities routinely violate their Code of Ethics by this kind of behavior and should have their feet held to the fire when it comes to truth in education.
Ernest May, Harvard Professor of History, Senior Adviser to the 9/11 Commission and recent co-author of a book with 9/11 Commish Executive Director Philip Zelikow is slated for the third year in a row next fall to teach 12 impressionable freshman the story of 9/11 the event and the Commission.
... So now it's the kinetic energy of fuel that destroyed the towers!!!... LOL :)
I ran my own simulation on my PDA and found out that it was the passport of Mohamed Atta that destroyed the towers!... The fact that it was found blocks away from the towers proves that it must have had tremendous amount of kinetic energy...
Yes, it appears that they are spreading disinformation/misinformation by blindly accepting the official NIST and FEMA reports. For example the Purdue simulation of the plane strike into the north tower uses data from the FEMA report while claiming it is "physically realistic". The FEMA and NIST report wildly exaggerate by speculating on the damage from the plane and completely ignore the claims of the building designers who specifically designed the buildings to survive aircraft crashes of the type seen on 9/11 (http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/05/world-trade-center-building-des...).
Also related to the topic of disinformation: my paper on disinformation has now been published in the letters section of the Journal of 9/11 Studies:
"FEMA and NIST report wildly exaggerate by speculating on the damage from the plane"
Yet they insist that, without fireproofing, an ordinary office fire would have brought the towers down even if not a single column had been damaged:
"The heat from an ordinary office fire would suffice to soften and weaken the unprotected steel. Evaluation of the effects of the fire on the core column structure, with the insulation removed by the impact, showed that collapse would follow whatever the number of columns cut at the time of the impact."
If an ordinary office fire can collapse a steel-framed highrise, fire insulation in all the other fire-affected highrises in the world must have been in good condition.
That must also have been the case with this still unfinished skyscraper which burned for hours in Qatar, with huge flames coming out of every floor:
Despite all the reported shortcomings in construction and quality control, it's a good thing that they at least had managed to take good care of fireproofing so that the building didn't collapse to dust and debris at the speed of 7-8 floors per second, as the Twin Towers and WTC 7 did on 9/11!
Did you include yourself and Jim Hoffman in your disinformation examples? If not, your so-called disinformation paper is fit for use as toilet peper but not much else.
in my paper where I mention that just calling something disinformation without explaining why is in itself disinformation. I don't pay much attention to the delinquents on this site who only resort to insulting people with childish rants.
Why am I accusing you and Jim Hoffman of engaging in disinfo? Let's see:
-You have consistently lied about and mishandled the eye-witness evidence surrounding the Pentagon attack to come up with a BS statistic stating "almost 100% say they saw AA77/757 hit the Pentagon"
-You appear to repeat all of Jim Hoffman's dishonest and misleadng arguments about the Pentagon attack.
-You refuse to address the many issues in any sort of honest way that I have raised to you regarding your numerous fallacies and falshoods in your discussion of the evidence at the Pentagon.
-Jim Hoffman, your mentor, has unfairly accused most of the 9/11 Research community and activists of being engaged in disinfo because the vast majority do not believe in the official myth that AA77 hit the Pentagon. Quote from Jim Hoffman, "[argueing for no AA77 at the Pentagon is] an idea that may be the single most elaborate and well-orchestrated hoax used to undermine the credibility of the 9-11 Truth Movement."
Do I have to describe yet again how Jim Hoffman tried to sabatoge David Ray Griffen's presentation in Oakland last year?
There is a reason that Jim Hoffman stands virtually alone among most 9/11 researchers in trying to prop up the official government lie that flight 77 hit the Pentagon. You have to ask yourself why he is at odds with most of the other researchers including Professor Jones, David Griffin, Kevin Barret, Webster Tarpey, Barrie Zwicker, Jim Marrs, Dylan Avery, Jasen Bermes and the folks at Louder than Words, SPINE (Scientific Panel Investigating Nine Eleven), and many others. Then, you have to ask yourself why people like Jim Hoffman attampt to turn reality on its head by claiming the opposite, i.e., that most of the "credible" researchers support the official story of the Pentagon attack, and only disinfo agents disagreee.
So, WHO's BEEN CALLING PEOPLE DISINFORMATION AGENTS WITHOUT A VALID REASON? Just have a look at your mentor.
i agree Keenan, see this thread and the 2 links i dropped in it to see Arabesque being less than honest(i am NOT trying to start a flame war but if you would just read his own words you can come to your own conclusions):
and say what you will about Hoffman's work but you are absolutely right, the guy has attacked just about everyone who has contributed to helping the cause of 9/11 truth.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
If anyone 9/11 truth friendly is in the NY area, please let me know. I have recently been told of a location where there might still be undisturbed and uncontaminated samples of WTC dust. If at all possible, I'd like to get some for analysis.
Custody issues are probably quite important. Do you know how to do it while preserving the custody history? Not that I do... I am hoping you know about it already, or can find out.
You will need to show quite clearly that there has been no contamination. I guess that is obvious, but I thought I'd say it anyway.
I'm more concerned with just getting a hold of what may be the last samples of WTC dust out there as most of New York (as I understand it) has been cleaned up of any artifacts from the twin towers' collapse. And considering the health damage inflicted by the dust so far, it may soon become completely nonexistent.
Perhaps appeal to the NY Fire Dept. or their union directly. Probably sympathetic. Some member may have hung up a uniform worn that day and not worn it since, or something like that.
Or you could ask the FBI, but then we might never hear from you again.
14 out of 19 US Presidential candidates support Israeli occupation
Press Esc
Wednesday June 13, 2007
14 out of the 19 US Presidential candidates have vowed to continue American support for Israel's occupation of Palestine territories, and five of them also go as far as to support the 'security wall' dividing Israel from the West Bank which has been ruled as illegal by the International Court of Justice, according to a policy brief released by the Council on Foreign Relations.
Democrats Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich and Bill Richardson are joined by Republican cadidate Ron Paul as the only candidates who oppose Israeli policies.
The position of Republican hopeful John H. Cox is unknown.
counts one Larry Silverstein as her biggest individual campaign contributor. Funny, huh? This is particularly interesting given the reportedly upcoming hit piece by the Nation linking 9/11 Truth to the political right wing...
yeah, i heard about that recently. nothing a Clinton does surprises me. they really envy the Bush families power. and as far as The Nation hit piece attempting to link 9/11 truth to the political right(care to share where you heard that?), that just sounds like fear and frustration on their part, as 9/11 truth has been linked to the political left much more than the right since the start. of course we know that 9/11 truth has people of just about all political persuasions. The Nation has been called out endlessly on its cowardice about 9/11 and it was the one issue that really exposed them in many peoples eyes like no other. let them try and manipulate what little readership they have left into thinking 9/11 truth is a "rightwing" issue. it wont work. it hasnt worked in the past for Fox News(trying to turn it into a "loony liberal" issue that is).
edit:i just read below where you heard it. disregard that question.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Once the "left" starts trying to say that it's "right-wing" nutjobs who believe in the Truth, someone should make a video compilation of both the right-wing media AND the left-wing media trying to pin the issue on the other team. This will be hilarious, and it will speak volumes about the non-partisan nature of our cause, and about the cowardly tactics of divide and conquer.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Spitzer brokers deal to end W.T.C. insurance dispute
Gov. Eliot Spitzer announced a deal Wednesday for seven insurance companies to pay an additional $2 billion to developer Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority to rebuild the World Trade Center.
The deal brings the total insurance payment for the destruction of the buildings to $4.55 billion, only $100 million less than Silverstein claimed was due after all of the court decisions. He was originally seeking $7 billion, based on the assertion that the two planes hitting the Twin Towers amounted to two separate attacks. He prevailed with that argument on 10 of his 26 insurance policies.
Last year, Silverstein renegotiated his W.T.C. lease with the Port, owners of the site. Silverstein relinquished some of the insurance money to the Port along with the right to rebuild the two least valuable parcels. Silverstein and Port also have about $3 billion in tax-free Liberty Bonds, which are expected to be easier to sell as a result of the new deal.
Spitzer, who reportedly negotiated the deal into the wee hours of Wednesday morning, said it removed “the last major barrier to rebuilding” during a press conference at the State Insurance office on Beaver St. in Lower Manhattan.
was to provide the military/industrial complex with unlimited profits from endless wars. That tiny region has been destabilizing the entire world ever since it was created by Zionists in 1947. It about time we put our foot down & end this mess.
You say it was created by Zionists. That is true, and obvious. Israel was settled by Zionists, by definition.
But do also note that that it was Europeans Jews, mainly, that settled an Arab territory. It was a deal made by and for Europeans, under UN auspices which was and is controlled mainly by the US.
That land-grab could not have happened without colonialism ruling the day. Therefore, this is at base a colonialism/imperialism issue. I think that fact causes the biggest sense of harm over there. Arabs living there got (and get) evicted and squashed by imperialism
The question now becomes: What now? What can people do now, since history can not be erased. You say, end this mess. Good idea, but how?
Roughly the same issues obtain in relation to Native Americans, who owned this land mass, and us. Similar issues obtain with black Africans sold as slaves to people here, in the Americas.
What can we do after such a big and long-lasting atrocity has already happened?
Nelson Mandela had maybe the best answer to this, in South Africa. M.K. Gandhi engineered a similar reconciliation in newly-independent India.
It gets off-topic to discuss this, though as you say it really is important in today's international scene. Ultimately, this issue must have lots to do with 9-11.
ratify a constitution that guarantees equality under the law and the right of return for those forced out in 1947. accept that everyone there as of the enactment is a full and equal citizen, whether Jewish or Arab or Druze or whatever. Then aggressively pursue reconciliation. Nothing else has a remote chance of working.
When Gandhi was trying to dissolve the worst aspects of untouchability in India, and caste fervor, he vowed he would not attend any wedding that were not between castes.
I would hope -- maybe naively -- for the same here. Find ways to get Israeli and Palestinian kids together, often: schooling together, living in nearby neighborhoods, all that. Design a program that invites togetherness of the younger set.
No one in Israel will listen to this idea, of course. It is a pipe-dream at best. As is yours too I suppose.
Here is one major factor: US funding. Where would Israel be without it? I imagine the state could not continue as it does without full US monetary support. Plus military hardware. So, in the end, 'we' are holding all of the cards.
It is strange. Who is this 'we' holding the cards? It never seems like the actual people of the US.
Yes, its time to shin the light on all of this. New movie "Occupation 101" describes history of Zionist state. Read Norman Finklestein's "Beyond Chutzpa". View the video online "Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land". Join "Center for National Interest" a Washington based organization that is questioning the support for Israel. There is also the Mearsheimer and Walt paper on the Israel lobby that is seminal very important read. Lastly, there is quiet rumbling of organizations around the world calling for boycott divestment and sanctions against Israel (this includes labor unions in S. Africa). The oppression of the Palestinian people is one of the reasons we are so hated by world community. It is a reason for blowback that is rarely mentioned by any politician. Its important to remember that the general Israeli populace understands its being manipulated by very powerful forces. Its the government policies, the lobby in this country and the neocon Zionists that call for the policies (apartheid) which foment angry response of people worldwide that are paying attention to truth and injustice.
Yesterday while listening to the Diane Rehm Show (NPR) : http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/07/06/12.php#13221
someone slipped past the screeners and asked why The Demolition of Building 7 has not been covered by mainstream media.
Of course, Scott Gant not being an expert could not address it. Diane Rehm admitted that a great many people (bloggers) have been asking her to cover it.
Great Job Scott getting the truth out ! It is worth hearing:
11:00Scott Gant: "We're All Journalists Now" (Free Press)
In an age of bloggers and blogging, 24/7 news and the near-instant transmission of information, the definition of what it means to be a journalist is changing. A constitutional law and media scholar explains why the nation needs to reconsider what the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote about 'freedom of the press.'
Guests
Scott Gant, a partner with Boies, Schiller & Flexner, practicing constitutional and media law.
When I first "woke up" I sent the Diane Rehm show a nasty e-mail. A link to a Steven Jones talk or something, and the message said, "You are journalists. You better do your goddamn job."
I don't listen to NPR anymore.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
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3. Prove that the 16th amendment to the United States Constitution, which, according to the IRS and modern American courts permitted the income tax to exist was, lawfully added to the United States Constitution.
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Good luck, and if you win be sure you pay your taxes on the winnings...
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Physics/Science/Mathematics do not lie, only people do.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB
9/11 was an inside job, another fraud we must go after is the income tax system.
The IRS & certain other federal agencies are basically self-funding racketeering operations approved by our criminal government!
Another huge evil is the Federal Reserve which is not federal at all. It's a private bank owned by the world's elite that has wrongfully been issuing & profiting off our currency since 1913.
Agreed. I liked Money as Debt as the best explanation of the money system (available on Google or YouTube). I especially liked the explanation of inflation as the only real tax we need. If the government printed its own money instead of borrowing, then they would have to limit spending in order to keep inflation down. Because more money means more supply and lower real value, inflation hits our pocketbook the same as a tax. The reason we don't do this is because the government gave up its responsibility to coin money to the federal reserve bank cartel so that any money it spends needs to either be raised by taxation or borrowing. What a scam! If the gov just printed for free whatever it needed to spend, we would then as citizens have to hold them responsible and vote them out if they spent more than our own productivity could withstand. We would then by necessity need to be productive again so that we could sell things to the world and further support the value of our currency. To leave all of that to a private cartel of rich international asswipes is crazy... This is true on the macro level as well as on the micro level where families and individuals live beyond their means in the present by mortgaging their future wealth to private banks through the predatory credit system. This really should be a non-partisan issue, just like 9/11...
It is a more likely scenario that the American people will awake to the income tax fraud en masse first. Because honestly, who likes to pay their income tax?
The privately owned federal reserve, the 16th amendment and the 17th amendment all came into being in 1913.
These three items were a surgical strike on the American republic by the ultra super rich money controllers.
They aren't stupid. They knew just what they had to do.
They picked these three means to overthrow the American republic and its constitution with the ends being the North American Union.
And with a bought off ignorant traitor dumb-Ass complicit president Woodrow Wilson we immediately started into WW 1 which was the start of the whole military industrial complex disaster of perpetual eternal war and the seeds of the secret police organizations of today which leads thru to the military dictatorship we live in today.
As General Butler says in "War is a racket". Sorry, paraphrasing. Armies are just tools for the bankers to get back the money they loan countries when the countries can't pay the loans back. And reading his book he talks about all the money corporations made off World War 1. He talks about what kind of money they were making before this war and during this war. The profits were already there before that war but they mulitiplied many fold during the war. War is a profit industry for those who make the clothes, tires, war vehicles, war planes and weapons.
To get smart about the private Federal Reserve (our unconstitutional fourth branch of govt which really controls the other three).
Read "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" by Eustace Mullins.
Read "Jekyll Island" by Griffith.
Listen to "America Freedom to Fascism" by Aaron Russo.
Listen to "The money masters" parts 1 and 2 on video.google.com
Read this amazing link http://publiccentralbank.com/
THe federal reserve is a privately owned cartel which preserves the monopoly of the big New York City banks and also has a government facade. The govt tolerates the federal reserve because then it can borrow money without having to raise taxes which might get them kicked out and what would they have to do then, get an honest job like the rest of us. Don't want people to become aware that they are getting secretly taxes thru inflation; which by the way was nearly non existant in the 19th century.
Amendment 16:
There were NO income taxes before 1913.
Immediately after 1913 there was a 1% income tax.
They got their foot in the door and now its a 50% income tax with more on the way.
Why does the govt need our money ? It can print all it wants. Its about control. Its about taking what we have so we don't have time to involve ourselves with the issues of the day. Like become again involved with local govt. Like studying about the North American Union - a dictatorial state where we will have no American constitution and no human rights and we will be at the whim of the money controllers and their non-elected beauracracy. Like deal with nation destroying illegal immigration. etc...
Amendment 17:
This amendment removed the power of the state legislatures to vote in the Senators.
The Constitution had its reasons for voting in Senators thru the state legislatures alone.
This amendment has the Senators being voted in by popular vote as Congressmen are.
While this may sound good and democratic we already have the House of Representatives being voted in by popular vote.
Why did the money controllers go after this one ?
So, that the power of the balancing state legislatures would not be represented in the federal government.
This was to centralize power in Washington DC at the federal level and remove the power of the state legislatures.
This Amendment is little talked about but IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
Email and call your state legislatures to get rid of Amendment 17.
I believe it was also never ratified either.
By repealing this unratified 17th Amendment it will restore the power of the State legislatures AND make it MUCH HARDER for the super money controllers to control the federal goverment and this country as they do today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These three items are a means to bring us into a full dictatorship. They are not the end. The end is the North American Union with complete destruction of the constitution, no voting, complete control of an Amero currency with the parasitic bankers gorging the lifeblood out of the other 450 million North Americans.
Also, in 1919 or so the Federal Reserve then went about to buy out the media. They had a study on how they could do this. What they then did was buy out the heart of 25 of the major newspapers in the US. And voila. THey not only control the money but they control the news. They own the Washington Post and the New York Times.
This is the motto the recently adopted for thier company. I wonder if they include censorship as "evil", because I kinda do. I'm refering to the google video "top 100" and specificly loose change 2e (maybe others though) ever since 9/11 mysteries got pulled not one 9/11 video (except what Bob & Bri saw) has been in the top 100, even though LC2e has (by thier tracker) been consistantly in the top 100 for view for the previous day (from 30s-90s). Currently for today it stands @ 107, however if you look at the bottom of the list things that are ranking in the 200s are up there. Can someone repost this (or a sumation) on the LC forum/blog and see what type of response we can get, I hate to have to prod google, but something has to be done (can anyone find a phone # contact that we can call for this). This is an information war right now, and think how many people have seen LC2e just from that (top 100) page! Google obey your own rules, and give credit where it's due...... there are enough videos of scantliy clad girls on the internet, if a different one of value gets the hits, acknowledge that. That is "doing no evil"!
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." ---- Mark Twain
From censoring/burying 911 Truth to helping the gov spy on Americans through their own computers, google's "do no evil" fits in perfectly with Bush's "Freedom Agenda"...."Clear Skies Act"...."Patriot Act"....etc.
In other words, google's actions speak louder than their words, and they appear to be not much better than YouTube/MySpace.
YouTube recently canned some other accounts that posted good 911 Truth info:
Has there been a mass exodus to a new video sharing site to avoid this type of censorship (or in light of this - should there be?)
It seems like such a waste of good hard work for accounts to be set up like this, then having watchers saving/using links to the videos to share for activism - only to be discover it becomes a complete dead end. Sometimes I post links on some reader comment sites, double check the link to make sure it's still working, but by the next day - the page I have linked to has been removed. I almost get the sense that "somebody" is reading posts picked up by keywords and then hacking the pages linked.
Should we try to designate a new video sharing site as a clearinghouse for 911 related material, that has not been bought/sold out ....or would that just bring more attention to it and a subsequent concerted effort to have it destroyed?
More and more - I am thinking..."It's the free dvd's stupid!"
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke, 1729 - 1797
I'm having trouble downloading google videos now with tried and true scripts and sites. They have created some new type of frame and I can't get out of the frickin' thing either.
Anybody know the scoop or is it just me?
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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)
I heard from a guy on the street who stopped to talk about 9/11 that The Nation is planning to run a hit piece that links the 9/11 truth movement to right wing causes/individuals/etc. His friend is an intern there and is working on the piece, which I will be looking out for.
I think that given the fact that certain elements in the truth movement may well appear to the public to be fairly right wing this is something that we should all be aware of and try to counteract. While everyone working to get at the truth of 9/11 is entitled to their views on anything and everything, we should take into account all tactics being used to turn the public against our movement and be able to counter them. This means that those of us who take issue with the more right wing elements in the truth movement should step up our efforts to appeal broadly to the public, if need be by distancing ourselves from those who promote 9/11 in conjunction with traditionally right wing causes like anti-tax, pro-gun, and isolationist stances. Let me emphasize that this is not to say any of these positions are bad or wrong, just that as a matter of PR and perception management we cannot afford to have rags like the Nation continue to promote left-gatekeeping by using this tactic.
.....On Faux, they contort themselves into knots to portray the Truth Movement as "liberal" to turn off their viewers from looking into 9/11.....no surprise that the propaganda machine would do the opposite in liberal forums like the Nation....
IMO, I would hope that we always enthusiastically point out that the movement has many people from all over the political spectrum....it would be to our great disadvantage to distance ourselves from either patriotic, well-meaning conservatives or liberals....
basically to tell whomever, whether they lean left or right, that YES, people LIKE THEM are into 9/11 Truth. It's an American issue, even a global issue, not at all a partisan issue. If we want to dismantle the gatekeepers' and fake left right paradigm's power structure we have to push hard on this simple fact...
The great uniter (who became the great divider) has actually come full circle. I see people in every spectrum uniting over 911 truth, loss of liberties, the environment, the wars. It is interesting what is happening. It requires a new tolerance because we are mixing and uniting.
Is the Nation mag going to alienate us? They will make themselves obsolete.
is that it has no "left" or "right". The melting point of steel is the melting point of steel whether you are a communist, a facist, a libertarian, a jew, a christian, a buddist, a muslim or a voodoo priestess. The same goes for law of conservation of momentum, and the laws of thermodynamics.
Sometimes I feel like I am living in a nightmare. The science of these events is irrefutable, and shows with as much certainty as you are ever going to get in this world that the events of 9-11 simply could not have happended the way the OCT says they did. Anyone with an 8th grade level education could understand it if presented with the evidence.
.....and yet almost 6 years later the propaganda rather than the facts holds sway. If I read the same senario in a fiction novel, or saw it in a movie, I would not believe it.
It has thus far been a truly astonishing accomplishment for the government/corporate media machine. Quite amazing indeed.
Finally, somebody gives my profession a little respect and recognition!
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
This means that those of us who take issue with the more right wing elements in the truth movement should step up our efforts to appeal broadly to the public, if need be by distancing ourselves from those who promote 9/11 in conjunction with traditionally right wing causes like anti-tax, pro-gun, and isolationist stances
WRONG!!! This means that people who hold those political beliefs and people who hold "lefty" political beliefs should appear TOGETHER and LOUDLY voice their non-partisan support of the truth. Go do a video with an anti-tax gun-nut, RT, and both of you explain how you have different views on many issues, but you agree that the truth is the truth.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I understand your concern here in a way. I find myself experiencing some misgivings about alinging myself with people who's politics I might not have agreed with just a few months ago. For example, I do have a bit of trouble with Ron Paul's stance on abortion. Then again, I've got a whole new level of respect for "gun nuts" since I now see a real threat from our tyrannical government.
Anyway, I say we just keep doing what we've been doing, then when the left tries to label us "righty" we just compile those videos / articles with the ones put out by Faux trying to label us as "the loony left". Neither side wants to touch us? Well then it should be clear that this is a non-partisan issue. With a little clever video splicing, both teams could end up with egg on their faces.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I am sorry I have not seen you in awhile. It's not you, it's me. I have found a new passion. I know I know, you think I am a fool. But I can't take it anymore. I can't satisfy you on my own. I need some help. I have started seeing Ron Paul. I feel that together, he and I can give what you deserve. I hope you are not mad. I will see you soon. Hopefully I can introduce to Ron Paul sometime. I think you would love him. Until then, please don't feel that I have just used you...Again, this is ultimitly for you. I hope you can forgive me.
Australia's top Muslim cleric riled critics on Tuesday by questioning Osama bin Laden's role in the September 11 attacks on the United States, a day after being appointed to repair strains with non-Muslim Australians. Getting plenty of coverage - I am sure we have not heard the last of him:
Also - walking around Asda (aka WalMart) in Harrogate, North Yorkshire yesterday and a news bulletin over the tannoy mentioned Olson and the twin towers but I didn't quite catch it - what the bloody hell is going on?
Also - 911 truth poster in Knaresborough bus station with polite notice to leave it there - it was left there for one week
I think that Bush is part of a crime family, but like all mafia, there are sometimes turf-wars. This time, the Bush Crime Family got outfoxed by another crime family. It seems reasonable to gather all the information we have about who is the most likely perpetrator of 9/11. Who could the criminals be? Let's see . . .
-who had spies in our country living next to the supposed hijackers?
-who was captured celebrating in view of the attacks, who had vans with explosives, cash, box-cutters, other people's passports?
-who failed lie-detector tests but were quietly allowed to leave the country on "visa violations?"
-who would like to pin the blame on Saudi Arabia?
-who called for a "new pearl harbor?"
-who wrote about the need to "secure the realm?" (bonus point: where is that realm?)
-who took ownership (with insurance terrorist rider) of the Twin Towers shortly before 9/11?
-who took out put options on the United and American Airlines?
-who was in charge of the 9/11 Commission?
-who owns the media?
-who owns congress?
-who owns most of the presidential candidates for the 2008 “election?”
-who benefited from the invasion of Iraq?
-who is helping to foment unrest in Iraq, alongside US soldiers?
-who has an exalted history of engagin in false-flag terror attacks?
-who is trying to get us to invade Iran?
Guess who?
This list, drawn from memory, may represent the proverbial tip of the iceberg. Feel free to add more or critique as necessary.
Kate of the Kiosk posted that link on another blog, but I had to repeat it here, as it really gave me pause.
Maybe Bush let it happen and the Israeli Mossad made it happen. LIHOP AND MIHOP. (FYI, I think that Cheney is definitely on the MIHOP side.) Unless Bush invades Iran, I predict that the media will try to pin 9/11 entirely on him. He was afterall in charge on 9/11 but went AWOL, he stalled an investigation, he wouldn't testify publically, under oath, or on his own. On the other hand, maybe the Mossad are using the threat of blaming Bush for 9/11 only as blackmail to invade. Afterall, if Bush testifies, he might point a few fingers.
(Then again, all they need to do is plant an intern in Bush's office, wait for the inevitable affair, and then threaten to reveal the affair. [Afterall, who saves a dress with semen on it? Any women you know?] As a twist on this technique, they kill the intern and frame the politician, aka Condit, Scarborough, etc. It's a mini-false flag attack. Or maybe they already have the goods on Bush already. Remember that gay fake reporter who visited the whitehouse a lot after hours? Wasn't he really a professional escort?)
I noticed that quite a few of the posters on 911 blogger get upset when people try to explore who besides the Bush Administration may be responsible for these attacks. Truth is truth, and we should go wherever it leads.
I am afraid of a nuclear false-flag attack coming to the US to be blamed on Iran. Wake up!
p.s. I posted this as a blog but don't expect it will appear, so I'm posting it here.
But be careful with Bollyn and Smith--their info is often good but there's something weird about both of them AND Eric Hufschmid... I think this is a great topic of discussion--namekly is Bush being blackmailed? Please post it as a blog on wtcdemolition.com/blog ! I'm by no means trying to replace this site, which I think is great, but I do realize that some topics are not as welcome as others and I think there needs to be an alternative outlet for those...
RT - I tried to join your site but am still waiting for my email with a password! Please advise. I saw no email to contact you either or i would have done so.
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Explain Marvin Bush / Wirt Walker III and Securacom. Explain Jeb's Role in BOTH the Florida elections, AND providing Dubya with a "safe haven" in Florida on the morning of 9/11. Explain the Bush Family ties to the bin Laden family. Explain the Carlyle Group's (Daddy's) war profiteering. Explain Jeb's involvement with PNAC and "Rebuilding America's Defenses".
Explain what Dubya has been gleefully doing to the U.S. Constitution!!!!!!!!
Seriously, are you guys having some kind of seizure that is preventing oxygen from reaching your brains or something?
I don't mean to be combative, but this is really outrageous. BUSH IS GUILTY. His non-9/11 crimes alone would put him away for life, or end his life.
Hello!! WMD LIES - WAR CRIMES - TORTURE - ILLEGAL DOMESTIC SPYING - VALERIE PLAME/TAMPERING WITH A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION...
