Henry Waxman Finally Speaks Out On Sibel Edmonds

Source: dailykos.com

Luke Ryland
Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 06:17:06 AM PDT

For months we have been trying to get Henry Waxman to hold hearings into the case of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds but we have been met with a stony silence.

Until now!

The Hollywood Liberal snagged an interview with Henry Waxman and asked about Sibel's case.

The full interview is 25 mins long. I've posted the relevant 3-minute audio snippet here.


Hollywood Liberal: From what I understand Ms. Edmonds was a translator and an FBI whistleblower and uncovered a case that involved The American Turkish Council who is Turkey’s main lobbying group in the US. Turkey receives Billions of dollars in aid from the US. The case involves vast corruption at the State Department including drug running, trading state secrets, arms trading, and the trading of Nuclear information and implicates, according to Ms. Edmonds, Neocons like Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, and Dennis Hastert, The ATC, AIPAC, and Democratic and Republican congressmen. From what I understand you promised to hold hearings into this matter, those hearings have not happened. Will they? And if not why not?

Henry Waxman: Wow! (laughs) That's one hell of a conspiracy theory you've got there. Can you please slow down a bit and repeat that? (laughs) I think, if I heard you correctly, you just said that Perle, Feith, Hastert and AIPAC are involved in, what did you say? Drug running, arms trading and the nuclear black market market (laughs)? Well, if you and/or Sibel have any evidence of this I'd sure like to hear about it!!! That certainly sounds like a job for the Government Reform and Oversight Committee! If you can provide me with any witnesses or documents or anything, we'll have the hearings as soon as possible! If what you say is true, then these people should be held accountable! This sounds like treason!

Actually, that exchange didn't really happen. I fabricated Waxman's entire response. The fictional response would have been appropriate though, don't you think? But that's not how he responded.

Here is the actual exchange:

Hollywood Liberal: From what I understand Ms. Edmonds was a translator and an FBI whistleblower and uncovered a case that involved The American Turkish Council who is Turkey’s main lobbying group in the US. Turkey receives Billions of dollars in aid from the US. The case involves vast corruption at the State Department including drug running, trading state secrets, arms trading, and the trading of Nuclear information and implicates, according to Ms. Edmonds, Neocons like Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, and Dennis Hastert, The ATC, AIPAC, and Democratic and Republican congressmen. From what I understand you promised to hold hearings into this matter, those hearings have not happened. Will they? And if not why not?

Henry Waxman: I don’t recall that I ever said that I was going to hold hearings on her specific case.... But I really don’t particularly have a comment on her case.

Hollywood Liberal: Would you consider holding hearings on what she has to say based on the fact that she was with the State Department, or the FBI, pretty high up, pretty credible witness.

Henry Waxman: I know my staff has been in touch with her case, and maybe with her, and her supporters. I don’t want to say at this point that we are going to hold a hearing on her specific issue. There are lots and lots of matters to pursue for matters of investigation of oversight. And we are working as hard as we can. We’ll look at in the context of all the other issues we want to pursue.

For the record, as an aside, immediately prior to Waxman saying 'I don't recall,' this exchange took place:

Hollywood Liberal: And there seems to be a lot of this "I don’t recall" going on with members of the Bush Administration isn’t there?

Henry Waxman: Absolutely Alberto Gonzalez is the best example of a man who uses that exact excuse over and over again.


I've put together a youtube video with some of Sibel's substantive comments, with Waxman's weasely statements juxtaposed against Alberto Gonzales' recent 'I don't recall' testimony. Is it a cheap shot? Maybe. Maybe not. I'm furious, disgusted, and don't care at this point.

But consider my fictitious, hypothetical response that Waxman could have delivered, and compare it with his actual response. The dog didn't bark.

Here are Sibel's extended comments that I used in the video:

Some respected, great Representatives, Democratic Congressmen, have expressed interest in my case. The leader of that group was Congressman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), and I briefed his staff several times, by giving them the same details I gave five years ago to the Judiciary Committee. They obtained the classified version of the Inspector General’s report two years ago and they were outraged. I have several letters from Congressman Waxman saying he finds these actions against me and these gag orders stunning and that he would hold hearings into my case if it wasn't for the Republicans preventing a hearing from taking place on my case.

Well, in January, after we went through the change [in Congress], Congressman Waxman is now Chairman Waxman and there is no power within Congress that can prevent him from holding this hearing. He has the jurisdiction, the authority to put the hearing there, and I have already obtained the consent and names of conscientious, good agents. One of them was the head of the Turkish counter-intelligence operations who actually retired two years ago. They’re all willing to come forward and testify on all the issues I have been gagged on. And that gag doesn’t work in Congress during a hearing.

