mohammedatta@hotmail.com

We all know by now that many of the alleged hijackers made no efforts to conceal their identities or activities as they moved about the country before 9/11, even though a number of them were already on terrorist watch lists, or were being closely monitored by programs like Able Danger. This point is really hammered home by something a friend of mine turned up not too long ago: in a document from the Zacharias Moussaoui trial there is a listing of real name usages by various hijackers. Among these, which I find quite hilarious, is the fact that Atta's e-mail address was mohammedatta@hotmail.com. Ziad Jarrah likewise used his real name, ziadjarrah@ab.com. This latter e-mail address raises further curious questions: currently ab.com is the domain for Rockwell Automation, a major defense contractor. Whether this was their domain name back in 2000 is something which will require further investigation, so if anyone can find that out, please bring it forward.

Those two-letter domain

Those two-letter domain names don't often change hands. Archive.org's records go back to '96: http://web.archive.org/web/19961018190952/http://www1.ab.com/

1988!

The domain ab.com was registered to Rockwell Automation, Inc. in 1988!

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=ab.com

Record expires on 11-Oct-2007
Record created on 12-Oct-1988
Database last updated on 01-Sep-2006

google the email address and you will find an interesting list of people suspected to be involved in the 9/11attacks with emails, addresses & phone numbers...
http://www.jpney.com/dossiers/LISTE_DE_TERRORISTES_11_SEPTEMBRE_2001.pdf



Check this out...

Here is an interesting address from the list above...

Saeed Al-Ghamdi (flight 93)

2401 Quarters Rd., Ft. Lee, VA - click link to google it

Archive of ab.com...

is available at...

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ab.com

Has archived copies of their website going back to 1996.

It was Rockwell in Jan 1999.

Hope this helps

Best wishes and good luck with your research.

correction....

slight typo on my part:

mohamedatta@hotmail.com, not mohammedatta@hotmail.com

And yes, archive.org does confirm that ab.com was controlled by Rockwell Automation since at least 1996. Boo-yah. Busted.

Fighting for G.O.D. (Gold, Oil, and Drugs) is due out in June.
http://www.trineday.com/paypal_store/product_pages/Fighting_for_GOD.html

stock price fell 80% in 2001

first of all if this info can be confirmed and he worked for this company
i think this is a huge story and needs to get up on infowars etc.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15837290?q=rok

click on advanced chart and choose ten year.

look at rockwells 10 year chart. it steadily goes down and reaches its lowest point on 09/01/01.
10/01/01 gets a little lower but every stock went down right after sept 11. Since sept 11 it keeps going up
unitl right now. it fell 80% just in 2001. this may mean nothing, but it just shows how bad military industrial
companies were doing before the war on terror

This could be a huge find.

can you specify which document from the Moussaoui trial?

Yes, can you link to this document?

And thanks for the find. Nice.

My other question would be: Can non-employees get an @ab.com email address?

documentation

I'm not sure if this is on the web anywhere. I got it from a photocopy of some of the trial materials that a friend had. I'll keep looking. As for the ziad address, I seriously doubt that just anyone can get an address at that domain name. It's not like hotmail, they don't just hand them out freely. I also confirmed that these are the addresses which these two hijackers used to get their plane tickets through travelocity.com. You can't get tickets through that site with invalid e-mail addresses.

Fighting for G.O.D. (Gold, Oil, and Drugs) is now in stores nationwide.
http://www.trineday.com/paypal_store/product_pages/Fighting_for_GOD.html

at least one source of the info

Apparently at least one source of this email address was the Finnlist -

"A CONFIDENTIAL FBI list of 370 people suspected of helping Osama bin Laden's terrorist network has leaked out.

The names, addresses, telephone numbers, e-mail, and social security codes of the suspects were posted on the internet by Finland's Financial Supervision Authority (RATA)."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/10/06/wbush106...

places where it can currently be found online are:
Madcowprod as mentioned in another comment, http://cryptome.sabotage.org/Finnlist.pdf
and a few mirror sites; also archived @
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pvbk8lcU

of course, this doesn't mean either that the list is entirely accurate or that the email address was given in evidence at the trial...

