Worst Case Scenario

Worst Case Scenario

Ok, I have to preface this by stating I hope with all my heart that I am completely and totally wrong about my assessment of the events of this summer up to date. I am often wrong, and I hope this is one of these cases. This is an exercise in pure speculation based on fragments of information that read over this past summer.
First - I have always had my doubts about Alex Jones's *Warning* before 9/11. He makes a very accurate prediction before 9/11, the off the cuff matter in which he blurts out intimate details of the unprecedented attack has always made me wonder - How Did He Know. He didn't mention any specifics as to his sources he just saw it coming, but with such precision is still unsettling. After 9/11 Alex earn a premiere spot, he was alone in front of any one else for he was the one who predicted the attack. No one else could claim this thus he would always be seen as the defacto leader of any movement which was inevitable to spring up in the wake of such an attack.
Fast Forward to Chertoff's Gut Feeling. He proclaimed that an attack was looming, this summer. Chertoff got a lot of flack for this out of character remark, but he said it nonetheless. He soon recanted and then the flurry of warnings from all corners of the GOP. And finally the dated Osama video that turned up. With the flurry of Terror legislation and Executive Orders it seemed that everything was in place. If something were to happen it would surely invoke all the carefully laid legislation that has been put in to place before and since 9/11.
Now to an outsider of the 9/11 Truth Movement there would be no insight into the inner workings of an extremely complex and active infiltration operation at all levels of the 9/11 Truth Movement. It would seem all these organization have someone in place somewhere. From this vantage point suspicion of people in certain choke points in the movement would indicate that this infiltration is very well planned and carefully orchestrated. The movement has grown in awareness but has not grown to the critical mass state it always seems like everyone is waiting for Alex Jones, or someone to lead the march, but that has not happened.
So here we are at the very end of the summer, and this KENNEBUNKTPORT WARNING comes out - with great pains to make sure it is circulated far and wide via various viral methods , never peaking above the MSM radar, but very well known in the 9/11 Movement. After the information comes out that one of the signers of the document states she did not sign the warning, it causes a controversy, and a similar backwash of information spreads along the same channels that the warning was came out. Talks of hoax and talks of fraud.
This is on the heels of the PDX warnings, fear of a nuke of Portland, that spammed the indymedia site for quite a while during the exercise. Many smelled something funny about the volume of the warning coming out of this, Noble Resolve didn't seem to be an operation which could be flipped live, like on 9/11. So after the 24th everyone had developed a tolerance to these warnings right before the KENNABUNKTPORT WARNING.
So as all the lines seem to be converging and with the speculation that Alex Jones' WARNING was not a warning after all but a plant to insure his position in the front of the movement, I see this WARNING from Tarpley with similar intent. To proceed what the disinformation artists like to call 9112b. This along with other suspect leaders in the movement actions of late, like Barretts promotion of "Inside Job?" Banner rolls. All the while Fezter is no more than a step away.
This weekend the first trucks from Mexico will cross the boarder - they will not be subject to inspection until way inside the US, this labor day - the end of the summer. If there were to detonate a nuke of significant yield it could not possibly be small and easy to conceal, it would have to be assumed to be a crude nuclear device, something that some terrorist organization could manufacture. Something to track back out of the country - possibly via China from N. Korea.
Now this would certainly bring up calls that this was an inside job, of course, we have been watching carefully. But who would thus fill the void of Alex's place? After all Alex must of lost his stuff for his warning last year was a dud, promoted on Fox News of all places. Tarpley, Fetzer, Barrett.
With these men in front spewing out ludicrous theories and other such nonsense no one would hear our screams that this WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
I hope I am wrong, and If I am fine, I will spend all of my credibility with this one post. I don't care.
If there is a 9112B to come about, and we can do nothing to stop it, if I can insert some doubt about the legitimacy of these Disinformation Artists from moving into Fox News limelight, then it is all worth just one post.

Union: Mexican Trucks Begin Crossing Border Saturday
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/politics/14003768/detail.html?rss=dgo&psp=news

No Doubt

There is no doubt that one if not several of the high visibility names associated with 9/11 truth are moles. If 9/11 was indeed a gov't black op, then they would have definetly planted people to control the public's inevitable curiosity and handle the many details that have been mismanaged by the 9/11 operational team. Alex Jones seems to be a good candidate, so does Dylan and perhaps a few big name activists and bloggers. I'd say we should follow the money and access, who is making a living off of this stuff? I for one, simply want a credible investigation into the 9/11 events, there are too many unanswered questions. I believe that is what this movement was founded on, but often I see the discussion drift far , far away from this political goal. Distraction and division is exactly what the government wants and subsequently we have not progressed our stated goal, to gain massive political and public support for a new criminal investigation into the 9/11 events.

CointelPro

I think we should take CointelPro seriously, and I am wary of those who apologize for disinformation artists and divisive behavior--enabling them to continue their behavior under the guise of "let's all get along" or it's a "waste of time" to criticize certifiable NONSENSE. These people are not trying to "get along". Disruption and disinformation tactics are real, and they aren't going away. If we ignore them, events like this are all the more effective. This is "FALSE FLAG" 9/11 activism. Disasters like the break up of scholars for 9/11 truth are an embarrassment and they are intentional and planned set-ups. Personally I don't doubt Alex Jones' and Loose changes sincerity, but I do question their accuracy at times. Unfortunately, we can not know (most of the time) who is working for the government; we can only criticize those who are detrimental to 9/11 truth. The question is how to deal with it. Ignoring it will not make it disappear.

ive heard an endless stream

ive heard an endless stream of people accuse Alex Jones of being some sort of agent(usually Zionist. and while i agree that AJ shows pretty much no spine when it comes to Israel i just dont see him as some sort of zionist gatekeeper, hes done too much damage overall), but usually no specifics are provided. the 9/11 "prediction" is specific though, and i can understand why people would see that as a little suspect on its face. but keep in mind that AJ has always looked at the media in the way that most of us as 9/11 activists now do, as propaganda to be picked apart and analyzed, not to be taken at face value. you look for the clues and the hidden truth throughout all the bullshit and spin. there were many signs that a false flag was going to occur based on the stolen election, who stole it(the Cheney regime obviously), what was going on in Afghanistan(break down in pipeline talks etc.), media hype, and other signs. and why is it AJ seems to be so careful in promoting certain things if he was there to eventually bring shit down? no tv fakery, no DEW, no mini nukes, no Morgan Reynolds, no Fetzer at this point. i mean christ, AJ wont even talk about the Pentagon for fear of it being a honey pot. that sounds like something imgstacke or DHS would do(-: (no offense meant, i can respect the view that the Pentagon is a honey pot though i disagree). he didnt exactly predict 9/11, he said a large scale attack would likely occur soon and would be blamed on Bin Laden. that wasnt exactly a hard thing to predict if you really think about it and if you followed the MIC and the media like he does. there was an election coup and there had to be a reason why, it wasnt just about Bush winning and helping his oil buddies and defense contractors out(though that was a huge bonus), it was obviously about much more than that. and finally, i would go with the most simplistic argument, if AJ is a plant hasnt he done more harm than good to his handlers? i disagree with AJ on a LOT but i cant deny his ability to wake a substantial amount of people up out of their slumber. and he gets people active. seems like whoever handles AJ isnt getting their moneys worth. sorry if that came off as jumbled, i didnt sleep last night and im running on fumes,haha.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

a different take

It is not that he poses peculiar theories or plausible ones, it is the very fact the he and most other "leaders" in 9/11 truth do not have and do not seek the bandwidth or capability to mount a serious public opinion campaign to a simple cause "A New Real Investigation" the Jersey Girls got as far as anyone with regard to that effort, but they had no one to pass the mantle to when they ran out of steam. Instead the focus is on slick video production and endless stream of doomsday scenarios. Maybe he is a legit truth seeker just trying to make a living, I don't know, but that doesn't dismis the idea that his tactics will only get us so far in the realm of wide scale public opinion. We need our own version of MLK or Nelson Mandella.

In God I Trust, All Others Bring Data

Yea, I disagree with AJ on

Yea, I disagree with AJ on some things to but that guy I believe will probably have statues of him built one day - he kicks A LOT of ass! So I agree that this new "Kennebunkport Warning" does smell a bit fishy, but the difference between it and what AJ did is that Alex's one might have actually stopped an attack, I remember how much we were all spreading that thing so hardcore, I think it had really positive preventative effect if there was indeed something in the works.

This new shit I haven’t heard AJ push once, it's not his idea although again with all the reports of new put options and stuff it would seem fair to be vigilant at least and propose the possibly of a potential false flag, I mean is anyone calling Paul Craig Roberts a scaremonger for stating the obvious? AJ does sometimes take the bate with what I feel to be bullshit - i.e. that individual “Chavez” and the Hollywood script of a Jewish guy cutting “English Ivy” in a NY cemetery and overhearing “Hebrew” about an attack “on the Twins”.

If this "Kennebunkport" shit is fraudulent then everyone needs to denounce it and the person behind it, but attempting to lump AJ into this is ridiculous and is something that would only be done by people who don't know enough about the guy frankly.

Noble Resolve

"This is on the heels of the PDX warnings, fear of a nuke of Portland, that spammed the indymedia site for quite a while during the exercise. Many smelled something funny about the volume of the warning coming out of this, Noble Resolve didn't seem to be an operation which could be flipped live, like on 9/11. So after the 24th everyone had developed a tolerance to these warnings right before the KENNABUNKTPORT WARNING."

Thanks imgstacke -- I think this whole blog is a bold statement and I particularly appreciate this sentence. Although based on available information, it seemed like NR was going to be entirely a virtual simulation, some local figures pimped the hell out of the idea that we would be victims of the "flip it live" phenomenon. They circulated a map, with a tenuous-to-nonexistent relationship to NR, showing a "nuclear plume" on a map of Portland and basically just tried to get hysteria going, up to recommending that people obtain potassium iodide to counter the effects of radioactivity. (This is actually a valid safeguard IF you're really going to be exposed -- my point is that it was used to generate inappropriate fear.)

Now, in a few weeks, we will "host" part of TOPOFF 4, which is a live action drill incorporating reaction to the detonation of a dirty bomb. (And frankly, the nuclear plume map looks much more plausible in this context.) How is the average person going to react to the same crowd running around for the second time in a period of a couple of months screaming "Don't Nuke Portland!" I'd say credibility is pretty much off the table.

Your accusation that Alex Jones may be some sort of mole

is ludicrous. Alex has spread more information uncovering the 9/11 inside job & the NWO ruling elite than all other truthers combined.

Yes - it seems ridiculous

Yes - it seems ridiculous and unthinkiable - but in light of this new warning - the possibility presents an interesting viewpoint that should be contemplated IF true.
Speculation is sometimes all you can do, it allows you to put two unrelated events together in a larger context that otherwise would not happen.

What better opportunity to coopt a predicted mass movement, I can't think of a better way... Can you? We had been conditioned to see alex as the uneasy leader - even two feature film cameo's - both playing the same role - the lone voice in the wilderness with a bullhorn.

This is serious business.

All the world is a stage, and everyone plays their part.
--
11/11 Never Forget - Fetzer Flips
Zeitgeist Movie Torrent DVDRip (XviD)

Yes, it is ludicrous.

He - has - done more than any other single person(s) except DRG. If he were -my- mole, I'd be pretty pissed-off. Listening to him yesterday (I think) and his very long interview with and support for Paul Craig Robert's presentation is a case in point. I even don't mind when he rants anymore. Hell, - I - feel like ranting even more than I hear from him. I also may not agree with everything he says but if he can help preserve the Republic, I figure all of we actual Americans can sort out the fine details once we get rid of the crap elites and their middle management neocons and neolibs.

Very Interesting Story

Your link to story indicating that the Bush administration has sanctioned an open-border policy to trucks originating in Mexico is mind boggling.

Why is this not getting more air time?

How can this administration that has endlessly warned us about dirty bombs and nukes be allowing trucks to come across the border un-inspected?

and the timing is very suspect.

this reminds me of the Visa Express program - completely counter-intuitive to the official meme of this administration.

Yes with just one weeks

Yes with just one weeks notice this plan goes into effect. Even if not the actual method to bring devices - it sure makes for a convenient cover story after the fact.

The plausibility of a device from N. Korea would be put forward, they do have devices but nothing that is small enough to be deliverable on anything short of an 18 wheeler or a barge / small ship. Breadcrumbs would lead from some port in Mexico to China - and there to N. Korea.
--
11/11 Never Forget - Fetzer Flips
Zeitgeist Movie Torrent DVDRip (XviD)

and the timing coincides with this:

"They [the source's institution] have ‘instructions' (yes, that was the word used) from the Office of the Vice-President to roll out a campaign for war with Iran in the week after Labor Day; it will be coordinated with the American Enterprise Institute, the Wall Street Journal, the Weekly Standard, Commentary, Fox, and the usual suspects. It will be heavy sustained assault on the airwaves, designed to knock public sentiment into a position from which a war can be maintained."

This comes via Barnett R. Rubin, Director of Studies and Senior Fellow at New York University's Center on International Cooperation, and a leading expert on Afghanistan, who has it from "a friend who has excellent connections in Washington and whose information has often been prescient." According to Rubin's anonymous sibyl – or is that seer? – we can look forward to "a big kickoff on September 11."

and - taken in concert with Trent Lott's warning to 'leave Washington DC until September 12th" - you see a very clear pattern of warnings.

and then - of course - you have the billions of dollars in put options on the world market predicting the market to crash by the end of September from anywhere from one-half to two-thirds of its current value.

who would BET real MONEY (in the billions) that such a thing would happen????

i am getting fairly alarmed here

Teamsters Union puts out statement today...

Official Statement From Teamsters General President James P. Hoffa

Contact:
Leslie Miller
(202) 624-6911

September 1, 2007

(Washington, D.C.) – On Friday, the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals denied the emergency injunction filed by the Teamsters, Sierra Club and Public Citizen, saying the petition failed to meet legal hurdles. The case now must be argued before the court.

Reacting to the decision, Teamsters General President James P. Hoffa stated: "This is the wrong decision for American working men and women. We will now proceed to litigate this case on the merits. We believe this program clearly breaks the law. We will continue to fight for safety and national security in the courts and in Congress."
Under the current briefing schedule, the Teamster brief is due on November 19 and government's response is due on December 17.

http://www.teamster.org/07news/nr_070901_1.asp

The pilot program is only

The pilot program is only for 100 days, so this is all for nothing.
--
11/11 Never Forget - Fetzer Flips
Zeitgeist Movie Torrent DVDRip (XviD)

Note also

that Alex Jones has been ranting about and providing proof about the NAU, SPP and NWO - including the Mexican truck - open border proposals for a while now. Indeed, in another vein, he was the first to really put the Bilderbergers' issue on the radio several years ago. Which is only just now being acknowledged by all (Except the MSM, of course).

Convergences

>>So as all the lines seem to be converging and with the speculation that Alex Jones' WARNING was not a warning after all but a plant to insure his position in the front of the movement, I see this WARNING from Tarpley with similar intent.

Welcome.

People like Alex probably are sincere, but people can be easily manipulated. All it would take is to feed him the right info.

Interestingly, most others out front of the movement (day of, or very soon after) were extremely abusive anti-semities pushing the Webfairy. It all becomes clear at a certain point, and you don't even have to know if they were sincere or not, just what their purpose was -- inject nonsense, disrupt, lead people into endless mazes, etc. Worse is when the purpose is to first befriend those who need support, then start in on the absurdities and attacks. But ultimately anyone would do, even someone not abusive, just to have the ability to steer the movement, or know what was going on, or influence key people, when it counted. Sometimes it doesn't count until the court date.

Thanks for your thoughts and the mention of trucks, which I wasn't aware of. Awareness is important. Possibly that will be the most important function of the worldwide 9/11 truth community, to sift the intel from all vantage points, fast enough to actually get a sense of when their next move will be.

And thanks JohnA for your own convergences -- pretty powerful stuff.

Tarpley had Fetzer on his

Tarpley had Fetzer on his show last night!? What the hell? This is getting too weird.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

The Kennebunkport Warning Hoax

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/26355
“Each of us were approached during the rally at the Kennebunkport event on August 25, 2007, to sign a statement calling for the immediate impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney. Since then, the statement has been altered and posted on the internet, making it appear as if we have evidence that this administration will carry out a "false-flag terror operation."
None of us have such evidence, and therefore, none of us signed a statement stating that we do. We wish the authors of the document well in continuing much needed investigations of all aspects of 9/11.

Signed:
Jamilla El-Shafei
Cindy Sheehan
Dahlia Wasfi
Ann Wright”

I don't know what to think

I don't know what to think of Alex Jones. I do know, however, that Dylan Avery and his crew are genuine truth seekers. My gut alone tells me that.
Alex Jones, on the other hand, has struck me as somewhat shady, eccentric, and at times hostile to those who should be regarded as comrades.
His "infiltration" of Bohemian Grove seems bizarre at best, not to mention the fact that he's been left alone ever since. He recorded nothing incriminating...everything was hinted at and nothing definitive was recorded. He never seems to offer any real solutions or ideas. He doesn't ever address the "lynchpins" such as the "jersey girls" or child-trafficing. He focuses on divisive issues such as the "hoax" of man-made global warming (I don't have a cohesive opinion on it) and immigration. He insults those who protest outside of the Bohemian Grove compound. He's horrible at (or unwilling to) forming alliances, and seems to have more insider knowledge than anyone else without ever addressing HOW he attains the information.
I'm not saying that Alex Jones is a deep-cover agent of the NWO, but if he is...and we find out...I'd want his head on a stake. With that said, I'll keep hoping that my persistant gut-feeling about him is a false-alarm. What makes things even scarier is that there are others who share my reservations about him, and I mean honest truth seekers.

OH, and I won't even bother to address his embarassing histrionics, which the history channel exploited as much as possible.

Alex JOnes just had 2 very

Alex JOnes just had 2 very extensive pieces on the child sex trade in the past week on his site. including this:

http://www.pehi.eu/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossiers_of_the_Dutroux_affair.htm

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

comment deleted

comment deleted