So in January, after the election results, especially since we have such a great Chairman today, 30 organizations have put together this petition addressed to Chairman Waxman saying you have been promising us for the past five years. These are major organizations, and we call them transpartisan, because there are organizations from the right, organizations from the left, organizations that are whistleblower-related such as the Project on Government Oversight (POGO), the Government Accountability Project (GAP), the National Whistleblower Center, human rights organizations, the National Coalition Against Censorship (NCAC), civil liberties-related organizations such as the American Civil Liberties union (ACLU). We have 30 solid organizations that came together and put together this petition, addressed to Chairman Waxman, saying 'You have been promising us for the past five years.'

According to the ACLU, there has been no case of an American citizen who has had so many gag orders issued on her.

We also had 15,000 citizens sign the petition, and we had these 30 organizations, and they delivered it to Chairman Waxman’s office in March 2007, just over a month ago. And based on the office’s own report, tens of thousands of people in the past 3-4 weeks have called to say, well, when are you going to hold a hearing?

But we have received no response and we don’t know why. None of these organizations know why, because Waxman's office has all the facts, they have all the confirmation, they have the IG report, they have the executive branch’s own report saying she’s credible and her allegations have been supported by other witnesses and documents. We are not talking about allegations. We are talking about facts, documented and witnessed facts.

And I still believe that the Americans who care about their rights, their country, can make this happen. Maybe it hasn’t happened because one of the factors that is not present there is the mainstream media. We know the mainstream media has such influence over the Congress, whatever makes the headlines. If issue ABC is in the headlines right now, I Congresswoman, Congressman am going to hold a hearing and get facetime and media time and attention - sometimes for good reasons, I'm not saying for negative reasons, but media has not paid attention.

Maybe Congress is not finding it worthy of their attention despite all these severe consequences because the media isn’t there.

The citizens can change this, the constituents of Chairman Henry Waxman in California, in the LA area, can change that. They can say, you represent us, you represent our interests, and you are the chairman of the Government Reform Committee. Government Reform. Well, this is about bringing reform into Government, this is about reforming the wrongdoings in our government, and the price is being paid by every citizen.

So after not hearing back from Chairman Waxman through this petition and 30 organizations, I’m trying to reach out to those constituents in California, I’m trying to reach out to all citizens in this country and say, forget about me, this is not about Sibel Edmonds. Let’s go to the core issues: What was it that I reported that caused all these gag orders and firings and threats? What was it? What I reported had nothing to do with me. It had to do with the interests of the American public being stomped upon. It had to do with those who have been elected and given authority betraying the citizens. It had to do with those people who are using their positions in the executive branch agencies to obtain lucrative early retirement positions afterwards as representatives of foreign interests, and not afterwards - and this is very important: In order to obtain it afterwards they had to serve those foreign interests while they were working and had those positions. That's how they earn those future positions, that's how it happens. In every single one of them, that’s how it happens. You start serving the interests of outside foreign influences before you obtain your positions afterwards and say bye to your civil service career. And that is, especially in some cases, criminal. That is not something that should be tolerated by this country, and we need to set an example of those people.

We have the facts, we have the documents, we have the witnesses, and it’s time to do it. So stand up and call Chairman Waxman’s office, keep calling until you get an answer on when the hearing will take place. For each citizen it may cost four minutes. But the benefit to this country, and the number of issues that we are going to shed light on, is way worth it. And if it was not, they would not have gone this far to gag it. I have been fighting very hard, but you need to pay attention to the fact they have been fighting very hard, too.

This is unprecedented. If I am the most gagged woman in the history of this country, and if they have gone as far as invoking the States Secrets Privilege, the issue is important enough. So for anyone who may say, well, how do I know this case is credible? I’ll tell you that there is a report, there are statements from bipartisan senators, Senator Grassley, Senator Leahy, Congressman Waxman. And these are all on the record statements establishing the credibility of the case. The credibility has been established. The importance of this case has been established. Our government has taken unprecedented steps to silence and coverup this case. That should tell the American public how important this case is.

Call Chairman Waxman and write to him and do not stop until we have this hearing in place, and we have the agents testifying. I’m going to emphasize two things here: a) that they testify on oath, and b) that the hearings be public. I have had some hearings, and they have been behind closed doors in the Congress. I have briefed them. They already have this information, that's the point I'm trying to make here. They have the information. I have given this information to Chairman Waxman, to Senator Grassley, to Senator Leahy. It’s the American public’s turn to hear about this.

