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if realtruther was banned then this place has gone to hell!!!!

i hope that its not true..

Good to know I'm not the only one who was thinking that. At first all his statements were backed up by many strong arguments but when he started attacking Christopher Bollyn at a very crucial moment his arguments were suspiciously weak, very unlike him. As if he was pulling a Fetzer.

http://www.911blogger.com/node/9217#comment-149615

Name one "disinfo tangent" he went off on, please. And to be clear: disinfo as in deliberate dissemination of false information, not deliberate discussion of uncomfortable topics. You can't.

That's because, as far as I can tell, RT, while sometimes being so skeptical as to appear paranoid, is genuinely searching for the truth. And if that necessitates confronting whatever orthodoxy's reigning -- whether that be MSM or education or groupthink induced -- RT's proven himself to be willing to take the heat. Remember the times when "Zionist" was still considered a dirty word indicative of "anti-semitism"? Remember the times when the H-word would still cause uncontrolled knee-jerkery and immediate propositions of witchburning? Then you should remember who always was among those that followed their own intellect rather than the herd's, irregardless of reflex guided peer approval: it was RT, and it took guts. It always takes guts to go against the flow, and as everyone here should know, in this world -- where even widely held beliefs may not correspond to the truth at all -- it is imperative that someone does, or ignorance will ultimately prevail.

We owe almost all of our knowledge not to those who have agreed, but to those who have differed. --C.C.Colton

With RT being silenced, those who would differ are now barely audible here. The silence of the lambs? DKos, anyone? I didn't post much lately because I felt I could only add redundancy to RT's hyper-skepticism covering all bases, but the way things turned out, I'm not motivated to step into his shoes. I'd rather step off the blight, entirely...

And don't forget to update the house rules to state something like:

911blogger accepts that the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by agents of the Bush administration, soon to be history, anyway. It is forbidden to write diaries that:

1. refer to claims that Israeli or any government except Pakistan's assisted in the attacks
2. refer to claims that any accepted icons of the 9/11 Truth Movement might have ulterior motives. That includes members #1-15.
3. suggest there might be other gross falsehoods systematically pervading history, unless explicitly approved of by the accepted icons of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Authoring or recommending these diaries may result in banning from 911blogger.

I'm outta here.
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interns < internets

Not hard to slander someone who can't defend themselves. I for one am sickened by the whole ordeal, now I only check in to see what disinfo's offered up 'today'. Pretty sad a person who asks tough questions gets banned & yet the 'no-planers' are allowed to flourish... I just haven't figured out why I haven't been banned. Guess I'm not applying myself ;)

Apparently what precipitated RT getting banned was a running feud between RT and Jon Gold. Both RT and Jon Gold had been warned by dz to stop commenting in each other's blog postiings that continued prior arguments and attacks. They were given a restriction to not post comments any more on each other's blog postings on 911Blogger. Apparently both were warned that if they violated this restriction, they would be banned. Well, as far as I know, it was Jon Gold who broke this restriction and posted on RT's blog.

Now, here's where it get's interesting, er, unfair. After the latest brawl between Jon Gold and RT, Both RT and Jon Gold appeared to be banned at the same time a couple of weeks ago. Both of their blogs were removed and their log-ins were disabled. However, Jon Gold's was quickly re-established while RT remaines banned. Why is this? Jon Gold clearly violated both the established rules ("thou shalt not use comments to attack people and continue previous arguments" or something along those lines) many times and not just against RT, but he also violated the new restriction against posting comments on RT's blogs.

There is also something in the site rules about people getting consistently negative ratings that could lead to being banned. Incidently, RT's blog ratings were very high - 9/10 - and his comments ratings on average were fairly positive. So, in this case, ratings seemed to have not played a part in it.

Jon Gold is apparently one of the favored early members (#1-15) of 911Blogger. Is that why he is given special treatment? That really irks me and makes me suspiscious of 911Blogger's agenda. Especially considering the fact that Jon Gold has been one of the more disruptive and divisive persons here, with his frequent snarky comments, often using obscene language against people, his throwing around the "disinfo agent" accusation in all directions, particularly whenever anybody disagreed with his LIHOP mantra (you know, the small but high profile LIHOP clique on 911Blogger that tries to:

1) Exagerate the importance of Patsystan and the fictitious ISLAMIC TERRORIST MENACE or any misdirection that tends to prop up the myth of the 19 hijackers coordinated by a Boogy Man in a cave in Afghanistan (such as the story of the supposed all important wire transfer from Patsystan to Mohammed Atta that keeps being trotted out, even though in reality it is questionable evidence and has only A SINGLE SOURCE - THE TIMES OF INDIA, which coincidently happens to have a perpetual ax to grind with Pakistan - breaking all the rules of journalistic integrity having to do with assessing credibility of sources)

2) Put all the blame on the soon to be leaving Bush Administration, while visciously attacking anybody who tries to discuss some of the more permanant institutionalized perp layers, such as the one foreign power who has 1000 times more connections and sets of fingerprints on the 9/11 operation than any other - MOSSAD and ZIONISTS controlling the US - purposely and repeatedly conflating the Z-word with "anti-semite" nonsense

3)Knock out one of the strongest legs of 9/11 Truth - the GIANT HOLE IN THE STORY OF THE PENTAGON ATTACK, PUN INTENDED. Working in tandem with the Jim Hoffman/Arabesque disinfo crew this clique attempts to turn reality on its head by claiming that people who don't accept the fiction that AA77 hit the Pentagon are disinfo agents.

So, the fact that someone like Jon Gold, who does the sorts of things that those sorts of people do against the truth movement is protected and given a double standard as far as the rules that get some people banned, while real truthers like Real Truther who have contributed so much integrity and education and assistance to the cause of 9/11 truth get censored, really is disquiteing to me and makes me want to reassess my previous preception of 911Blogger being an INDEPENDENT 9/11 Truth web site. This latest fiasco and the fact that certain people with "other" agendas like Alex Jones are given way to much coverage, is making 911Blogger look more and more CONTROLLED, rather than INDEPENDENT, and I'm not sure I like what agenda the controllers appear to have with where 911Blogger is going.

I agree, I think RT made a significant positive contribution to 911Blogger and it is a huge loss to have him banned.