Prominent 911 Leader: How to Fight Disinformation

A prominent 9/11 truth leader sent the following email about disinformation and disruption in the 9/11 movement. I'm waiting for permission to use his name. I assure you, though, that he is someone with no axe to grind, and who is not in "one" camp or the "other". He cares only about truth.

His message provides a road map for how to deal with the infiltration, co-option, disruption and disinformation which has been unleashed against the 9/11 truth and justice movements, since those movements have the power to pull the rug out from under the whole fascist enterprise.

Allow me to suggest that we don’t need to choose between denunciation, on the one hand, and silence, on the other. That is an unnecessary choice, a false dichotomy.

Denunciation plays into their hands, which is unintended complicity.

Silence is also complicity, as Dr. Martin Luther King pointed out.

Instead of these two approaches, what’s needed is politically relevant education.

Education about agents of all kinds, especially agents provocateurs, their history, who employs them, their tactics.

There is a huge literature on this. We do not need to start at square one. Read about Operation Mockingbird. Read about COINTELPRO. Apply what we learn to today’s situation. Keep digging, learning, discussing, educating.

This can be done without inflammatory language, without denunciation, without even mentioning names. I mention none here.

When names are mentioned, it should be in connection with observable facts, with evidence. There is a world of difference between saying “A claimed not to know about X, but on [date] he stated “[I know about X],” on the one hand, and saying “A is a liar,” on the other.

While educating ourselves and others we can simultaneously actively combat agents of the state by refraining from engaging in the types of behaviour they employ to sow dissention: name-calling, rumour-mongering, insinuation. Especially specific name-calling. Refraining from this does not stifle vigorous discussion and debate, based on observable facts, statements and patterns.

Education drains the swamp. Most of agents will stand out. It’s happening already. Other agents are deeper. Understanding their purposes and identifying them and dealing with them depends on more education yet.

Believe me, I come from three generations of the spied-upon and harrassed. Doing nothing plays into their hands. We can’t pretend they don’t exist. Ignoring them will not make them go away.

How will younger people learn about the Agents of Deception unless there’s an ongoing education effort?

“History is a race between education and catastrophe,” wrote H.G. Wells.

One of the aims of the 9/11Truth movement inevitably must be to expose, oppose and work to dismantle the grotesquely huge organizations of spies, agents provocateurs and covert agents of all kinds. They are an insult to democracy and honest discourse.

We cannot gain the peaceful world we want as long as billions are spent on spies and spying – many of those billions on disrupting the lawful activities of us, citizens striving for a safer, saner world. The standard New York Times figure for the budget of “America’s intelligence community” – how homey – is $44-billion. That’s on the books. Add the black budgets and you have a higher figure.

It’s been a long time since spies and spying were a political issue. The Church Committee of the 70’s was the last time the lid was lifted on the creepy crawlies that scuttle about whole countries tricking whole populations.

It’s time we renewed the conversation about the immorality of spies and spying. No doubt largely through their own propaganda efforts, they’ve gone from being pariahs to being heroes, from necessary evils to top dogs, romanticized by the “entertainment” industry (although with many honourable exceptions) and uncriticized sacred cows in political circles.

Now that we are experiencing their dirty work on our own doorstep we must educate – with principle, passion, courage and understanding.

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are u joking?

Disinformation is not a problem in the 911 Truth movement?




JohnA; Disinfo by Fox News


Disinfo by Fox News and the MSM is a problem. They broadcast disinfo to the masses who don't check up facts on the Net. The MSM also knows themselves that the info is BS.

"Disinfo" by 9/11 Truth activists is not broadcasted to the masses, it is posted on the Net where people can check facts. Plus these misguided activists actually believe what they are saying and are probably in love with their own theories.

Here, let's do a test....

Galileo says mini-nukes took down the towers.

Anyone believe me?

Of course the mini-nukes theory has never been backed up with radioactive data, so that's why 0% of the public (rounded off) believes this theory.


Why is this comment being voted down?

Can you stand up and 'splain yerself?

It is pitiful that certain trolls do this!!

Just like on many other boards, there should be a daily allotment of vote points, and a clearer statement about the intended purpose behind the up/down vote function.

I often see so many down votes drive posts into collapse that I wonder if certain people are using multiple handles to unfairly wield clout. I have posed these questions to SBG and GW. Meanwhile, soundbite it, and put your thought on the headline...they hate that!!