Why on Earth would he and his family be involved in all these other things, but NOT 9/11? Even when there is clear evidence that they WERE involved in 9/11!!
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
You are absolutely right about Bush. He is guilty. He probably isn't smart enough to have planned it - but I am sure he knew what was going down. Cheney probably just told him, "don't worry your pretty little head; I'll take care of everything." Certainly plenty of other Bush clan members were implicated. And Bush had to have signed the order taking guns away from pilots, he saw all the PDBs, etc. And since then he has done a bang-up job of destroying our country, our laws, our economy, our state of mind, and our relations with others abroad. He knowingly lied us into a war and is therefore directly responsible for the deaths and maimings (physically and psychologically) of our troops. And we have had close to one million Iraqis die as a direct result of the invasion; I don't know how many Afghanistanis. Untold millions are suffering, displaced, raped, their homes destroyed. But I still very much doubt that Bush and members of his administration were the _only_ ones.
I should have phrased my earlier post better. What I meant to say is that Bush could be left to hang all my himself. Right now, the current lie is that it was 19 arab hijackers, mostly Saudis, who orchestrated the events of 9/11. Some people are, wittingly or not, framing the opposite of that story to be simply "bush did it," or "it was an inside job." Instead of allowing for the opposite to be "select members of our gov't working in concert or directed by persons from another country or sympathetic to another country." I do feel like our country has been taken over, with collusion from Bushies to be sure, but taken over nonetheless. By Israel.
Again, I could have phrased my post better. Toward the end, I did say that "I noticed that quite a few of the posters on 911 blogger get upset when people try to explore who besides the Bush Administration may be responsible for these attacks." But at the beginning of the post I screwed up.
Yeah, I wouldn't say "Israel" either though. A criminal gang of international "elites", including factions from Europe, North America, Israel... I'm not trying to say "Bush did it", I'm just saying let's not let that little worm wiggle off the hook either. It is unlikely that he would have been involved in the planning, but he is surely complicit, and surely knew what was going down. Daddy might very well have been involved in planning...
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I'm not so sure that Bush was blackmailed, but I have yet to see PROOF that he was active in planning it. Cheney seems to be pretty clearly involved, but since he controls Bush, who knows if he told him? He could have said "Don't worry about it. We've got people on it" with regard to the PDB, etc. Cheney could have planned the school visit for him so that he would be in public and clear of suspicion. In my opinion, in the classroom video Bush seemed a bit stunned, but not completely surprised which leads me to believe he wasn't in on the planning.
Now, I think Bush is a war criminal anyway, so I'm not saying he's innocent. It's just bothered me for awhile now that people are making assertions about who the perpetrators were without concrete evidence. I think it turns off people who aren't familiar with 9/11 Truth. I try to tell people the range of opinions of LIHOP to MIHOP when I broach the subject. Personally, I tend to think it's a combination of the two, but I think it's too early to say on what level certain people were involved.
Which brings me to the point I've wanted to make for awhile in regard to Bin Laden. There are some on here who believe that he's still a CIA asset and that he's been controlled the whole time. The problem with that is, why would he immediately deny involvement, forcing the CIA to create a phony confession video? It doesn't make sense. Yes, I think Al Qaida is/was infiltrated—if not mostly made up of—Western intelligence agents. But it seems Bin Laden was just made the bogeyman, while the agents in the ranks planned and carried out 9/11.
Of course, there is a lot of info out there, so feel free to correct me where you think I'm ignorant or stupid or just plain wrong.
RT,
Feel free to post my blog yourself on your site. And you can rewrite it a bit to make it clear that I think that Bush and some other party worked in concert but that Bush may end up shouldering all the blame. I should have made that clearer.
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But PLEASE don't try to exonerate Bush, or any of his family!! If you don't think the Bush's are complicit on a MIHOP level, maybe you need to get your nose out of the rotten matzah for a while and investigate the Bush horde. They're all guilty/complicit!! Bushes, Silversteins, Zionist neocons, Rupert Murdoch and his propaganda minions, Clintons, Kerry...
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I've also had blogs not appear without any explanation.
HINT TO MANAGEMENT: You should give a reason why blogs aren't posted, rather than this invisible censorship.
"-who took ownership (with insurance terrorist rider) of the Twin Towers shortly before 9/11?"
The insinuation is that Silverstein has links to the Israeli government. Is there any "hard evidence" to support this? What do we know about Silverstein's history and connections?
Hi John,
I'm pretty new, so I don't know what the normal procedure is. I have submitted 4 blogs, and one made it. I don't know if they were rejected for being OT, offensive, or boring, . . . maybe all three!
Links to Israeli gov't?
Here is the ABSOLUTE best summary of Larry's links to 9/11 and "Israel" (meaning Mossad & the Likud wing of the Israeli gov't): http://www.serendipity.li/wot/lehrman.htm
That page also details nicely the Mossad connections to 9/11, but the best page I've found is here:
---Here's a nice quote from the end of the page listed above:
I'll close with the words of Phil Jayhan of letsroll911.org:
It can further be proven that the World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolitions, purposely, with 3000 innocent, helpless souls inside. With this being the case, it changes everything for the World, for Afghanistan, for Iraq, for George Bush, and lastly but not least, the insurance companies involved. This website will save them billions! It will save United & American Airlines billions, and help everyone recover losses already paid out. Not only was 911 pre-planned, but those who did so, did so with the intention of using this event to defraud insurance companies out of billions upon billions of dollars at the same time. Thus making the insurance claims null and void. I sure would hate to be Larry Silverstein right now, cause this doesn't look good for him. He bought the World Trade Center some 90 days before 911 with all sorts of special and now, in hindsight, curious insurance riders. He bought 2 Asbestos filled 'Golden Herring' Towers which would cost more to tear down than to replace. And now, he has the gall to try to make the insurance companies double pay for the World Trade Center. Shameless. But with this new development, the insurance companies can not only stop payment on all 911 claims, but they can now start to recover their huge losses due to fraud. What will Larry Silverstein settle for now? Perhaps he knew nothing, one can only hope. It will be for the investigators of the true official investigation to figure out. But as of yet, this investigation hasn't started. The sham 911 commission is designed to cover this up. The true investigation, in my opinion, will only be done by those who have the most to lose. Insurance companies. When they see the Dog and Pony show that has been leveled against them, they will, and should rise up in unison and say; "Nope, not a dime ... Let the insiders pay for their handiwork! With the information here at the site, it should provide the Insurance companies with far more than enough reason to just say 'no' to another nickel or dime payout. Let the truth begin and let's leave the falsehoods behind....
This is good info from Ostrovsky, but it doesn't prove anything about Silverstein:
"Victor Ostrovsky in his book By Way of Deception describes the sayanim thus:
There are thousands of sayanim around the world. In London alone, there are about 2,000 who are active, and another 5,000 on the list. They fulfill many different roles. A car sayan, for example, running a rental agency, could help the Mossad rent a car without having to complete the usual documentation. An apartment sayan would find accommodation without raising suspicions, a bank sayan could get you money if you needed it in the middle of the night, a doctor sayan would treat a bullet wound without reporting it to the police, and so on. The idea is to have a pool of people available when needed who can provide services but will keep quiet about them out of loyalty to the cause. They are paid only costs. Often the loyalty of sayanim is abused by katsas who take advantage of the available help for their own personal use. There is no way for the sayan to check this. "
This does not show up at all:
"Silverstein's Relationship with Israel's Likud Party and Ariel Sharon:
"As Dafna Barak of the Israeli Free Trade Zones Council says: "... A man like Larry Silverstein ... contributes millions of dollars every year to Israel.""
This is unsourced to anywhere:
"Furthermore, it turns out Silverstein was actually a very close friend of Netanyahu:
The two have been on friendly terms since Netanyahu's stint as Israel's ambassador to the United Nations. For years they kept in close touch. Every Sunday afternoon, New York time, Netanyahu would call Silverstein. It made no difference what the subject was or where Netanyahu was, he would always call, Silverstein told an Israeli acquaintance. Their ties continued after Netanyahu became prime minister. They met several times and Netanyahu promised to give the project (Free Processing Zone in Israel) his support. "
A "truth movement" cannot function on such flimsy sources of information.
Hi John,
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't mean to come up with incorrect sources. I'm just searching for the truth here. I desperately want to know what the correct sources are to figure out who ALL the culprits of 9/11 are.
Can you help me?
Your comment was in fact ambiguous. Do you think that there is in fact no Israeli/Mossad/Likud connection to 9/11 OR that I have used the incorrect sources to demonstrate that link? Please advise.
'Unless Bush invades Iran, I predict that the media will try to pin 9/11 entirely on him.'
Nope. Casting aside the official account of 9/11 as a crime solely perpetrated by Muslim extremists would defeat their entire purpose. Indeed, any exposure of the reality of false-flag terror to the general public would defeat their purpose. I've said it before and I'll say it again--if the elites saw any advantage in revealing anything beyond official 'incompetence' with respect to 9/11, it would have been revealed long ago. Instead, after long being ignored completely, we continue to be attacked and scorned, while elite critics of the administration try every other angle except 9/11 truth to damage the administration.
I hear the Imam in charge said that the coalition forces made the decision to pull it, then they watched it collapse. By pull it he meant pull out the Korans, I think...
He meant pull everyone out by their beards.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Mr. Kevin Barett came back from Morocco. Now is anyone had any kind of info about is search about the living 911 pilot-therorist ....!!?? Or have I missed something here?
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You can't hide a lie for long. Truth shall come out.
Maybe 911Blogger people can help me. There is a guy in a FOX News clip on 9-11 describing what he saw. You see him in a lot of 9-11 films - the latest I've seen is in 9-11 Mysteries, when she discusses the birth of the 9-11 myth that day. He's wearing a black baseball cap and black Harley Davidson t-shirt. He has the look and voice of an actor to me, and his composure as he describes the day's events to the FOX News reporter always struck me as strange, very prepared. He finishes by saying how he "saw the towers collapse, first one and then the other, mostly due to structural failure because the fires were so intense". He had the official explanation of the collapse of the Towers days and weeks before anyone ventured a possible reason for the collapses.
He speaks so clearly and calmly, and hits the main points so concisely, I've always thought he was a disinfo agent. I've never seen anyone comment on this guy. Does anyone know who he is?
hahaha, that would be the much talked about Harley Guy, the on the scene "expert" with the "everyman" look. as far as i know he has never been indentified. big surprise that he ends up on Fox though no?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
notice the smile on his face too, he can barely hide it. and the Harley shirt really is sloppy work in my opinion. i guess it worked at the time though. great link by the way. Jerome Hauer is a scumbag.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
for the info and video link. That guy has always bugged me and I guess I missed the discussions about him. In our CSI world, you'd think he'd be trackable with some cool face recogition software and massive media database search - like the military has.
I like this picture from the San Diego people. I was wondering why Jerome was at the top, after watching that last video I fully understand. Print it out and put it up as a poster at your local post office!
the morgantown truth group had their first meeting, which went swimmingly. 2 guys in our group can get professional banners and t-shirts at cost which will give us great visibility on the street
Tony Blair has said the media can operate like "a feral beast" and its relationship with politicians is "damaged" and in need of repair.
The prime minister said relations had always been fraught, but now threatened politicians' "capacity to take the right decisions for the country".
The arrival of web-based news and blogs and 24-hour television news channels meant reports were "driven by impact".
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Extended excerpts from his speech, which can be found here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6744581.stm
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Internet advertising has overtaken newspaper ads. There are roughly 70 million blogs in existence, with around 120,000 being created every day. In particular, younger people will, less and less, get their news from traditional outlets.
But, in addition, the forms of communication are merging and interchanging. The BBC website is crucial to the modern BBC. Papers have Podcasts and written material on the web. News is becoming increasingly a free good, provided online without charge. Realistically, these trends won't do anything other than intensify. These changes are obvious. But less obvious is their effect.
The news schedule is now 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. It moves in real time. Papers don't give you up to date news. That's already out there.
They have to break stories, try to lead the schedules. Or they give a commentary. And it all happens with outstanding speed. When I fought the 1997 election - just ten years ago - we took an issue a day. In 2005, we had to have one for the morning, another for the afternoon and by the evening the agenda had already moved on. You have to respond to stories also in real time.
Frequently the problem is as much assembling the facts as giving them. Make a mistake and you quickly transfer from drama into crisis. In the 1960s the government would sometimes, on a serious issue, have a Cabinet lasting two days.
It would be laughable to think you could do that now without the heavens falling in before lunch on the first day. Things harden within minutes. I mean you can't let speculation stay out there for longer than an instant.
I am going to say something that few people in public life will say, but most know is absolutely true: a vast aspect of our jobs today - outside of the really major decisions, as big as anything else - is coping with the media, its sheer scale, weight and constant hyperactivity.
At points, it literally overwhelms. Talk to senior people in virtually any walk of life today - business, military, public services, sport, even charities and voluntary organisations and they will tell you the same. People don't speak about it because, in the main, they are afraid to.
But it is true, nonetheless, and those who have been around long enough, will also say it has changed significantly in the past years. The danger is, however, that we then commit the same mistake as the media do with us: it's the fault of bad people.
My point is: it is not the people who have changed; it is the context within which they work. We devote reams of space to debating why there is so much cynicism about politics and public life. In this, the politicians are obliged to go into self flagellation, admitting it is all our fault.
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OFCOM regulate broadcasting, except for the BBC, which largely has its own system of regulation. But under the new European regulations all television streamed over the internet may be covered by OFCOM.
As the technology blurs the distinction between papers and television, it becomes increasingly irrational to have different systems of accountability based on technology that no longer can be differentiated in the old way.
How this is done is an open question and, of course, the distinction between balance required of broadcasters but not of papers remains valid. But at some point the system is going to change and the importance of accuracy will not diminish, whilst the freedom to comment remains.
It is sometimes said that the media is accountable daily through the choice of readers and viewers. That is true up to a point. But the reality is that the viewers or readers have no objective yardstick to measure what they are being told. In every other walk of life in our society that exercises power, there are external forms of accountability, not least through the media itself.
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Cheers,
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"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." Albert Einstein
Blair Calls For Chinese Style Net Controls In the UK
Declares war on "pernicious conspiracy theory" media coverage
Outgoing British Prime Minister Tony Blair has savaged online media today in a speech in which he declared war on the free press by hinting at new restrictions on internet journalism and suggested that the media should be brought more into line with the government.
Blair complained that the media was too "feral" (i.e. not tamed by the government) and referring to online journalism stated:
"In fact, the new forms can be even more pernicious, less balanced, more intent on the latest conspiracy theory multiplied by five."
This is an outright call for a crackdown on the free press. Blair is out in the open here saying the media is too independent of the government, he is admitting that the freedom with which the media, especially online, is now operating is hurting his government and its agenda.
Blair has recently been under the media microscope concerning the BAE cover up over Saudi arms dealing. Before that he was subject to scrutiny and twice questioned by police over the cash for honours scandal where peerages were handed out by the government in exchange for financial favours. No doubt these are the kind of "conspiracy theories" Mr Blair wishes the media to be unable to cover, along with the scores of lies he told in the lead up to the Iraq war.
Blair can whine and whine all day long but the fact is it is the openness with which his government has conducted its criminal actions and its own attempts to use the free press as a propaganda arm that has led to a surge in media scrutiny.
There is nothing he nor his elite masters can do to win this battle save shutting down the internet and free speech completely and risking revolution.
Has anyone tried to interview the guys that drove the trucks that hauled the debris away from ground zero? I haven't read anything about them. Seems like they might have some interesting info if any of them could be found and would speak. I have no idea how to find them, of course, but surely at least the names of the companies involved are known. License tag numbers in photos? Somewhere I read that the trucks were all suspiciously new and seemingly arranged for ahead of time, but I don't remember where (and I don't think there was any evidence of that given). The trail of the evidence disposal seems an under-evaluated part of the tale to me.
A friend of mine here in the Cincinnati area was sent (involuntarily) to a psychiatric ward because he believes 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! After that he was arrested for possession of firearms (that he had owned) which is illegal if you have been sent to a psychiatric ward. A CATCH-22. So Michael has been in prison from November 2006 and there he still remains. The psychologists and psychriatrists at the Federal Medical Center where he is being held want to force Michael to take antipsychotic drugs for his 'views' and in order to stand trial. Problem is... Mike Cook is NOT mentally ill. He is being railroaded to prison based on judicial ignorance and incompetence.
The memorandum below was filed by Michael Cook's attorney on May 14, 2007. Michael is scheduled for a hearing on July 3, 2007 at 9:30 in the United States District Court Eastern District Of Kentucky. Michael will be present at the Kentucky hearing via video conferencing from his detention facility in Butner, North Carolina FEDERAL MEDICAL CENTER!!!
HERE'S WHAT MICHAEL COOK'S ATTORNEY SAYS ABOUT MIKE:
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MEMORANDUM
The Government has moved the Court to order the involuntary administration of antipsychotic medications to Michael Cook in an attempt to restore him to competency to stand trial. The record does not include any allegation that Michael is a danger to himself or others. To the contrary, the April 16, 2007 report provide to the Court by Drs. Cochrane and Herbal states that Michael resided in an open mental health unit, quickly adjusted to the routine, was never observed becoming confused or disoriented, was behaviorally stable, never exhibited any bizarre or disruptive behavior, did not violate any institutional rules, was never observed responding to internal stimuli (i.e. hallucinations), was routinely observed reading, socializing with his peers, and engaging in activities on the unit without incident. (April 26, 2007 Report of Drs. Cochrane and Herbal, page 4, 1st full paragraph). Michael simply maintains a view of certain historical events that is different from the majority of people. However, there are many books, articles, internet sites, DVD's, CDs, and movies that appear to indicate that Michael is not the only person that maintains this particular view. Other than this particular viewpoint, there does not appear to be any evidence of record that Michael is suffering from a mental illness.
The indictment in this matter alleges the mere possession of certain firearms. The types of firearms set forth in the indictment are the type normally possessed by individuals for sporting and collecting purposes. There are no allegations of any use of the firearms by Michael. The issue in this case is whether Michael should be forced to take medication against his will solely in an attempt to restore him competency to stand trial.
Michael Cook, through counsel respectfully requests the Court to deny the Government's Motion. Alternatively, an evidentiary hearing to address the the factors established in Sell v. United States, 539 U.S. 166, 179 (2003) is requested.
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If you know of anyone you know who may be able to help Mike Cook from being forcibly medicated and kept in a Federal Medical Center for another six months or much longer please contact me via email at: Cincy911Truth@hotmail.com
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"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow
This is a really sad situation. I've listened to a recorded phone call with Michael and he could be any one of us. But I found out that he was arrested for sending an email to a professor that B should be put before a firing squad. I wish he had just said he belonged before a criminal court. He was reported. We have to be really careful how much we say.
Michael is not ill, he is just angry and frustrated just like all of us. He has become interested in the Course in Miracles but they won't let him have any books or tapes.. My suggestion is we send him cards with a paragraph from the course as spiritual medicine for him. He is really trying to make the best of this situation. Very commendable.
Yes, Mike sent an email to the President of Northern Kentucky University (where Bush was to appear) saying that 'Bush would some day be shot for treason' (for his 9/11 crimes). So the NKU President forwarded the email to the Secret Service and they paid a visit to Mike. Mike agrees he used a very poor choice of words and should have said something like what you suggested. "Bush belongs in a criminal court". Once they learned of Mike's ownership of firearms this charade began.
"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow
Thank you so much for posting this information. It puts my situation in proper perspective.
BTW, this operation has similarities with what happened to the journalist who is also a cousin of Andrew Card. I cannot remember the woman's name, just it begins with an "L".
I can only imagine how many others they have stripped of freedom for exercising their 1st Amendment Right.
I heard that a new FEDERAL law is about to be passed that makes it illegal for persons previously diagnosed as "mentally ill" to own firearms. I don't know the details, just heard this on NPR this afternoon. I don't own a gun anyway, but I worry that any gov't dissident will now be labeled "mentally ill" and arrested if they have guns, like this fellow. That pretty much removes the opposition, doesn't it?
"911 Mysteries" is looking for those who posted the video, in whole or in part, on YouTube or Google Video. Re-activation of the links (taken down by Rick Siegel) cannot be performed without the help of these individuals. If you posted "911 Mysteries" on Google or YouTube, please contact us at www.911WeKnow.com . We are especially looking for the person who uploaded the primary Google Video file which received over 2.5 million views.
I've heard accusations that "Sofia" and the crew at 911 Mysteries has fabricated evidence including adding sounds of explosions that were not in the original footage. What is the story on this?
That site is run by Rick Siegal, who is engaged in an ongoing mud slinging attack against Sophia. I used to respect Rick Siegal, but not anymore. Rick has gone off the deep end and seems to be throwing outrageous accusations around in every direction against many good 9/11 researchers. I now consider him poisen for the 9/11 truth movement. It's kind of sad he has gone down this road. I'm not sure if it's his ego, or if he is intentionally trying to damage the movement.
Congressman Dennis Kucinich has just announced that he will begin holding new hearings into 9/11 beginning in September because "the Commission Final Report... never resolved certain conflicts." The acclaimed film 9/11 Press For Truth details those conflicts like no other movie has, featuring five members of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee (the small group of victim's relatives who forced the creation of the 9/11 Commission), who revealed for the first time in the movie that "70% of our questions" were not answered by the Final Report.
In response to Kucinich's announcement, the makers of 9/11 Press For Truth are launching of a new campaign to bring about real answers for the September 11th families -- and a brand new web site at 911PressForTruth.com.
From August 3rd - 12th, a coalition of organizations will join forces to host "Answers For 9/11 Families" week. Hundreds of Americans will come together at house parties across the country to screen 9/11 Press For Truth, telling the powerful story of the September 11th families' continuing fight for answers.
Now, Please join the effort to encourage Congress to support Kucinich's investigation until all remaining Family Steering Committee questions are answered. Send a "Press For Truth Pack" to your Congressman and sign up today to host or attend a 9/11 Press For Truth house party in your community.
(NOTE: Simple instructions on how to make your house party film screening a success will be emailed to everyone who signs up to host a party. Please order your DVD immediately after signing up in order to ensure it arrives in time for your house party.)
"We thought the country was at risk from terrorists and from incompetence," says Jersey widow Lorie Van Auken in the movie, "and maybe worse." Fellow 'Jersey Girl' Patty Casazza puts it more succinctly: "They lied. They all lied." With an election year looming, it is more important than ever that we demand Congressional hearings that will finally provide the answers these families have devoted over five years of their lives toward.
And we hope you'll join us in August. Open your house to family, friends and neighbors - or join them at a house party nearby http://pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/ -- to watch this movie and support the Kucinich subcommittee investigation until all remaining Family Steering Committee questions are answered. Thank you so much for you support. Sincerely,
Ray Nowosielski, Director/Co-Writer/Co-Producer
9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH
"With an election year looming, it is more important than ever that we demand Congressional hearings..."
Yep. Perfect time to get publicity on this. I hope most here join in.
Also...
Kucinich looks good to me. I sent him a contribution, with a note telling him my thoughts. He replied -- and I think it was he himself, and not just a staffer. In my note I mentioned the articles of impeachment that he submitted, and his proposed renewed 9-11-related hearings.
and spread/listen/bump truth music to support the artists and appeal to more people because music is universally appealing whether or not you like the songs:
My Group, Ann Arbor for Truth and Freedom is holding a massive anti-mainstream media conference up in Ann Arbor, Michigan sometime in September. I can release all the details as of yet as they need to finalized but we will be featuring some well known speakers and some prominent 9/11 Truthers in this mix. For more information about this event as it comes available please see http://www.annarbor911truth.com or subscribe to our newsletter by e-mailing aa911truth@gmail.com.
DISINFO ABOUT THE POST 9/11 PLANE CRASH IN QUEENS COMING UP NEXT ON THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL!!!! AT 6:30 OR 7:00 PM!!
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I know this isn't relevant to what anyone here has said, but since it's an open forum, I'm just wondering why nothing about Kevin Barrett has been mentioned in a really long time. Any word on his whereabouts, his success/failure with finding the alleged hijacker, etc.? Why the silence on this as of late?
Friday is the day of rest for Muslims. Saturday is the day of rest for Jews. Sunday is the day of rest for Christians. Monday we all get back to work...for 9/11 truth! This Monday is June 11th—another 11th of every month 9/11 truth day of action:
Vancouver Conference Coming Up, Barrie Zwicker on Truth Jihad Radio with Kevin Barrett Tonight
In the next two weeks Kevin Barrett will interview a long list of luminaries who will be appearing at the Vancouver 9/11 Truth Conference June 22-24 http://www.v911truth.org/conference2007.html
beginning with Barrie Zwicker, award-winning author of Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of 9/11. Kevin and Barrie will be on Truth Jihad Radio, 6-8 pm CT today, Saturday 6/9/07 at http://republicbroadcasting.org (Kevin will serve as emcee at the Vancouver 9/11 Conference...see you there!) Kevin’s upcoming radio guests include several Vancouver Conference speakers including: journalist Rowland Morgan, author of Flight 93 Revealed; novelist Hal Sisson, author of Modus Operandi 9/11, the only 9/11 book that’s almost as funny as Kevin’s own Truth Jihad; and Alfred Webre, author of the 9/11 Independent Prosecutor Act; and Connie Fogal, leader of the Canadian Action Party. Kevin’s other near-future radio guests include Richard Gage, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth; Sufi therapist Bill Whitehouse; and Gajendra Singh, former Indian ambassador to several nations, most recently Turkey. (And if that list isn’t enough for you, check out the Dyamic Duo show for last Monday, June 11th, when Kevin hosted an internationally famous rock star “mystery guest”...) For Kevin’s complete radio schedule, see http://mujca.com/airwaves.htm
Wag the DOG! Discontinuity of Government (DOG): An Idea Whose Time Has Come, and Then Some by Kevin Barrett
“...we need to institute clear, explicit Discontinuity of Government procedures spelling out exactly who, in the event of dire catastrophe, has the responsibility of hanging, shooting, gassing, and/or electrocuting Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz...” http://www.mujca.com/wagthedog.htm
Is This Heaven? by Mike Palecek http://www.mujca.com/palacek.htm Mike is a fine writer, a former political prisoner, sometime congressional candidate, a very brave and funny man and an all-around good guy. He recently gave the full 9/11 truth treatment to one of the deep-in-denial “alternative” radio hosts at Madison’s WORT-FM
June 8th Marks 40th Anniversary of USS Liberty Atrocity
It looks like Israel wasn’t the only, or even the main, culprit...more evidence that top US leaders cheerfully slaughter their own people in order to trigger the wars they want. http://www.mujca.com/ussliberty.htm
These are just a few of the articles posted at http://mujca.com Great new articles go up every few days!
Of Crazies, Neocons and the Enemy Within
by Manuel Valenzuela
Beginnings
An all too familiar and ominous echo is reverberating through the American landscape, once more blasted into the airwaves, and our minds, through the Ministry of Propaganda and its merry bunch of sycophants and stenographers. For yet another consecutive year since three monolithic towers were demolished, imploded and systemically brought down onto their own footprints in a catalyzing event unleashing a new American century, Americans are hearing the fiery rhetoric of imminent danger, a cocktail of fear, terror and warmongering fed our enemy-addicted culture, aimed both at stirring conflict with Iran and conditioning our minds into accepting the coming attack on yet another Muslim nation that poses no threat to the mighty Empire.
For the Enemy Within is hard at work concocting the trigger-happy bogeyman Americans are always too eager to declare war upon, and they are working overtime, using their control of the print, radio and television media, to condition us into accepting their version of reality. Yes, the dreaded neocons are once more circling this nation like vultures, flying high above the dying carcass of freedom and democracy, ready to plunge down to Earth for a mighty feast. The reviled neocons, that plague that refuses to die, that pestilence that seemingly only increases in number, that nest of rats that lingers in our midst, is once more contorting truth and creating reality, once more beating the drums of war in continuation of their war song. The Enemy Within is softening us up, readying our minds, preparing us into accepting yet one more blitzkrieg of evil, criminality and mass murder.
