History Channel - 9/11 Conspiracies, Fact or Fiction? on BitTorrent
orAntilogic Fri, 08/24/2007 - 11:51am
For those of us who can't wait until tomorrow night for the scheduled History Channel hit piece, '9/11 Conspiracies, Fact or Fiction?' Bit torrent comes to the rescue. I have yet to see it myself, but if we all chip in and seed the torrent, the downloads should pick up speed.
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History Channel's Fact or Fiction
Just watching this now on television. It is such utter BS. Not enough time to disect the whole movie and its terrible job at debunking the Conspiracies. Not one point actually made. This actually just made it more clear to us that there indeed was a conspiracy. Not only is the only source used in the examination POPULAR MECHANICS- Which is Surprisingly Enough Owned by the HEARST Company. The same company that owns the History Channel! The CEO of the Hearst Company (Victor Ganzi) also sits as co-chair of the Partnership for NYC....alongside The CEO of CITIGROUP. If your familiar with ZEITGEIST MOVIE- This would really ring a bell in your head.
Good Production Quality - Bad Content
They interviewed a lot of different people, and it was nicely edited, but the content was almost pure unadulterated BS.
Formula:
Conspiracy theory. Conspiracy Theorists claim... Conspiracists say... Conspiracy, Conspiracy, Conspiracy!!!
Cue Music:
"Expert"
"No that's not true" (Begging the question)
That's silly (We're smarter than the conspiracy theorists!)
The government is too incompetent!
We're an EXPERT! See the Graphic!
Some good smears in it like
Fetzer and his faked Zapruder film book
In the final analysis, it's so bad it will help the Truth movement.
“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."
The infamous Amy Goodman clip
The biggest problem with addressing the fallacious statements in this program is that there are so many of them. Here are a few observations I've already made. First of all, Lester Holt begins the whole thing by showing a clear bias. "We'll hear from those promoting theories, and from those challenging them." The insinuation is that explanations other than '19 zealots with box-cutters' are "theories" whereas the OCT is "fact". We are, of course, using the vulgar definition of the word "theory" here.
At 00:30:05 we find the infamous clip of Amy Goodman from Democracy Now running in terror as the pyroclastic cloud rolls her way from the collapse of WTC 7, except it cuts away just before Amy shows up.
There is a review of their first Shanksville debacle here:
http://vehme.blogspot.com/2007/08/history-channel-conspiracy-of-911.html
Remember the Maine!
Whoops! My bad!
At 1:06:37 we can see the whole clip with Amy in it.
Remember the Maine!
Charles B. Strozier History Professor, John Jay College
At 00:04:05 we find Charles B. Strozier, History Professor, John Jay College psychoanalyzing people he has never met. Who is this guy?
http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/terrorism/
- Charles B. Strozier, Director
Remember the Maine!
ZOG Ate Chip's Brains
00:04:30
Chip Berlet, Senior Analyst, Political Research Associates. Here's his Blog: Chip Berlet, and some biographical information:
This is a sample of his 9/11 "debunking" work: The ZOG Ate My Brains:Conspiracy theories about Jews abound. Chip Berlet unpacks their appeal.
Michael Schermer Skeptic : The Skeptics Society & Skeptic magazine Yammers a bit about JFK and how we needed a bigger explanation so we invented one. HC then tells us that hundreds of investigative reports came to a similar conclusion. Never mind the Church Commission.
00:09:50
Douglass Brinkley, Historian, Tulane University. Claims Pearl Harbor was really a surprise. Others disagree: PEARL HARBOR MOTHER: OF ALL CONSPIRACIES
00:13:35
Davin Coburn, Research Editor, Popular Mechanics addresses the "4,000 Jews" rumor while we are shown an image of a Focal Point Press web page with this quote from Shimon Perez: , followed by what appears to be the body of a September 12, 2001 article from The Jerusalem Post. That page seems to no longer be on Irving's website, but this one did show up when searching for the same text: Real History, Insurers, and the World Trade Center. In the article, Irving quotes the New York Times from September 22, 2001 as follows:
This author cannot provide an exact quote, but does recall Irving stating very explicitly that the "Jews told to stay home" rumor was unsubstantiated and should be verified or put to rest.
The fact that one of the two Israelis allegedly killed on one of the planes was Daniel Lewin, as well as the exact details of how he was reportedly killed are highly suspicious in themselves.
HC made no mention of the Odigo instant messages sent to warn subscribers of an immanent terrorist attack. Nor do they mention the arrest of 5 Urban Moving Systems Inc. employees. Nor any of the other conspicuous events surrounding Israelis and 9/11.
The only place this author ever encountered the "4,000 Jews" rumor was on the US State Department's web site. Methinks the existence of the rumor is nothing but a rumor.
Remember the Maine!
Richard Perle, Hollinger International Inc. & Odigo
Just to flag a thought.
Remember the Maine!