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What kind of an Idiot would vote this down?

Thanks for making my points for me.


Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein


Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein

Opinions on disinformation

"There's WAY too much self-importance in the 9/11 Truth and Justice Movement."

There are way too many personal attacks and irrelevant commentary on individuals within the 9/11 truth movement. 9/11 truth should eclipse any other issue within the movement. Honest critique of ideas are valuable, personal attacks and pointless insults are not.

"Realistically, the levels of true disinformation are probably extraordinarily low in this movement."

I disagree. First of all, the difference between disinformation and misinformation is irrelevant if both cause equal harm to our movement. Misinformation is equal in its effect to disinformation. In fact, I believe misinformation is a far worse and damaging problem than disinformation. Furthermore, the official story of 9/11 is disinformation which means that the subject of disinformation is a vital and essential topic of 9/11 discussion. The opinion that disinformation is "extraordinarily low in this movement" misses the mark by a long shot, since the very PURPOSE of our movement is to expose the disinformation of the official story of 9/11. We cannot avoid the subject of disinformation.

"In fact, I would feel very comfortable betting a large amount of money that there are zero."

It's a matter of opinion, and no one can know. My opinion is different than yours. What we can observe are false claims, destructive behavior, and ad-hominem commentary.

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

Speaking of destructive behavior and ad-hominems

Lookie what Webbie's planning tonight with his best mate Captain May:

Captain May wrote:

To: Portland Nuclear Inquest
Ghost Troop
From: Captain May
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:57:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Portland-Nuclear-Inquest] Webster Tarpley & Captain May: Interview, 9/27 (Thursday)

Dear Mr. Tarpley,

I would be happy to discuss these pseudonymic "Colonel Jenny Sparks" and her disinfo efforts against those of us who were trying to make the public aware of Operation Noble Resolve's danger to Portland. 10 minutes should be plenty of time for this. I hope that you will be exploring other areas of hard disinformation activities, such as those aiming at compromising The Kennebunkport Warning.

Best regards, Captain May.

PS: I found an interesting blog entry on the KW matter, which includes the well rendered editorial cartoon you recommended:

Webster Tarpley wrote:

Captain May --

Could we get you on the radio tomorrow Thursday between 9 and 10 eastern = 6 and 7 pacific to give a concise summary in about ten minutes of the intervention of "Col. Jenny Sparks" as saboteur against the Portland Oregon group? Because of the time constraints we would have to stick closely to this issue.
If you can make it, please send me a good stable land line phone number, not cordless, and Gensis will call you.
Enclosed a lampoon of the Berlet brigade.

You gotta wonder why he's so obsessed if we're so wrong....

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the 2 front war

>>"Col. Jenny Sparks" as saboteur
>>"Colonel Jenny Sparks" and her disinfo efforts

You appear to be engaged at the frontlines, Colonel. Keep up the good work. Sad that even just yesterday someone was unwittingly posting a Capt Eric May diatribe on here, but it appears that many were educated in the process. The work goes on . . .


You're welcome--but I'm not doing it alone! ;-)

Let's have a shout out for To everyone else who helped!!!!!!!!!!

They're easy to remember--they're called agents, too!:-)
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the 2 front war

>>"Col. Jenny Sparks" as saboteur
>>"Colonel Jenny Sparks" and her disinfo efforts

You appear to be engaged at the frontlines, Colonel. Keep up the good work. Sad that even just yesterday someone was unwittingly posting a Capt Eric May diatribe on here, but it appears that many were educated in the process. The work goes on . . .


LOL — Hit a sore point?

Look in a mirror at your own peril.

You self-proclaimed, self-styled "Protectors of the Movement" need to stand down.

Because if anything is "hurting the movement", it is you and your shenanigans.

Someone needs to come up with an anti-paranoia pill. And soon!

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein

I've taken my paranoia pills, but you're still spouting disinfo

Hey doughnut, do yourself a favor and read my paper on disinfo again. You know, the part that talks about ad-hominems--the third level of disinformation? Or better yet, re-read the post you responded to where I said there was too much pointless insults and irrelevant personal commentary within the 9/11 truth movement!

sadly not a damn one of you

realise that whomever the real disinfo agents are you are doing exactly what they want you to do.

I agree

but, I have mostly ignored the personal attacks against me. I am not one of the people who gets into many fights on 911blogger, and its because I agree with exactly what you have said. There are users here who's sole purpose on this site appears to be to insult people and bait other users into starting fights.