If you are not disgusted at how this species of human being has hijacked America, how it has condemned a million people to their premature death, how it has turned the beacon of freedom into the gulag of criminality, how it has made mass murder, torture, rape and pillage acceptable, how it has made an entire nation hateful, xenophobic and jingoistic, how it has molded and conditioned an army of American authoritarians, then you have not been paying attention. If you are not reviled at the existence of this nest of cockroaches, and how, even after all the damage it has done to America and the Middle East it nonetheless remains alive and thriving, seemingly – and bewilderingly – given prominence, authority and visibility in the media, in spite of its perpetual stream of lies, incompetence and subversion of freedom, in spite of getting everything about Iraq wrong, then you have not understood the real and severe threat of the neocon element to America, and the world.
Deeply entrenched within the corridors of power, infesting the Department of War, the Department of State, the Department of Justice, the Congress and the White House, and firmly, and clandestinely, embedded throughout the corporatist media, the Enemy Within, it can safely be said, has hijacked America, taking her hostage, occupying her capital, unleashing an incessant barrage of psychological warfare against the American people. Neocon nests, those putrid think tanks and lobbying offices where delusion and deception thrive, are clustered throughout Washington, having acronyms all too familiar to those still living in truth and reality.
The neocon infrastructure is powerful and massive, financed by moneyed and influential people, supported by modern day little Sparta, that American financed welfare state, that encircled Bantustan of imported European Zionists hunkered down among an ocean of native Arabs, possessing all necessary machinations to concoct enemies, the deceptions to create and unleash wars, the scruples to divide and conquer, and the media tools to brainwash and condition millions of human beings. The neocon machine prevents truth from ever seeing light, reality from ever surfacing, debate from ever existing and dissidents from ever having a voice. Instead, the neocon big lie is allowed to be repeated countless times, their deceptions and distortions are granted the aura of reality, and their propaganda is allowed to thrive, and spread.
The card carrying member of the neocon community has instant access to the airwaves, to op-ed articles and editorial opinion. The neocon talking points grace front page headlines and the opinions of news anchors and reporters. These same talking points are given preeminence and are never questioned or challenged. Neocon talking heads, representatives, hacks and lackeys have an always open invitation, in spite of the disaster they have created for America in Iraq, to appear on television news shows to spew their venomous rhetoric and talking points. Neocons are sent in droves, upon commands from on high, to appear in the always friendly corporatist media, as always spewing lies and deceptions when propaganda needs to be delivered, when fear needs to grow or when hatred needs to find new hosts.
Staying on message, the big lie is repeated over and over by this army of manipulators, attacking the airwaves, and thus our brains, in a constant stream of appearances, offering a multitude of faces, and voice tones. Treated as experts and opinion makers, when in fact they are but ignorant, ideological and delusional Machiavelli’s, this legion of propagandists is given free rein to saturate both televised and written media with their talking points. They appear as “guests” on news shows, making the rounds, regurgitating the message their group wants disseminated, never being challenged, always having a loudspeaker from which to reach the citizenry.
Without merit, these operatives are placed as opinion writers, reporters and editors in America’s most influential magazines and newspapers, free to manipulate and condition the minds of readers, free to shift the nation’s discourse in a particular direction. Hired and promoted, even after being wrong or delusional about nearly everything they have ever said or written about, these enemies of the people are nonetheless still given a voice and a bully pulpit from where to manipulate millions of readers.
Even when one thinks the neocons have been discredited thanks to the myriad number of pathetic mistakes they have made, even when one thinks their opinions have made them clowns, even when they are the laughingstock to those aware of their incompetence and delusion, they are still prominently displayed on our monitors, magazines and newspapers. Somehow, after so many errors, after so many disasters, they still remain to unleash more damage, shaping the nation’s opinion, setting its direction, pushing policy and as always, steering the nation towards war. This reality has not changed since 9/11, which should be a clear indication that the corporatist media is a full collaborator and partner in the neocon agenda. The Enemy Within is deeply entrenched in the corporatist media, and this should never be forgotten.
Playbook
Using the same recipe that launched the false Iraq WMD fear and terror marketing campaign, the same audacity that gave birth to the official and highly fictional 9/11 conspiracy theory, recycling the same cast of neocon characters for years warning us of the imminent and perpetual Arab danger, the warmongers in power are slowly, yet surely, prepping the American people into accepting a new act of preemptive, and illegal, aggression. For the Enemy Within knows that the American people will voluntarily remain ignorant of whatever enemy is chosen for them, never wanting to use reason and logic and critical thinking or common sense, always believing the lies and deceptions of the state and its vast propaganda machine, always eager to believe the myths and fictions spouted by criminals and murderers. Indeed, manipulating the American mind is like taking candy from a baby. At no time has the American mind been more fragile, ignorant and ripe for the picking.
Under ceaseless assault since the false flag operation of 9/11, the collective American mind is in deep psychosis, unable to escape the cloud of fear and terror thrust upon us by the neocon cabal in power. The catalyzing event of 9/11, methodically executed by warmongers and crazed zealots, was orchestrated with the intent of birthing a new American century, one in which the Pax Americana would thrive, unparalleled in power, reigning as the new Rome, unrivaled among the brotherhood of nations. It would merge the interests of little apartheid Sparta with those of America, forever cementing ties born through deception, for now the American people would also be confronted with the “evildoer” Arab horde, conveniently having as new enemy the same peoples whose oil we coveted and were addicted to, the same peoples whom little apartheid Sparta hated and detested.
The inside job of 9/11 would unleash a Long War, the so-called War on Terror, as much a fictional fantasy as any war concocted by Hollywood. Without the dreaded Soviet to scapegoat, to distract from internal strife, to use as excuse to enrich the military-industrial complex, a new enemy had to be manufactured, one that, unlike the Soviet Communist, was ambiguous, hidden, alien, an enigma, free of borders, national constraints and political handcuffs. Free to create any enemy out of thin air, the marketers of fear, for that is what the creators of enemies are, decided that the American populace needed a bogeyman unlike any ever devised, one free to roam beyond borders, lurking in dark alleys, independent of a nation that could, just like the Soviet Union, dissolve due to internal incompetence or political strife.
While the Soviet enemy remained known, even familiar to average Americans through European-like skin color and facial features, an appearance that seemed close to home, its culture and ethnicity unable to be dehumanized and made sub-human by the state’s propagandists, both essential elements in conditioning the populace into accepting destruction and murder of the enemy, the newly minted enemy, the Arab bogeyman, faced no such obstacles. Indeed, years of conditioning by Hollywood vilifying Arabs had jumpstarted the American hatred of the Islamic culture, even before 9/11, planting the seeds of hatred and xenophobia that would fully sprout on the day catalyzing events unleashed a new American century and Americans were introduced to the dreaded Arab terrorist.
The dreaded Arab bogeyman, concocted as terrorist through years of state sponsored propaganda and manipulation, only fed into the historical hatred of people of color by xenophobic majorities. The decimation of tens of millions of Native Americans, their condemnation into hellholes called reservations, the prolonged enslavement of Africans, the decimation of Filipinos, Koreans and Vietnamese in Asia, the wars of aggression and senseless mass murder against Latin Americans spanning decades, the still prevalent racism against African Americans and Latinos, condemning most to lifelong imprisonment and abandonment in urban ghettos, and the recent jingoism and bigotry exhibited against Hispanic immigrants – nothing more than America’s new slave class – by a new generation of No Nothings are but a few examples of a time honored tradition of indifference, racism and hatred of peoples not possessing the characteristics of European lineage, of white Anglo-Saxon tradition. The Arab culture, then, would be treated no different.
A new scapegoat had been chosen, one alien and fear-inducing, for fear of the unknown is the greatest fear in the human condition. All that was needed to foment the fusion of alien dark skinned Arab with terrorism in the minds of the people would be a catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor, that would cement a hatred and anger never before seen on American shores, one that would blind and make fearful entire segments of the population. Of course the chosen patsies would perform the tasks assigned to them, oblivious to the eternal fame they would garner. Molded and nurtured, observed and guided, these patsies would become the face of evil incarnate, with the modern day Emmanuel Goldstein, Osama bin Laden, striking fear and terror in the minds of Americans.
It would be the events of 9/11 that would firmly, and permanently, transfix Al-Qaeda into the imaginations of 300 million Americans, striking fear and a Pavlovian induced schizophrenia into the populace with every pronouncement of its title. Blinded by fear, made devoid of reason and logic through the manipulations of terror, the American people would follow lies and deceptions without question; they would obey and become subservient to the dictates of the neocon ideology; they would take as truth and reality the fictions and charades offered by the state and the corporatist media.
It would be 9/11 that would forever alter the course of American history, along with the psyches of her people, becoming an untouchable, almost religious myth whose original story was sacrosanct, an untouchable story no matter how unrealistic it was. Of course, 9/11 became a most fortuitous event to several entities, benefiting, first and foremost, the military-industrial-energy complex, desperately in search of an enemy and a region to exploit, as well as those seeking American hegemony around the globe, and fitting perfectly with the master plans of the Likudnik neocons and their Project for a New American Century. Thanks to 9/11, America had her new enemy, one evolved to suit the best interests of America’s warmongering class, one designed as a failsafe entity that could be counted on, in relative confidence, for a perpetual stream of conflict, war, destruction, hegemony, profit and power.
Al-Qaeda, born and reared by America’s clandestine services, having evolved from Afghan freedom fighters battling the Soviet Union to evil incarnate after 9/11, a product of ceaseless marketing and constant manipulation of fragile and vulnerable psyches, would be the face of America’s new enemy, one without borders, politicians, standing armies and capitals, a bogeyman hidden and secretive, free to appear anywhere on the planet, alien and ambiguous, a mole popping up exactly where it was, and is, needed most. In short, al-Qaeda is the perfect enemy for America, capable of sprouting like a weed wherever and whenever America needed a place to attack, invade, conquer and pillage. Used as the perfect excuse by which to attack sovereign nations, labeling fighters or insurgents Al-Qaeda acts both as cover for the advancement of Empire and as the marketing ploy used to smear and label legitimate peoples’ movements fighting the criminality of the Empire itself.
When marketed to the American people by the propaganda of the state and the corporatist media, resistance fighters such as those in Iraq struggling to rid their lands and homes of the imperial overreach of the Empire become sub-human enemies whose death is accepted and indeed sought by the citizenry. When the Pavlovian term “Al-Qaeda” is ushered, all semblance of common sense and reason is lost upon the populace of the Empire, who has been trained to fear and hate when the utterance of the evildoers is mentioned. Designed to dehumanize valid resistance and freedom movements, the people of the Empire will thus only see terrorists and criminality when reality offers a different portrait. Such is the power of the label Al-Qaeda that it immediately makes terrorists of those fighting the evil and terrorism of the Empire itself. It validates and indeed obscures the high levels of state sponsored terrorism of the Empire. Such is the genius of those who concoct enemies for a living.
Make no mistake, 9/11 was a declaration of war upon the American people by the Enemy Within, acting as the first strike in a psychological war aimed at our emotions. A new Pearl Harbor was needed to unleash invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan and eventually Iran, opening up new imperial hegemony. Freedoms and rights had to be eviscerated, the better to control the citizenry, the better to take advantage of technological innovations that would facilitate an omnipresent police state. Solidarity with little Sparta had to be increased, both to take worldwide pressure off its Nazi like treatment of Palestinians and to join at the hip two nations that were now seen to fight the same fight. Only two powers could dominate the Middle East, and with America establishing a permanent presence, with its military fomenting civil war between the region’s Sunni and Shia, following the old adage of divide and conquer, little Sparta could become the preeminent power in the region, its rivals destroyed and weakened, its threats curtailed and its hegemony growing.
Carefully planned and orchestrated, 9/11 and its myth, most of which was disseminated in the hours after the tragic events, with pieces of the still smoldering puzzle miraculously being put together at the speed of light, was designed as the new Pearl Harbor needed to militarize the citizenry into supporting the invasions and occupations of Middle East nations. In that sense, 9/11 was an event staged specifically to manipulate the emotions and psychology of the American people in the expectation that we would march lock step with the warmongering aspirations of the state. Its tragedy was calculated more as a shock to the psyche than as an act of war; its horrors were needed to act as conduit between calls for revenge, hatred of the Muslim world, and acquiescence to pre-9/11 invasion plans.
We the People were the targets on that day, not the state and certainly not our elected leaders. It was We the People that were the intended victims, not our freedoms or our way of life, not our happiness nor our comfortable lifestyles. Our minds were the ultimate prize, which is why the towers had to be demolished in such violent fashion, why the controlled demolitions were covered from every conceivable angle, to be played and replayed countless times, until they were seared into our memory, into our psyche, so that we would forever be victims of fear and terror manipulations, so that we would forever acknowledge and assist the military-industrial-energy complex in its quest for global hegemony.
For the neocons, two enormous towers and 3,000 human beings were an easy sacrifice compared to the dividends the Project for the New American Century would get in return. Two towers in a metropolis full of skyscrapers, along with 3,000 Americans out of 300 million, were simply the collateral damage needed to fulfill Rebuilding America’s Defenses. Thus, a New Pearl Harbor took place on 9/11, ushering in a new American Century, just as the neocons had predicted, just as they had fortuitously envisioned. Using the power of the corporatist media and its battalions of propagandists, the psychological war against the American people, with 9/11 as catalyst, was only beginning.
In the years that followed the manipulation of emotions to extract long-sought rewards and objectives would intensify, as would the subversion of freedoms, rights and liberties in the name of promising security to fragile and maimed American psyches. America’s real enemy, that which resides within, was about to unleash a barrage of fear and terror mongering the likes of which no people have ever encountered, in furtherance of the war against the American people, a war unlike any other, a war for our minds and psychology, against the very freedoms, rights and democracy we so cherish. For what manufactured terrorists could never take away, homegrown terrorists were slowly, yet surely, making extinct.
Cabal of Criminality
Democracy and freedom has never been of much importance to the neocon vultures, even as they spew these virtues as sacred dogma. Of course, what neocons say, and what they do, are almost always at odds with each other. They are experts at extolling the virtues of the grand lie, of lying pathologically to the people for the people’s supposed own good. Government secrecy is a hallmark of the neocons, a reality the world has seen since 2001. Keeping secrets and telling a constant stream of lies has defined the neocon administration of George W. Bush.
It is interesting that while they talk of democracy and freedom, they try to destroy both, abroad and at home. These vermin stand for Machiavelli-style rule, being comforted more by authoritarian governance than pure democracy. Indeed, democracy is anathema to their ideology, for they do not believe the masses can correctly govern themselves. Therefore, leaders possessing dictatorial powers must be created, the better to serve the interests of the neocon belief system. In fact, the stolen election of 2000, in the state of Florida, was a direct consequence of neocon planning and implementation, the first domino to fall in pursuit of their new American century. The ascension of Bush to the throne, a man who had promised them Iraq on a silver platter if elected, was of paramount importance. He was also a willing participant and firm believer in Rebuilding America’s Defenses. Once immediately safely selected to the throne, in fact, he began implementing its highly militarized and unilateral policies.
Knowing the final outcome, and triumph, of the 2000 election would inevitably come down to Florida, all machinations needed to steal the election were implemented, showcasing a disregard for the will of the people and democracy in pursuit of absolute power. Florida 2000 was the catalyst the neocons needed to begin altering the face of American governance and her role in the world. Everything that was to come hinged on the election in Florida, hence the audacity and the purposefulness seen in completely subverting American democracy. One day, it will be Florida 2000, along with 9/11, that will be studied, analyzed and seen for the history altering event that it was, becoming recognized as the first salvo in a war against the American people, the key that unlocked the gates of Hades upon the world. Without Florida 2000, history, and 21st century reality, would have perhaps never become familiar with the neocons and their demented and delusional ideology.
Thrust into power in 2001, an administration saturated with neocons in the Departments of War, Justice, State and the White House set about to alter the system of checks and balances and to begin implementing, step by militarized step, the blueprint called Rebuilding America’s Defenses. Once deeply ensconced inside the halls of power, once comfortable with the methods and systems of governance, once confident in their control and mastery over the state’s apparatus, once they had fully hijacked the government of the United States of America, they could finally implement the catalyzing event they so desperately wanted, and needed.
With their dirty and criminal hands at the helm of every strategic department and office, especially within the Department of War and the Office of the Vice President, a new Pearl Harbor was ready to be born, conceived through distracting war games and drills, allowed to breathe life through systematic planning and confusion. Possessing absolute power, becoming the hand guiding the American puppet, with the corporatist media as collaborators, the cabal of criminality declared war upon every American. On September 11, 2001, America’s worst and most heinous crime was perpetrated, along with her greatest criminal cover up. The 9/11 Commission Report would only cement the cover up, with yet one more neocon assigned to make sure a whitewash occurred.
After 9/11 the nest of vultures embedded in the Pentagon and the Office of the Vice President began manufacturing war, first in Afghanistan and later, much more famously, in Iraq. Today it is widely known the severity by which the Office of Special Plans manufactured and devised the lies that led to war, piping only information that would push the neocon agenda directly to the top, thereby bypassing career analysts and experts. Today it is widely known the lies told repeatedly to guide us into war, with warnings of mushroom clouds and WMD. That the neocon establishment led us into a war of choice, based on lies, deceptions and delusions, is not in question. Indeed, these architects of the Iraq War should never be allowed to forget that they involved America in the greatest strategic disaster in her history.
That the neocon establishment lied us into an immoral and illegal preemptive war, based on lies and fictions they knew to be false, in order to secure Empire’s petroleum and beachhead, not to mention Israel’s security, demands that these individuals be seen for what they really are: war criminals, surely guilty of crimes against humanity, fully responsible for the death of one million Iraqis, thousands of Afghanis, and 6,500 Americans. War criminals tried since World War II have been sentenced to death on far less heinous and egregious crimes.
To say the neocons should be sitting at The Hague, rotting away their existence, contemplating their crimes in perpetuity, locked away for centuries so they can no longer inflict carnage and evil on our world, is an understatement. These individuals, this cabal of criminality, those visible and clandestine in government, business and the media, those responsible for 9/11 and the Iraq War, from the architects to the propagandists, should be facing war crime charges in both New York City and Baghdad, forced to face trial for the human wickedness they have engendered.
In a more perfect world, they would be. In this world, unfortunately, they are promoted, rewarded, saluted and allowed to ride into the sunset, free to corrupt young minds, continue living in freedom, profiteering from their opinions and wreaking havoc upon the peoples of Earth. In a more perfect world, one different than the one we presently inhabit, there would be justice for all those murdered and maimed in pursuit of blatant ignorance, psychotic delusion and deranged ideology.
Project Iran
Instead, the terrorists living among us, the elements we call neocons, with their vast control of American government and media, and by consequence control over our lives, continue expanding their power and their pursuit of further decadence. Not content to dwell as history’s greatest fools, they maintain a course of further escalation in Iraq, still thinking possible a victory that will never arrive and a delusion that will never become reality. Delusion and denial being a neocon characteristic, they think further military action, this time against Iran, will salvage victory from the throes of defeat, giving America the birth pangs of triumph from the calamity of debacle and quagmire.
Enraptured by their longtime hatred of Iran and its supposed threat to Israeli hegemony, the neocon element has once more gone on a fairy tale adventure, this time by trying to get America to do Israel’s bidding. The same playbook once used to cajole us into the Iraq debacle has been taken out of the closet, wiped free of dust, and implemented throughout the neocon world. This time, however, the neocon infestation is less prevalent in government, so they must resort to their nests in think tanks and lobbying offices, along with their vast power in the corporatist media, to sell, convince, connive and foment a war between Iran and America. With so many people in government aware of their constant malfeasance, however, the road to warmonger heaven has been a bit more difficult.
This explains why the corporatist media, doing the bidding of Israeli interests, has become a major player in the Iran propaganda campaign. Without the Office of Special Plans, with many military personnel aware of the techniques of the “crazies”, with deeper scrutiny by the public and America’s intelligence agencies, and with many officials aware of the consequences of a war with Iran, the neocons have had to bombard the airwaves with the lies, deceptions and manipulations needed to once again bamboozle the Empire into a war of choice.
It is from inside the corporatist media, with help from neocon think tanks and Israeli interests, where the propaganda is in full swing, where neocons are given an open microphone, a camera to look at, and where the interests of the state of Israel are given credence. It is from the inner doings of the corporatist media where war with Iran is being conditioned into our minds, for the Enemy Within knows it has less than two years left to destroy its hegemonic rival.
Sensing desperation that Iran has yet to be attacked, thanks in large measure to the disaster unfolding in Iraq, the neocons may yet resort to desperate measures, perhaps even another false flag operation blamed on Al-Qaeda, working for Iran, which would again become a catalyzing event unfolding yet another new Pearl Harbor. When dealing with psychotics of this nature, nothing should be discounted, and nothing should be left to chance.
As always emanating from the mouths of America’s most vile criminal element and terrorists extraordinaire, better known as the neoconservatives, the false alarms and war trumpets now being heard are part of a careful and methodical campaign of psychological warfare against the American people. A continuance of the psychological operation launched against America on 9/11, that catalyzing event granting New Pearl Harbors life and a New American Century sustenance, the latest act of manipulation is designed to make evildoers of the Iranian people, turning Iran into a scapegoat for the disaster unfolding in Iraq.
Such is the debacle in Iraq, created by the delusions, complete ignorance and gross incompetence of the neocons that, since American exceptionalism prevents America from ever making mistakes, being outwitted or admitting defeat, an easy scapegoat must be fomented to take the blame for the greatest strategic disaster in American foreign policy. Enter the puppet Iraq government and Iran, two easy targets offered up as the sacrificial lamb to a perpetually ignorant, delusional and completely devolving populace that would much sooner believe outside forces were to blame for the inevitable defeat than realize that the myths of American grandeur are nothing but the fairy tale propaganda of a corporatist state.
Almost on a daily basis, this group of terrorists, for no other word can best describe the neocons, is systematically cementing into the American conscious the idea of attacking and bombing Iran, a nation that poses no military threat to America, under the rubric of terrorism, mushroom clouds and Hitler-like evil, thereby extending forward a fictional war on terror along with an already disastrous debacle in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Once more a Muslim nation is about to be attacked, as always following the blueprint of the neocon Mein Kampf, Rebuilding America’s Defenses. More and more Iran is being blamed for arming the Iraqi – and now Afghan – resistance, training its fighters and financing its activities. That no proof has yet to appear, even among a barrage of accusations, should give one pause as to the validity of such asinine propaganda and should leave no doubt in whose hands the corporatist media lies.
For the neocons, a group of Christian and Jewish Zionists, most with strong ties to the Israeli right-wing Likud Party, embedded throughout the halls of governance, business and the corporatist media, hate Persians, Arabs and Muslims with a passion only seen in xenophobic psychopaths. Their contempt for the peoples of the Middle East has become apparent in their actions and writings, their beliefs and hypocrisy, and in their defense of the Nazi-like treatment of Arabs by apartheid Israel, . It is this hatred that they hope to embed into America’s citizenry, enough that we think of Arabs as subhuman animals, and is therefore the reason for the saturation of the airwaves with anti-Arab, Persian and Muslim propaganda, designed to engender hatred and feelings of xenophobia against the non-European people of the Middle East. This manipulation, of course, has not relented since the immediate aftermath of 9/11.
These architects of New Pearl Harbors, fictional wars on terror and the Iraq War, names all too familiar within the reality of those who chose to pay attention and stay informed, have set their targets on another Islamic nation, now that Iraq is in disarray, as always pursuing the interests both of the so-called New American Century as well as those of Mother Israel. On both sides of the imaginary and nonexistent aisle, inside the bowels of political duopoly and the two headed hydra, where political prostitutes are allowed to roam free, as always paying homage to the hand that rocks the cradle, the shrieks of war are therefore getting louder, for the sugar daddy to Washington’s politicians has arrived to collect on dues and debt once paid.
From these charlatans and miscreants we somehow always chose to elect the war cries and the drums of war are growing in strength, for the time of preemptive criminality is almost upon us. For they have been given their marching orders from on high, where the high priests of war convene, where criminals and murderers congregate, and slowly their cohorts in the media are conditioning America to the inevitability of continuing war crimes and crimes upon humanity on Muslim lands.
Iran has been selected for destruction, becoming the prize of prizes, the ultimate reward in pursuit of a Project for a New American Century. The cries desperate for an attack on Iran are palpable, coming from all neocon nests and perching trees. The call to use nuclear weapons against the Persian state is also resounding loudly, becoming both an ominous declaration of neocon intentions and a warning to the world entire of ignoring and not halting the delusional cries of the crazies.
As expected, and predicted, the delusional Machiavelli’s we know as the neocons have increased their level of vitriol against Iran, in conjunction both with the coordinated propaganda campaign begun by their masters in Tel Aviv as well as through the perpetual dissemination of such manipulations by their stenographers and lackeys in the corporatist media. For the days are fast approaching, and all preparations must be made, before those living in delusion unleash their latest, and greatest, military blunder.
Ending the Occupation of America
We in America must be vigilant, for a poisonous snake cornered is at its most dangerous. Time is running out on the neocon element, which, sensing desperation, and the ticking sound of time, might resort to reenacting its greatest triumph, the manufacturing of new Pearl Harbors on American soil, sacrificing American lives in pursuit of Israeli interests, making thousands of citizens the collateral damage needed to attack Iran.
The Enemy Within lives among us, occupying our capital, owning our elected officials, saturating our airwaves, manipulating our minds, polluting our society. The Enemy Within is the only entity we must fear, for it is psychotic and delusional, criminal and devoid of scruples, ready at a moment’s notice to kill in the name of a new American Century, in the name of A Clean Break. The Enemy Within is our greatest threat, both to life and freedom, to limb and democracy, lingering in our midst, two faced and corrupt, pursuing the interests of militarization and those of little Sparta, trying to ensure hegemony for the Zionist ghetto, trying to establish proxy wars fought by the Empire in the interests of the dog’s tail.
The Enemy Within is the terrorist organization we must fear most, and fight against, declaring our own war on terror, our own fight against extremism and criminality. Our nation has been hijacked, dispossessed of its reputation and its treasure, her sons and daughters dying in the interests of corporatism and Empire, maimed due to delusion and ego. America lives under occupation, our freedoms and rights and liberties being made extinct by Machiavelli pretenders. A welfare state in the Middle East controls our elected officials, dictating policy that directly contradicts our own interests.
We are being transformed by the tools of the neocon element into a nation of xenophobic bigots, slowly being bred to hate scapegoats and concocted enemies. Our corporatist media has become the Department of Propaganda, a Ministry of Truth where reality is manufactured and truth sequestered, hidden in the deep dark recesses of censured stories and stifled dissent. Only the propaganda beneficial to the Enemy Within is allowed to grace our monitors and our newspapers; only the stories and individuals pushing for war are ever seen or heard. America is occupied, her capital hijacked by a malevolent cabal of criminality, caring only to perpetuate a war against the Arab world through action and reaction, eye for an eye, and inevitable blowback.
It is up to Americans, in valid resistance to authoritarian tendencies, to stop the crazies from unleashing hell on Iran and the Middle East. It is up to us to stop them before another Pearl Harbor strikes one of our cities, killing hundreds or thousands of our brothers and sisters. It is up to us, true patriots of the republic, to finally expel the occupiers from our land, thereby restoring a nation that has much to offer the world, perhaps finally becoming a beacon of light upon a city on a hill, surpassing even the myths of American state-sponsored propaganda. The real war on terror must begin, for the neocon terrorists must be thrown in the gulag they have created for the world.
