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A direct result of our demonstrations outside CBS News. Please drop Manny Ramos a line and urge him to follow up with Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: ramos@kpix.cbs.com

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OT: Big truthing opportunity in NYC on 6/25/07 (this Monday)!

I received the following email, in part:
If you want to see this criminal administration stopped, bring your friends to a Town Meeting:
Impeach Bush & Cheney for War Crimes

MONDAY, June 25 6:30pm
Society for Ethical Culture
64th & Central Park West, Manhattan

Learn the full scope of what the Bush regime is doing and how Bush & Cheney must and can be driven from office.

Impeachment advocates Mayor Rocky Anderson, Salt Lake City
& Mayor John Shields, Nyack NY
Liam Madden, Marine veteran & war resister
Rolling Stone writer & essayist Jeff Sharlet,
Sunsara Taylor, announcing World Can't Wait's plans,
Former diplomat Colonel (ret) Ann Wright, on the torture regime
US Representative (ret) Major Owens of Brooklyn

To purchase advance tickets ($10)
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Bomb Iran.
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More war, more torture.
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Let's help all the above-mentioned lefties face up to 9/11 truth before Bush & Cheney & the NWO are goose-stepping across the Brooklyn Bridge!!!!

National Cheney Impeachment Poll

This poll just came out this week and is starting to get spread on the Internet. The intent is to support the Congressional articles of impeachment against Cheney filed by Congressman Dennis Kucinich. It will also allow you to send a message to your own Congressman and Senators when you fill it out based on your zip code. The poll can be accessed at the link below.


I sent it to most of the people on my address list

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Good stuff

Way to go SFTruth Action! Interesting Mr. Ramos would quote this Professor Hassan (whom I've never heard of), yet ignore Professor Steven Jones (whom we've all heard of).
"Cogito ergo sum"

He should have quoted Dr. Shyam Sunder of NIST

"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."

Astaneh on the job since 9/11

Here is a transcript of him on PBS the evening of 9/11.


It's possible he was not then complicit, and does not want to admit he was wrong. Regardless, he is complicit now.

All he really said was no evidence of explosives in what he saw. But on 9/11 he was already claiming to know what happened based on the videos.

CBS showed good videos right before and after Astaneh, and reasonable people should be able to see the absurdity of his statement that gravity brought down the buildings.

Astaneh has been gotten to,

Astaneh has been gotten to, I remember writing to him about one of his reports that was never posted publicly on his website and he wrote back, but in a hand written note, that was scanned into the computer then pasted into email. Very Odd behavior, to go through all that trouble to basically write two sentences.

If not gotten to, then he has come to the conclusion that it is better to play along then to tell the truth (i.e. complicit)

Just my 2 cents.

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I looked at his website a couple of weeks ago and it is still full of empty links.

Show "Wow! That is some detective" by Grilltacular

thats some tough talk from a

thats some tough talk from a guy whos only been here for a few hours. typical.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Chris, Care to dispute what

Care to dispute what I wrote? Face it, you guys se things that aren't there, yet ignore things that are right in front of your face.
Case in point: Astaneh replying on a Tablet PC becomes a case of him obfuscating his handwriting and scanning things in an act of obvious conspriatorial behavior...
Right, or you are an idiot.

It's very possible he was complict...

And i say that because he flat out lied. He's not a stupid man by any means and for him not to make any mention of molten steel found under the debris of all three buildings leads me to believe that yes there is complicity there. Oh and him disregaurding the perfect 45 degree angle cut on some of the steel beams, i'm sure we all know the list goes on as does the battle.....
Mike in Florida......
Oh by the way GREAT job Cosmos and the rest of the SF crew !!!!!!

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace

9/11: From 'Kiss' To Collapse

(CBS) In the first of a two-part series, CBSNews.com's David Kohn reports on an Iranian engineer who's trying to reconstruct exactly how the twin towers collapsed.