It’s possible that in light of the Chairman’s decision to hold a hearing, the government comes in and says it has to be in closed session and not in public because these are classified issues. But they’re not. If that happens, we won’t get anywhere because then it’s futile. I would not even be willing to testify because I have already done so. Five years ago I gave them testimony behind closed doors. So did other witnesses. It’s time to have open, public hearings and have people under oath. I will testify under oath, and the consequences of lying are severe.

So let’s make this happen, and let’s say that when all channels we rely upon — be it the courts and the Congress and the executive branch and the mainstream media — fail us, we still should move forward and not stop, and reach out to the American public, and make it happen. I hope we can do it, because not being able to do it sends a very bad, awful message to our children and our grandchildren, to say that active citizenry is dead in this country, and that either nothing comes out of it, or people don't care and don't do it.

We take pride in being Americans, and lovers and supporters of freedom - let's show that we can do it despite the fact that we don't have these four channels.

There is Chairman Waxman, an honourable individual, an established case, now we just need the public to say "Let's do it"

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Is a PERFECT example of what a "Faux Congressman" really is. Someone put out there to make the people think that we are represented, when in fact, we are NOT.

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agreed Jon

And this is why, ever since Kerry capitulated the 2004 presidential race, I have suspected that the Democrats are NOT spineless, but they're PURPOSELY keeping the smoke and mirros going.

Jon, what's your speculation as to why the Dems are compromised? (1) blackmail, (2) greed -- they sold out for campaign contributions, (3) death threats, or at least some major intimidation -- I know it sounds absurd but this IS the mafia we're dealing with, (4) allegiance to organizations with power (AIPAC, for example) for whatever reason (Waxman is Jewish -- some of my best friends are Jewish -- but, is he a Zionist in his heart?), (5) all of the above.

I realize that answer #5 is the easy one, but which do you think is the predominant reason? I'm leaning toward #2 -- they like money and power more than democracy.

It's really very simple...

Those in Washington D.C. on BOTH sides of the isle, serve their biggest donors (Big Pharm, Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Big Defense, Big Alcohol, etc...), and Those in Washington D.C. on BOTH sides of the isle, are ONLY about their next election. They honestly couldn't care less about us, the people. As far as your statement about, "allegiance to organizations with power", that falls into my first category. AIPAC is not nearly as big a donor as the "Big" companies I mentioned, but they are certainly a big donor, and VERY influential, on BOTH sides of the isle.

The left/right, Democrat/Republican false paradigm is just that. A false paradigm. The powers that be will do anything and everything to keep us thinking we have a choice, but the fact of the matter is, we are choosing from two sides of the same coin. Maintaining that false paradigm is hard work. It requires arresting people like Green Party candidate David Cobb and Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik during the 2004 Presidential debates. It requires NEVER passing a legitimate campaign reform law. It requires good acting on the part of the Democrats and Republicans to make us think they are at odds with one another, when in reality, they serve 90-95% of the same goals.

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I know, I'm part of the choir

And, your point about it requiring them to be good actors fits my view of them as being essentially slick used-car salespersons with law degrees. What a pathetic bunch of "leaders" -- but aren't the American people even MORE pathetic for believing them?


Of it is fear. Some of it is ignorance. Some of it has to do with the fact that other than the price of Gasoline, and the housing market collapsing, people haven't really been personally affected. If there was something like a draft, people would be in the streets everyday. That I have no doubt of. They manage to avoid it by hiring companies like Blackwater to be their army. They manage to avoid it by making our soldiers serve 2,3,4, and I think sometimes 5 tours of duty. They manage to avoid it by sending over the National Guard. They manage to avoid it by using the IRR's.

Sometimes I think maybe we should have a draft. No, I don't want our sons and daughters being taken against their will to fight in illegal wars. I don't want their families to have to go through torment like that. As I said, I do believe that would be one thing to get people off their _sses.

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You got that John Gold

You got that John Gold

take a look at what he says

take a look at what he says about the Tillman case in that interview. what a complete crock. the facts and Tillman's family say otherwise Waxman. 10 yards and 3 shots to the head only inches apart(with no enemy fire as previously reported) doesnt sound too friendly to me. Waxman is anything but honourable. you want impeachment? hes a man in a position to help make it happen now. no honor.

edit:a CNN reporter actually did the right thing for once today and asked the president to his face if he would pledge to get to the bottom of the Tillman case for his family and the many people who think he was indeed murdered. Bush evaded and failed to make the pledge. Waxman isnt much better, hes fake opposition like most are now. remember all those MSM fluff pieces on Waxman calling him "the bulldog", saying how Bush is scared of him etc? right. these are our "leaders".......

