Taken back for edit. After reading Nicholas below and considering his punch line, I wanted to take another stab at my own effort. Upon the ashes of the foiled NWO plan, we have the "opportunity" to craft something a bit different, something We get to participate in, rather than just riding along.

Thanks, particularly for helping in my use of the word "power" in relation to China. As you suggest, and I agree... China is not about projecting her "power", so much as it's about exercising what she has, and can well savvy for at least trying to feed her own. That kind of power in one respect, I find admirable at least for its apparent introspection. Wish my own country would consider such. So casting stones at China, for anything at this time, would be just plan stupid considering our own glass house.

Nicholas said below, "9/11 was done, to save the old world order."

It's a great phrase. But as for the rational of the old world order's NEED to perpetrate 9/11... I've long pinned THAT on a "failure of imagination".

So far, I can find at least one grand miscalculation on the part of the 9/11 planners, and one outright fantastic comedic tragedy. This HAS a happy ending... so far as I can see. At least for free people that is.

The miscalculation was in one hand pulled off just a half dozen years or so too late up against the technical maturity of the public at large, vs. another hand that couldn't be rushed any faster trying to place obstacles in front of human drive. They tried their best to get the playing pieces timed in order, and then found themselves stuck without an option. They HAD to do it after a curtain point of no return. The commitment and stakes was that of All In Poker.

In the spring of '02, I was convinced by my own research and the several comments of others... that if this was going to be uncovered by free people... the planners had critically failed to account for what the internet would become in such a short period of time... what it could remember, and how much more extensively people would use it in real communication, instead of just for porn and stocks.

The ultimate tragic drama, was the "failure of imagination". It has always been one of my favorite lines for the double meaning so many of the sound bites offered by this era insist upon hearing again for the stark truths buried within. People WILL be able to listen and learn from These Bastards for generations to come.

They, the bastard They, could not find people (ironically declining seas of volunteers), who could imagine an alternative in all the think tanks, back rooms, and board meetings that didn't include some major concession on the part of global elite needing to compromise away projected profits. A fools paradise of dreamt riches, so long as they could keep control of the tally stick, and the ironic entendre of a False Profit.

It was absolutely last minute. Otherwise it might have stuck deeper, longer. As it was 'pulled' at the very last minute, so to say... too many loose ends left within a burgeoning sea of young people stepping into technical gadgety pants their otherwise Masters thought they could keep up with. The Info-Police-Planet couldn't get its digits lined up quick enough and simultaneously failed by a red c-hair trying to dumb people down enough to pull the wool. Not that we're out of the woods yet, not by a long shot... but we've bested them at their own game, they know it... we know it... now I'd say it's just a matter of settling the score as calmly and quietly as people vs. elite deem prudent, and with as much grace she, humanity, can muster in times like these.

Submitted earlier, but re-edited.

GW, I like what you're asking of that theoretical person[s] who likely peak in on this civilian 911 study and justice effort. Quite possibly gauging for feedback or hedging on how such a person with genuine inside information might best reconcile with themselves. That would seem to me the necessary first step in turning their past complicity or active knowledgeable complacency, into something positive even after such a past participation in atrociousness.

Your China 'angle' as major factor in the elite's calculus, along with general xenophobia are the two components I would still develop. Greed for resource or nation state favoritism and religion, are still subsets subservient to the hierarchy of mass manipulation through xenophobia. Which is the weapon of choice used against general people by State-less elite irrespective their own time or place.

China has been the preeminent preoccupation and focus of western intelligence "fixation" looking at, and considering the potential of, China's "power". (See Nicolas below for more comment on China's "power" attitude.) Yet I worry that such a fixation by a self-cloistered IC has not shorted the alternative to conflictive power/resource analysis, that being, equitable earth power/resource synthesis. Something unprofitable for elite the world over. Myopic to a dangerous fault, if our Officialdom has been projecting its dangerous mis-leadership by example if indicated by Officialdom's disinterest in interdisciplinary education, honest prosperity, and spiritual peace.

But as added above, I does feel like the Elite version of NWO has been fatally wounded. Not dead, and currently NOT de-fanged yet either... cornered it might lash and swing... but definitely something free people will not soon allow to rome unhindered nor unwatched, now with a new eye for such dangers afoot.

Great thread. Valid points all around.

For my part, I think it is a major mistake to view the neocons as freakish aberration. This line of thinking is endemic amongst 911 truthers, yet the Straussians are merely the logical extension of liberal theory (I use the term “liberal” not in the modern sense of “social progressive” but as an expression of the classical liberalism of Hobbes and Locke).

The essence of Straussian theory is elitism. I think we can all agree on that.

“Because mankind is intrinsically wicked, he has to be governed,” he once wrote. “Such governance can only be established, however, when men are united – and they can only be united against other people.”

A bizarre, self-defeating statement with no basis in reality (or at least anthropology), yet it is the defining characteristic of all statist philosophies. Including that of the “Founding Fathers” (saving Jefferson, perhaps).

So we find Woodrow Wilson arguing that “We want one class of persons to have a liberal education, and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class of necessity in every society, to forgo the privilege of a liberal education and themselves to perform specific difficult, manual tasks.” And John Dewey that the "more intelligent members of the community” must maintain dominance because "the common interests elude public opinion entirely". Or John Jay that the “people who own the country ought to govern to it”. Or Liberal scholar Walter Lipmann that the “masses” are “'ignorant and mentally deficient.” Or Trostsky that “The working class cannot be left wandering all over Russia. They must be thrown here and there, appointed, commanded, just like soldiers.” Or Hitler that “We fight against the idea of numbers and the delirium of the masses. We want to see those who are superior take the reins of government in their hands.”

Or George Washington that “Mankind left to themselves are unfit for their own government."

So no, the Straussians are not an aberration. They are the natural extension of classical liberal doctrine. Ideas such as original sin, natural discord and the “pre-social” individual, the necessity of hierarchy and the primacy of the state are the foundation upon which Strauss built his deranged theories. They derive as much from John Locke and Hobbes as Hitler and Mussolini.

I think the motives outlined by GW (protecting Israel, containing China etc.) are real. As Bakunin bluntly put it: “The state must devour lest it be devoured, conquer lest it be conquered, enslave lest it be enslaved, since two powers, similar and yet alien to each other, could not coexist without mutual destruction.” After the collapse of the Soviet Union the United States was presented with an irresistible opportunity to expand her power ten-fold.

But these geopolitical machinations are a symptom of something deeper. They’re a symptom of the very simple idea that elites have the right – in fact the duty – to corral the “bewildered herd” and to manifest destiny in the name of “civilization”. At its heart it is based on the same weapon elites use against the “common” man: fear. Fear of real democracy, fear that one's host state will diminish in power in relation to others, fear of the “mob” threatening to make things equitable and just. It’s the same fear that plagued the “founding fathers”. And it’s a fear that we have to overcome.

The motive for 911 was, in fact, incredibly simple. The goal, as Brzezinski put it, was was to keep "the barbarians from coming together" and prevent "anarchy".

"'Incapacity of the masses.' What a tool for all exploiters and dominators, past present and future, and especially for the modern aspiring enslavers, whatever their insignia … Nazism, Bolshevism, Fascism, or Communism. 'Incapacity of the masses.' This is a point on which reactionaries of all colors are in perfect agreement… and this agreement is exceedingly significant."
- Voline

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

This is obviously a first attempt to brainstorm about how to reach those covering up 9/11. Some excellent points made, and good criticisms of my hypotheses.

I would argue to Nicholas, by the way, that while China is NOW a valuable capitalist trading partner to the U.S., the hard-core miliItary hawks are foreseeing a military confrontation with China IN 20 YEARS. Reason? China will then be a superpower, challenging the U.S. for supremacy.

The Chinese are not crazies. They are very pragmatic. But they will be very powerful, and the "New American Century" will be threatened by their power.

My 2 cents, anyway.