At just after 6 a.m., on September 11, the telephone rang at Hassan Astaneh’s house in Berkeley. Astaneh was asleep, and his son got to the phone first. It was a friend, calling from San Francisco airport, where he had been due to take an early flight. "Daddy, he says that you should turn on the TV," his son told him. "There has been an accident." Astaneh went into the living room and switched on the television, which showed the twin towers burning.

He saw right away that with the intense fire, the buildings were in trouble. He knew the towers were made of steel, and that steel loses its rigidity at temperatures above 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. "It becomes, not melted, but mushy, like wet clay," says Astaneh. When the buildings collapsed, he was not surprised.

A professor of Civil and Environmental engineering at Cal Berkeley, Astaneh testified on Capitol Hill last week before a congressional committee looking into the trade center collapse. He believes that the intense fire softened the steel columns to the point that they could no longer bear the weight of the floors above. When the columns buckled, the 20 or so unsupported stories – more than 28 million pounds of steel and concrete – plummeted, crushing whatever was below.

"It’s like taking a 20-story building and dropping it on a 90-story building," says Astaneh. "That 90-story building will go down like a pancake. Gravity was the cause of the collapse, not the airplanes. It was basic physics. It was gravity doing its job."

But for Astaneh, this explanation is just the beginning. For 30 years, he has studied the behavior of steel under stress. "It just happens that I have been watching for decades how steel bends and buckles," he says. For the past five months, he has been consumed with reconstructing the last 100 minutes of the towers’ existence. In January, he began a year’s sabbatical so he could focus solely on that work.

"I want to know what happened from the moment when the nose of that plane touched the building, that point, as we call it, when the plane kissed the building," he says. "From then until everything was stationary. It is not enough to say 'Oh, fire went on and killed the building.'"

He compares himself to an AIDS researcher 20 years ago. By that point, scientists knew that a virus was the culprit. But that knowledge was only a small step toward a cure. "We need the details," he says.

To discover these details, he is examining the remains of the buildings, looking for the telltale clues that will reveal the precise sequence of collapse. He has become an archaeologist of destruction. It is an enormously complex task, one that depends on knowledge, intuition and luck.

The research is more than an autopsy. By studying how the towers fell, engineers hope to learn how to make tall buildings that are less vulnerable to terrorism. "This was the most important structural failure in the history of structural engineering," he says. "It will change how we make buildings." According to Astaneh, the United States alone has around 50 "major" skyscrapers, defined as over 50 stories, with at least 5,000 occupancy.

A lanky man with a droll sense of humor, Astaneh, 54, came to the U.S. from Iran in 1978 to study engineering. He flew into LaGuardia Airport on Thanksgiving night.

"I really didn’t know much English. We saw that there was a big table and these people are giving out free sandwiches. It was for Thanksgiving, but we didn’t know that. I saw that this is a country that gives you free sandwiches when you arrive. I always say that that was the time I decided to stay." In truth, he planned to return to Tehran, where he was already an established engineer. But after the Khomeini revolution and the hostage crisis, he decided to stay, convinced that the U.S. would provide a better opportunity to do cutting-edge research and make a living.

“He’s a very sharp guy,” says researcher David McCallen of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. McCallen and Astaneh have collaborated on a number of projects over the past five years. "He came to this country and could hardly speak English. Anybody that can go to grad school and learn English at the same time is not chopped liver in my book. He’s very intense and focused, and he has a very good intuition about the behavior of structures."

Since Sept. 11, Astaneh’s ethnicity has brought him extra scrutiny, especially when combined with his fervent interest in how explosions affect buildings. When he first came to New York the week after the attack, two FBI agents came to his hotel minutes after he had checked in. They questioned him for an hour before deciding that he was not a terrorist. (Unbeknownst to Astaneh, the hotel, the Tribeca Grand, was also being used by many of the law enforcement agents who swarmed to the scene after the attacks. Suspicious that a solitary traveler with a Middle Eastern name had chosen to stay in a hotel full of federal agents, hotel staff had alerted the FBI as soon as he checked in.)