If you are repulsed with the neocon plague afflicting our country, if you are tired of the warmongering and the manipulations, of the lies and profiteering, of elected representatives listening to foreign agents and not native citizens, if you are ready to put Americans’ interest first, second and third, and those of little welfare state Sparta in the dustbin of history, then get ready to confront the occupiers and hijackers, never letting them rest, never letting them speak or be seen publicly without being confronted with a litany of their crimes.
If the courts will not try them, then we must. If the media will not expose them, then we will. If the state will not prosecute them, then we should. If their peers will not shame them, then we most definitely will. Karma and justice should follow these crazies and criminals wherever they go, wherever they appear. If America no longer suits them thanks to our actions, then they are welcome to move elsewhere. We do not want them in our nation anymore. They are not welcome, for they have brought nothing but war, death, destruction, fear, terror, decadence and manipulations.
Peaceful resistance must commence, the occupation of America must end, the neocon reign must be extinguished and the crazies roaming our streets must never be allowed to hijack our country again.
Manuel Valenzuela is a social critic, commentator, Internet essayist and author of Echoes in the Wind, a novel now published by Authorhouse.com. His essays appear regularly at various alternative news websites from around the globe. Mr. Valenzuela welcomes comments and can be reached at manuel [at] valenzuelas [dot] net He encourages readers to surf the collection of over 100 essays he has written which can be found visiting his archives and by searching the Internet. His next book, Beyond the Smoking Mirror: Reflections on America and Humanity, a collection of his essays, will be published in early 2007.
About four months ago, I saw a google video of some media interviews conducted on 911, right by the towers. The narrator claimed that the behaviour of the interviewees looked guilty, almost as if they had a cover story pre-planned. The interviewees were in white trucks. I've been looking on the web since but cant find it
Anyone else remember this video?? Anyone know what it was called?? Anyone know where to find it now??
During the Q&A session of Richard Gage's presentation on the collapse of the WTC, a woman mentions a clip from the footage of Jules and Naudet where the police captain or someone else in a similar position is strangely staring at the photographer as the towers are attacked by one of the planes -- or something like that. Does anyone know what clip she's referring to?
The crew from the firehouse goes out to investigate a gas leak (which just happens to put them in the BEST possible place to get footage of the North Tower impact.) It's Lieutenant (?) Joseph Pfeifer who is looking at the camera while other heads are swiveling toward the noise of the plane. Frankly, I think he might just be having a harder time than the others with pinning down the direction of the source of the noise -- I'm not sold on the "deliberately looking away" argument. However, I highly recommend watching the Naudet Brothers' film with a copy of the serendipity article on the funny coincidences in front of you and the remote control in hand.
Assaf Uni and Amiram Barkat
Haaretz
Thursday June 14, 2007
The leader of Britain's Conservative party, David Cameron, called himself a "Zionist" Tuesday as he slammed a British initiative for an academic boycott against Israel.
Cameron, responding to questions at the annual luncheon of Conservative Friends of Israel, said the academic boycott was completely uncalled for, and that attacks against Israel often slid into anti-Semitism.
"If by Zionist you mean that the Jews have the right to a homeland in Israel and the right to a country then I am a Zionist," the Tory leader said, adding that support for Israel is "in the DNA" of members of his party.
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I have to say, the last part with 9/11 first responders taking the trip to Cuba was just heartbreaking.
One woman needed inhalers that cost $120 in the US, and in Cuba the cost five cents. FIVE CENTS.
Even though Im not a very much a fan of Michael Moore, Id say he certainly deserves props for this. The first responder issue, after dipping its toes into the mainstream on the View, is about to explode into public consciousness.
http://www.justin.tv/parrisharris/2512 Only need to watch the first minute and a half of the clip. (Tip: She's wearing red.) Pretty funny. From today's dedication of her star on Hollywood Blvd. Anyone know how to edit / embed this video? Save for posterity?
Barbara Walters was honored with a star on Hollywood Blvd. today, June 14, 2007. Her co-hosts from The View, Elisabeth Hasselbeck and Joy Behar were there, and I wanted to make sure that Rosie O'Donnell made an appearance also. I had a very short notice on this one. I put out the call and I packed up a few Rosie the Riveter, 9/11 Truth Now signs and headed off to the Kodak Theatre. It didn't look like I was going to have a partner to possibly take video.
I got there in time to get right up to the barricades, and Johnny Grant, Honorary Mayor of Hollywood, said the ceremony would start promptly at 11:30, so I kept my sign down until then. I watched as alot of high profile guests arrived. Chief of Police, William J. Bratton, City Council members Tom LaBonge and Eric Garcetti. Then the celebs started to show. Joy and Elisabeth, Exec. Producer of The View, Bill Geddes, even former CEO of Disney, Michael Eisner. Also in attendance were Kathy and Nicky Hilton and Rob Reiner. Probably many others, including a soap star that I did not recognize.
When Barbara Walters entered the pen, I raised my Rosie sign, turning it from time to time to the 9/11 Truth Now side. Every one of these people got a good look at it throughout the ceremony, and it should have been on camera a few times too. I was relieved that Chief Bratton did not send someone over to snatch it from me. The funniest thing was the reactions from The View stars, Elisabeth and Joy. Elisabeth looked at the Rosie graphic several times and got a good laugh out of it. Joy smiled too, but I think they were both afraid of getting too close and having their pictures taken with that in the background.
Before the actual ceremony started, I was joined by Gustavo from World Can't Wait, and I gave him a couple signs to hold. When it was about over, the crowd had thinned out and Barbara was the last to leave with her entourage. I thought she might come over to sign some autographs, so I moved a little closer, and sure enough, she walked right over to me, before all the photogs crowded around. I put my Rosie sign out to where she could sign it easily, but one of her assistants apparently whispered to her, not to sign it. So, I asked her: Barbara, are you going to do an investigative report about what really happened on 9/11 and Bldg. 7? She did not answer the question and was hurried away (you can see her in red).
I had done a little interview about 9/11 earlier with fashion reporter Parris Harris, and I did not realize until I go home that he had recorded the Babawawa encounter.
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
ok, I don't know if this is a crazy idea, but it might work:
Roughly, you make a huge sign in fabric with your message (911 was an inside job), then you attach the sides to helium balloons, and let it go. It should now fly all over the country. Maybe you need something to weigh it down a bit so it doesn't fly too high, but of course it shouldn't be dangerous to anyone if it falls down..
You must admit, if it worked it would be freakin' great! They would have to send the airforce in to get it down, I hope you get the irony.
I pass this one over to the more creative heads around here..
One of my truther friends sent me this as a joke. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU While I watched it I wondered what if JFKjr (the hunk) hadn't been murdered and ran for president? Catch my drift?
JFK, RFK, MLK, John Lennon, Lady Di, JFK Jr. ...All victims of "lone nuts" or vehicular tragedy. Sure. All of the most hope inspiring, positive, free thinkers of the last 50 years, cut down in their youth. Coincidence. Right.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Excellent New Election Theft Piece
Big Lies make little lies like stolen elections so much easier to sell. This new report by fellow truthseeker Michael Collins lays out the 2004 stolen election in black & white for the layman. Please check it out and pass it around:
Election 2004: The Urban Legend
see these movies
Read project day lily, learn how a group of criminals spread the mycoplasma bacteria, Dr. nicolson, A respected scientist had contacts within the pentagon that revealed how this weapon was tested on the american people. This is the cause of every chronic illness, CFS, AIDS etc. Animals injected with this die, when injected with hiv nothing happens. http://www.projectdaylily.com/ Read the first chapter for free, it will scare the hell out of you!
See the film hiv fact or fraud too see how corrupt the aids establishment has gotten
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064591712431946916
interesting post
AIDS isn't caused by HIV, which is a harmless retrovirus. See Peter Duesberg's book "Inventing the AIDS virus" for a fascinating read on how multiple forces converged to magnify an unsupported hypothesis (HIV cases AIDS) into dogma. HIV is not even sexually transmitted. Here is a shorter read on the subject:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller18.html
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I have been researching this for a while.
I thought it was all bunk before i saw that film hiv fact or fraud. All other viruses cause disease in animals, except hiv. Hiv is only present in one of every 1000 t cells. Mycoplasma incognitus kills all animals infected. The army has a patent called "pathenogenic Mycoplasma" When Dr. Nicolson found this microbe in the gulf war veterans, chronic fatigue syndrome/ AIDS armed personall from the defense dept. visited him and threatened him to stop his research. His boss was shot 5 times in the head when they were going to blow the whistle on illegal testing at the md cancer center in texas.
Its not a coincidence that the army's leading scientist dr. shyh ching lo has published much on how this novel strain of mycoplasma is the cause of most diseases. Every animal he injected it with died, and he found it in sick patients with aids/cfs and not in healthy controls. That book project day lily is based on confidential sources and is true, if you read it its very scary, its like the movie 12 monkeys. www.projectdaylily.com
Not everything is a conspiracy
Hi,
been a long time lurker here, its the site I always check first in the morning. But, I signed on specifically to respond to this because I believe this thread is dangerous to the 9/11 Truth community. Not everything is a conspiracy, HIV does cause AIDS, and associating this nonsense with 9/11 Truth, I believe, can only cause damage. Having this kind of discussion in any way linked to 9/11 Truth simply makes it easier for people to use the "tin foil hat" "argument".
I am a molecular biologist, I know a thing or two about viruses, including HIV, and this thread already contains numerous lies/ errors/ myths. HIV does cause AIDS, the evidence is overwhelming. I strongly believe that there should always be a contrary opinion on any scientific issue, Peter Deusberg offers this within the HIV community, but he is not correct. If he believes it is a "harmless retrovirus" then why hasn't he offered to be injected with it himself?
Contrary to what has been posted above, not every virus that causes illness in humans will cause the same disease in other animals, and vice versa, most viruses have very stringent host specificities.
Furthermore, it has been shown that if you bypass the barrier for infection and replication of HIV in mouse cells (by introducing the virus DNA artificially by transgenics), the virus does produce an AIDS-like disease in mice.
I have pasted the abstract and reference citation for this paper below if you are interested. But this is just one tiny study amongst an enormous volume of evidence that HIV does cause human immunodeficiancy syndrome.
There is a LOT of disinformation about there about HIV/AIDS on the internet. I find it troublesome that the popularity of the MYTH that HIV is a "harmless retrovirus" on the internet is expanding in parallel with 9/11 Truth. I've wondered whether this is part of a disinfo campaign.
Very important, search for your information regarding HIV/AIDS (or any disease, including that mycoplasma thing, which is not a bacteria by the way) from peer reviewed sources, NOT videos, web sites, newspaper articles. There are plenty of journals in Virology that would climb over each other to publish evidence that HIV was merely a "harmless retrovirus".
Use PUB MED to search for life science-related information, not Google. If you are interested in reading a particular article you find on a Pub Med search, but can't access it (most Medical Journals are not open Access YET), please email me (can that be done on this site? I'm not sure, I just registered), I will be happy to try and get it for you.
Nef harbors a major determinant of pathogenicity for an AIDS-like disease induced by HIV-1 in transgenic mice.
Hanna Z, Kay DG, Rebai N, Guimond A, Jothy S, Jolicoeur P.
Clinical Research Institute of Montreal, Department of Medicine, Université de Montréal, Quebec, Canada.
Transgenic (Tg) mice expressing the complete coding sequences of HIV-1 in CD4+ T cells and in cells of the macrophage/dendritic lineages develop severe AIDS-like pathologies: failure to thrive/weight loss, diarrhea, wasting, premature death, thymus atrophy, loss of CD4+ T cells, interstitial pneumonitis, and tubulo-interstitial nephritis. The generation of Tg mice expressing selected HIV-1 gene(s) revealed that nef harbors a major disease determinant. The latency and progression (fast/slow) of the disease were strongly correlated with the levels of Tg expression. Nef-expressing Tg thymocytes were activated and alpha-CD3 hyperresponsive with respect to tyrosine phosphorylation of several substrates, including LAT and MAPK. The similarity of this mouse model to human AIDS, particularly pediatric AIDS, suggests that Nef may play a critical role in human AIDS, independently of its role in virus replication.
Cell. 1998 Oct 16;95(2):163-75
from reading the Duesberg book and other sources
I can state the following:
1) The pathogenesis of HIV -- whether and how it leads to AIDS -- has never been demonstrated empirically; most troubling is that the data violate all three of Koch's postulates... [taken from pps. 174-186]
2) Postulate #1:The microbe must be found in all cases of the disease. The problem is no study has ever established the necessary presence of HIV in patients or in the diseased tissue in particular; moreover, there are thousands of people with AIDS-defining diseases who do not test positive for HIV. (The CDC invented a new label for such cases, idiopathic CD4 lymphocytopenia.)
3) Postulate #2: The microbe must be isolated from the host and grown in pure culture. HIV has never been purified from any one patient in the usual way; the virus has appeared in the lab only after taking millions of white blood cells from an HIV positive person and reactivating the virus by shocking the cells into awakening the dormant HIV. Even then, the reactivated HIV doesnt necessarily infect the remaining cells in the culture, so the virus is hard to maintain in lab cultures.
4) Postulate #3:The purified germ must cause the disease again in another host. Injecting blood from AIDS patients into closely related species, such as chimpanzees, has failed to induce AIDS, even after 10 plus years (since 1984). Accidental or natural HIV infection of humans (e.g., healthcare workers, blood transfusion recipients) has also failed to yield a later AIDS diagnosis, in the absence of AIDS "treatment" in the form of prescription medication. Finally, where is the vaccine for HIV that would prevent AIDS? Vaccines work by tricking the body into producing antibodies to the virus to prevent reinfection. HIV positive individuals already have antibodies to the virus, so of course, logically, that dormant virus cannot lead to later disease, making a vaccine moot.
5) There is no precedent for a "slow virus" that invades (causing few if any symptoms upon initial infection), lies dormant for long periods of time to later cause serious illness in the absence of reactivation of the virus.
6) There are so-called long-term survivors who are HIV positive but never develop AIDS (and they don't do recreational drugs or take the prescribed treatment).
7) The HIV test checks for the presence of antibodies, which at best (because of the issue of cross-reactions) indicate that the person has been previously exposed to the virus. It says nothing about current infection. Moreover, a strong antibody response normally means immunity to the virus.
8) HIV tests are notoriously unreliable, and people can get falsely positive outcomes for lots of reasons (e.g., being pregnant, having the flu or a flu shot).
9) Not all viruses cause disease, and some, like HIV, are harmless passenger viruses that show up in epidemiological studies as correlated with AIDS.
10) Accordingly, longitudinal studies have documented lowered white-blood cell counts precede HIV infection, which seems to preclude a causal role for HIV in suppressing immune functioning.
11) No study has established the sexual transmissibility of HIV; statistically, it takes, on average, more than 1,000 instances of sexual intercourse with an HIV positive person to contract HIV (or 250,000 instances of intercourse with people whose HIV status is not known). (These statistics are drawn from Padian's 1997 study of female sexual partners of male HIV positive hemophiliacs; zero instances of transmission were found, despite a lot of unsafe sex. Furthermore, the direction of female-to-male transmission is estimated to be even greater--about 1 in 10,000.) Most STDs, like gonorrhea or syphilis, are transmitted at a rate of 1 in 2. Most STDs quickly spread to both genders, and are rampant among teenagers; neither is the case with HIV.
12) In the US and Europe, AIDS cases are overwhelmingly concentrated in a few high-risk groups (gay men with a history of heavy drug use, intravenous drug users, chronic users of drugs that were not injected, babies of hard-core drug using women, and hemophiliacs who have taken unpurified blood clotting factor and/or who have taken AZT); if AIDS were infectious, then it would be distributed more evenly without regard to demographic factors.
13) AIDS diseases tend to be specific to various high-risk groups. For example, gay men (who tend to use nitrate inhalants) overwhelmingly developed pulmonary Kaposi's sarcoma; cocaine users tend to get pneumonia; heroin users tend to get tuberculosis; hemophiliacs taking unpurified blood clotting factor tend to get pneumonia; "AIDS" diseases in Africa tend to be the same diseases that are common to the region (TB, malaria, 'Slim'disease, a synonym for 'wasting' which is apparently taken to be synonymous with AIDS by the locals), etc.;
14) In Africa, "AIDS" is distributed fairly evenly between the sexes (often slightly more prevalent among women), but is defined differently than in the US or Europe. In Africa, where HIV tests are generally too expensive to use, one can be considered to have "AIDS" (by World Health Organization standards) if three of the following symptoms are observed: weight loss of greater than 10% in the last two months, fever, diarrhea, persistent cough, itchy rash. These symptoms also correspond to local diseases -- such as tuberculosis and malaria -- that are a common result of poor nutrition, poor sanitation, and unsafe drinking water. At any rate, people are not dying in Africa in greater numbers than they ever have and the populations of most African countries are still increasing at a rapid rate. Claiming AIDS makes relief money flow. Unfortunately, money that should be spent to create safe water sources, improve sanitation, and support local food production are instead being spent on "help" in the form of useless condoms, abstinence-education programs, or distribution of anti-retrovirals and infant formula.
15) The thirty or so diseases combined under the AIDS umbrella in most wealthy countries are so vastly different that only the presence of HIV unites them. They don't even all involve the immune system (e.g., Kaposi's sarcoma, lymphoma, and cervical cancer) despite the name AIDS -- which stands for acquired immune deficiency syndrome. Even worse, the same disease gets classified one way if the person is HIV negative (e.g., tuberculosis) and another way if the person is HIV positive (e.g., AIDS). As another example, if a person has Kaposi's sarcoma but is not HIV positive, then they are simply categorized as having cancer. This practice artificially conflates AIDS with HIV, making the correlation appear much stronger than it is.
16) The Centers for Disease Control has changed the definition of AIDS several times, always including more diseases in the AIDS umbrella. Each time a disease is added, more people are included as having "AIDS" or, if they died, are added to the AIDS mortality rate. Some diseases, like cervical cancer, appear to have been added merely to increase the number of women with AIDS, and had the impact of doctoring the statistics to make AIDS appear infectious -- as if it is spreading to females. In 1993, the definition was even included to add one non-disease condition abnormal CD4 cell counts without an AIDS defining illness; the majority of new AIDS diagnoses are in this category of people who may be perfectly healthy at the time of diagnosis. This addition served to instantly double the number of "AIDS" cases.
17) HIV is a retrovirus that depends on the cells it invades to stay alive; it is illogical to suppose that retroviruses kill cells; retroviruses, according to Duesberg, are normally transmitted harmlessly from mother to child, too;
18) HIV is an old virus, yet the proportion of people in the population who are HIV positive (about 1 million in the US population, 36 million worldwide) has not deviated since first tested in 1984;
19) The hypothesis that HIV leads to AIDS is incompatible with the fact that the prevalence of HIV-infected people has stayed constant while the incidence of AIDS cases rapidly spiked and then fell (in the 1990's). If HIV causes AIDS, then the number of HIV infections should have similarly peaked at some point prior to the peak in AIDS cases.
20) The spike in AIDS deaths corresponds to AZT prescription. AZT is a DNA-chain terminator developed and abandoned as too deadly for even short-term treatment of cancer. Like all chemotherapy, AZT kills cells. (Let's examine the logic -- HIV is supposed to kill cells, so let's treat it by administering a drug that kills cells. WTF?) People who take AZT tend to get AIDS; when people stop taking the prescription, they tend to spontaneously go into remission. Other AIDS drugs work similarly, and are now being given to pregnant women and newborn infants to "fight" a harmless disease that hurts no one. But the so-called cure is toxic.
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Over a half a million people have died already of AIDS -- which appears to be a collection of illnesses brought about by some combination of recreational drugs, poor nutrition, and/or medically prescribed drugs to treat the very disease, immune suppression, the drugs themselves induce. Of the two hypotheses about AIDS, the toxicity hypothesis accounts for a greater amount of disparate data than the HIV hypothesis does. The HIV hypothesis does not even come close.
The weird part of this story is how the announcement of a premature, untested hypothesis (made jointly by NIH scientist Robert Gallo and Heath & Human Services Secretary Margaret Heckler at a press conference in 1984) snowballed into the current multi-billion-dollar-a-year AIDS industry. Duesberg's chapters on the politics of science, the CDC, NIH, & FDA, are fascinating. The story of the CDC's origins and their "intelligence officers" was truly scary. Most of all, the stories of scientists turning their backs on disinterested scholarship read like something out of the old Soviet-bloc countries. There was an astonishing closing of ranks, with AIDS dissidents expelled from the scientific community as social deviates, "deniers" (as in Holocaust deniers). AIDS dissidents were (and still are) denied grants to study alternative hypotheses, they were denied publication in journals, and were even denied the opportunity to debate in public. (Were it not for tenure, I'm sure they would have all lost their jobs.) This is not how science is supposed to work. And when the mainstream media bothers to cover the issue at all, the controversy is treated with ad hominem arguments at best. Reminds me of how people who merely question the official account of 9/11 are treated -- ostracized but not properly confronted and debated.
Silence indeed equals death; silence about the true causes of AIDS, silence about the purported cure shoved down our throats, shoved down the throats of our loved ones. The tide is turning. When the dust clears, when the lawsuits are done, the CDC, NIH, and the FDA will have to be dismantled. If there is a just world, then these people, the pharmaceutical industry, and the greedy, craven scientists who propagated all these lies all this time will be tried for crimes against humanity.
Duesberg is a hero and should be treated as such; I'm sure he'd be the last to want that though, as he seems rather modest, an "accidental" hero if ever there was one.
Other items to check out, by another hero:
Farber, C. (April, 2006). Out of Control: AIDS and the corruption of medical science. Harpers Magazine. (available online at harpers.org)
Farber, C. (2006). Serious adverse events: An uncensored history of AIDS. Melville House.
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I suspect it may be wise for us to stick to 9-11 matters. I realize that you find evidently strong parallels. But one battle is probably all we can fight here. It would take years for us to learn enough to evaluate this HIV issue.
guys, this is an open
guys, this is an open thread, keep that in mind. im agnositc on this HIV issue but dont see the big deal with discussing it here, especially considering its an open thread.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Who are you and why are you pressing this debate here
You know, I could go through every one of your points and explain why they are naive or misguided, but I won't. I won't debate this here. As I stated previously, I think it is dangerous to link this kind of a debate in any way to 9/11 truth. I think 9/11 truth is too important an issue to become associated in any way with wacky ideas about an "AIDS conspiracy". Bring out the tin foil hats people, what a bunch of nut jobs.
Is that your intention behind this thread?
And, by the way, if you do want to debate this (somewhere else), its pointless unless you stick to peer reviewed sources. I pointed out only one of thousands of papers showing that HIV does cause disease in mice if you bypass the infection and replication barriers, and the response was to cite a bunch of retoric from Duesbergs book. Learn some immunology and molecular biology then you won't make a stupid statement about HIV only infecting 1 in 1000 T cells (just happen to be Th, which have the right receptors but thats beside the point).
Also look at both sides of the issue and not just one book and a bunch of web sites. I would recommend Jay Levy's "HIV and the Pathogenesis of AIDS". Link below, American Society for Microbiology Press, you won't find this one at Starbucks next to the National Inquirer. You should also take an immunology course, do those things then get back to me so nobody will be wasting their time.
http://estore.asm.org/viewItemDetails.asp?ItemID=693
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Yo the article i mentioned summarized the research from DR. shyh ching lo MD PHD who is a brilliant scientist that heads he most sophisticated lab in the history of the world, the armed forces institute of pathology, if we go to war and our enemy uses biological weapons, this is the lab that will have to figure out what they used. Hes gotten his work published in peer reviewed journals that I linked before. He is one of the few scientists that actually examined the dead bodies of AIDS victims, and was puzzled when he could barely found any hiv, and he read the scientific literature and learned how HIv in the failed Kochs postulates. The mycoplasma he found in aids patients and other sick patients folfiled kochs postulates, he had an animal model, the animals injected with this microbe wasted and died. Is he and the nobel prize winners like Dr.walter gilbert and kary mullis who question the hiv hypothesis not worth your precious time?
As far as your mouse study, mice who are not frankensteined in a labratory are not even suceptible to hiv and the one of the 150 chimps infected never get aids. NOwhere in kochs postulates does it say you can gentically engineer animals to save a failing hypothesis.
Dr. garth Nicolson And dr. Lo have published in peer reviewed journals that I have linked before. Neverthless the peer review process is totally rigged, Would a well known engineering publication ever publish the work of Dr. Jones? of course not, even though his arguments are sound. Like I said the peer review process has not prevented children that are injected with 100 times the epa safe level of mercury or the 100,000 people that died of vioxx.
Its not up to you to tell others that they dont have the right to hear another side of an argument, infact if your argument is so sound you wouldnt be so afraid of others hearing another side of the story. People have the right to hear both sides of an argument, a good prosecutor or defense attorney would not care if a jury was exposed to the other side of an argument if their case were sound, a bad prosecutor with a bad case would do everything to prevent a jury from hearing another side of the argument.
www.projectdaylily.com see hiv fact or fraud http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064591712431946916
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"There is no good explanation for why and how the virus breaks out of the antibody protection," says Lo. "I'm not saying that HIV plays no role in AIDS -- the data shows a clear correlation with disease. But AIDS is much more complicated than HIV."
"In the spirit of "the openness" of science we salute Peter Duesberg for his challenging and courageous voice speaking out against the present scientific establishment. His extensive experience and knowledge about retroviruses lends merit to his critical evaluation of the possible causative role of HIV in the AIDS disease.
We believe the most healthy and responsible scientific attitude in dealing with AIDS research is to explore all possible avenues. To make any conclusion lightly or prematurely, such as ruling out any possible role of microbes in AIDS, or to commit oneself exclusively to a particular agent and completely rule out any other possible role of a different microbe, may all result in a greater loss of AIDS victims."
Shyh-Ching Lo
Chief, Division of Geographic Pathology
Col. Douglas J. Wear, MC USA
Chairman
Department of Infectious and Parasitic Disease Pathology
Department of Defense
Armed Forces Institute of pathology
Washington, DC
Dr. shyh ching Lo
"There are too many shortcomings in the theory that HIV causes all signs of AIDS," says Dr. Luc Montagnier. He disovered hiv, , he agrees with the mycoplasma hypothesis, is he a fool too?
Lo laid all his cards on the table. He had detected an organism similar to a bacteria, called a mycoplasma, in cells taken from AIDS patients. He could not find the organism in cells of healthy individuals. When he injected the organism into four silvered leaf monkeys, three quickly developed low-grade fevers. All four lost weight. All four died within seven to nine months of infection. When they were autopsied, there was Lo's mycoplasma in their brains, livers and spleens.
Lo also reported finding the mycoplasma in the damaged tissue of six HIV-negative human beings who had died from unspecified causes after suffering from suspiciously AIDS-like symptoms. (bozo why did these hiv negative people die then if its just an oppurtunistic infection)
read the rest of this miami herald article here
http://www.aegis.org/news/mh/1990/MH901207.html
Read www.projectdaylily.com this bug is found in cfs, gulf war illness and not in healthy controls.
My unqualified thoughts...
I can't comment that much on the science or the statistics, but I do have some ideas about this...
If 9/11 has taught me anything, it is that "coincidences" are often by design. Like the date... "Emergency 9-11"... The Towers look like an "11" There just HAPPENS TO BE oil under the lands of our alleged attackers...
OR "coincidences" are often really EVIDENCE that seemingly unrelated data are actually deeply connected.
I have also learned that our governments have been manufacturing "reality" for a very long time. Clearly, no lie is too big, no conspiracy too elaborate.