"An agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs, French for "inciting agent") is a person who secretly disrupts a group's activities from within the group. Agents provocateurs typically represent the interests of another group, or are agents directly assigned to provoke unrest, violence, debate, or argument by or within a group while acting as a member of the group."

You can bet your life it happens at 911blogger--screw the paranoia pills.

How about you write a decent disinfo paper first

It's very obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

If I'm remembering correctly, I pointed out some obvious problems with it, and you dismissed them out of hand.

But they were glaring errors and omissions.

And if you are now seriously calling me a "disinfo agent", then you have completely lost it.

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein

How to Handle it.....?

As I go about trying to inform, by way of blogs, the scathing, vile insults, I encounter, make me wonder who is just afraid of actually realizing what we've come to know, and who are agents of disinformation. It is especially bothersome, when among fellow Liberals, who are as vehemently opposed to the Bush regime as I, call me unspeakable names because I bring up the subject of questioning 911, or even if they (a Liberal) are polite, being referred to as one of the "Looney Left" gets annoying.

I wonder, if rather than accusing them of being a disinformation agent, asking them, why is it that it means so much to them, to counter this subject, especially if it holds no water, or so they say. WHY do they have to derail it? WHY does it matter to them?

Anyone have any insights as to how to handle these encounters?

I know it has been suggested that we not waste our time with those that will not consider the evidence, but,....since, there are so many more that visit sites, than those that actually post, I know that information I offer, that is left ridiculed with accompanying vile insults, my information, I've left has been somewhat defused. So, I do persevere...up to a point.

I have gone on for many days, even a week or so on some sites, on some threads. I feel like, despite the fact that there is opposition I encounter, so so many more people read the blogs than post, I must have qiqued some interest, and have left links. And since we all do that...I'm assuming, we HAVE made a difference.

We should remember that since the crooks own most of the networks now, our protests, get little mention, and often derision when they are mentioned.

I suggest, that we make a point of looking as much as a common citizen as possible too. When we are alligned with the green and purple hair crowd, the spiked hair/head bunch, we lose credibility.

The most severe form of learning disorders are owned by those that "already know everything."

you ask good questions

although they are somewhat out of the scope of this blog.

we all face an uphill battle on the issue of 9/11. we have been branded "conspiracy theorists' - and many of us admittedly behave in ways that encourage this label.

add to this the obvious disinformation campaign that seeks to attach us to outlandish theories - and then explores these very same theories on the History channel and mis-educates the public about what exactly this movement REALLY stands for - and ALL of our jobs get much harder.

911 Truth is about the essential american citizen's RIGHT to demand complete accountability and transparency from our government.


HOW could such a horrible thing have happened? WHO was responsible? WHO has been held accountable? WHY are we being lied to? WHY have so many facts been whitewashed and ignored? HOW did our defenses fail so universally and completely? WHO has benefited? WHO was punished?

3,000 people were killed. of COURSE there is a 911 Truth movement!!! there HAS to be. It is called: HISTORY. It is called CLARIFYING the historical record. it is called ACCOUNTABILITY. This country spent $60 million to investigate a presidential blow job - and 911 is untouchable? 3,000 people dead - and the facts on the table do not add up????

so we protested.

and they sent in the clowns spreading lies and theories and disinformation and fake activists to lead the movement off a cliff.

plane switches and holograms and missing planes.

remember the victim's families? they are still waiting for answers.

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but they did present PEOPLE who are known disruptors to this movement - as EXPERTS representing our interests.

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what did they focus on when addressing Griffin? Voice morphing technology? faked phone calls?

did they allow Dr. Bowman - who is one of this nation's formost authorities on air defenses - time to really explain WHY the official story on failed air defenses cannot possibly be true?

suffice it to say that a growing number of people are becoming increasingly fustrated by the volume of junk science and disinformation masquarading as 911 Truth.

that's not my opinion. its just the way things are.

simply summarily dismissing this problem - as you appear to want to do - does not solve it. we need solutions - not denial.

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What's your profession?

Your not giving away your identity by telling us... what industry do you work in KT? Why all the secrecy?

Jumbo Jets Can Not Demolish Skyscrapers.

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Jumbo Jets Can Not Demolish Skyscrapers.