Astaneh, who is a practicing Muslim, takes these suspicions in stride. He usually wins over the wary with his humor and enthusiasm; by the end of the interrogation he was giving the FBI agents a short course on the behavior of steel structures under stress. "This country has given me enough that I should look at half full side of the glass," he says. "For me it is more than half full."

He feels a deep gratitude to his adopted country. "Imagine, you come from Iran, you have nothing but yourself and your brain. You come to this country and they recognize that your brain is valuable. I didn’t have any connections. My name is not easily spelled, I don’t have money, I don’t have anything. You come here and they give you citizenship, they give you permanent job. They take you in with just one luggage and yourself and your family. I am enjoying all the freedom I have. I can go to Iran, I can come back. I have health coverage, I have shelter, I have food, I have best job. I always feel 'What can I give back now?'"

Until 1995, Astaneh studied only how steel structures were affected by earthquakes. Then Tim McVeigh blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The bombing had special resonance for Astaneh. In 1987, while on the faculty of the University of Oklahoma, he had become a U.S. citizen on the fourth floor of that building. "It was my Ellis Island, the Ellis Island of my family," he says. "When I saw that building collapsed, I felt something."

He decided to focus on blast resistance, a field that then barely existed, and one about which he knew nothing. He began reading everything he could find on the subject; within three years, he had become an expert. He played a key role in developing an innovation known as the "self-anchoring floor," which keeps buildings from immediately pancaking when supporting columns are destroyed. (Most of the casualties at the Murrah Building were not caused by the explosion itself but by the ensuing collapse, which would likely have been prevented by self-anchoring floors.)

Despite his expertise, Astaneh initially had no idea how to go about studying the twin towers' collapse. "We haven’t studied a building hit by a plane," he says. "We have to invent the tools as we go along." The week after the attack, he flew to New York, paying his own way. He didn’t know what he would find. He learned that the steel from the buildings was being taken to a Jersey City scrap yard, where it was being chopped up and recycled. He made his way there and began examining the wreckage.

Throughout the fall, Astaneh went to the yard. For weeks at a time, he visited daily, examining the steel as it arrived. While welders cut the steel into smaller pieces, he prowled around, looking for key "members," as the beams and columns are known.

It is a search for mangled needles in a haystack of twisted steel. "My job is to figure out which member was damaged when it was up there, not when it fell down," he says. "That percentage is much less than one percent. Of course everything was damaged when it fell. The total steel in the buildings was 300,000 tons. I am looking for 300 tons, at the most. These are members that were hit by the plane. Those are critical. Also, I want to get hold of the members that were from floors where the planes went in and the fire went on; they were in the fire, and they are the reasons why this whole collapse started."

He has catalogued and photographed a few dozen members and set aside about ten key pieces for further study. He has also kept assorted smaller fragments, which he took back to Berkeley for chemical analysis. Fearing that airport security might look askance at an Iranian whose suitcase was filled with chunks of charred steel from the World Trade Center, he Fed-Exed these to California.

Source : http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/07/attack/main503217.shtml

More Links : http://www.google.com/search?q="Hassan Astaneh"


For posterity, best wishes


Lawrence Livermore? Murrah building? From Iran in 1978? This guy deserves a good deal of scrutiny IMO.

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Yeah, Brainster

He is quite accomplished. isn't a shame how low he sunk on this one?


George W. Bush graduated from Harvard and Yale. And your point is what?

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

Kudos to SF Truth and to

Kudos to SF Truth and to Ramos for doing any type of story.
( It actually wasn't that bad - even an uninformed viewer would learn there were major questions)

Great Job Cosmos and SF Truth Action Squad...

Interesting quote...


It's (explosive theory) all complete nonsense. I didn't see any explosives... Just evidence of an intense fire."

Hassan Astaneh (investigated ground zero two days after 9/11)
CAL Professor of Structural Engineering


Anyone know anything about this guy, seen his photos, just never heard that quote before.

Many thanks and best wishes

WTC 7 NEW VIDEO!?!!?!!

wait a minute, i think i watched EVERY possible 9/11 video and i have never, and i mean NEVER, seen that WTC 7 Video where the penthouse (im guessing) falls almost 2 secs before the entire building.

47 stories + 6.6 collapse = impossible

Yeah, what is that...

.....dark section on 7's roof top left that crumbles beforehand? I've never seen that before.....

What was that?

yes, theres 2 upper penthouses on 7

and in certain videos you see the smaller one along the edge fall thru the roof first, then about 5 seconds go by, then the bigger central penthouse begins to go thru the roof BEFORE the roof line begins to descend. Clearly the buiding's core was undermined in its entirety just prior to the rest of the building going straight down in 6.5 secs, into its own foot print, and only KISSing the federal post office to one side, and the Verizon building to the the other. Amizing what fire and gravity alone can do... just amazing. (/sarcasm)

Physics/Science/Mathematics do not lie, only people do.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB

that's the first thing i

that's the first thing i noticed when i saw this video. this is a new WTC 7 collapse clip, because that angle shows the collapse of the east penthouse. we need a high quality copy of this footage

Penthouse collapse

Great clip - VERY clear indication of the penthouse collapsing first. I don't think I've ever seen it so clearly pronounced, either.

Awesome media coverage too!

"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a New World Order — can emerge..." - George H.W. Bush, 9/11/91

Yes, a follow up with Richard Gage

of A&E4911truth would entirely appropriate. I do like the shot they used of the exploding north tower with squibs + showing the descent of WTC7. People just need to take another look at that, to know that these buildings did not merely "collapse".
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cudos to SF truthers!

Thank you brothers and sisters! I feel your unity.

my email to Manny Ramos

Mr. Manny Ramos,

Thank you for your news story regarding the 9/11 Truth activists who were
protesting outside of your television studio on the 11th. This is a story that
truly needs to be investigated in full.

Although to the unfamiliar the sheer idea of some criminal faction of our
government being complicit in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 sounds
'crazy', a closer look at the true evidence of that day's event only leads to
many unanswered questions and to the conclusion that explosives were used to
demolish WTC buildings 1, 2 and 7. (See BYU physicist Steven E. Jones 'peer
reviewed' paper entitled "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse?"
at: http://tinyurl.com/28gou4)

I first started researching the evidence of the 9/11 attacks in late 2003. I too
thought the idea of U.S. complicity was 'crazy'. However, after very serious
analysis I would stake my life that our own government played a major role in
these vicious attacks.

I noticed in your news piece you featured an engineer who claims to have
examined the steel from the 9/11 World Trade Center buildings and concludes that
the buildings fell due to fire exclusively. I suggest that you also interview
the founding member of Architects and Engineers For 9/11 Truth Richard Gage.
(See website www.ae911truth.org) Mr Gage is located in your San Francisco area
and I'm sure that he would be very willing to give his excellent presentation to
you and your news staff. Mr. Gage can be contacted directly at:

Please follow up on this story. This is far too important to our country for it
to be ignored.



excellent email

excellent - thanks!

Manny was genuinely intrigued by Building 7 - encourage him to investigate further:


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Dave Von Kleist & April Gallop on Guns & Butter

DVK and AG were on yesterday's show of Guns & Butter. DVK plays great clips of Pentagon Journalist Jamie McKintyre who grossly contradicts himself pertaining to what he saw at the Pentagon. Worth a listen!

Peace Out.

Asteneh on Discovery Channel

There is a video clip of Asteneh describing a beam damaged by an explosion. He stands next to the beam and says "What you see is first of all a dent that is due to explosion, but more importantly this end, the signature of explosion here. This has happened due to explosive material."

Before anyone accuses me of quoting him out of context, he ostensibly believes the signature of explosion was due to the airplane impact.

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Conspiracy Analysts

Unlike those that theorize about many mysterious events, we in the Truth movement are not theorizing any conspiracy, or rather, any one conspiracy. We simply look at the facts and facts and facts and anylize the facts and now e are pushing to investigate the many potential theories of what in fact did occur on 9/11.

I listened...

And I heard the call YT.
I used to promote 911truth.org on my loose change hand outs. Im now shifting gears and placing Truthaction.org on EVERYTHING I hand out.

You will also see a check in the mail YT.

Its time for us TRUTHERS to put our support where it counts. We need to support this very important ground root movement.

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Thank you!

YEA!!! The 11th of the Month actions WORK!

11th of the Month actions have forced a 9/11 Truth piece in the mainstream media...

This is seriously exciting folks! These actions have been coordinated directly from the grassroots. Seeing this story forced on the media PROVES how important these coordinated street actions are. Continuing now in cities all around the world, we are getting the word out and doing it with no help from most of the radio hosts and researchers who claim to be part of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Everybody keep coming out and this will have to happen all over. Watch the video of the actions at http://www.truthaction.org
Get pumped and get on the STREET!!

Peace to everyone who is willing to play a role in this historical development,


Yes the monthly actions do

Yes the monthly actions do work...lets turn it up like 10 notches next month...this movement needs the people in the streets spreading the information

"You must be the change you want to see in the world"--Mahatma Ghandi

Interesting quote from the video...

"He says gravity brought the building down because the bottom collapsed..."

The bottom collapsed now? So... how exactly does the bottom collapse when the towers were hit and burning topside?

If indeed gravity is what caused the building to collapse after weakening from fire... How does he explain the bottom simply... collapsing? Did any one else catch this, or am I misunderstanding or reading too much into this? It just sounds a little odd to me.

That was a reference to WTC7

Problem: The "bottom" would HAVE to have involved the simultaneous severing of ALL the support columns at the same level to bring about the straight down free fall "collapse".
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Mr. Ramos,

Thank you for your recent coverage of the 9/11 Truth demonstrators outside of your office. While I was not present, I support their actions and message. I was just speaking this evening with a fellow named Richard Gage. He is a local civil engineer who has compiled a list of over 100 other engineers and architects whose professional opinion is that WTC7 was brought down by controlled demolition. To balance your discussion of professionals backing the official story, I would encourage you to interview Richard Gage as a representative of the many highly credible individuals who have called the government's story into doubt. Thank you for your time.

Fighting for G.O.D. (Gold, Oil, and Drugs) is due out in June.

Richard Gage AIA

For the record:
Richard Gage is a licensed architect, not an engineer. AE911truth.org does have a growing list of A/E professionals who support a new investigation of the 9/11 event. We welcome all A/E professionals to speak out and question the 9/11 Commission Report.

Oh! Low BLOW!!

At the end there where they do the "man didn't walk on the Moon" conspiracy theory comparison. (personally, I think the "Moon landings" were faked, but, still... and I still can't believe people are SO stupid and uninformed as to believe the Oswald lone gunman crap — that's just self-embarrassing)

Other than that it was a fairly good, somewhat balanced report. Of course, propaganda techniques always suggest throwing something in at the end because that's what people tend to remember the most.

At least they showed the WTC 7 "obvious controlled demolition" video and labeled it. That will do the most good.

Good job people.

Does anyone know how many times the WTC 7 collapse videos have been shown on TV since 9/11? (I figure it can't be more than a handful (x2), if that)

I think these showings as of late are significant advances for the Movement.

(remember when what's-his-butt-face wouldn't show the WTC 7 collapse video for Stephen Jones during the interview? that wasn't that long ago; and supposedly someone was quoted as saying that they needed permission from the head of the (FAUX News) network before they could show that video)

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Forensic 9/11ologist


9/11 — GET rEVENge! (in a peaceful manner, of course)

that butt-face was...

Tucker Carlson.

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Conspiracy, Conspiracy

How about professional wordsmiths (media script writers and story editors) straighten their posture from the across-the-board genuflection before the post-JFK, corrupted definition of the word "conspiracy" and its slanderous usage as commonly employed in the phrase "conspiracy theory?" Stop pretending you don't know what the word means!


"2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3. a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4. Law. an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act."