I no longer have any faith in the scientific establishment at large. We know the stupefying effects of paradigmatic thinking. Look how long it has taken scientists to "wake up" to the OBVIOUS controlled demolition of the Twin Towers. And it is only a small percentage who have taken that leap. Most remain in willful, petulant denial. We know that paradigmatic thinking has been a huge stumbling block for science throughout the ages. Geocentricity Vs. heliocentricity, flat earth Vs. round earth, "evil spirits" Vs. microbes... Like it or not, even scientists are subject to the same human psychology as the rest of us. They can be duped too. Finally, science has in the past moved forward with HIGHLY immoral and dangerous technologies, and is doing so at an exponentially growing rate. (Nukes, nanotech, bioengineering, AI, surveilance... Things like these shouldn't just be put out there into the world without public discussion of the possible consequences.) It is easily conceivable that a small group of immoral scientists created a fraudulent story around the HIV/AIDS virus, then stomped out dissenting voices with the help of the government and the media propaganda machine. Once the myth is prevalent and dominant it becomes "reality", and the evidence / facts / data will be unconsciously "cherry-picked" by all but the most independent of thinkers to ensure that the conclusions will comport with the accepted "worldview".
Now, "coincidences" pertaining to HIV...
-Didn't the advent of AIDS coincide nicely with the "War on Drugs"?
-Could anyone have had a vested interest in further demonizing homosexuals?
-How can we untie the knot of correlation / causation when it comes to the relationship between AIDS and "risk behaviors / factors" like drug use or malnutrition?
I think in addition to the highly specialized study of each individual scientific discipline, we must look at the "bigger picture" in order to determine where reality lies (pun intended?). Human psychology affects the outcomes of science. Politics affect the outcomes of science. Economic issues (the bottom line) affect the outcomes of science.
What it amounts to for the general public is the "hidden knowledge" of the "elite". Not all of us can be molecular biologists, or physicists, or economic theorists. Therefore the public is vulnerable to obfuscation of the facts. Actually, even elite scientists are vulnerable to this. If one scientist somewhere in the world hits upon a discovery that shakes up the status quo, you can bet that powerful political and economic forces will work to insulate others from that info.
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I love your post.
I love your post.
Thanks.
I'm usually on board with what you have to say too. There are definitely some good people and good ideas in the mix here. :)
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"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
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In view of Chris' comment, I am editing out what I had here, and putting in a new comment.
Chris: You are right. This is an open thread. The HIV topic is also interesting, and maybe relevant.
My (small) problem is, I can't evaluate its merits, without lots more study.
hello there
I was sick for many years without a diagnosis. The medical establishment failed me. I suddenly became ill with flu like symptoms with memory loss and it slowly got worse. I was given garbage can diagnosis like "Chronic fatigue syndrome". I came across DR. garth nicolson and Dr. nancy nicolson and DR' shyh ching lo's research and am now in remission w antibiotics. ALl of their research was published in peer reviewed journals. Not that the peer review process is so great, i mean where living in a country that pumps kids with 100 times the daily level of mercury, and the peer reveiwers are silent! Did the peer review process save the 100,000 people that died from vioxx?
Anyways mycoplasma incognitus is a real threat. Dr. shyh ching lo published in a peer reveiwed journal and folfilled kochs postulates. HE found a new strain of mycoplasma taht was only found in sick patients, he did not find it healthy controls, he isolated it and grew it in pure culture, he inoculated in monkeys and mice and they sickened and died. Here is an article with peer reviwed refrences.
http://www.aegis.com/pubs/atn/1990/ATN09501.html
Dr. garth nicolson found out this microbe many sick people with gulf war ilness etc. and had confidential sources in the pentagon that disclosed to him this weapon was a part of the biological weapons program. If you read project day lily www.projectdaylily.com you might learn something.
As far as hiv 150 chimps were inoculated and didnt get sick. There is no control animal in that study you mentioned, infact other than your one anecdotal case, all mice and primates injected with hiv dont get sick/aids. Hiv only infects one of every 1000 t cells, and the whole hypothesis was advanced by a horrible scientist named gallo who bypassed debate by announcing his theory public with litlle evidence. Here are some of the scientists who question how a infectiion that is barely detectable w no animal model can cause organ failure, dementia etc
DR. shyh ching lo md phd from the armed forces institute of pathology
Dr peter duesberg, retroviral expert ucb
Dr. richard stroman phd ucb
Dr. harry rubin. phd ucb
Dr. walter gilbert nobel prize winner harvard professor
Dr kary mullis nobel prize winner
Dr. charles thomas former harvard professor
this is a small list of a growing number of scientists that want to reopen the debate.
An open debate is essential to finding the truth, when you hear one side of the story you could easliy be fooled. Make up your own mind. People have a right to informed consent.
See the film hiv fact or fraud. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064591712431946916 read www.projectdaylily.com
bravo
Hi Billybipbip,
I'm sorry you were sick, but glad you figured it out and are on the mend. It's astonishing what you are saying...but totally believable.
Nearly 2500 scientists are rethinking the HIV-AIDS hypothesis. Read their names here:
http://www.rethinkingaids.com/quotes/rethinkers.htm
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thank you
hi thank you for your well wishes.
I cant beleive we are living in a society where evryone is scared of hiv, a microbe that's probably harmless, and the real microbe to worry about, mycoplasma, no one has heard of! I cant imagine the suffering of millions of people with "chronic fatigue syndrome" etc who are just rotting away with this, but thats the way black ops work. they totally fool the population
Dr. garth nicolsons book is a real eye opener. He actually had such inside info with confidential whistleblowers that you actually hear how their plan was to test this on americans/ veterans. he names names(theyve been slightly changed, but you can tell who hes talking about) Several attempts have been made on Nicolsons life, we need to get behind his book and spread it to as many people as we can. If we think 9/11 was the only black op, were fooling ourselves. www.projectdaylily.com
thanks
Hi Billybipbip,How do you
Hi Billybipbip,
How do you think you contracted this illness? Where you in the Gulf War?
I have a child on the autism spectrum as a result of the 25 micrograms of mercury in flu shots. I am still mad as hell at our gov't. Can't sue vaccine companies either - thanks to a rider in the Homeland Security bill. Funny, but researching the vaccine scam lead me down the path to understanding 9/11 truth, the truth about aids, and basically start to find out how the world really works.
It's scary.
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hi
no i think i caught it from a breif exposure. Have you seen this video about mercury in vaccines, this doctor lays out a good case and also talks about how chelation has caused a dramatic improvement in autism. We should put all this info about mercury, mycoplasma, and the aids debate on the front page one day, this is a major weapon used by the new world order, and needs more exposure
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6890106663412840646
I watched the video 2 days
I watched the video 2 days ago. It sure raised questions in my mind. So I've been searching the net for more information. There's quite a lot out there. This is a debate that has gone on from day 1, without me and the rest of the public being aware of it.
As if we didn't have enough with 911 already? But it sure seems that we have another hoax on our hands. After reading many papers and seeing many videos, it is the natural conclusion to draw.
If this is correct, which it certainly seems to be. It is the biggest scientific scandal in the 20:th century.
yes
all these things, the mercury in vaccines, mycoplasma www.projectdaylily.com, and the hiv debate need more exposure. All these things along with 9/11 are pretty sad.
I know more than I care to about mercury
I'm convinced that my son developed mercury poisoning - the symptoms are identical to autism. He only had the flu shot (twice, once in utero, much more damaging), but it has a lot of mercury in it. We've chelated him and seen great improvements; also he's had behavorial and speech and occupational and physical therapy. He's almost on track now, I'd say. No more vaccines - I don't trust the drug companies any more. I have read the research; it is another case of cover-up. As mentioned, it's what got me started down the truth trail.
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I just finished watching the video
It's extremely scary. I can't tell you how many friends i have who are infertile (male and female). It IS an epidemic. (You young people don't know about it because you are so busy trying to _prevent_ pregnancy.)
And think about this vaccine being pushed just on ALL 13-year-old girls to prevent HPV (which is a treatable disease!). Only a fraction of HPV cases lead to cervical cancer, and it would take fucking YEARS of IGNORING positive pap smear tests to get cervical cancer.
I believe it's about manufacturing population control. As the film says, it's cheaper than guns. Dr. Ayoub has guts - I am so glad you flagged this video for me. I knew all the stuff about mercury and autism - it's all in David Kirby's book, "evidence of harm."
Anyway, the same could be said for the depleted uranium used in Iraq (and also in Lebanon last summer by the Israelis) -- it functions to depopulate the entire region. Birth defects, miscarriages, and infertility have all skyrocketed. And all the population control reports target third-world countries or groups of people who are not wanted by the powers that be. Rockefeller Foundation implicated big time in the mercury scam.
As naive as it sounds, I never dreamed it could be intentional. I believed in the "oops/cover-your-ass" theory. It's genocide.
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Columbus, OH Film Festival
CHANGE Confronts Alan Colmes
The Eleventh Day of Every Month
haha, Alan Colmes...
...the fake-ass Jimmy Smits
haha.
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Physics/Science/Mathematics do not lie, only people do.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB
Good job, YT!
Good job, YT!
That's Mike Knarr
Mike Knarr from CHANGE and Philly Truth!
The Eleventh Day of Every Month
That was great!
Speaking of Webster Tarpley and truth squad confrontations, I had a chance to interview Webster for about an hour on Vancouver radio. Hope you like it, and please remember our conference June 22-24!
http://www.animalvoices.org/dynamichealth/pastshows.htm
http://www.animalvoices.org/dynamichealth/dh-2007-06-13.mp3
www.v911truth.org
You got it that right
You got it that right. Great work here. Much love for you. I agree 100%, once this investigation begins, who in the media will be prosecuted for the cover-up? Colmes will not get off easy.
Media Whores will be prosecuted!
Not just "non reporting" how about covering it up as well
Remember NBC just for one example won't release the tapes they did on the segment about the ATF agent, (from 9/11 press for truth)
Ha! What was colmes doing,
tying his shoe? Bet he is going to try and keep his laces tied a bit tighter from now on.
Good job! That was really
Good job!
That was really weak of Colmes, but not surprising. These types don't like when they don't have "creative control" and cannot just cut you off, unless they run away, of course.
Purdue University is deliberately spreading disinformation
Purdue University is deliberately spreading disinformation about the collapse (really detonations) of WTC 1 & 2. See two articles below.
http://www.jconline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070613/NEWS0501/706...
http://www.dentalplans.com/articles/19657/
Universities should be held accountable for the disinformation and propaganda they area spreading (and with the funding of federal agencies like the National Science Foundation).
Universities routinely violate their Code of Ethics by this kind of behavior and should have their feet held to the fire when it comes to truth in education.
and their faculty
Ernest May, Harvard Professor of History, Senior Adviser to the 9/11 Commission and recent co-author of a book with 9/11 Commish Executive Director Philip Zelikow is slated for the third year in a row next fall to teach 12 impressionable freshman the story of 9/11 the event and the Commission.
I have in the past written to the former Dean and outgoing President protesting this and been brushed off... the details are here... http://www.911blogger.com/node/3077 and here: http://www.911blogger.com/node/3642
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Ha!...
... So now it's the kinetic energy of fuel that destroyed the towers!!!... LOL :)
I ran my own simulation on my PDA and found out that it was the passport of Mohamed Atta that destroyed the towers!... The fact that it was found blocks away from the towers proves that it must have had tremendous amount of kinetic energy...
Disinformation
Yes, it appears that they are spreading disinformation/misinformation by blindly accepting the official NIST and FEMA reports. For example the Purdue simulation of the plane strike into the north tower uses data from the FEMA report while claiming it is "physically realistic". The FEMA and NIST report wildly exaggerate by speculating on the damage from the plane and completely ignore the claims of the building designers who specifically designed the buildings to survive aircraft crashes of the type seen on 9/11 (http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/05/world-trade-center-building-des...).
Also related to the topic of disinformation: my paper on disinformation has now been published in the letters section of the Journal of 9/11 Studies:
Discussion of Disinformation/Misinformation
9/11 Disinformation and Misinformation: Definitions and Examples June 12, 2007
Arabesque
http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/Disinformation;DefinitionsAnd...
“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."
Fire insulation failure theory
"FEMA and NIST report wildly exaggerate by speculating on the damage from the plane"
Yet they insist that, without fireproofing, an ordinary office fire would have brought the towers down even if not a single column had been damaged:
"The heat from an ordinary office fire would suffice to soften and weaken the unprotected steel. Evaluation of the effects of the fire on the core column structure, with the insulation removed by the impact, showed that collapse would follow whatever the number of columns cut at the time of the impact."
http://www.dentalplans.com/articles/19657/
If an ordinary office fire can collapse a steel-framed highrise, fire insulation in all the other fire-affected highrises in the world must have been in good condition.
That must also have been the case with this still unfinished skyscraper which burned for hours in Qatar, with huge flames coming out of every floor:
http://11syyskuu.net/terrorismi/Doha.jpg
Despite all the reported shortcomings in construction and quality control, it's a good thing that they at least had managed to take good care of fireproofing so that the building didn't collapse to dust and debris at the speed of 7-8 floors per second, as the Twin Towers and WTC 7 did on 9/11!
I posted the above at http://forums.jconline.com/viewtopic.php?p=41526#41526
I guess you missed that part....
in my paper where I mention that just calling something disinformation without explaining why is in itself disinformation. I don't pay much attention to the delinquents on this site who only resort to insulting people with childish rants.
Childish rants? I was being serious, and with good reason.
Why am I accusing you and Jim Hoffman of engaging in disinfo? Let's see:
-You have consistently lied about and mishandled the eye-witness evidence surrounding the Pentagon attack to come up with a BS statistic stating "almost 100% say they saw AA77/757 hit the Pentagon"
-You appear to repeat all of Jim Hoffman's dishonest and misleadng arguments about the Pentagon attack.
-You refuse to address the many issues in any sort of honest way that I have raised to you regarding your numerous fallacies and falshoods in your discussion of the evidence at the Pentagon.
-Jim Hoffman, your mentor, has unfairly accused most of the 9/11 Research community and activists of being engaged in disinfo because the vast majority do not believe in the official myth that AA77 hit the Pentagon. Quote from Jim Hoffman, "[argueing for no AA77 at the Pentagon is] an idea that may be the single most elaborate and well-orchestrated hoax used to undermine the credibility of the 9-11 Truth Movement."
Do I have to describe yet again how Jim Hoffman tried to sabatoge David Ray Griffen's presentation in Oakland last year?
There is a reason that Jim Hoffman stands virtually alone among most 9/11 researchers in trying to prop up the official government lie that flight 77 hit the Pentagon. You have to ask yourself why he is at odds with most of the other researchers including Professor Jones, David Griffin, Kevin Barret, Webster Tarpey, Barrie Zwicker, Jim Marrs, Dylan Avery, Jasen Bermes and the folks at Louder than Words, SPINE (Scientific Panel Investigating Nine Eleven), and many others. Then, you have to ask yourself why people like Jim Hoffman attampt to turn reality on its head by claiming the opposite, i.e., that most of the "credible" researchers support the official story of the Pentagon attack, and only disinfo agents disagreee.
So, WHO's BEEN CALLING PEOPLE DISINFORMATION AGENTS WITHOUT A VALID REASON? Just have a look at your mentor.
i agree Keenan, see this
i agree Keenan, see this thread and the 2 links i dropped in it to see Arabesque being less than honest(i am NOT trying to start a flame war but if you would just read his own words you can come to your own conclusions):
http://www.911blogger.com/node/9285#comment
and say what you will about Hoffman's work but you are absolutely right, the guy has attacked just about everyone who has contributed to helping the cause of 9/11 truth.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
I need help collecting some WTC dust!
If anyone 9/11 truth friendly is in the NY area, please let me know. I have recently been told of a location where there might still be undisturbed and uncontaminated samples of WTC dust. If at all possible, I'd like to get some for analysis.
Custody issues
Custody issues are probably quite important. Do you know how to do it while preserving the custody history? Not that I do... I am hoping you know about it already, or can find out.
You will need to show quite clearly that there has been no contamination. I guess that is obvious, but I thought I'd say it anyway.
I am aware of the chain of custody issue
I'm more concerned with just getting a hold of what may be the last samples of WTC dust out there as most of New York (as I understand it) has been cleaned up of any artifacts from the twin towers' collapse. And considering the health damage inflicted by the dust so far, it may soon become completely nonexistent.
Again I ask: Anyone in the NY area?
NYFD
Perhaps appeal to the NY Fire Dept. or their union directly. Probably sympathetic. Some member may have hung up a uniform worn that day and not worn it since, or something like that.
Or you could ask the FBI, but then we might never hear from you again.
14 out of 19 US Presidential
14 out of 19 US Presidential candidates support Israeli occupation
Press Esc
Wednesday June 13, 2007
14 out of the 19 US Presidential candidates have vowed to continue American support for Israel's occupation of Palestine territories, and five of them also go as far as to support the 'security wall' dividing Israel from the West Bank which has been ruled as illegal by the International Court of Justice, according to a policy brief released by the Council on Foreign Relations.
Democrats Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich and Bill Richardson are joined by Republican cadidate Ron Paul as the only candidates who oppose Israeli policies.
The position of Republican hopeful John H. Cox is unknown.
Leading Democrat candidate Hillary Clinton and Republicans Duncan Hunter, Mitt Romney and Tom Tancredo have all come in support of the 'security wall'.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/130607occupation.htm
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
don't forget that Hillary
counts one Larry Silverstein as her biggest individual campaign contributor. Funny, huh? This is particularly interesting given the reportedly upcoming hit piece by the Nation linking 9/11 Truth to the political right wing...
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yeah, i heard about that
yeah, i heard about that recently. nothing a Clinton does surprises me. they really envy the Bush families power. and as far as The Nation hit piece attempting to link 9/11 truth to the political right(care to share where you heard that?), that just sounds like fear and frustration on their part, as 9/11 truth has been linked to the political left much more than the right since the start. of course we know that 9/11 truth has people of just about all political persuasions. The Nation has been called out endlessly on its cowardice about 9/11 and it was the one issue that really exposed them in many peoples eyes like no other. let them try and manipulate what little readership they have left into thinking 9/11 truth is a "rightwing" issue. it wont work. it hasnt worked in the past for Fox News(trying to turn it into a "loony liberal" issue that is).
edit:i just read below where you heard it. disregard that question.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Someone should make a video of this hot potato.
Once the "left" starts trying to say that it's "right-wing" nutjobs who believe in the Truth, someone should make a video compilation of both the right-wing media AND the left-wing media trying to pin the issue on the other team. This will be hilarious, and it will speak volumes about the non-partisan nature of our cause, and about the cowardly tactics of divide and conquer.
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"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
brilliant
that would be an awesome rebuttal to this bilk.
who out there has the capability and the impetus?
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Lucky Larry and insurances.
"counts one Larry Silverstein as her biggest individual campaign contributor"
That is probably some well spent money. Good insurance for the future.
yep, he has a way with insurance
that's why they call him Lucky! I wonder if Lucky Luciano had similar luck? He was never a billionaire, though, so maybe Larry is luckier...
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No wonder Gov Spitzer worked so hard to help his pal Larry
Spitzer brokers deal to end W.T.C. insurance dispute
Gov. Eliot Spitzer announced a deal Wednesday for seven insurance companies to pay an additional $2 billion to developer Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority to rebuild the World Trade Center.
The deal brings the total insurance payment for the destruction of the buildings to $4.55 billion, only $100 million less than Silverstein claimed was due after all of the court decisions. He was originally seeking $7 billion, based on the assertion that the two planes hitting the Twin Towers amounted to two separate attacks. He prevailed with that argument on 10 of his 26 insurance policies.
Last year, Silverstein renegotiated his W.T.C. lease with the Port, owners of the site. Silverstein relinquished some of the insurance money to the Port along with the right to rebuild the two least valuable parcels. Silverstein and Port also have about $3 billion in tax-free Liberty Bonds, which are expected to be easier to sell as a result of the new deal.
Spitzer, who reportedly negotiated the deal into the wee hours of Wednesday morning, said it removed “the last major barrier to rebuilding” during a press conference at the State Insurance office on Beaver St. in Lower Manhattan.
http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_211/spitzerbrokersdeal.html
Israel is an artificial state. One reason why it was invented
was to provide the military/industrial complex with unlimited profits from endless wars. That tiny region has been destabilizing the entire world ever since it was created by Zionists in 1947. It about time we put our foot down & end this mess.
You say it was created by
You say it was created by Zionists. That is true, and obvious. Israel was settled by Zionists, by definition.
But do also note that that it was Europeans Jews, mainly, that settled an Arab territory. It was a deal made by and for Europeans, under UN auspices which was and is controlled mainly by the US.
That land-grab could not have happened without colonialism ruling the day. Therefore, this is at base a colonialism/imperialism issue. I think that fact causes the biggest sense of harm over there. Arabs living there got (and get) evicted and squashed by imperialism
The question now becomes: What now? What can people do now, since history can not be erased. You say, end this mess. Good idea, but how?
Roughly the same issues obtain in relation to Native Americans, who owned this land mass, and us. Similar issues obtain with black Africans sold as slaves to people here, in the Americas.
What can we do after such a big and long-lasting atrocity has already happened?
Nelson Mandela had maybe the best answer to this, in South Africa. M.K. Gandhi engineered a similar reconciliation in newly-independent India.
It gets off-topic to discuss this, though as you say it really is important in today's international scene. Ultimately, this issue must have lots to do with 9-11.
simple
ratify a constitution that guarantees equality under the law and the right of return for those forced out in 1947. accept that everyone there as of the enactment is a full and equal citizen, whether Jewish or Arab or Druze or whatever. Then aggressively pursue reconciliation. Nothing else has a remote chance of working.
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That looks good to me.
When Gandhi was trying to dissolve the worst aspects of untouchability in India, and caste fervor, he vowed he would not attend any wedding that were not between castes.
I would hope -- maybe naively -- for the same here. Find ways to get Israeli and Palestinian kids together, often: schooling together, living in nearby neighborhoods, all that. Design a program that invites togetherness of the younger set.
No one in Israel will listen to this idea, of course. It is a pipe-dream at best. As is yours too I suppose.
Here is one major factor: US funding. Where would Israel be without it? I imagine the state could not continue as it does without full US monetary support. Plus military hardware. So, in the end, 'we' are holding all of the cards.
It is strange. Who is this 'we' holding the cards? It never seems like the actual people of the US.
Israel
Yes, its time to shin the light on all of this. New movie "Occupation 101" describes history of Zionist state. Read Norman Finklestein's "Beyond Chutzpa". View the video online "Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land". Join "Center for National Interest" a Washington based organization that is questioning the support for Israel. There is also the Mearsheimer and Walt paper on the Israel lobby that is seminal very important read. Lastly, there is quiet rumbling of organizations around the world calling for boycott divestment and sanctions against Israel (this includes labor unions in S. Africa). The oppression of the Palestinian people is one of the reasons we are so hated by world community. It is a reason for blowback that is rarely mentioned by any politician. Its important to remember that the general Israeli populace understands its being manipulated by very powerful forces. Its the government policies, the lobby in this country and the neocon Zionists that call for the policies (apartheid) which foment angry response of people worldwide that are paying attention to truth and injustice.
Building 7 on Diane Rehm Yesterday!
Yesterday while listening to the Diane Rehm Show (NPR) : http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/07/06/12.php#13221
someone slipped past the screeners and asked why The Demolition of Building 7 has not been covered by mainstream media.
Of course, Scott Gant not being an expert could not address it. Diane Rehm admitted that a great many people (bloggers) have been asking her to cover it.
Great Job Scott getting the truth out ! It is worth hearing:
Scott at 43:00
http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/07/06/12.php#13221
11:00Scott Gant: "We're All Journalists Now" (Free Press)
In an age of bloggers and blogging, 24/7 news and the near-instant transmission of information, the definition of what it means to be a journalist is changing. A constitutional law and media scholar explains why the nation needs to reconsider what the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote about 'freedom of the press.'
Guests
Scott Gant, a partner with Boies, Schiller & Flexner, practicing constitutional and media law.
www.northtexansfor911truth.com
AWESOME!!
When I first "woke up" I sent the Diane Rehm show a nasty e-mail. A link to a Steven Jones talk or something, and the message said, "You are journalists. You better do your goddamn job."
I don't listen to NPR anymore.
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I'm in beautiful St. Maarten...
yet I'm still logging on to 911blogger.com. I think I should seek help. No, seriously...
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Physics/Science/Mathematics do not lie, only people do.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB
After the dust settles & everyone finally digests the fact that
9/11 was an inside job, another fraud we must go after is the income tax system.
The IRS & certain other federal agencies are basically self-funding racketeering operations approved by our criminal government!
Another huge evil is the Federal Reserve which is not federal at all. It's a private bank owned by the world's elite that has wrongfully been issuing & profiting off our currency since 1913.
yes!
Agreed. I liked Money as Debt as the best explanation of the money system (available on Google or YouTube). I especially liked the explanation of inflation as the only real tax we need. If the government printed its own money instead of borrowing, then they would have to limit spending in order to keep inflation down. Because more money means more supply and lower real value, inflation hits our pocketbook the same as a tax. The reason we don't do this is because the government gave up its responsibility to coin money to the federal reserve bank cartel so that any money it spends needs to either be raised by taxation or borrowing. What a scam! If the gov just printed for free whatever it needed to spend, we would then as citizens have to hold them responsible and vote them out if they spent more than our own productivity could withstand. We would then by necessity need to be productive again so that we could sell things to the world and further support the value of our currency. To leave all of that to a private cartel of rich international asswipes is crazy... This is true on the macro level as well as on the micro level where families and individuals live beyond their means in the present by mortgaging their future wealth to private banks through the predatory credit system. This really should be a non-partisan issue, just like 9/11...
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Colombo I think you may have it backwards
It is a more likely scenario that the American people will awake to the income tax fraud en masse first. Because honestly, who likes to pay their income tax?
1913 the silent American coup took place.
The privately owned federal reserve, the 16th amendment and the 17th amendment all came into being in 1913.
These three items were a surgical strike on the American republic by the ultra super rich money controllers.
They aren't stupid. They knew just what they had to do.
They picked these three means to overthrow the American republic and its constitution with the ends being the North American Union.
And with a bought off ignorant traitor dumb-Ass complicit president Woodrow Wilson we immediately started into WW 1 which was the start of the whole military industrial complex disaster of perpetual eternal war and the seeds of the secret police organizations of today which leads thru to the military dictatorship we live in today.
As General Butler says in "War is a racket". Sorry, paraphrasing. Armies are just tools for the bankers to get back the money they loan countries when the countries can't pay the loans back. And reading his book he talks about all the money corporations made off World War 1. He talks about what kind of money they were making before this war and during this war. The profits were already there before that war but they mulitiplied many fold during the war. War is a profit industry for those who make the clothes, tires, war vehicles, war planes and weapons.
To get smart about the private Federal Reserve (our unconstitutional fourth branch of govt which really controls the other three).
Read "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" by Eustace Mullins.
Read "Jekyll Island" by Griffith.
Listen to "America Freedom to Fascism" by Aaron Russo.
Listen to "The money masters" parts 1 and 2 on video.google.com
Read this amazing link http://publiccentralbank.com/
THe federal reserve is a privately owned cartel which preserves the monopoly of the big New York City banks and also has a government facade. The govt tolerates the federal reserve because then it can borrow money without having to raise taxes which might get them kicked out and what would they have to do then, get an honest job like the rest of us. Don't want people to become aware that they are getting secretly taxes thru inflation; which by the way was nearly non existant in the 19th century.
Amendment 16:
There were NO income taxes before 1913.
Immediately after 1913 there was a 1% income tax.
They got their foot in the door and now its a 50% income tax with more on the way.
Why does the govt need our money ? It can print all it wants. Its about control. Its about taking what we have so we don't have time to involve ourselves with the issues of the day. Like become again involved with local govt. Like studying about the North American Union - a dictatorial state where we will have no American constitution and no human rights and we will be at the whim of the money controllers and their non-elected beauracracy. Like deal with nation destroying illegal immigration. etc...
http://www.devvy.com/notax.html
Amendment 17:
This amendment removed the power of the state legislatures to vote in the Senators.