Exhibit A



Jumbo Jets Can Not Demolish Skyscrapers.


right on schedule too

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Thanks Dave

I don't let the haters on this Gatekeeping site bother me. I feel if I wasn't close to the truth, I wouldn't get the haters attacking me so much.


Go away please "Killtown",

Go away please "Killtown", you and your "No planes hit the WTC" garbage disinfo is not wanted here.

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I'll answer all your non-"kooky" questions.

If there were no planes, then there was no need for a stand down order or confusing military exercises, ever thought of that? Was Norman Minetta's testimony faked by C-Span? If there were no planes, what order was Minetta talking about?

Who said there were no planes anywhere? We just think no planes hit the Towers. Wings and tail sections can't slice through all those steel girders and floor slabs as the videos show. They can on Flight Simulator though.

Don't you guys also believe the Pod theory?

No and you are right, how could there be a Pod on a faked plane?

What about the amatuer videos of the planes hitting the towers?

Most have the "zoom clue" (i.e. they zoomed in/out or panned at just the right time as if they rehearsed the shot many times), most "amateur" videos are nameless, and of the "amateurs" named, most are professional filmers and/or video graphic experts.

We also called Micheal Hezarkhani and he said he was "forbidden" to talk about his video "he sold" to CNN. But I'm sure that is just another in a long long line of coincidences surrounding the videos.


"Wings and tail sections can't slice through all those steel girders and floor slabs as the videos show"

Any "material" I don't give a flying phuck what it is, could be just a water balloon or a spit ball weighing 300,000lbs traveling at 500mph would slice right though those columns like butter, especially since they were designed to break away from a side impact.
If you are not disinfo of some sort then you are without any doubt a freaking idiot because you don't understand basic 8th grade physics.

What would a 500MPH gust of WIND do to ANY modern building on the planet?

Those towers reacted exactly as they were designed to do, they absorbed the impact/kinetic energy of the plane and then redistributed the weight load to the surrounding undamaged structure.
Brilliant design that won several awards after they were built, sadly because of what was clearly a controlled demolition the design of these buildings are now viewed by 50% of the country as being extremely poor, a house of cards that magically collapses into talcum powder fine dust because of a short duration low heat fire.

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didn't have to "sliced through"

the columns gave way exactly as designed from a side impact, they were designed to be ultra strong from top to bottom load and made to give way from a side impact in order to absorb the kinetic energy of multiple impacts from fully loaded 707's.
You ignorantly are trying to claim these columns were virtually indestructible & solid steel where only a titanium tipped missile traveling at 2000MPH would penetrate it.

A 500 MPH gust, not even sustained (wind) meaning no material just air would have completely leveled every building in its path.

A water balloon traveling at 500MPH weighing as much as those planes would have broken right through the side of WTC towers like a hot knife through butter.

Say, how do you know they didn't? a bomb could have easily exploded upon impact I don't know and neither do you.

You sir are either a poor disinfo nut or a complete idiot with less than 8th grade physics understanding.

Sounds like good advice Mr.

Sounds like good advice Mr. ?

We hope to learn you name in the future.


Well said.

JFK on secrecy and the press


Of "agents of influence" is to WASTE TIME.

It's easy to tell who's being counterproductive. Those that make statements with (source) links next to them and those that do not. Another common technique is to argue about something and use what a 3rd party said about the something as an argument that the arguer is correct. They always try to get us argueing with each other about something pointless.

I'll also note that the movement has been fairly good at deflecting these tactics. Nice writeup (AJ?)

Jumbo Jets Can Not Demolish Skyscrapers.

This is the elephant in the living room, isn't it?

Oh, man, this is a tough topic. I think about it a lot.

Knowing what we know about 9/11 and about past use of disinformation campaigns, we know that there's certainly going to be disinformation activity. That's a given.

But the disinformation agents are well-funded pros, and they're not apt to make many stupid mistakes that would make themselves obvious. So it's extremely hard to distinguish the planned disinformation sources and operations from honest disagreements within the truth movement (no matter how foolish one side within it may be on a given topic) and from intellectually sincere critics (however wrongheaded) of the movement.

Of course, some people are simply implausible to be considered disinformation agents, because they've served the movement so uniquely well. (E.g. David Ray Griffin as a popularizer and synthesizer; Steven Jones for his development of the thermite thesis and distancing of himself from unmarketably far-fetched theories; Richard Gage for putting the imprimatur of architects and engineers on the movement.)