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

good points

So Chris, WHY do you think this is the case with Democrats? (see my posting above under Jon's about the various possible reasons -- and, add any I forgot -- then, take your best shot at what's really going on)

they are just a part of the

they are just a part of the game. Dems are more concerned about winning elections than holding anybody accountable. they only do that when forced by the public or the media. and if Tim Russert's comments are any indication, the media only goes after stories when the opposition party does so first. it was a staggering statement and a rare moment of honesty, i dont even think Russert meant to say it and probably regretted it instantly, but it really did shed a light on how things work. if the Dems were to make a big deal out of this(Sibel,Tillman,9/11, anything really) the media would follow but dont expect them to lead. and since the Dems wont lead, as usual, people like us must. we only have so much power though. Waxman is just playing the game, he knows how far he can go and wont go any further unless forced to. and of course whenever AIPAC is involved politicians of all stripes know not to rock the boat too much. AIPAC is more powerful than the fucking NRA as far as lobbying goes.

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"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

So, One must wonder

...with whom or what do his loyalities lie.

Middle managers are middle managers. Who is -his- boss?

Don't expect anything from any 'representative'. Until they prove their honesty and integrity.

So basically....

...there are no developments in the Sibel Edmonds narrative?

All this does is show us that the only way Sibel is going to share her narrative that apparently explains the nexus....where international terrorism, black market nuke trade, drug trade all converge....with government?

I guess she really is going to wait for that black market nuke to go off in NYC before she spills the beans.

I have a challenge....

SIBEL EDMONDS...if your information is SOOOOOO damning as you claim, spill the beans publically and let the cards fall as they may.

That is better then waiting on Waxmann or waiting on a black market nuke to go boom in nyc.

Is it about the movie? I've been waiting so long for "Kill the Messenger".

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I was pissed off enough by this article...

To call both offices asking them why Rep. Waxman thinks treason is acceptable. I'm sure I wasn't the only one. That's a "development."

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I am

completely disgusted.

Remember your blog...

"Call In The Bulldog?"

Should have been titled:

"Call In The Parakeet?"

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I second that........

Call your congressman?.........Yeah right! I can think of a few things to call them.


Sibel Edmonds is not only a very brave and smart woman, but she's also really hot!!

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Waxman should be charged with treason, or at least misprision

Although he votes well sometimes from a peace and justice perspective, I have never quite trusted Henry Waxman. he needs to be charged with misprision of treason at the very least for not using his powers to help get to the bottom of what Sibel Edmonds is alleging. 1st he says I dont see any hgh crimes and misdemeanors to impeach them for and then a minute later he says they are tearing down the constitution-and that doesnt involve even a misdemeanor?! See, the 4th Reich is going the same route as the 3rd Reich, making a new reality by making up laws as you go along. And the parliament/congress goes on the ride for a whole host of unsavory reasons.

If the legislative branch is going to be of any help in getting We the People free of this oncoming tyranny, it will need to be shown who its true masters are. I think they are both threatened from one side and enticed by the political power they see on the horizon in 2008. It is morally reprehensible to be playing politics with millions if not billions of people's lives. Maybe we need to start submitting papers to judges about our bulldog buddy Waxman's role in covering up Sibel Edmonds allegations of treason and other crimes. That sounds like giving aid and comfort to our enemies to me.

I will call his office and see what kind of response I get, but I have a feeling I will be taking a packet to a few judges.

“Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.” –Plato

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thanx for bringing this to

thanx for bringing this to our attention, Jon!

rather than phoning I'd suggest sending a fax. It automatically becomes part of the record!


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Giuliani says he faced same health risks as workers at GZ

Giuliani says he faced same health risks as workers at ground zero

CINCINNATI: Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani said Thursday he had exposed himself to the same health risks as workers at ground zero after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and spent as much time at the site as those involved in the recovery.

Campaigning in Ohio, Giuliani defended his work, including raising funds.

"This is not a mayor or a governor or a president who's sitting in an ivory tower," he said. "I was at ground zero as often, if not more, than most of the workers. ... I was there working with them. I was exposed to exactly the same things they were exposed to. So in that sense, I'm one of them."


“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

Sibel Edmonds: The most gagged woman in US history?

"According to the ACLU I am the most gagged woman in the history of this country."
Sibel Edmonds

You know what this means... they are scared of her.

This story needs to be pushed very hard by the 9/11 truth community.

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

Correction: the most

Correction: the most PUBLICLY gagged woman. Since we can't identify the many people, innocent or diabolical, who may have played roles or been in positions to witness questionable activities surrounding 9/11, we aren't privvy to the many possible methods by which they've been "gagged."

Waxman could simply move to declassify her closed-session testimony before the 9/11 Commission. No subpeonas or reinvestigations required.