The Constitution had its reasons for voting in Senators thru the state legislatures alone.
This amendment has the Senators being voted in by popular vote as Congressmen are.
While this may sound good and democratic we already have the House of Representatives being voted in by popular vote.
Why did the money controllers go after this one ?
So, that the power of the balancing state legislatures would not be represented in the federal government.
This was to centralize power in Washington DC at the federal level and remove the power of the state legislatures.
This Amendment is little talked about but IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
Email and call your state legislatures to get rid of Amendment 17.
I believe it was also never ratified either.
By repealing this unratified 17th Amendment it will restore the power of the State legislatures AND make it MUCH HARDER for the super money controllers to control the federal goverment and this country as they do today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These three items are a means to bring us into a full dictatorship. They are not the end. The end is the North American Union with complete destruction of the constitution, no voting, complete control of an Amero currency with the parasitic bankers gorging the lifeblood out of the other 450 million North Americans.
Also, in 1919 or so the Federal Reserve then went about to buy out the media. They had a study on how they could do this. What they then did was buy out the heart of 25 of the major newspapers in the US. And voila. THey not only control the money but they control the news. They own the Washington Post and the New York Times.
Google "Do no evil?"
This is the motto the recently adopted for thier company. I wonder if they include censorship as "evil", because I kinda do. I'm refering to the google video "top 100" and specificly loose change 2e (maybe others though) ever since 9/11 mysteries got pulled not one 9/11 video (except what Bob & Bri saw) has been in the top 100, even though LC2e has (by thier tracker) been consistantly in the top 100 for view for the previous day (from 30s-90s). Currently for today it stands @ 107, however if you look at the bottom of the list things that are ranking in the 200s are up there. Can someone repost this (or a sumation) on the LC forum/blog and see what type of response we can get, I hate to have to prod google, but something has to be done (can anyone find a phone # contact that we can call for this). This is an information war right now, and think how many people have seen LC2e just from that (top 100) page! Google obey your own rules, and give credit where it's due...... there are enough videos of scantliy clad girls on the internet, if a different one of value gets the hits, acknowledge that. That is "doing no evil"!
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." ---- Mark Twain
actually that motto has been around for a long time...
and google from the beginning has been a sketchy operation... check out this write up about their IPO: http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/?q=node/24
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Isn't Google based in
Isn't Google based in Israel?
google's "do no evil" = Orwellian Doublespeak
From censoring/burying 911 Truth to helping the gov spy on Americans through their own computers, google's "do no evil" fits in perfectly with Bush's "Freedom Agenda"...."Clear Skies Act"...."Patriot Act"....etc.
In other words, google's actions speak louder than their words, and they appear to be not much better than YouTube/MySpace.
YouTube recently canned some other accounts that posted good 911 Truth info:
tyrranyofsouls
spineymedia
acrobat74
nine11revolution
biada
fusion93
Has there been a mass exodus to a new video sharing site to avoid this type of censorship (or in light of this - should there be?)
It seems like such a waste of good hard work for accounts to be set up like this, then having watchers saving/using links to the videos to share for activism - only to be discover it becomes a complete dead end. Sometimes I post links on some reader comment sites, double check the link to make sure it's still working, but by the next day - the page I have linked to has been removed. I almost get the sense that "somebody" is reading posts picked up by keywords and then hacking the pages linked.
Should we try to designate a new video sharing site as a clearinghouse for 911 related material, that has not been bought/sold out ....or would that just bring more attention to it and a subsequent concerted effort to have it destroyed?
More and more - I am thinking..."It's the free dvd's stupid!"
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke, 1729 - 1797
Google is worst in privacy
check it out for yourself:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070611-google-named-worst-privacy...
Google up to no good
Check this out: ever heard of Dan Senor??????
I know this is from 2005, but...
http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2005/05/16/story3.html
so am confused, does he or does he not work for Google? can't seem to find out.
from bollyn i believe
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-Zionist-Occupation-of-Iraq.html
Here's a new one...
I'm having trouble downloading google videos now with tried and true scripts and sites. They have created some new type of frame and I can't get out of the frickin' thing either.
Anybody know the scoop or is it just me?
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hit piece alert - need to counteract attempts at perception mgt.
I heard from a guy on the street who stopped to talk about 9/11 that The Nation is planning to run a hit piece that links the 9/11 truth movement to right wing causes/individuals/etc. His friend is an intern there and is working on the piece, which I will be looking out for.
I think that given the fact that certain elements in the truth movement may well appear to the public to be fairly right wing this is something that we should all be aware of and try to counteract. While everyone working to get at the truth of 9/11 is entitled to their views on anything and everything, we should take into account all tactics being used to turn the public against our movement and be able to counter them. This means that those of us who take issue with the more right wing elements in the truth movement should step up our efforts to appeal broadly to the public, if need be by distancing ourselves from those who promote 9/11 in conjunction with traditionally right wing causes like anti-tax, pro-gun, and isolationist stances. Let me emphasize that this is not to say any of these positions are bad or wrong, just that as a matter of PR and perception management we cannot afford to have rags like the Nation continue to promote left-gatekeeping by using this tactic.
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"Divide and Conquer" Propagands by the Perps....
.....On Faux, they contort themselves into knots to portray the Truth Movement as "liberal" to turn off their viewers from looking into 9/11.....no surprise that the propaganda machine would do the opposite in liberal forums like the Nation....
IMO, I would hope that we always enthusiastically point out that the movement has many people from all over the political spectrum....it would be to our great disadvantage to distance ourselves from either patriotic, well-meaning conservatives or liberals....
yep, I do it all the time
basically to tell whomever, whether they lean left or right, that YES, people LIKE THEM are into 9/11 Truth. It's an American issue, even a global issue, not at all a partisan issue. If we want to dismantle the gatekeepers' and fake left right paradigm's power structure we have to push hard on this simple fact...
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It's not a matter of left or right
It's a matter of right or wrong. 9/11 Truth NOW!
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
We
The great uniter (who became the great divider) has actually come full circle. I see people in every spectrum uniting over 911 truth, loss of liberties, the environment, the wars. It is interesting what is happening. It requires a new tolerance because we are mixing and uniting.
Is the Nation mag going to alienate us? They will make themselves obsolete.
The beauty of focusing on the science
is that it has no "left" or "right". The melting point of steel is the melting point of steel whether you are a communist, a facist, a libertarian, a jew, a christian, a buddist, a muslim or a voodoo priestess. The same goes for law of conservation of momentum, and the laws of thermodynamics.
Sometimes I feel like I am living in a nightmare. The science of these events is irrefutable, and shows with as much certainty as you are ever going to get in this world that the events of 9-11 simply could not have happended the way the OCT says they did. Anyone with an 8th grade level education could understand it if presented with the evidence.
.....and yet almost 6 years later the propaganda rather than the facts holds sway. If I read the same senario in a fiction novel, or saw it in a movie, I would not believe it.
It has thus far been a truly astonishing accomplishment for the government/corporate media machine. Quite amazing indeed.
voodoo priestess
Finally, somebody gives my profession a little respect and recognition!
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
*BZZZZZZZZ!!!!*
This means that those of us who take issue with the more right wing elements in the truth movement should step up our efforts to appeal broadly to the public, if need be by distancing ourselves from those who promote 9/11 in conjunction with traditionally right wing causes like anti-tax, pro-gun, and isolationist stances
WRONG!!! This means that people who hold those political beliefs and people who hold "lefty" political beliefs should appear TOGETHER and LOUDLY voice their non-partisan support of the truth. Go do a video with an anti-tax gun-nut, RT, and both of you explain how you have different views on many issues, but you agree that the truth is the truth.
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"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
hmmm
I could have phrased that better, agreed. Differentiate instead of distance maybe?
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I think any attack piece from the left is a huge opportunity.
I understand your concern here in a way. I find myself experiencing some misgivings about alinging myself with people who's politics I might not have agreed with just a few months ago. For example, I do have a bit of trouble with Ron Paul's stance on abortion. Then again, I've got a whole new level of respect for "gun nuts" since I now see a real threat from our tyrannical government.
Anyway, I say we just keep doing what we've been doing, then when the left tries to label us "righty" we just compile those videos / articles with the ones put out by Faux trying to label us as "the loony left". Neither side wants to touch us? Well then it should be clear that this is a non-partisan issue. With a little clever video splicing, both teams could end up with egg on their faces.
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Dear 911 Truth Movement
I am sorry I have not seen you in awhile. It's not you, it's me. I have found a new passion. I know I know, you think I am a fool. But I can't take it anymore. I can't satisfy you on my own. I need some help. I have started seeing Ron Paul. I feel that together, he and I can give what you deserve. I hope you are not mad. I will see you soon. Hopefully I can introduce to Ron Paul sometime. I think you would love him. Until then, please don't feel that I have just used you...Again, this is ultimitly for you. I hope you can forgive me.
Charlie
I'm seeing Ron Paul too!
Don't worry, the 9/11 Truth movement will welcome you back with open arms.
"Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy."
-Ron Paul
New Australian Mufti doubts bin Laden role
Australia's top Muslim cleric riled critics on Tuesday by questioning Osama bin Laden's role in the September 11 attacks on the United States, a day after being appointed to repair strains with non-Muslim Australians. Getting plenty of coverage - I am sure we have not heard the last of him:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21889477-662,00.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070612/wl_nm/australia_mufti_dc
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=20...
Also - walking around Asda (aka WalMart) in Harrogate, North Yorkshire yesterday and a news bulletin over the tannoy mentioned Olson and the twin towers but I didn't quite catch it - what the bloody hell is going on?
Also - 911 truth poster in Knaresborough bus station with polite notice to leave it there - it was left there for one week
Whodunnit?
I think that Bush is part of a crime family, but like all mafia, there are sometimes turf-wars. This time, the Bush Crime Family got outfoxed by another crime family. It seems reasonable to gather all the information we have about who is the most likely perpetrator of 9/11. Who could the criminals be? Let's see . . .
-who had spies in our country living next to the supposed hijackers?
-who was captured celebrating in view of the attacks, who had vans with explosives, cash, box-cutters, other people's passports?
-who failed lie-detector tests but were quietly allowed to leave the country on "visa violations?"
-who would like to pin the blame on Saudi Arabia?
-who called for a "new pearl harbor?"
-who wrote about the need to "secure the realm?" (bonus point: where is that realm?)
-who took ownership (with insurance terrorist rider) of the Twin Towers shortly before 9/11?
-who took out put options on the United and American Airlines?
-who was in charge of the 9/11 Commission?
-who owns the media?
-who owns congress?
-who owns most of the presidential candidates for the 2008 “election?”
-who benefited from the invasion of Iraq?
-who is helping to foment unrest in Iraq, alongside US soldiers?
-who has an exalted history of engagin in false-flag terror attacks?
-who is trying to get us to invade Iran?
Guess who?
This list, drawn from memory, may represent the proverbial tip of the iceberg. Feel free to add more or critique as necessary.
Here is an interesting read about how 9/11 "truth" that manages to avoid all the above details is allowed to slip through and appear in the mainstream media: http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-9-11-Controlling-the-Message.html
Kate of the Kiosk posted that link on another blog, but I had to repeat it here, as it really gave me pause.
Maybe Bush let it happen and the Israeli Mossad made it happen. LIHOP AND MIHOP. (FYI, I think that Cheney is definitely on the MIHOP side.) Unless Bush invades Iran, I predict that the media will try to pin 9/11 entirely on him. He was afterall in charge on 9/11 but went AWOL, he stalled an investigation, he wouldn't testify publically, under oath, or on his own. On the other hand, maybe the Mossad are using the threat of blaming Bush for 9/11 only as blackmail to invade. Afterall, if Bush testifies, he might point a few fingers.
(Then again, all they need to do is plant an intern in Bush's office, wait for the inevitable affair, and then threaten to reveal the affair. [Afterall, who saves a dress with semen on it? Any women you know?] As a twist on this technique, they kill the intern and frame the politician, aka Condit, Scarborough, etc. It's a mini-false flag attack. Or maybe they already have the goods on Bush already. Remember that gay fake reporter who visited the whitehouse a lot after hours? Wasn't he really a professional escort?)
I noticed that quite a few of the posters on 911 blogger get upset when people try to explore who besides the Bush Administration may be responsible for these attacks. Truth is truth, and we should go wherever it leads.
I am afraid of a nuclear false-flag attack coming to the US to be blamed on Iran. Wake up!
p.s. I posted this as a blog but don't expect it will appear, so I'm posting it here.
good work E Vero
But be careful with Bollyn and Smith--their info is often good but there's something weird about both of them AND Eric Hufschmid... I think this is a great topic of discussion--namekly is Bush being blackmailed? Please post it as a blog on wtcdemolition.com/blog ! I'm by no means trying to replace this site, which I think is great, but I do realize that some topics are not as welcome as others and I think there needs to be an alternative outlet for those...
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RT - I tried to join your
RT - I tried to join your site but am still waiting for my email with a password! Please advise. I saw no email to contact you either or i would have done so.
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done!
you should be all set...
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Thanks, I'm in. E
Thanks, I'm in.
E
Bush blackmailed!?!?!?!??!
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS ON??????
Explain Marvin Bush / Wirt Walker III and Securacom. Explain Jeb's Role in BOTH the Florida elections, AND providing Dubya with a "safe haven" in Florida on the morning of 9/11. Explain the Bush Family ties to the bin Laden family. Explain the Carlyle Group's (Daddy's) war profiteering. Explain Jeb's involvement with PNAC and "Rebuilding America's Defenses".
Explain what Dubya has been gleefully doing to the U.S. Constitution!!!!!!!!
Seriously, are you guys having some kind of seizure that is preventing oxygen from reaching your brains or something?
I don't mean to be combative, but this is really outrageous. BUSH IS GUILTY. His non-9/11 crimes alone would put him away for life, or end his life.
Hello!! WMD LIES - WAR CRIMES - TORTURE - ILLEGAL DOMESTIC SPYING - VALERIE PLAME/TAMPERING WITH A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION...
Why on Earth would he and his family be involved in all these other things, but NOT 9/11? Even when there is clear evidence that they WERE involved in 9/11!!
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"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
You are absolutely right
You are absolutely right about Bush. He is guilty. He probably isn't smart enough to have planned it - but I am sure he knew what was going down. Cheney probably just told him, "don't worry your pretty little head; I'll take care of everything." Certainly plenty of other Bush clan members were implicated. And Bush had to have signed the order taking guns away from pilots, he saw all the PDBs, etc. And since then he has done a bang-up job of destroying our country, our laws, our economy, our state of mind, and our relations with others abroad. He knowingly lied us into a war and is therefore directly responsible for the deaths and maimings (physically and psychologically) of our troops. And we have had close to one million Iraqis die as a direct result of the invasion; I don't know how many Afghanistanis. Untold millions are suffering, displaced, raped, their homes destroyed. But I still very much doubt that Bush and members of his administration were the _only_ ones.
I should have phrased my earlier post better. What I meant to say is that Bush could be left to hang all my himself. Right now, the current lie is that it was 19 arab hijackers, mostly Saudis, who orchestrated the events of 9/11. Some people are, wittingly or not, framing the opposite of that story to be simply "bush did it," or "it was an inside job." Instead of allowing for the opposite to be "select members of our gov't working in concert or directed by persons from another country or sympathetic to another country." I do feel like our country has been taken over, with collusion from Bushies to be sure, but taken over nonetheless. By Israel.
Again, I could have phrased my post better. Toward the end, I did say that "I noticed that quite a few of the posters on 911 blogger get upset when people try to explore who besides the Bush Administration may be responsible for these attacks." But at the beginning of the post I screwed up.
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Ok, I'm calming down now.
Heh heh heh.
Yeah, I wouldn't say "Israel" either though. A criminal gang of international "elites", including factions from Europe, North America, Israel... I'm not trying to say "Bush did it", I'm just saying let's not let that little worm wiggle off the hook either. It is unlikely that he would have been involved in the planning, but he is surely complicit, and surely knew what was going down. Daddy might very well have been involved in planning...
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
determining the guilty parties
I'm not so sure that Bush was blackmailed, but I have yet to see PROOF that he was active in planning it. Cheney seems to be pretty clearly involved, but since he controls Bush, who knows if he told him? He could have said "Don't worry about it. We've got people on it" with regard to the PDB, etc. Cheney could have planned the school visit for him so that he would be in public and clear of suspicion. In my opinion, in the classroom video Bush seemed a bit stunned, but not completely surprised which leads me to believe he wasn't in on the planning.
Now, I think Bush is a war criminal anyway, so I'm not saying he's innocent. It's just bothered me for awhile now that people are making assertions about who the perpetrators were without concrete evidence. I think it turns off people who aren't familiar with 9/11 Truth. I try to tell people the range of opinions of LIHOP to MIHOP when I broach the subject. Personally, I tend to think it's a combination of the two, but I think it's too early to say on what level certain people were involved.
Which brings me to the point I've wanted to make for awhile in regard to Bin Laden. There are some on here who believe that he's still a CIA asset and that he's been controlled the whole time. The problem with that is, why would he immediately deny involvement, forcing the CIA to create a phony confession video? It doesn't make sense. Yes, I think Al Qaida is/was infiltrated—if not mostly made up of—Western intelligence agents. But it seems Bin Laden was just made the bogeyman, while the agents in the ranks planned and carried out 9/11.
Of course, there is a lot of info out there, so feel free to correct me where you think I'm ignorant or stupid or just plain wrong.
Thanks.
RT, Feel free to post my
RT,
Feel free to post my blog yourself on your site. And you can rewrite it a bit to make it clear that I think that Bush and some other party worked in concert but that Bush may end up shouldering all the blame. I should have made that clearer.
E
I think we should fry ALL the perps.
But PLEASE don't try to exonerate Bush, or any of his family!! If you don't think the Bush's are complicit on a MIHOP level, maybe you need to get your nose out of the rotten matzah for a while and investigate the Bush horde. They're all guilty/complicit!! Bushes, Silversteins, Zionist neocons, Rupert Murdoch and his propaganda minions, Clintons, Kerry...
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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Who dunnit
Vero,
I've also had blogs not appear without any explanation.
HINT TO MANAGEMENT: You should give a reason why blogs aren't posted, rather than this invisible censorship.
"-who took ownership (with insurance terrorist rider) of the Twin Towers shortly before 9/11?"
The insinuation is that Silverstein has links to the Israeli government. Is there any "hard evidence" to support this? What do we know about Silverstein's history and connections?
70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11
John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.
thanks for asking, John
Hi John,
I'm pretty new, so I don't know what the normal procedure is. I have submitted 4 blogs, and one made it. I don't know if they were rejected for being OT, offensive, or boring, . . . maybe all three!
Links to Israeli gov't?
Here is the ABSOLUTE best summary of Larry's links to 9/11 and "Israel" (meaning Mossad & the Likud wing of the Israeli gov't):
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/lehrman.htm
That page also details nicely the Mossad connections to 9/11, but the best page I've found is here:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm
---Here's a nice quote from the end of the page listed above:
I'll close with the words of Phil Jayhan of letsroll911.org:
It can further be proven that the World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolitions, purposely, with 3000 innocent, helpless souls inside. With this being the case, it changes everything for the World, for Afghanistan, for Iraq, for George Bush, and lastly but not least, the insurance companies involved. This website will save them billions! It will save United & American Airlines billions, and help everyone recover losses already paid out. Not only was 911 pre-planned, but those who did so, did so with the intention of using this event to defraud insurance companies out of billions upon billions of dollars at the same time. Thus making the insurance claims null and void. I sure would hate to be Larry Silverstein right now, cause this doesn't look good for him. He bought the World Trade Center some 90 days before 911 with all sorts of special and now, in hindsight, curious insurance riders. He bought 2 Asbestos filled 'Golden Herring' Towers which would cost more to tear down than to replace. And now, he has the gall to try to make the insurance companies double pay for the World Trade Center. Shameless. But with this new development, the insurance companies can not only stop payment on all 911 claims, but they can now start to recover their huge losses due to fraud. What will Larry Silverstein settle for now? Perhaps he knew nothing, one can only hope. It will be for the investigators of the true official investigation to figure out. But as of yet, this investigation hasn't started. The sham 911 commission is designed to cover this up. The true investigation, in my opinion, will only be done by those who have the most to lose. Insurance companies. When they see the Dog and Pony show that has been leveled against them, they will, and should rise up in unison and say; "Nope, not a dime ... Let the insiders pay for their handiwork! With the information here at the site, it should provide the Insurance companies with far more than enough reason to just say 'no' to another nickel or dime payout. Let the truth begin and let's leave the falsehoods behind....
Call anytime,
Leland
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Bullshit source alert.
I asked for "hard evidence" connecting Silverstein to the government of Israel.
You've posted an opinion piece.
The first link goes to "serendipity.li" which is closely linked to DISINFORMATION ARTIST (literally) The Webfairy.
The second source is a neo-nazi type rant against Zionism from WW1 and on.
These are terrible sources, that I would never pass on, and would never cite, and would never have any confidence in whatsoever.
The "Serendipity" page has some links, however, that don't work.
"A Jerusalem Post article detailing Silverstein's work in Israel as well as his close relationship with Ariel Sharon and the Likud Party is here:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/05/18/Features/Features.6890.html "
They don't give any more info about the article, so that it can be tracked down from its author, title, etc.
This is good info from Ostrovsky, but it doesn't prove anything about Silverstein:
"Victor Ostrovsky in his book By Way of Deception describes the sayanim thus:
There are thousands of sayanim around the world. In London alone, there are about 2,000 who are active, and another 5,000 on the list. They fulfill many different roles. A car sayan, for example, running a rental agency, could help the Mossad rent a car without having to complete the usual documentation. An apartment sayan would find accommodation without raising suspicions, a bank sayan could get you money if you needed it in the middle of the night, a doctor sayan would treat a bullet wound without reporting it to the police, and so on. The idea is to have a pool of people available when needed who can provide services but will keep quiet about them out of loyalty to the cause. They are paid only costs. Often the loyalty of sayanim is abused by katsas who take advantage of the available help for their own personal use. There is no way for the sayan to check this. "
This does not show up at all:
"Silverstein's Relationship with Israel's Likud Party and Ariel Sharon:
http://www.iasps.org.il/scorecards/yerushalmi.htm
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This is unsourced, with no documentary evidence:
"As Dafna Barak of the Israeli Free Trade Zones Council says: "... A man like Larry Silverstein ... contributes millions of dollars every year to Israel.""
This is unsourced to anywhere:
"Furthermore, it turns out Silverstein was actually a very close friend of Netanyahu:
The two have been on friendly terms since Netanyahu's stint as Israel's ambassador to the United Nations. For years they kept in close touch. Every Sunday afternoon, New York time, Netanyahu would call Silverstein. It made no difference what the subject was or where Netanyahu was, he would always call, Silverstein told an Israeli acquaintance. Their ties continued after Netanyahu became prime minister. They met several times and Netanyahu promised to give the project (Free Processing Zone in Israel) his support. "
A "truth movement" cannot function on such flimsy sources of information.
70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11
John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.
Hi John,Thanks for the
Hi John,
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't mean to come up with incorrect sources. I'm just searching for the truth here. I desperately want to know what the correct sources are to figure out who ALL the culprits of 9/11 are.
Can you help me?
Your comment was in fact ambiguous. Do you think that there is in fact no Israeli/Mossad/Likud connection to 9/11 OR that I have used the incorrect sources to demonstrate that link? Please advise.
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No letting go of the official story
'Unless Bush invades Iran, I predict that the media will try to pin 9/11 entirely on him.'
Nope. Casting aside the official account of 9/11 as a crime solely perpetrated by Muslim extremists would defeat their entire purpose. Indeed, any exposure of the reality of false-flag terror to the general public would defeat their purpose. I've said it before and I'll say it again--if the elites saw any advantage in revealing anything beyond official 'incompetence' with respect to 9/11, it would have been revealed long ago. Instead, after long being ignored completely, we continue to be attacked and scorned, while elite critics of the administration try every other angle except 9/11 truth to damage the administration.
essential link
for understanding 9/11 and the role of Israelis:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm
Not essential at all.
Link is egregious and biased. I'll stick with the facts.
70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11
John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.
"Link is egregious and biased."
"gasp!" You mean it's not ADL / AIPAC approved, right? Pull up & look at the big picture.
Great read!
"Saint Rudy the Recycler" LOL
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interns < internets
A big headline on CNN home page says that the demolition
of two towers of an Iraqi mosque "may have been and inside job."
Somewhat suggestive of the WTC, IMO. I wonder if there was a building #7 nearby?
Mosque 7 you mean?
I hear the Imam in charge said that the coalition forces made the decision to pull it, then they watched it collapse. By pull it he meant pull out the Korans, I think...
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LOL!
He meant pull everyone out by their beards.
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ok! We all know that
Mr. Kevin Barett came back from Morocco. Now is anyone had any kind of info about is search about the living 911 pilot-therorist ....!!?? Or have I missed something here?
Drummerboy
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You can't hide a lie for long. Truth shall come out.
he failed to find Waleed al Sheri
but apparently some local reporters are on the story. there should be details at mujca.com
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Identification requested
Maybe 911Blogger people can help me. There is a guy in a FOX News clip on 9-11 describing what he saw. You see him in a lot of 9-11 films - the latest I've seen is in 9-11 Mysteries, when she discusses the birth of the 9-11 myth that day. He's wearing a black baseball cap and black Harley Davidson t-shirt. He has the look and voice of an actor to me, and his composure as he describes the day's events to the FOX News reporter always struck me as strange, very prepared. He finishes by saying how he "saw the towers collapse, first one and then the other, mostly due to structural failure because the fires were so intense". He had the official explanation of the collapse of the Towers days and weeks before anyone ventured a possible reason for the collapses.
He speaks so clearly and calmly, and hits the main points so concisely, I've always thought he was a disinfo agent. I've never seen anyone comment on this guy. Does anyone know who he is?
hahaha, that would be the
hahaha, that would be the much talked about Harley Guy, the on the scene "expert" with the "everyman" look. as far as i know he has never been indentified. big surprise that he ends up on Fox though no?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
here you go JJ -
check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U_GISl3aAA
Harley "Infommercial guy" - cracks me up every time I hear that.
As for his real name.....hmmm...maybe something like James Bond...or Austin Powers?
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke, 1729 - 1797
Jason Bourne?
LOL.
Hope the money was worth it, JB. You soulless wanker.
"mostly due to structural failure"
notice the smile on his face too, he can barely hide it. and the Harley shirt really is sloppy work in my opinion. i guess it worked at the time though. great link by the way. Jerome Hauer is a scumbag.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Thanks, people,
for the info and video link. That guy has always bugged me and I guess I missed the discussions about him. In our CSI world, you'd think he'd be trackable with some cool face recogition software and massive media database search - like the military has.
Hauer & Friends Poster:
I like this picture from the San Diego people. I was wondering why Jerome was at the top, after watching that last video I fully understand. Print it out and put it up as a poster at your local post office!
Hauer certainly earned his place on top of that list
Too bad they left out Bernie Kerik. I guess they didn't have enough room to put his fat face on the poster.
Ask and you shall receive
mike4T - right on target. Thanks! Once again, I am not alone in my opinions. I just need to reach out to the right people.
new truth group
the morgantown truth group had their first meeting, which went swimmingly. 2 guys in our group can get professional banners and t-shirts at cost which will give us great visibility on the street
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The Eleventh Day of Every Month
meetup.com
lots of 9/11 meetup groups. search by zip code.
http://9-11.meetup.com/325/
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Media 'like feral beast' - Blair
Tony Blair has said the media can operate like "a feral beast" and its relationship with politicians is "damaged" and in need of repair.
The prime minister said relations had always been fraught, but now threatened politicians' "capacity to take the right decisions for the country".
The arrival of web-based news and blogs and 24-hour television news channels meant reports were "driven by impact".