Speaking as a small-l libertarian, I've wondered about the Morgan Reynolds thing, Reynolds being a respected libertarian economist. His effect, if any, on libertarians has tended to turn off libertarians to 9/11 truth, and may have played a role in why so few libertarian intellectuals of note are sympathetic to the truth movement.

Years ago, Reynolds was a speaker at a libertarian scholars' conference, where, presumably to be ironic, he spoke, literally wearing a tin-foil hat (for ironic effect -- and a suspicious bit of self-undermining for someone who wasn't previously known for lacking public relations savvy) and spinning his 9/11 theories of holograms and space beams. That event is still much-cited by certain libertarian intellectuals, including ones who weren't there, in defense of disregarding 9/11 truth issues. (I wasn't there, for the record.)

In a libertarian discussion forum I moderate, there was some discussion about this. One person -- a political science professor, as it happens, who also hadn't been at the aforementioned conference -- wrote that he had been at another, earlier libertarian scholars' conference in the late '90s when Reynolds had been in attendance. He, Reynolds, and some others went out for drinks that night, and he got to talking with Reynolds about the Gulf War and the ongoing U.S. persecution of Iraq (this during the Clinton years). Reynolds expressed strong support for the campaign against Iraq.

Well, as we know, Reynolds went on to work a couple years for the Bush 2 administration, then became an eccentric 9/11 truth scholar. The political science professor said that he was very surprised when Reynolds came out against the official story because it seemed incongruous coming from a seeming proponent of the U.S. campaign against Iraq.

Disinformation agent or not, Reynolds has played a role in driving more than a few libertarian intellectuals away from 9/11 truth. If he's working for hire, he's earned his little chunk of the "black budget."

I agree with the author in

I agree with the author in principle. I've always argued that it's far better to leave names out of it and just debunk the disinformation itself. This has become increasingly difficult over time, however, and I've often succumbed to the temptation to call people out by name. Not that I'm a prominent figure or anything, I'm just some guy on a mesage board. But it requires an extraordinary amount of discipline to leave names out of it when people you respect are being viciously attacked.

It is also necessary, I believe, to examine the past behaviors of individuals who promote these theories. How is this to be done without naming them? How do we know who not to invite to conferences without knowing their names? These are not rhetorical questions. I'm asking if anyone can provide a reasonable strategy. At this point I'm thinking of bowing out of any debate on agents of influence -- it's sapping too much of my energy.

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Naming names is

Naming names is unavoidable.... if only to document specific examples of the various sorts of disinfo, psyop, conintelpro...... whatever. In an educated democracy... which is what 911blogger is, more or less, it should be the most empirically and evidence-based persuasive argument that wins.... but we must always beware of the effect of our own consensus trance. IF we follow the principles of 'disinfo' generally we might remain pretty close to the truth.

"There are none so hoplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." (Goethe)

Naming names

I agree that attacking the message not the messenger is the best way. To begin with. But it comes time to name names when the individual's documented actions and words are doing more harm than good

Once they cross the line where God and everyone can see their actions/words--naming names is not only appropriate, but our responsibility.

What should be avoided is naming names based soley on speculation, or stating very clearly what is speculation and what isn't. A simple test -- can you link to prove it? Failing that, do you have a witness? Are they willing to go on record properly? If not, all you have so far is spectulation.

I edited my Daily Kos article when a friend pointed out my Chip Berlet info was mostly speculation--they were right ; I put in a note to clarify that and my reasons for such speculation.

Sometimes it's a fine line--but if you can link to evidence of bad behavior you're on solid ground.
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Try to educate this lot

Ignorance is bliss. Your TV

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There's nothing to educate

"This lot," as you put, aren't interested in truth. They're interested in having America fight Israel's wars.

9/11 was a glorious victory for them. Whether 9/11 was blowback or a false flag operation is of no concern to them. What matters is that the U.S., having put itself in the position of experiencing 9/11 events, can now without limits extend its commitment to Israeli interests and its disregard of those of the American people and of the rest of the world.

So much for "Master's" Degrees...

Wow, this really puts a huge stain on Columbia University and Graduate Students all over.
College is such a huge scam...This video proves it.

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which info?

"If you're not out there on the street getting the info. out and doing something about it"

which info?

Alex Jones version of the truth?

Loose Changes' version of the truth?

Webster Tarpley's version of the truth?