The government's position

is that they were NOT tracking many of the hijackers, including Atta. (I don't know about the other hijacker mentioned above.) That accounts for them using their own names and living openly.

Some German newspaper accounts expose this as a lie. CIA had monitored Atta purchasing chemicals either for bio weapons or for explosives. They hid this surveillance from the BND, according to German sources. See Complete 911 Timeline for sources.

Two of the San Diego "cell" hijackers were of particular interest because CIA and FBI had information about them. They were living with a "tested" FBI informant for a while. And, the CIA was caught deliberately hiding some information about them from FBI when they entered the country on a multi-entry US Visa.

It gets quite complex from there.

70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.

Question is...

was Jarrah an Rockwell Automation employee or does Rockwell run some kind of training (technical?) school where he could acquire their email address.

Hijackers you call them? Evidence reveals they couldn't handle

a Cessna properly, let alone fly airliners over hundreds of miles, plus finding the targets & hitting them!

But???

They used GPS!... they turned off the Transponders and then used the GPS.... a third grader could do it....Right?

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The "government's position"...

is that they were "hijackers."

Are you that reading impaired?

No one has yet proven there were no hijackers, just as no one has proven there were no planes at some of the locations.

If you can prove it, write a blog that does so. Otherwise, get over yourself.

70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.

Here's my best guess

Jarrah worked for Volkswagen while in Germany. Is it possible he acquired the Rockwell Automation email address through some work arrangement? Otherwise, Jarrad's email is the only one of the alleged hijackers that is not an AOL account or something similar.

Anyway, here's an article from 2006 on some kind of partnership with Volkswagen involving Rockwell Automation:

"The Hannover Messe was also an opportunity for Rockwell Automation to announce its latest initiative to support the automotive industry optimize performance. As Reinhard Simon, Manager for Automotive Industry Solutions Europe said, “We are starting a new chapter”. It follows Rockwell's acquisition in November 2005 of Datasweep, a company whose approach to production management software Reinhard Simon describes as “the most innovative way to solve MES problems”. The software known as RS Advantage is written in Java. It is platform-independent, and can be scaled to small car companies as well as to global enterprises."

Anyone following Hopsicker?

The email address Ziadjarrah@ab.com appeared on a PDF document at madcowprod.com where, looking at the home page, I found this:

Terrorist Ringleader was President of Orlando Firm

WORLD EXCLUSIVE
June 12 2007
by Daniel Hopsicke

http://www.madcowprod.com/06122007.html

Died and went to IHOP

"Government records in Florida reveal that Mohamed Atta was the President of a company in Orlando with a business partner whose web of dummy shell companies appear characteristic of the type used in terrorist financing and illicit money laundering, the MadCowMorningNews has learned.

One day after the 9/11 Commission Report says the terrorist ringleader finished making withdrawals in Virginia Beach, VA. totaling $18,000 from a SunTrust Bank account, on April 5th, 2001 Hassan Erroudani, an Orlando man with close ties to the Moroccan Embassy in Washington D.C., filed incorporation papers with the state of Florida listing the President of KARAM LLC as “Mohamed Atta.”
The document lists an address for "President" Atta in Marseilles, France, which can be traced to a graphic design firm there. (Once again, Amanda Keller's testimony is vindicated. Atta told her he was French.)

Incorporation documents give the names of the KARAM LLC's officers as Hassan Erroudani, Mohamed Atta, and Jamal Erroudani.

Karam LLC was delisted in 2002 by the state of Florida for failing to file an annual report.

When the firm filed for reinstatement on January 13, 2003, it once again listed “Mohamed Atta” as a corporate officer.

But Atta had now been demoted to Company Secretary.

And his address has changed as well. Not to Paradise, or Virgin City, but Orlando, a long way from heaven, according to those who've been there.

Atta's current address, if Florida Division of Corporate Records can be believed, is 4124 West Colonial Dr, Orlando, FL., the location of an International House of Pancakes."

Just curious. Is Pancake Collapse on the menu at IHOP?

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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)