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From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6744261.stm
Extended excerpts from his speech, which can be found here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6744581.stm
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Internet advertising has overtaken newspaper ads. There are roughly 70 million blogs in existence, with around 120,000 being created every day. In particular, younger people will, less and less, get their news from traditional outlets.
But, in addition, the forms of communication are merging and interchanging. The BBC website is crucial to the modern BBC. Papers have Podcasts and written material on the web. News is becoming increasingly a free good, provided online without charge. Realistically, these trends won't do anything other than intensify. These changes are obvious. But less obvious is their effect.
The news schedule is now 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. It moves in real time. Papers don't give you up to date news. That's already out there.
They have to break stories, try to lead the schedules. Or they give a commentary. And it all happens with outstanding speed. When I fought the 1997 election - just ten years ago - we took an issue a day. In 2005, we had to have one for the morning, another for the afternoon and by the evening the agenda had already moved on. You have to respond to stories also in real time.
Frequently the problem is as much assembling the facts as giving them. Make a mistake and you quickly transfer from drama into crisis. In the 1960s the government would sometimes, on a serious issue, have a Cabinet lasting two days.
It would be laughable to think you could do that now without the heavens falling in before lunch on the first day. Things harden within minutes. I mean you can't let speculation stay out there for longer than an instant.
I am going to say something that few people in public life will say, but most know is absolutely true: a vast aspect of our jobs today - outside of the really major decisions, as big as anything else - is coping with the media, its sheer scale, weight and constant hyperactivity.
At points, it literally overwhelms. Talk to senior people in virtually any walk of life today - business, military, public services, sport, even charities and voluntary organisations and they will tell you the same. People don't speak about it because, in the main, they are afraid to.
But it is true, nonetheless, and those who have been around long enough, will also say it has changed significantly in the past years. The danger is, however, that we then commit the same mistake as the media do with us: it's the fault of bad people.
My point is: it is not the people who have changed; it is the context within which they work. We devote reams of space to debating why there is so much cynicism about politics and public life. In this, the politicians are obliged to go into self flagellation, admitting it is all our fault.
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OFCOM regulate broadcasting, except for the BBC, which largely has its own system of regulation. But under the new European regulations all television streamed over the internet may be covered by OFCOM.
As the technology blurs the distinction between papers and television, it becomes increasingly irrational to have different systems of accountability based on technology that no longer can be differentiated in the old way.
How this is done is an open question and, of course, the distinction between balance required of broadcasters but not of papers remains valid. But at some point the system is going to change and the importance of accuracy will not diminish, whilst the freedom to comment remains.
It is sometimes said that the media is accountable daily through the choice of readers and viewers. That is true up to a point. But the reality is that the viewers or readers have no objective yardstick to measure what they are being told. In every other walk of life in our society that exercises power, there are external forms of accountability, not least through the media itself.
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Cheers,
B
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"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." Albert Einstein
Blair Calls For Chinese
Blair Calls For Chinese Style Net Controls In the UK
Declares war on "pernicious conspiracy theory" media coverage
Outgoing British Prime Minister Tony Blair has savaged online media today in a speech in which he declared war on the free press by hinting at new restrictions on internet journalism and suggested that the media should be brought more into line with the government.
Blair complained that the media was too "feral" (i.e. not tamed by the government) and referring to online journalism stated:
"In fact, the new forms can be even more pernicious, less balanced, more intent on the latest conspiracy theory multiplied by five."
This is an outright call for a crackdown on the free press. Blair is out in the open here saying the media is too independent of the government, he is admitting that the freedom with which the media, especially online, is now operating is hurting his government and its agenda.
Blair has recently been under the media microscope concerning the BAE cover up over Saudi arms dealing. Before that he was subject to scrutiny and twice questioned by police over the cash for honours scandal where peerages were handed out by the government in exchange for financial favours. No doubt these are the kind of "conspiracy theories" Mr Blair wishes the media to be unable to cover, along with the scores of lies he told in the lead up to the Iraq war.
Blair can whine and whine all day long but the fact is it is the openness with which his government has conducted its criminal actions and its own attempts to use the free press as a propaganda arm that has led to a surge in media scrutiny.
There is nothing he nor his elite masters can do to win this battle save shutting down the internet and free speech completely and risking revolution.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/120607Blair_media.htm
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
You have nothing to fear from a "conspiracy theory"...
unless you're guilty.
70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11
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http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.
Bin Laden 911 Innocent ?
John A MITCHELL
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Put the picture on a tee shirt if you dare
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6893/1985/1600/Bin_Laden_INNOCENT_v2....
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disposal of evidence
Has anyone tried to interview the guys that drove the trucks that hauled the debris away from ground zero? I haven't read anything about them. Seems like they might have some interesting info if any of them could be found and would speak. I have no idea how to find them, of course, but surely at least the names of the companies involved are known. License tag numbers in photos? Somewhere I read that the trucks were all suspiciously new and seemingly arranged for ahead of time, but I don't remember where (and I don't think there was any evidence of that given). The trail of the evidence disposal seems an under-evaluated part of the tale to me.
my understanding is they had mob ties
(friends of Giuliani's and Silverstein's?) and that the trucks had to be fitted with GPS trackers for "some reason"...
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A 9/11 Truther is railroaded to prison...
A friend of mine here in the Cincinnati area was sent (involuntarily) to a psychiatric ward because he believes 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! After that he was arrested for possession of firearms (that he had owned) which is illegal if you have been sent to a psychiatric ward. A CATCH-22. So Michael has been in prison from November 2006 and there he still remains. The psychologists and psychriatrists at the Federal Medical Center where he is being held want to force Michael to take antipsychotic drugs for his 'views' and in order to stand trial. Problem is... Mike Cook is NOT mentally ill. He is being railroaded to prison based on judicial ignorance and incompetence.
You can read about Michael's ordeal at: http://freedomisforeverybody.blogspot.com/2007/02/fwd-re-back-to-jail.html Also, you can follow Mike Cook's story at www.v911t.org and www.mujca.com.
The memorandum below was filed by Michael Cook's attorney on May 14, 2007. Michael is scheduled for a hearing on July 3, 2007 at 9:30 in the United States District Court Eastern District Of Kentucky. Michael will be present at the Kentucky hearing via video conferencing from his detention facility in Butner, North Carolina FEDERAL MEDICAL CENTER!!!
HERE'S WHAT MICHAEL COOK'S ATTORNEY SAYS ABOUT MIKE:
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MEMORANDUM
The Government has moved the Court to order the involuntary administration of antipsychotic medications to Michael Cook in an attempt to restore him to competency to stand trial. The record does not include any allegation that Michael is a danger to himself or others. To the contrary, the April 16, 2007 report provide to the Court by Drs. Cochrane and Herbal states that Michael resided in an open mental health unit, quickly adjusted to the routine, was never observed becoming confused or disoriented, was behaviorally stable, never exhibited any bizarre or disruptive behavior, did not violate any institutional rules, was never observed responding to internal stimuli (i.e. hallucinations), was routinely observed reading, socializing with his peers, and engaging in activities on the unit without incident. (April 26, 2007 Report of Drs. Cochrane and Herbal, page 4, 1st full paragraph). Michael simply maintains a view of certain historical events that is different from the majority of people. However, there are many books, articles, internet sites, DVD's, CDs, and movies that appear to indicate that Michael is not the only person that maintains this particular view. Other than this particular viewpoint, there does not appear to be any evidence of record that Michael is suffering from a mental illness.
The indictment in this matter alleges the mere possession of certain firearms. The types of firearms set forth in the indictment are the type normally possessed by individuals for sporting and collecting purposes. There are no allegations of any use of the firearms by Michael. The issue in this case is whether Michael should be forced to take medication against his will solely in an attempt to restore him competency to stand trial.
Michael Cook, through counsel respectfully requests the Court to deny the Government's Motion. Alternatively, an evidentiary hearing to address the the factors established in Sell v. United States, 539 U.S. 166, 179 (2003) is requested.
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If you know of anyone you know who may be able to help Mike Cook from being forcibly medicated and kept in a Federal Medical Center for another six months or much longer please contact me via email at: Cincy911Truth@hotmail.com
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"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow
Michael
This is a really sad situation. I've listened to a recorded phone call with Michael and he could be any one of us. But I found out that he was arrested for sending an email to a professor that B should be put before a firing squad. I wish he had just said he belonged before a criminal court. He was reported. We have to be really careful how much we say.
Michael is not ill, he is just angry and frustrated just like all of us. He has become interested in the Course in Miracles but they won't let him have any books or tapes.. My suggestion is we send him cards with a paragraph from the course as spiritual medicine for him. He is really trying to make the best of this situation. Very commendable.
http://www.acim.org/
A poor choice of words
Yes, Mike sent an email to the President of Northern Kentucky University (where Bush was to appear) saying that 'Bush would some day be shot for treason' (for his 9/11 crimes). So the NKU President forwarded the email to the Secret Service and they paid a visit to Mike. Mike agrees he used a very poor choice of words and should have said something like what you suggested. "Bush belongs in a criminal court". Once they learned of Mike's ownership of firearms this charade began.
"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow
Thank you so much for
Thank you so much for posting this information. It puts my situation in proper perspective.
BTW, this operation has similarities with what happened to the journalist who is also a cousin of Andrew Card. I cannot remember the woman's name, just it begins with an "L".
I can only imagine how many others they have stripped of freedom for exercising their 1st Amendment Right.
I heard that a new FEDERAL
I heard that a new FEDERAL law is about to be passed that makes it illegal for persons previously diagnosed as "mentally ill" to own firearms. I don't know the details, just heard this on NPR this afternoon. I don't own a gun anyway, but I worry that any gov't dissident will now be labeled "mentally ill" and arrested if they have guns, like this fellow. That pretty much removes the opposition, doesn't it?
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911 Mysteries needs help from YouTube & Google uploaders
"911 Mysteries" is looking for those who posted the video, in whole or in part, on YouTube or Google Video. Re-activation of the links (taken down by Rick Siegel) cannot be performed without the help of these individuals. If you posted "911 Mysteries" on Google or YouTube, please contact us at www.911WeKnow.com . We are especially looking for the person who uploaded the primary Google Video file which received over 2.5 million views.
Added sounds of explosions?
I've heard accusations that "Sofia" and the crew at 911 Mysteries has fabricated evidence including adding sounds of explosions that were not in the original footage. What is the story on this?
70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11
John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.
Beware of 911researchers.com and Rick Siegal
That site is run by Rick Siegal, who is engaged in an ongoing mud slinging attack against Sophia. I used to respect Rick Siegal, but not anymore. Rick has gone off the deep end and seems to be throwing outrageous accusations around in every direction against many good 9/11 researchers. I now consider him poisen for the 9/11 truth movement. It's kind of sad he has gone down this road. I'm not sure if it's his ego, or if he is intentionally trying to damage the movement.
A New Campaign to "Press for Truth"
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
Dear fellow 911 Press For Truth Patrons,
Congressman Dennis Kucinich has just announced that he will begin holding new hearings into 9/11 beginning in September because "the Commission Final Report... never resolved certain conflicts." The acclaimed film 9/11 Press For Truth details those conflicts like no other movie has, featuring five members of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee (the small group of victim's relatives who forced the creation of the 9/11 Commission), who revealed for the first time in the movie that "70% of our questions" were not answered by the Final Report.
In response to Kucinich's announcement, the makers of 9/11 Press For Truth are launching of a new campaign to bring about real answers for the September 11th families -- and a brand new web site at 911PressForTruth.com.
From August 3rd - 12th, a coalition of organizations will join forces to host "Answers For 9/11 Families" week. Hundreds of Americans will come together at house parties across the country to screen 9/11 Press For Truth, telling the powerful story of the September 11th families' continuing fight for answers.
Now, Please join the effort to encourage Congress to support Kucinich's investigation until all remaining Family Steering Committee questions are answered. Send a "Press For Truth Pack" to your Congressman and sign up today to host or attend a 9/11 Press For Truth house party in your community.
(NOTE: Simple instructions on how to make your house party film screening a success will be emailed to everyone who signs up to host a party. Please order your DVD immediately after signing up in order to ensure it arrives in time for your house party.)
"We thought the country was at risk from terrorists and from incompetence," says Jersey widow Lorie Van Auken in the movie, "and maybe worse." Fellow 'Jersey Girl' Patty Casazza puts it more succinctly: "They lied. They all lied." With an election year looming, it is more important than ever that we demand Congressional hearings that will finally provide the answers these families have devoted over five years of their lives toward.
Help make it happen. Send a "Press For Truth Pack" to your Congressman today. http://action.downsizedc.org/wyc.php?cid=74
And we hope you'll join us in August. Open your house to family, friends and neighbors - or join them at a house party nearby http://pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/ -- to watch this movie and support the Kucinich subcommittee investigation until all remaining Family Steering Committee questions are answered. Thank you so much for you support. Sincerely,
Ray Nowosielski, Director/Co-Writer/Co-Producer
9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH
www.northtexansfor911truth.com
This is significant
Joe, thanks for this message.
"With an election year looming, it is more important than ever that we demand Congressional hearings..."
Yep. Perfect time to get publicity on this. I hope most here join in.
Also...
Kucinich looks good to me. I sent him a contribution, with a note telling him my thoughts. He replied -- and I think it was he himself, and not just a staffer. In my note I mentioned the articles of impeachment that he submitted, and his proposed renewed 9-11-related hearings.
This stuff takes courage.
OMG!
What great unity/solidarity/info we have; such great comments.
I'm at work at can only think of 2 things I want to share:
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and spread/listen/bump truth music to support the artists and appeal to more people because music is universally appealing whether or not you like the songs:
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Keep up the great work! I've woken up all the people at my jobs today already while working on their computers. Peace!
What My Truth Group Is Doing
My Group, Ann Arbor for Truth and Freedom is holding a massive anti-mainstream media conference up in Ann Arbor, Michigan sometime in September. I can release all the details as of yet as they need to finalized but we will be featuring some well known speakers and some prominent 9/11 Truthers in this mix. For more information about this event as it comes available please see http://www.annarbor911truth.com or subscribe to our newsletter by e-mailing aa911truth@gmail.com.
Thanks,
PJ
Ann Arbor Truth and Freedom
http://www.annarbor911truth.com
DISINFO ALERT!!!
DISINFO ABOUT THE POST 9/11 PLANE CRASH IN QUEENS COMING UP NEXT ON THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL!!!! AT 6:30 OR 7:00 PM!!
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
I know this isn't relevant
I know this isn't relevant to what anyone here has said, but since it's an open forum, I'm just wondering why nothing about Kevin Barrett has been mentioned in a really long time. Any word on his whereabouts, his success/failure with finding the alleged hijacker, etc.? Why the silence on this as of late?
Kevin's latest email alert (6/9/07)
9/11 Truth Action Day this Monday
Friday is the day of rest for Muslims. Saturday is the day of rest for Jews. Sunday is the day of rest for Christians. Monday we all get back to work...for 9/11 truth! This Monday is June 11th—another 11th of every month 9/11 truth day of action:
http://www.mujca.com/eleventh.htm
INFLUENCING THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS FOR 911TRUTH
(For some inspiring examples, see http://www.911truthsquads.org) Great opportunity! Easy and fun to do! Here’s how: http://www.mujca.com/campaigns.htm
Vancouver Conference Coming Up, Barrie Zwicker on Truth Jihad Radio with Kevin Barrett Tonight
In the next two weeks Kevin Barrett will interview a long list of luminaries who will be appearing at the Vancouver 9/11 Truth Conference June 22-24 http://www.v911truth.org/conference2007.html
beginning with Barrie Zwicker, award-winning author of Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of 9/11. Kevin and Barrie will be on Truth Jihad Radio, 6-8 pm CT today, Saturday 6/9/07 at http://republicbroadcasting.org (Kevin will serve as emcee at the Vancouver 9/11 Conference...see you there!) Kevin’s upcoming radio guests include several Vancouver Conference speakers including: journalist Rowland Morgan, author of Flight 93 Revealed; novelist Hal Sisson, author of Modus Operandi 9/11, the only 9/11 book that’s almost as funny as Kevin’s own Truth Jihad; and Alfred Webre, author of the 9/11 Independent Prosecutor Act; and Connie Fogal, leader of the Canadian Action Party. Kevin’s other near-future radio guests include Richard Gage, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth; Sufi therapist Bill Whitehouse; and Gajendra Singh, former Indian ambassador to several nations, most recently Turkey. (And if that list isn’t enough for you, check out the Dyamic Duo show for last Monday, June 11th, when Kevin hosted an internationally famous rock star “mystery guest”...) For Kevin’s complete radio schedule, see http://mujca.com/airwaves.htm
Wag the DOG! Discontinuity of Government (DOG): An Idea Whose Time Has Come, and Then Some by Kevin Barrett
“...we need to institute clear, explicit Discontinuity of Government procedures spelling out exactly who, in the event of dire catastrophe, has the responsibility of hanging, shooting, gassing, and/or electrocuting Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz...”
http://www.mujca.com/wagthedog.htm
Is This Heaven? by Mike Palecek
http://www.mujca.com/palacek.htm Mike is a fine writer, a former political prisoner, sometime congressional candidate, a very brave and funny man and an all-around good guy. He recently gave the full 9/11 truth treatment to one of the deep-in-denial “alternative” radio hosts at Madison’s WORT-FM
June 8th Marks 40th Anniversary of USS Liberty Atrocity
It looks like Israel wasn’t the only, or even the main, culprit...more evidence that top US leaders cheerfully slaughter their own people in order to trigger the wars they want.
http://www.mujca.com/ussliberty.htm
These are just a few of the articles posted at http://mujca.com Great new articles go up every few days!
Kevin Barrett, http://mujca.com
Of Crazies, Neocons and the Enemy Within by Manuel Valenzuela
Of Crazies, Neocons and the Enemy Within
by Manuel Valenzuela
Beginnings
An all too familiar and ominous echo is reverberating through the American landscape, once more blasted into the airwaves, and our minds, through the Ministry of Propaganda and its merry bunch of sycophants and stenographers. For yet another consecutive year since three monolithic towers were demolished, imploded and systemically brought down onto their own footprints in a catalyzing event unleashing a new American century, Americans are hearing the fiery rhetoric of imminent danger, a cocktail of fear, terror and warmongering fed our enemy-addicted culture, aimed both at stirring conflict with Iran and conditioning our minds into accepting the coming attack on yet another Muslim nation that poses no threat to the mighty Empire.
For the Enemy Within is hard at work concocting the trigger-happy bogeyman Americans are always too eager to declare war upon, and they are working overtime, using their control of the print, radio and television media, to condition us into accepting their version of reality. Yes, the dreaded neocons are once more circling this nation like vultures, flying high above the dying carcass of freedom and democracy, ready to plunge down to Earth for a mighty feast. The reviled neocons, that plague that refuses to die, that pestilence that seemingly only increases in number, that nest of rats that lingers in our midst, is once more contorting truth and creating reality, once more beating the drums of war in continuation of their war song. The Enemy Within is softening us up, readying our minds, preparing us into accepting yet one more blitzkrieg of evil, criminality and mass murder.
If you are not disgusted at how this species of human being has hijacked America, how it has condemned a million people to their premature death, how it has turned the beacon of freedom into the gulag of criminality, how it has made mass murder, torture, rape and pillage acceptable, how it has made an entire nation hateful, xenophobic and jingoistic, how it has molded and conditioned an army of American authoritarians, then you have not been paying attention. If you are not reviled at the existence of this nest of cockroaches, and how, even after all the damage it has done to America and the Middle East it nonetheless remains alive and thriving, seemingly – and bewilderingly – given prominence, authority and visibility in the media, in spite of its perpetual stream of lies, incompetence and subversion of freedom, in spite of getting everything about Iraq wrong, then you have not understood the real and severe threat of the neocon element to America, and the world.
Deeply entrenched within the corridors of power, infesting the Department of War, the Department of State, the Department of Justice, the Congress and the White House, and firmly, and clandestinely, embedded throughout the corporatist media, the Enemy Within, it can safely be said, has hijacked America, taking her hostage, occupying her capital, unleashing an incessant barrage of psychological warfare against the American people. Neocon nests, those putrid think tanks and lobbying offices where delusion and deception thrive, are clustered throughout Washington, having acronyms all too familiar to those still living in truth and reality.
The neocon infrastructure is powerful and massive, financed by moneyed and influential people, supported by modern day little Sparta, that American financed welfare state, that encircled Bantustan of imported European Zionists hunkered down among an ocean of native Arabs, possessing all necessary machinations to concoct enemies, the deceptions to create and unleash wars, the scruples to divide and conquer, and the media tools to brainwash and condition millions of human beings. The neocon machine prevents truth from ever seeing light, reality from ever surfacing, debate from ever existing and dissidents from ever having a voice. Instead, the neocon big lie is allowed to be repeated countless times, their deceptions and distortions are granted the aura of reality, and their propaganda is allowed to thrive, and spread.
The card carrying member of the neocon community has instant access to the airwaves, to op-ed articles and editorial opinion. The neocon talking points grace front page headlines and the opinions of news anchors and reporters. These same talking points are given preeminence and are never questioned or challenged. Neocon talking heads, representatives, hacks and lackeys have an always open invitation, in spite of the disaster they have created for America in Iraq, to appear on television news shows to spew their venomous rhetoric and talking points. Neocons are sent in droves, upon commands from on high, to appear in the always friendly corporatist media, as always spewing lies and deceptions when propaganda needs to be delivered, when fear needs to grow or when hatred needs to find new hosts.
Staying on message, the big lie is repeated over and over by this army of manipulators, attacking the airwaves, and thus our brains, in a constant stream of appearances, offering a multitude of faces, and voice tones. Treated as experts and opinion makers, when in fact they are but ignorant, ideological and delusional Machiavelli’s, this legion of propagandists is given free rein to saturate both televised and written media with their talking points. They appear as “guests” on news shows, making the rounds, regurgitating the message their group wants disseminated, never being challenged, always having a loudspeaker from which to reach the citizenry.
Without merit, these operatives are placed as opinion writers, reporters and editors in America’s most influential magazines and newspapers, free to manipulate and condition the minds of readers, free to shift the nation’s discourse in a particular direction. Hired and promoted, even after being wrong or delusional about nearly everything they have ever said or written about, these enemies of the people are nonetheless still given a voice and a bully pulpit from where to manipulate millions of readers.
Even when one thinks the neocons have been discredited thanks to the myriad number of pathetic mistakes they have made, even when one thinks their opinions have made them clowns, even when they are the laughingstock to those aware of their incompetence and delusion, they are still prominently displayed on our monitors, magazines and newspapers. Somehow, after so many errors, after so many disasters, they still remain to unleash more damage, shaping the nation’s opinion, setting its direction, pushing policy and as always, steering the nation towards war. This reality has not changed since 9/11, which should be a clear indication that the corporatist media is a full collaborator and partner in the neocon agenda. The Enemy Within is deeply entrenched in the corporatist media, and this should never be forgotten.
Playbook
Using the same recipe that launched the false Iraq WMD fear and terror marketing campaign, the same audacity that gave birth to the official and highly fictional 9/11 conspiracy theory, recycling the same cast of neocon characters for years warning us of the imminent and perpetual Arab danger, the warmongers in power are slowly, yet surely, prepping the American people into accepting a new act of preemptive, and illegal, aggression. For the Enemy Within knows that the American people will voluntarily remain ignorant of whatever enemy is chosen for them, never wanting to use reason and logic and critical thinking or common sense, always believing the lies and deceptions of the state and its vast propaganda machine, always eager to believe the myths and fictions spouted by criminals and murderers. Indeed, manipulating the American mind is like taking candy from a baby. At no time has the American mind been more fragile, ignorant and ripe for the picking.
Under ceaseless assault since the false flag operation of 9/11, the collective American mind is in deep psychosis, unable to escape the cloud of fear and terror thrust upon us by the neocon cabal in power. The catalyzing event of 9/11, methodically executed by warmongers and crazed zealots, was orchestrated with the intent of birthing a new American century, one in which the Pax Americana would thrive, unparalleled in power, reigning as the new Rome, unrivaled among the brotherhood of nations. It would merge the interests of little apartheid Sparta with those of America, forever cementing ties born through deception, for now the American people would also be confronted with the “evildoer” Arab horde, conveniently having as new enemy the same peoples whose oil we coveted and were addicted to, the same peoples whom little apartheid Sparta hated and detested.
The inside job of 9/11 would unleash a Long War, the so-called War on Terror, as much a fictional fantasy as any war concocted by Hollywood. Without the dreaded Soviet to scapegoat, to distract from internal strife, to use as excuse to enrich the military-industrial complex, a new enemy had to be manufactured, one that, unlike the Soviet Communist, was ambiguous, hidden, alien, an enigma, free of borders, national constraints and political handcuffs. Free to create any enemy out of thin air, the marketers of fear, for that is what the creators of enemies are, decided that the American populace needed a bogeyman unlike any ever devised, one free to roam beyond borders, lurking in dark alleys, independent of a nation that could, just like the Soviet Union, dissolve due to internal incompetence or political strife.
While the Soviet enemy remained known, even familiar to average Americans through European-like skin color and facial features, an appearance that seemed close to home, its culture and ethnicity unable to be dehumanized and made sub-human by the state’s propagandists, both essential elements in conditioning the populace into accepting destruction and murder of the enemy, the newly minted enemy, the Arab bogeyman, faced no such obstacles. Indeed, years of conditioning by Hollywood vilifying Arabs had jumpstarted the American hatred of the Islamic culture, even before 9/11, planting the seeds of hatred and xenophobia that would fully sprout on the day catalyzing events unleashed a new American century and Americans were introduced to the dreaded Arab terrorist.
The dreaded Arab bogeyman, concocted as terrorist through years of state sponsored propaganda and manipulation, only fed into the historical hatred of people of color by xenophobic majorities. The decimation of tens of millions of Native Americans, their condemnation into hellholes called reservations, the prolonged enslavement of Africans, the decimation of Filipinos, Koreans and Vietnamese in Asia, the wars of aggression and senseless mass murder against Latin Americans spanning decades, the still prevalent racism against African Americans and Latinos, condemning most to lifelong imprisonment and abandonment in urban ghettos, and the recent jingoism and bigotry exhibited against Hispanic immigrants – nothing more than America’s new slave class – by a new generation of No Nothings are but a few examples of a time honored tradition of indifference, racism and hatred of peoples not possessing the characteristics of European lineage, of white Anglo-Saxon tradition. The Arab culture, then, would be treated no different.
A new scapegoat had been chosen, one alien and fear-inducing, for fear of the unknown is the greatest fear in the human condition. All that was needed to foment the fusion of alien dark skinned Arab with terrorism in the minds of the people would be a catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor, that would cement a hatred and anger never before seen on American shores, one that would blind and make fearful entire segments of the population. Of course the chosen patsies would perform the tasks assigned to them, oblivious to the eternal fame they would garner. Molded and nurtured, observed and guided, these patsies would become the face of evil incarnate, with the modern day Emmanuel Goldstein, Osama bin Laden, striking fear and terror in the minds of Americans.
It would be the events of 9/11 that would firmly, and permanently, transfix Al-Qaeda into the imaginations of 300 million Americans, striking fear and a Pavlovian induced schizophrenia into the populace with every pronouncement of its title. Blinded by fear, made devoid of reason and logic through the manipulations of terror, the American people would follow lies and deceptions without question; they would obey and become subservient to the dictates of the neocon ideology; they would take as truth and reality the fictions and charades offered by the state and the corporatist media.
It would be 9/11 that would forever alter the course of American history, along with the psyches of her people, becoming an untouchable, almost religious myth whose original story was sacrosanct, an untouchable story no matter how unrealistic it was. Of course, 9/11 became a most fortuitous event to several entities, benefiting, first and foremost, the military-industrial-energy complex, desperately in search of an enemy and a region to exploit, as well as those seeking American hegemony around the globe, and fitting perfectly with the master plans of the Likudnik neocons and their Project for a New American Century. Thanks to 9/11, America had her new enemy, one evolved to suit the best interests of America’s warmongering class, one designed as a failsafe entity that could be counted on, in relative confidence, for a perpetual stream of conflict, war, destruction, hegemony, profit and power.
Al-Qaeda, born and reared by America’s clandestine services, having evolved from Afghan freedom fighters battling the Soviet Union to evil incarnate after 9/11, a product of ceaseless marketing and constant manipulation of fragile and vulnerable psyches, would be the face of America’s new enemy, one without borders, politicians, standing armies and capitals, a bogeyman hidden and secretive, free to appear anywhere on the planet, alien and ambiguous, a mole popping up exactly where it was, and is, needed most. In short, al-Qaeda is the perfect enemy for America, capable of sprouting like a weed wherever and whenever America needed a place to attack, invade, conquer and pillage. Used as the perfect excuse by which to attack sovereign nations, labeling fighters or insurgents Al-Qaeda acts both as cover for the advancement of Empire and as the marketing ploy used to smear and label legitimate peoples’ movements fighting the criminality of the Empire itself.
When marketed to the American people by the propaganda of the state and the corporatist media, resistance fighters such as those in Iraq struggling to rid their lands and homes of the imperial overreach of the Empire become sub-human enemies whose death is accepted and indeed sought by the citizenry. When the Pavlovian term “Al-Qaeda” is ushered, all semblance of common sense and reason is lost upon the populace of the Empire, who has been trained to fear and hate when the utterance of the evildoers is mentioned. Designed to dehumanize valid resistance and freedom movements, the people of the Empire will thus only see terrorists and criminality when reality offers a different portrait. Such is the power of the label Al-Qaeda that it immediately makes terrorists of those fighting the evil and terrorism of the Empire itself. It validates and indeed obscures the high levels of state sponsored terrorism of the Empire. Such is the genius of those who concoct enemies for a living.
Make no mistake, 9/11 was a declaration of war upon the American people by the Enemy Within, acting as the first strike in a psychological war aimed at our emotions. A new Pearl Harbor was needed to unleash invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan and eventually Iran, opening up new imperial hegemony. Freedoms and rights had to be eviscerated, the better to control the citizenry, the better to take advantage of technological innovations that would facilitate an omnipresent police state. Solidarity with little Sparta had to be increased, both to take worldwide pressure off its Nazi like treatment of Palestinians and to join at the hip two nations that were now seen to fight the same fight. Only two powers could dominate the Middle East, and with America establishing a permanent presence, with its military fomenting civil war between the region’s Sunni and Shia, following the old adage of divide and conquer, little Sparta could become the preeminent power in the region, its rivals destroyed and weakened, its threats curtailed and its hegemony growing.
Carefully planned and orchestrated, 9/11 and its myth, most of which was disseminated in the hours after the tragic events, with pieces of the still smoldering puzzle miraculously being put together at the speed of light, was designed as the new Pearl Harbor needed to militarize the citizenry into supporting the invasions and occupations of Middle East nations. In that sense, 9/11 was an event staged specifically to manipulate the emotions and psychology of the American people in the expectation that we would march lock step with the warmongering aspirations of the state. Its tragedy was calculated more as a shock to the psyche than as an act of war; its horrors were needed to act as conduit between calls for revenge, hatred of the Muslim world, and acquiescence to pre-9/11 invasion plans.
We the People were the targets on that day, not the state and certainly not our elected leaders. It was We the People that were the intended victims, not our freedoms or our way of life, not our happiness nor our comfortable lifestyles. Our minds were the ultimate prize, which is why the towers had to be demolished in such violent fashion, why the controlled demolitions were covered from every conceivable angle, to be played and replayed countless times, until they were seared into our memory, into our psyche, so that we would forever be victims of fear and terror manipulations, so that we would forever acknowledge and assist the military-industrial-energy complex in its quest for global hegemony.
For the neocons, two enormous towers and 3,000 human beings were an easy sacrifice compared to the dividends the Project for the New American Century would get in return. Two towers in a metropolis full of skyscrapers, along with 3,000 Americans out of 300 million, were simply the collateral damage needed to fulfill Rebuilding America’s Defenses. Thus, a New Pearl Harbor took place on 9/11, ushering in a new American Century, just as the neocons had predicted, just as they had fortuitously envisioned. Using the power of the corporatist media and its battalions of propagandists, the psychological war against the American people, with 9/11 as catalyst, was only beginning.
In the years that followed the manipulation of emotions to extract long-sought rewards and objectives would intensify, as would the subversion of freedoms, rights and liberties in the name of promising security to fragile and maimed American psyches. America’s real enemy, that which resides within, was about to unleash a barrage of fear and terror mongering the likes of which no people have ever encountered, in furtherance of the war against the American people, a war unlike any other, a war for our minds and psychology, against the very freedoms, rights and democracy we so cherish. For what manufactured terrorists could never take away, homegrown terrorists were slowly, yet surely, making extinct.
Cabal of Criminality
Democracy and freedom has never been of much importance to the neocon vultures, even as they spew these virtues as sacred dogma. Of course, what neocons say, and what they do, are almost always at odds with each other. They are experts at extolling the virtues of the grand lie, of lying pathologically to the people for the people’s supposed own good. Government secrecy is a hallmark of the neocons, a reality the world has seen since 2001. Keeping secrets and telling a constant stream of lies has defined the neocon administration of George W. Bush.
It is interesting that while they talk of democracy and freedom, they try to destroy both, abroad and at home. These vermin stand for Machiavelli-style rule, being comforted more by authoritarian governance than pure democracy. Indeed, democracy is anathema to their ideology, for they do not believe the masses can correctly govern themselves. Therefore, leaders possessing dictatorial powers must be created, the better to serve the interests of the neocon belief system. In fact, the stolen election of 2000, in the state of Florida, was a direct consequence of neocon planning and implementation, the first domino to fall in pursuit of their new American century. The ascension of Bush to the throne, a man who had promised them Iraq on a silver platter if elected, was of paramount importance. He was also a willing participant and firm believer in Rebuilding America’s Defenses. Once immediately safely selected to the throne, in fact, he began implementing its highly militarized and unilateral policies.
Knowing the final outcome, and triumph, of the 2000 election would inevitably come down to Florida, all machinations needed to steal the election were implemented, showcasing a disregard for the will of the people and democracy in pursuit of absolute power. Florida 2000 was the catalyst the neocons needed to begin altering the face of American governance and her role in the world. Everything that was to come hinged on the election in Florida, hence the audacity and the purposefulness seen in completely subverting American democracy. One day, it will be Florida 2000, along with 9/11, that will be studied, analyzed and seen for the history altering event that it was, becoming recognized as the first salvo in a war against the American people, the key that unlocked the gates of Hades upon the world. Without Florida 2000, history, and 21st century reality, would have perhaps never become familiar with the neocons and their demented and delusional ideology.
Thrust into power in 2001, an administration saturated with neocons in the Departments of War, Justice, State and the White House set about to alter the system of checks and balances and to begin implementing, step by militarized step, the blueprint called Rebuilding America’s Defenses. Once deeply ensconced inside the halls of power, once comfortable with the methods and systems of governance, once confident in their control and mastery over the state’s apparatus, once they had fully hijacked the government of the United States of America, they could finally implement the catalyzing event they so desperately wanted, and needed.
With their dirty and criminal hands at the helm of every strategic department and office, especially within the Department of War and the Office of the Vice President, a new Pearl Harbor was ready to be born, conceived through distracting war games and drills, allowed to breathe life through systematic planning and confusion. Possessing absolute power, becoming the hand guiding the American puppet, with the corporatist media as collaborators, the cabal of criminality declared war upon every American. On September 11, 2001, America’s worst and most heinous crime was perpetrated, along with her greatest criminal cover up. The 9/11 Commission Report would only cement the cover up, with yet one more neocon assigned to make sure a whitewash occurred.
After 9/11 the nest of vultures embedded in the Pentagon and the Office of the Vice President began manufacturing war, first in Afghanistan and later, much more famously, in Iraq. Today it is widely known the severity by which the Office of Special Plans manufactured and devised the lies that led to war, piping only information that would push the neocon agenda directly to the top, thereby bypassing career analysts and experts. Today it is widely known the lies told repeatedly to guide us into war, with warnings of mushroom clouds and WMD. That the neocon establishment led us into a war of choice, based on lies, deceptions and delusions, is not in question. Indeed, these architects of the Iraq War should never be allowed to forget that they involved America in the greatest strategic disaster in her history.
That the neocon establishment lied us into an immoral and illegal preemptive war, based on lies and fictions they knew to be false, in order to secure Empire’s petroleum and beachhead, not to mention Israel’s security, demands that these individuals be seen for what they really are: war criminals, surely guilty of crimes against humanity, fully responsible for the death of one million Iraqis, thousands of Afghanis, and 6,500 Americans. War criminals tried since World War II have been sentenced to death on far less heinous and egregious crimes.
To say the neocons should be sitting at The Hague, rotting away their existence, contemplating their crimes in perpetuity, locked away for centuries so they can no longer inflict carnage and evil on our world, is an understatement. These individuals, this cabal of criminality, those visible and clandestine in government, business and the media, those responsible for 9/11 and the Iraq War, from the architects to the propagandists, should be facing war crime charges in both New York City and Baghdad, forced to face trial for the human wickedness they have engendered.
In a more perfect world, they would be. In this world, unfortunately, they are promoted, rewarded, saluted and allowed to ride into the sunset, free to corrupt young minds, continue living in freedom, profiteering from their opinions and wreaking havoc upon the peoples of Earth. In a more perfect world, one different than the one we presently inhabit, there would be justice for all those murdered and maimed in pursuit of blatant ignorance, psychotic delusion and deranged ideology.
Project Iran
Instead, the terrorists living among us, the elements we call neocons, with their vast control of American government and media, and by consequence control over our lives, continue expanding their power and their pursuit of further decadence. Not content to dwell as history’s greatest fools, they maintain a course of further escalation in Iraq, still thinking possible a victory that will never arrive and a delusion that will never become reality. Delusion and denial being a neocon characteristic, they think further military action, this time against Iran, will salvage victory from the throes of defeat, giving America the birth pangs of triumph from the calamity of debacle and quagmire.
Enraptured by their longtime hatred of Iran and its supposed threat to Israeli hegemony, the neocon element has once more gone on a fairy tale adventure, this time by trying to get America to do Israel’s bidding. The same playbook once used to cajole us into the Iraq debacle has been taken out of the closet, wiped free of dust, and implemented throughout the neocon world. This time, however, the neocon infestation is less prevalent in government, so they must resort to their nests in think tanks and lobbying offices, along with their vast power in the corporatist media, to sell, convince, connive and foment a war between Iran and America. With so many people in government aware of their constant malfeasance, however, the road to warmonger heaven has been a bit more difficult.
This explains why the corporatist media, doing the bidding of Israeli interests, has become a major player in the Iran propaganda campaign. Without the Office of Special Plans, with many military personnel aware of the techniques of the “crazies”, with deeper scrutiny by the public and America’s intelligence agencies, and with many officials aware of the consequences of a war with Iran, the neocons have had to bombard the airwaves with the lies, deceptions and manipulations needed to once again bamboozle the Empire into a war of choice.
It is from inside the corporatist media, with help from neocon think tanks and Israeli interests, where the propaganda is in full swing, where neocons are given an open microphone, a camera to look at, and where the interests of the state of Israel are given credence. It is from the inner doings of the corporatist media where war with Iran is being conditioned into our minds, for the Enemy Within knows it has less than two years left to destroy its hegemonic rival.
Sensing desperation that Iran has yet to be attacked, thanks in large measure to the disaster unfolding in Iraq, the neocons may yet resort to desperate measures, perhaps even another false flag operation blamed on Al-Qaeda, working for Iran, which would again become a catalyzing event unfolding yet another new Pearl Harbor. When dealing with psychotics of this nature, nothing should be discounted, and nothing should be left to chance.
As always emanating from the mouths of America’s most vile criminal element and terrorists extraordinaire, better known as the neoconservatives, the false alarms and war trumpets now being heard are part of a careful and methodical campaign of psychological warfare against the American people. A continuance of the psychological operation launched against America on 9/11, that catalyzing event granting New Pearl Harbors life and a New American Century sustenance, the latest act of manipulation is designed to make evildoers of the Iranian people, turning Iran into a scapegoat for the disaster unfolding in Iraq.
Such is the debacle in Iraq, created by the delusions, complete ignorance and gross incompetence of the neocons that, since American exceptionalism prevents America from ever making mistakes, being outwitted or admitting defeat, an easy scapegoat must be fomented to take the blame for the greatest strategic disaster in American foreign policy. Enter the puppet Iraq government and Iran, two easy targets offered up as the sacrificial lamb to a perpetually ignorant, delusional and completely devolving populace that would much sooner believe outside forces were to blame for the inevitable defeat than realize that the myths of American grandeur are nothing but the fairy tale propaganda of a corporatist state.
Almost on a daily basis, this group of terrorists, for no other word can best describe the neocons, is systematically cementing into the American conscious the idea of attacking and bombing Iran, a nation that poses no military threat to America, under the rubric of terrorism, mushroom clouds and Hitler-like evil, thereby extending forward a fictional war on terror along with an already disastrous debacle in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Once more a Muslim nation is about to be attacked, as always following the blueprint of the neocon Mein Kampf, Rebuilding America’s Defenses. More and more Iran is being blamed for arming the Iraqi – and now Afghan – resistance, training its fighters and financing its activities. That no proof has yet to appear, even among a barrage of accusations, should give one pause as to the validity of such asinine propaganda and should leave no doubt in whose hands the corporatist media lies.
For the neocons, a group of Christian and Jewish Zionists, most with strong ties to the Israeli right-wing Likud Party, embedded throughout the halls of governance, business and the corporatist media, hate Persians, Arabs and Muslims with a passion only seen in xenophobic psychopaths. Their contempt for the peoples of the Middle East has become apparent in their actions and writings, their beliefs and hypocrisy, and in their defense of the Nazi-like treatment of Arabs by apartheid Israel, . It is this hatred that they hope to embed into America’s citizenry, enough that we think of Arabs as subhuman animals, and is therefore the reason for the saturation of the airwaves with anti-Arab, Persian and Muslim propaganda, designed to engender hatred and feelings of xenophobia against the non-European people of the Middle East. This manipulation, of course, has not relented since the immediate aftermath of 9/11.
These architects of New Pearl Harbors, fictional wars on terror and the Iraq War, names all too familiar within the reality of those who chose to pay attention and stay informed, have set their targets on another Islamic nation, now that Iraq is in disarray, as always pursuing the interests both of the so-called New American Century as well as those of Mother Israel. On both sides of the imaginary and nonexistent aisle, inside the bowels of political duopoly and the two headed hydra, where political prostitutes are allowed to roam free, as always paying homage to the hand that rocks the cradle, the shrieks of war are therefore getting louder, for the sugar daddy to Washington’s politicians has arrived to collect on dues and debt once paid.
From these charlatans and miscreants we somehow always chose to elect the war cries and the drums of war are growing in strength, for the time of preemptive criminality is almost upon us. For they have been given their marching orders from on high, where the high priests of war convene, where criminals and murderers congregate, and slowly their cohorts in the media are conditioning America to the inevitability of continuing war crimes and crimes upon humanity on Muslim lands.
Iran has been selected for destruction, becoming the prize of prizes, the ultimate reward in pursuit of a Project for a New American Century. The cries desperate for an attack on Iran are palpable, coming from all neocon nests and perching trees. The call to use nuclear weapons against the Persian state is also resounding loudly, becoming both an ominous declaration of neocon intentions and a warning to the world entire of ignoring and not halting the delusional cries of the crazies.
As expected, and predicted, the delusional Machiavelli’s we know as the neocons have increased their level of vitriol against Iran, in conjunction both with the coordinated propaganda campaign begun by their masters in Tel Aviv as well as through the perpetual dissemination of such manipulations by their stenographers and lackeys in the corporatist media. For the days are fast approaching, and all preparations must be made, before those living in delusion unleash their latest, and greatest, military blunder.
Ending the Occupation of America
We in America must be vigilant, for a poisonous snake cornered is at its most dangerous. Time is running out on the neocon element, which, sensing desperation, and the ticking sound of time, might resort to reenacting its greatest triumph, the manufacturing of new Pearl Harbors on American soil, sacrificing American lives in pursuit of Israeli interests, making thousands of citizens the collateral damage needed to attack Iran.
The Enemy Within lives among us, occupying our capital, owning our elected officials, saturating our airwaves, manipulating our minds, polluting our society. The Enemy Within is the only entity we must fear, for it is psychotic and delusional, criminal and devoid of scruples, ready at a moment’s notice to kill in the name of a new American Century, in the name of A Clean Break. The Enemy Within is our greatest threat, both to life and freedom, to limb and democracy, lingering in our midst, two faced and corrupt, pursuing the interests of militarization and those of little Sparta, trying to ensure hegemony for the Zionist ghetto, trying to establish proxy wars fought by the Empire in the interests of the dog’s tail.
The Enemy Within is the terrorist organization we must fear most, and fight against, declaring our own war on terror, our own fight against extremism and criminality. Our nation has been hijacked, dispossessed of its reputation and its treasure, her sons and daughters dying in the interests of corporatism and Empire, maimed due to delusion and ego. America lives under occupation, our freedoms and rights and liberties being made extinct by Machiavelli pretenders. A welfare state in the Middle East controls our elected officials, dictating policy that directly contradicts our own interests.
We are being transformed by the tools of the neocon element into a nation of xenophobic bigots, slowly being bred to hate scapegoats and concocted enemies. Our corporatist media has become the Department of Propaganda, a Ministry of Truth where reality is manufactured and truth sequestered, hidden in the deep dark recesses of censured stories and stifled dissent. Only the propaganda beneficial to the Enemy Within is allowed to grace our monitors and our newspapers; only the stories and individuals pushing for war are ever seen or heard. America is occupied, her capital hijacked by a malevolent cabal of criminality, caring only to perpetuate a war against the Arab world through action and reaction, eye for an eye, and inevitable blowback.
It is up to Americans, in valid resistance to authoritarian tendencies, to stop the crazies from unleashing hell on Iran and the Middle East. It is up to us to stop them before another Pearl Harbor strikes one of our cities, killing hundreds or thousands of our brothers and sisters. It is up to us, true patriots of the republic, to finally expel the occupiers from our land, thereby restoring a nation that has much to offer the world, perhaps finally becoming a beacon of light upon a city on a hill, surpassing even the myths of American state-sponsored propaganda. The real war on terror must begin, for the neocon terrorists must be thrown in the gulag they have created for the world.
If you are repulsed with the neocon plague afflicting our country, if you are tired of the warmongering and the manipulations, of the lies and profiteering, of elected representatives listening to foreign agents and not native citizens, if you are ready to put Americans’ interest first, second and third, and those of little welfare state Sparta in the dustbin of history, then get ready to confront the occupiers and hijackers, never letting them rest, never letting them speak or be seen publicly without being confronted with a litany of their crimes.
If the courts will not try them, then we must. If the media will not expose them, then we will. If the state will not prosecute them, then we should. If their peers will not shame them, then we most definitely will. Karma and justice should follow these crazies and criminals wherever they go, wherever they appear. If America no longer suits them thanks to our actions, then they are welcome to move elsewhere. We do not want them in our nation anymore. They are not welcome, for they have brought nothing but war, death, destruction, fear, terror, decadence and manipulations.
Peaceful resistance must commence, the occupation of America must end, the neocon reign must be extinguished and the crazies roaming our streets must never be allowed to hijack our country again.
Manuel Valenzuela is a social critic, commentator, Internet essayist and author of Echoes in the Wind, a novel now published by Authorhouse.com. His essays appear regularly at various alternative news websites from around the globe. Mr. Valenzuela welcomes comments and can be reached at manuel [at] valenzuelas [dot] net He encourages readers to surf the collection of over 100 essays he has written which can be found visiting his archives and by searching the Internet. His next book, Beyond the Smoking Mirror: Reflections on America and Humanity, a collection of his essays, will be published in early 2007.
www.northtexansfor911truth.com
interview of 'perps' 911
About four months ago, I saw a google video of some media interviews conducted on 911, right by the towers. The narrator claimed that the behaviour of the interviewees looked guilty, almost as if they had a cover story pre-planned. The interviewees were in white trucks. I've been looking on the web since but cant find it
Anyone else remember this video?? Anyone know what it was called?? Anyone know where to find it now??
The 911 Solution (see if this is what you seek)
The 911 Solution
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/92.html
www.northtexansfor911truth.com
cheers
Thanks Joe, but thats not the one.
Does anyone know of this?
During the Q&A session of Richard Gage's presentation on the collapse of the WTC, a woman mentions a clip from the footage of Jules and Naudet where the police captain or someone else in a similar position is strangely staring at the photographer as the towers are attacked by one of the planes -- or something like that. Does anyone know what clip she's referring to?
This is right before the first hit --
The crew from the firehouse goes out to investigate a gas leak (which just happens to put them in the BEST possible place to get footage of the North Tower impact.) It's Lieutenant (?) Joseph Pfeifer who is looking at the camera while other heads are swiveling toward the noise of the plane. Frankly, I think he might just be having a harder time than the others with pinning down the direction of the source of the noise -- I'm not sold on the "deliberately looking away" argument. However, I highly recommend watching the Naudet Brothers' film with a copy of the serendipity article on the funny coincidences in front of you and the remote control in hand.
Cameron seems to be trying pretty hard for that job.......
Tory leader calls himself 'Zionist'
Assaf Uni and Amiram Barkat
Haaretz
Thursday June 14, 2007
The leader of Britain's Conservative party, David Cameron, called himself a "Zionist" Tuesday as he slammed a British initiative for an academic boycott against Israel.
Cameron, responding to questions at the annual luncheon of Conservative Friends of Israel, said the academic boycott was completely uncalled for, and that attacks against Israel often slid into anti-Semitism.
"If by Zionist you mean that the Jews have the right to a homeland in Israel and the right to a country then I am a Zionist," the Tory leader said, adding that support for Israel is "in the DNA" of members of his party.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/140607Tory.htm
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
less teaser, more trailer
I hope we get a full trailer for Final Cut soon....September fast approacheth
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Morgantown 9/11 Truth
The Eleventh Day of Every Month
Bob Bowman TONIGHT in Santa Cruz, CA
The Patriots Tour - Bob Bowman in Santa Cruz, CA
Imagine a united America with a government that follows the Constitution, honors the truth, and serves the people. On Flag Day, Thursday, June 14th, Dr. Bob Bowman is bringing conservatives and liberals together in common cause to “Take Back America”! Dr. Bowman was President of the Institute for Space and Security Studies, flew 101 combat missions as a fighter pilot in Vietnam, has been a recipient of numerous awards in the fields of peace, military merit, aviation, and public service, is retired Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church, and was Democratic candidate for US Congress in Florida in 2006. Dr. Bowman is currently working to expose the 9/11 cover up, end the occupation of Iraq, prevent an attack on Iran, and impeach Cheney and Bush. Join us for this educational and inspiring presentation by one of the country’s foremost authorities on national security.
Where: University Inn & Conference Center, 611 Ocean Street, Santa Cruz .
When: FLAG DAY, Thurs, June 14, 2007. Doors at 6pm, Starts 7pm.
Cost: $15 door / $10 adv / $5 with student or senior ID. No one turned away. Advanced tickets available at Streetlight Records, Santa Cruz, ph. 831-421-9200.
For more information call 831-477-4556 or email santacruz911truth@yahoo.com. For information on the national Patriots Tour visit www.thepatriots.us online. Presented by Santa Cruz 9/11 Truth.
Just saw SiCKO
I have to say, the last part with 9/11 first responders taking the trip to Cuba was just heartbreaking.
One woman needed inhalers that cost $120 in the US, and in Cuba the cost five cents. FIVE CENTS.
Even though Im not a very much a fan of Michael Moore, Id say he certainly deserves props for this. The first responder issue, after dipping its toes into the mainstream on the View, is about to explode into public consciousness.
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Morgantown 9/11 Truth
The Eleventh Day of Every Month
Babawawa gets Truth Squaded
http://www.justin.tv/parrisharris/2512 Only need to watch the first minute and a half of the clip. (Tip: She's wearing red.) Pretty funny. From today's dedication of her star on Hollywood Blvd. Anyone know how to edit / embed this video? Save for posterity?
Barbara Walters was honored with a star on Hollywood Blvd. today, June 14, 2007. Her co-hosts from The View, Elisabeth Hasselbeck and Joy Behar were there, and I wanted to make sure that Rosie O'Donnell made an appearance also. I had a very short notice on this one. I put out the call and I packed up a few Rosie the Riveter, 9/11 Truth Now signs and headed off to the Kodak Theatre. It didn't look like I was going to have a partner to possibly take video.
I got there in time to get right up to the barricades, and Johnny Grant, Honorary Mayor of Hollywood, said the ceremony would start promptly at 11:30, so I kept my sign down until then. I watched as alot of high profile guests arrived. Chief of Police, William J. Bratton, City Council members Tom LaBonge and Eric Garcetti. Then the celebs started to show. Joy and Elisabeth, Exec. Producer of The View, Bill Geddes, even former CEO of Disney, Michael Eisner. Also in attendance were Kathy and Nicky Hilton and Rob Reiner. Probably many others, including a soap star that I did not recognize.
When Barbara Walters entered the pen, I raised my Rosie sign, turning it from time to time to the 9/11 Truth Now side. Every one of these people got a good look at it throughout the ceremony, and it should have been on camera a few times too. I was relieved that Chief Bratton did not send someone over to snatch it from me. The funniest thing was the reactions from The View stars, Elisabeth and Joy. Elisabeth looked at the Rosie graphic several times and got a good laugh out of it. Joy smiled too, but I think they were both afraid of getting too close and having their pictures taken with that in the background.
Before the actual ceremony started, I was joined by Gustavo from World Can't Wait, and I gave him a couple signs to hold. When it was about over, the crowd had thinned out and Barbara was the last to leave with her entourage. I thought she might come over to sign some autographs, so I moved a little closer, and sure enough, she walked right over to me, before all the photogs crowded around. I put my Rosie sign out to where she could sign it easily, but one of her assistants apparently whispered to her, not to sign it. So, I asked her: Barbara, are you going to do an investigative report about what really happened on 9/11 and Bldg. 7? She did not answer the question and was hurried away (you can see her in red).
I had done a little interview about 9/11 earlier with fashion reporter Parris Harris, and I did not realize until I go home that he had recorded the Babawawa encounter.
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
Ballooned message
ok, I don't know if this is a crazy idea, but it might work:
Roughly, you make a huge sign in fabric with your message (911 was an inside job), then you attach the sides to helium balloons, and let it go. It should now fly all over the country. Maybe you need something to weigh it down a bit so it doesn't fly too high, but of course it shouldn't be dangerous to anyone if it falls down..
You must admit, if it worked it would be freakin' great! They would have to send the airforce in to get it down, I hope you get the irony.
I pass this one over to the more creative heads around here..
Got a crush on Obama
One of my truther friends sent me this as a joke. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU While I watched it I wondered what if JFKjr (the hunk) hadn't been murdered and ran for president? Catch my drift?
Untimely deaths.
JFK, RFK, MLK, John Lennon, Lady Di, JFK Jr. ...All victims of "lone nuts" or vehicular tragedy. Sure. All of the most hope inspiring, positive, free thinkers of the last 50 years, cut down in their youth. Coincidence. Right.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
Just saw this great clip about one of my favorite writers:
I've heard all this before, but this youtube is well edited.
www.v911truth.org
"The Reflecting Pool": the 9/11 movie
http://reflectingpoolfilm.com/index.htm
When is this film going to be in theaters?