'the jews are guilty of everything' version of the truth?

Jim Fetzer's version of the truth?

they are ALL out there! that's the point. that's the problem. the public gets 100 different conflicting pieces of evidence - and concludes it is all rubbish.

They also get...

They also get the the 9/11 Commission version of the truth, which they conclude is all rubbish?

Actually, because of the Internet, there is a much faster CONVERGENCE TO THE TRUTH to alternative facts & theories, as all the various ideas of 9/11 Truth films, websites, and leaders have been debated.

[this took decades regarding JFK with no internet]

The big losers in this debate are: DEW, mini-nukes, Pods, TV fakery, Fetzer, Reynolds, Wood

Mixed bag: The Pentagon theories

Winners: Controlled demolition & MIHOP, DRG, Jim Hoffman, Jersey Girls, 911Blogger, 911Truth, AE911Truth, 911research, Dylan Avery, Jason Bermas, 911Mysteries, PressForTruth, etc.

I just spoke to a key member of the Ron Paul campaign last night for 1 1/2 hours, and have been asked to write up a practical 9/11 Truth strategy for Ron Paul, which I will submit soon.

I don't think "the public" is as stupid as you imply they are

(please don't make me back that statement up with facts and evidence and research and such)

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein

well allow me then

The American public in general is just as ignorant as a stick.

45% of respondents chose "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so,"

Why people believe Americans are Stupid.

Sadly a large percentage of the general American public could hardly be more stupid or they wouldn't be able to walk & breathe at the same time.

At least 50% of Americans can look at WTC7 collapsing over & over and still say it was because of fire and they do this solely because Faux Noise the MSM says so, never mind their lying eyes.


So enough of you stupid Americans here either cant handle the truth or you are Creationist lunatics I guess. Only reason anyone would vote this down.
Facts are all that is presented here.

A huge percentage of the American public are just as ignorant as the day they were born, why else would we be in this mess?


This analysis is incorrect and misguided.

The MSM controls 90% of the national media. That is the problem, not paid disinfo agents.

The MSM discredits 9/11 Truth news by:

a) ignoring it (90% of the time)

b) attacking it (9% of the time)

c) debunking it (1% of the time)

d) covering 9/11 Truth news fairly in an unbiased manner like 911Blogger (0% of the time)

e) employing disinfo agents (0% of the time)

As far as "disinformation", what do you call Bush administration officials first saying there were "no warnings" and then saying "we had ample warnings"?

Are Bush administration officials who are contradicting each other disinfo agents on the payroll of 9/11 truth? Are these rogue Bush officials trying to discredit the Bush administration?

No, the coverup is just unraveling, that's all.

Dis information has many uses, chum

Your analysis is off because your frame assumes disinfo is only to disredit the target to an outside audiance. You also make the assumtpion the MSM is directly employing disinfo agents. This is unlikey. It is far more likely disinfo ops and the MSM are employed by the same interests with diffent tasks.

Disinformation ops are also used to demoralize the target. See YT's thread at TruthAction.

While these ops were exposed and decentralizedin the 1970's, they never went away.

You are correct MSM dominance is a, even the, key factor in hiding the facts of 9/11 from the general public. But you are wrong that there is NO attempt to use disinfo agents IN the 911movement--if they have them in the peace and environmental movements, bet you last pint they have them among us.;-)
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The problem is

that the MSM which IS the main problem are using the lunatics & disinfo types to spread their propaganda and to discredit the 9/11 truth movement.

The MSM mainly uses the likes of the Fetzers & Woods, even if they allow someone decent on like Steven Jones that is only because they know he is soft spoken & considerate and can easily be talked over & made to look foolish by the usual Faux Noise attack.

When they show that 5 second snippet of a 9/11 truth protest with 350,000+ protesters there what they say is there was less than 100,000 and what they show is the one lunatic sporting a pink mohawk in a green tutu. The MSM do everything they possibly can to marginalize any and all decent about 9/11 truth and anti-war.

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I was right, yet again

Why would Barrie Zwicker give a rat's ass if people knew he was the one who wrote that?

Very odd. (of course, he was probably afraid of being unceremoniously and arbitrarily attacked)

Gee. I wonder why? (not)

Or perhaps he did not feel as strongly about it as he implies by its writing and publication?

I could see that.

Knowing now that he is the author, I give it an F+. (and I'm being kind)

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein