Counterproductive activism

Spreading skepticism

That's what the truth movement is about, isn't it? Making more and more people question the official story - not only of 9/11.

When you try to reach out to another person with a message, especially of this magnitude, it's important to be able to put yourself in that person’s position. Ask yourself questions like "how does it sound to him/her, if I put it like this?" Remarkably few activists seem to be doing that.

Street action

Whenever a truth action clip gets posted here it gets about 90% positive responses, regardless of the manner in which it was carried out. Although quite understandable, since it's natural to support the ones that fight for your own cause, this is lack of objectivity.

"9/11 was an inside job!"
"Are you serious?"
"Yes, 9/11 was an inside job!"
"You're crazy"

This is the most common response to the phrase. Which means - it's ineffective. The same goes for posters and signs saying "9/11 was an inside job!”. This is because when pushing this message, you're jumping conclusions. You're too many steps ahead of the people you're trying to convert. They need to hear/see something that makes them doubtful of the official story first, something that makes them curious enough to investigate further on their own. It's then up to them to decide if 9/11 indeed was an inside job.

Which of course it was, WE all know that. But shouting it in the street is about as effective as shouting "Elvis is alive!", and you get the same reaction. People will think you're crazy.

This is where many of you will stop reading, vote me down, and move on to the next story. Please bear with me. This is important.

Many street action clips show great success when people are confronted with the strange collapse of Building 7. Yet most activists seem to choose the less effective method, believing if only enough activists make their voices heard in this way, more people will join the truth movement. Out of curiosity as of why those few activists on the street corner believe 9/11 was an inside job? I don't think so. They'll dismiss you all as crazy. They just don't know better.

In fairness to the activists that choose this method: if there would be thousands of truthers (at the same time and place), filling the streets with signs and chanting, and (only) if the mainstream media covers it - it would be effective. A sign held up by a single person behind a Fox News reporter is not successful truth activism. We might cheer and applaud it in front of our computers, and it might be encouraging to other truthers, but it does not make the movement grow one bit. No one gets curious enough to start investigating 9/11 by watching some guy holding up a sign with controversial statements on it. Although we might wish it was that easy.

Bill Maher show

To all of you (many!) who endorsed the activists interrupting this live show: look at the clip from the point of view of a "sheeple", someone who doesn't know anything about how the official story doesn't add up. Listen to the audience. Do they cheer when the activists shout their partly inaudible questions, or do they cheer when Maher gets to make jokes about them? Do they cheer when the activists gets thrown out? Yes, that's right, they do. What has been gained? Nothing. All publicity is NOT good publicity.

I understand that it's encouraging to watch the bravery of fellow truthers on live tv, because it is brave - I agree on that. But the sad truth is that they are only preaching the converted, they are not reaching any of the sheeple. I don't think we'll ever get anyone saying: "I got into 9/11 truth after watching the Maher show being interrupted by faceless, screaming, random people in the audience."

The damage caused by careless activism

Counterproductive means that you try to gain something, but because your method is wrong, you end up losing something instead. Yes - losing. Counterproductive activism is not harmless, it isn't just ineffective. We can't just say: "Ok, shouting 9/11 was an inside job didn't work, let's move on to some smarter campaign. We'll convert the sheeple some other way."

"9/11 was an inside job" is such a dramatic statement, that once a person hears it the first time, he/she will remember that moment. If the initial feeling is "That's crazy", it will be harder to convert that person in the future. He/she does not want to be associated with "crazy" people like us. That's why you get a lot of people refusing to conclude MIHOP, although confronted with the most obvious evidence. They just don't want other sheeple to deem them "crazy".

T-shirts - an exception (?)

A t-shirt that reads "9/11 was an inside job" might actually be serving our purpose. It can act as a conversation opener among the people you know. You then have an opportunity to point them to some of the vast amount of evidence against the official story. Wear it at work. Hopefully people will start to ask you questions.

Again, I do not believe it is effective on people in the street. To them you're just a stranger with delusions. They do not want to talk with the guy wearing the weird t-shirt.


To spread skepticism to the sheeple is not going to be successful by merely stating our point of view. The fact that 9/11 was an inside job is OUR conclusion, not theirs. To make it their conclusion, we need to help them by keep showing them the evidence. There's tons of it.
We need new slogans. How about "9/11 - Building 7!". It's a much less powerful one, I know. But it might make people think: "What the heck does that mean?", and they'll go look Building 7 up on the web. I'm sure some of you can think of even better ones.

If you still disagree with me, please - go ahead and vote me down. In fact, I could be wrong about all this. In a way I hope I am.


I cannot tell you enough how much I appreciate this sentiment. I believe it is so important to be assertive but also tactful. I know most people have looked at this enough and it seems so clear to them but you are absolutely right, we might as well be saying, "the earth is flat!" I know from experience when first trying to bring up this topic with friends and family it went nowhere and actually had a bit of an adverse effect on our relationship. Since then however I have begun approaching the situation from their perspective and with phenomenal results. Now at least a dozen friends and family members question the events of 9/11. That is twelve more people now spreading the skepticism. I want to encourage everyone to consider what is being said in this posting, I believe it could mean the tipping point. Thank you again Hedin41.

Good Truth

Here's a good example of responding to the "Conspiracy Theorist" label which has evolved into meaning crazy people theory.

Beautiful vid dude...

Excellent comments by Brian and Manny of

Thanks for sharing, best wishes



absolutely beautiful

that guy's testimony was extremey moving. I will be sure to pass along. "television 2.0"? have never heard of it.

That is a very poor response to the CT label

A MUCH better response is to ask people WHICH "conspiracy theory" they believe in:

1) The "Official Government Conspiracy Theory Story" (that 19 hijackers of middle-eastern decent conspired with Osama bin Laden and others to execute the 9/11 attacks)


2) An "alternative conspiracy theory". (with some appropriate description of that)

We need to "take back" the concept and phrase "conspiracy theory" and educate and inform and make people aware of exactly what a "conspiracy theory" is, how the phrase has been co-opted through years of disinformation to turn it into a tool of a negative, derogatory and dismissive "buzz word", and how conspiracies are prevalent in our every-day lives, from everything like the legal "Conspiracy to Commit Murder or Fraud" to conspiring to throw a friend or family member a surprise birthday party.

I do that with people in just a matter of a couple of minutes, and it works perfectly and beautifully 95% of the time.

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein


We had this conversation up at the 6th anniversary. This is a divisive topic within the Truth Movement however it is a discourse we must undertake. Slogans which are inquiries rather than declarations tend to be more effective. Just ask Luke Rudowski from We Are CHANGE, he will tell you about the innumerable negative reactions to the slogan "9/11 Was an Inside Job" and how those same people have said "Investigate 9/11" would be acceptable in their minds.


"There is no fury like that of a man scorned for expressing truth!"

People seem to be receptive to this Banner

Our local 9/11 Truth Group created this banner which we use at every event we host and on the "11th of Every Month Rally". We seem to be getting a better response as the "9/11 Truth" movement progresses. People are approaching us and asking for more information these days.

During the last rally in town, I noticed that people at the stop light turned their heads to really study the photo and question what it means. They actually were smiling at me instead of looking fearfully(?) away or flipping me off. I sensed that they were engaged during that wait at the stop light. This was really energizing to experience. We are taking the banner to San Francisco for the big Rally tomorrow. Wish us luck!

I agree totally....

that the ways of engagement must evolve. While there are many ways of exposing people to 9/11, you must ask yourself "If I had one chance encounter with these people, what would beg me to look into 9/11 more", would it be a group of people shouting "9/11 was an inside job" or would it be something else? For some people it can be "9/11 was an inside job", but that is more a statement leaving the audience to either agree or disagree and usually then move on. If you give them a question (like the example above) then they have something to work on themselves and ponder. In my opinion opening the mind to questioning this topic is the hardest challange, once the catalyst of a well placed question is in place, people will examine and eventually come to our side.

Aside from convincing people we also must formulate stratagies to activate and mobilize people, listen to tucker carlson 12% of US agree 9/11 = inside job. Where you only have a small (but growing) number of activists! if we got 1% of the population in the streets every 11th it would be groundbreaking. This is one reason why I love cosmos and Just like how the german population was paranoid that they all had a stazi file, when only a very small proportion did, the social stigma surrounding "conspiracy" is something that we need to change, in some cases the bill marh type confrontation might work, but also hurts..... a lot of people wouldn't consider that civil (and the crouds reaction to his terrible remarks [Ass kicking is what is called for here] goes to show that), and to get most people on our side we must prove that we can be civil and they should stand with us (literally on the street, and in marches and such)

Other ways to move into a more positive direction of engaging instead of confronting are:
Music ---- think about all the great songs of antiwar of the 60s, and think about the contrast that singing positive songs has as opposed to chanting
Quotes: many great quotes can be put in context from GREAT men in the past (some examples)
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance" - Albert Einstein
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" ---- T Jefferson
“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” --- MLK Jr.
Reverse sphyc: "Don't investigate 9/11 if ...... You support protracted wars, You like your liberties being eroded, You like our national resources being deferred for war instead of domestic needs, etc....."

I would like to see a shirt that has "Only the truth (one line could be arcing), Will Set (another line), US (big and block like with the filling of the flag underneith) Free (under the US) investigate 9/11, on the back you could have any number of quotes (I like the einstein one) to promote people to investigate for themselvs.

Great post, should be discussed more often

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." ---- Mark Twain

Call for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission

People would be more willing and less fearful of adopting the views of 911 Truth activists if they felt they were calling for forgiveness rather than retribution and punishment.

The peace movement should call for granting amnesty from prosecution and guarantee of an ample, lifetime pension to anyone who agrees to testify on their roles in the events of 9/11, extending this offer to any members of the US government, foreign governments and/or terrorist groups involved in the planning or execution of the attacks of that day.

Additionally, individuals should step forward and volunteer to spend time working with those who give testimony on crimes they have committed so that they might be reintegrated into society.

Instead of executing Nazi war criminals we should have devoted all the human resources available to us to rehabilitating them, awakening in them awareness of the nature of their actions so that they could have come to understand that they must make amends. If they had remained alive they would have been a living testament to the transformative powers of forgiveness.

Historians and psychologists especially should come out in favor of preserving invaluable study material in the form of the opportunity to converse with the authors of unfortunate historical deeds.

A declaration of willingness to forgive would force the government's hand. If it were to arrest or make attempts to discredit someone calling for 911 truth plus forgiveness, that would be a tacit acknowledgement by the government of its complicity in the 9/11 attacks. Imagine the impact of footage on YouTube of police arresting demonstrators carrying signs reading: "I forgive you George Bush for 9/11 . Perhaps even the passively complicit mainstream media could be convinced to show someone carrying a sign calling for amnesty for the perpetrators of 9/11.

If we consider ourselves morally superior to the government, we should propose actions and attitudes that are more humanitarian with respect to them than their actions have been with respect to us.

I strongly suspect that the white apartheid government in South Africa did not agree to fair elections until assured that they would not be executed or imprisoned by the black majority government when it came to power.

In "The Art of War", Sun Tzu said never to surround an enemy. If you do not leave him an out, he will fight to the last man

Finally, these ideas do not depend on the media for their dissemination. If you can convince six friends of the merit of these ideas and get them to tell six of their own friends tomorrow, each of whom tells six of their friends the next day, and so on, then the ideas will reach every person in the world in two weeks by word of mouth alone (do the math).

(to see an interesting discussion of these ideas, please see

Calling people "sheeple" is counter-productive.


I was thinking that as well.

I was thinking that as well. However the message is clear and in my opinion very appropriate. Time is of the essence and we need to start adapting our strategy's to be more effective, more cunning, more thoughtful, and more persuasive, by all means necessary.

Quote an authority

During the Podhoretz book signing someone in the audience referred to General Wesley Clark calling for an new investigation of 9/11 - that's a good start. It would be better to quote his exact words on George Stephanopolous's show, or any of the other military experts on patriotsquestion911 like Col. Bowman. My favorite is pilot Robin Hordin whose quote has no come back. If you quote the exact words and state where it was stated or written, then the person you are trying to convince is actually arguing with an authority. If more people at the Podhoretz signing quoted other experts, then it would have been even harder for him to answer.

You're absolutely right

I'll stay clear of that term in the future. It's just that I've seen it used here, and I never reflected on how it sounds.

To clarify, I think the author has many good points...

I was calling attention to one aspect that undermines the otherwise solid thesis.


How many people here believe this statement is true?



There are many ways to OPEN PEOPLE'S EYES.

I have been on this for over 6 years, since the DAY of the attacks.



THE TRUTH about the Kennedy Assasination. Which most people by now KNOW the Oswald story is a farce.

If "THEY" can kill their own President in broad daylight on TV "live", how about 3000 people?

That worked.

So there are many many DIFFERENT ways. Your methods are effective for a certain demographic.

So ARE the the methods used at the BILL MAHER SHOW.

Look at the Tucker Carlson video and SEE HIS REACTION.


If there is a murder in your house, you would shout MURDERER!

There are MASS murderers in the WHITE HOUSE.


Are you kidding me?

Telling the world 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB is NOT Preaching to the Choir.

It is stating the Simple Absolute TRUTH. TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO HEAR IT MOST.



Those 200 over FEMA camps are not there for protection of the citizenry.

WHAT is CONTROLLING the USA now is the AMERICAN people's worst enemy ever.

Worse than the Soviets & Nazi's COMBINED.

Being polite about it is NOT GOING TO SAVE YOUR LIVES.

Watch Endgame- Blue Print for Global Enslavement.

I hate to say this but it is HIGH time for some of us 911 Truthers to wake up and realize the URGENCY of this matter and stop criticising OTHERS for their SUCCESS.


MAHER had it coming with his Paxil comments. You seem to have forgotten that.

Let's not be apologists for gatekeepers.

Have we forgotten what Mark Twain said so easily?

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

The keywords: scarce, hated and scorned.

That is what happened on the MAHER show.


We are not here to be applauded like the gatekeepers.


And that is coming. Because more and more people will realize the answer for 911 is 1776.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at

I BELIEVE that statement is

I BELIEVE that statement is true, I believe 911 was an inside job... but I do not Know it was an inside job. There is a difference. And for me that is why I support the 911 truth movement, to go from believing 911 was an inside job to absolutely knowing it was. Alternatively I can appreciate your assuredness and understand why you feel the way you do. I'm not an apologist and I certainly agree people can and should do whatever they want with regard to protest (within reason). However I know I am not alone in this feeling so I am encouraging those who might feel the same to consider these ideas.

Yes and no ... and no.

You admit that different approaches work for different people, yes?

But does this approach work for most people, or does it do more harm than good?

Are you making enemies faster than you can make allies?

Now Maher is an asshole, and a gatekeeper, and he showed that he is essentially ignorant, a bully, and a spokesman for the corporate media cover up (in league with Bush et al.)

And he had it coming.

Still does.

But I still think that the Maher protest could have been handled better than it was. A large group should wait for an opportune time (rather than shouting over a congresswoman) and they should walk to the stage en masse, with some props, and have that "debate" on live tv. Make it difficult for them to remove everyone quickly, and get a clear message out there that the "censorship of the 9/11 cover up and lies must stop."

After all, that is the point of addressing Maher. The only thing he can do (and should do) to respond to us is have a debate, pull his head out of his ass and have a show with some dissenters (Griffin, Jones and other authors would be preferrred).

That puts the issue in a clear context. His censorship breeds a response. If there's nothing there, then he shouldn't be afraid of hearing out OUR experts.

But he is afraid. They all are.

I hate to admit this, but the last time I can recall a loose cannon "truther" (presumed) on the air was James Fetzer on Hannity telling about Norman Mineta and the plane coming into the pentagon.

The next day Norman Mineta resigned from the Bush regime. I shit you not.

Whether that was Fetzer establishing street cred, so as to mislead later, I don't know.

I just state the facts.

I agree. Whatever it takes.

To quote :

"But I still think that the Maher protest could have been handled better than it was. A large group should wait for an opportune time (rather than shouting over a congresswoman) and they should walk to the stage en masse, with some props, and have that "debate" on live tv. Make it difficult for them to remove everyone quickly, and get a clear message out there that the "censorship of the 9/11 cover up and lies must stop."

After all, that is the point of addressing Maher. The only thing he can do (and should do) to respond to us is have a debate, pull his head out of his ass and have a show with some dissenters (Griffin, Jones and other authors would be preferrred).

That puts the issue in a clear context. His censorship breeds a response. If there's nothing there, then he shouldn't be afraid of hearing out OUR experts.

But he is afraid. They all are."

I agree a large group of Truthers walking on to the stage and forcing a "live tv" debate would have a bigger impact.

This seems to be an even more RADICAL step / move than shouting 911 was an inside job.

Totally agree with that suggestion.

Bill Clinton was confronted again in Minnesota.

So it looks like we have to step up the gears.

But I still applaud Wearechangela for their courage and efforts.

We have to persist and hit them from every angle imaginable.

I understand there is a need to refine our methods.

Let us however not put people down for their boldness.

Many methods but ONE TRUTH.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at

I Agree - with everyone

I think what happened on Maher's show was absolutely fantastic just the way it happened (and will undoubtedly be positive for the movement), and I also think people's ideas for future action are excellent - but I would encourage people to focus on ways of improving and less on criticizing others' techniques.



Many ways to skin a rat.

As long as we skin those rats in high office and the roaches in the media, I have no problem what METHOD is used.

A more sensitive approach is fine, I have used the "soft" approach to open the eyes and ears of a number of people.

The hard-hitting Alex Jones style also works fine for a different group of people.

There is no ONE BEST WAY.

But as long as we keep trying and working on different methods the BREAKTHROUGHS will come.

hedin41 has some good ideas. So do those bold people from wearechangela who have forced reactions like what we saw from Tucker Carlson.

There is a symphony of methods to attack and expose the liars and criminals out there.

But one conductor.

That is the quest for Truth and Justice for those Dead and Dying since that Terrible Tuesday who have us as their ONLY Voices for Justice.

Not FoxMsnbcAbcCNNCbs.

As Long as the Conductor Never Stops, Victory is Inevitable
The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at

"But as long as we keep

"But as long as we keep trying and working on different methods the BREAKTHROUGHS will come."

Exactly. What we can't worry about is what epithets are thrown at us by talking heads. (The one time DRG was on a network -- employing his usual soft, scholarly tone -- he was ridiculed as a nutcase.) More than one person on Blogger has stated that either they themselves or people within their networks were inspired to look into the issues of 9/11 by the Fox types in order to prove the "conspiracy nuts" wrong. When they looked at the evidence, they switched.

The more the fake journalists are forced to sound like shrill nutcases themselves, the more some people will believe their defense of the OCT sounds a bit off.

At the same time, I don't like the Inside Job chant. It's shorthand for "criminal elements" to people within the movement, but can sound to outsiders as though we're imputing the planning and execution to a Chimp in Chief who is incapable of executing correct syntax.

I have a button pinned to my purse which has elicited the best responses so far. It says:

What about WTC7

It prompts people to ask ME a question, putting the shoe on the other foot. The conversation takes off with a completely different dynamic -- some don't even know that it's going to have anything to do with 9/11. But hey, they asked me, so they don't act aggrieved when I simply answer the question.

I know the subject of the phone calls makes some people uncomfortable, but the best personal activism I've ever done was while travelling by plane this summer (3 times). I kept my cell phone on during take-off (yeah, I know). When we got out of reception range before 5,000 feet I said loudly to my teenage son "I don't get how all those cell phone calls were made from cruising altitude on 9/11. I can't ever get any reception within minutes of take-off. What part of this picture am I not getting?" Then I held it up over my seat and kept moving it around trying to get a connection. You'd be amazed how many people surreptitiously pulled out their phones and turned them on to check it out for themselves. The last time I went to the back of the plane where the attendants were gathered and said loudly, "Excuse me, I can't seem to get any reception on my cell phone." One of them said, "It won't work up here, we aren't equipped with the new technology." I looked at them incredulously and said "Well then how did the passengers make all those cell calls on 9/11?" They got the deer-in-the-headlights look and didn't respond. I said (again loudly), "Jeez, no WONDER so many people question the official story. Maybe they have a point. I might have to start looking into it myself." By the time I got to my seat the entire back of the plane was abuzz and most of them had their cell phones out, craning to listen to our ensuing conversation. I never let on that I was a truther; we discussed things as though we were considering them for the first time. It felt great to plant those seeds without a hint of confrontation!

My son even admitted that while drawing the attention embarrassed him a little, it hit home to him as well. He thought he'd processed everything he'd learned about 9/11, but he said he didn't believe it in his gut until he held that phone on an airplane. Maybe experiencing is believing. Or not believing.

I'd love to hear others' stories of smaller, more personal actions. Overt demonstrations and truth squadding are wonderful, but these little victories are empowering as well.


Excellent psychological method to get people to THINK.

Reverse Psychology. Excellent.

I have done this sly seed planting too and it works hysterically well!

Yeah, when they finally open those JFK files we will probably find out Al-Qaeda did it.
Not Oswald.

Just like those fires in California right? Fox News is the Fifth Gospel according to G.O.D.


G. O. D. Bless America.

Yes, if you own Haliburton, Blackwater, DynaCorp, Lockheed Martin, Northtrop and other elements of the Military Industrial Complex.

Btw, don't believe reports that the Saudis have left the Carlyle group.

They haven't. And Haliburton did not MOVE to Dubai because of the scenery.

That bumper Opium Crop in NATO controlled Afghanistan.

That is just G.O.D's way to say be frutiful and multiply.

Those cellphones that WORKED on 911 at cruising altitude?

Of Course they DID.

That was a MIRACLE.


G. O. D.


You are in D.C and that is the hot seat allright.

Keep it up.

We are going to WIN.

Even if it takes wry humour.

Just remember how well those tax dollars were spent on the that pet goat story at Booker Elementary.

Probably G. O.D's favourite pet.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at

44 years ago


A new book on that other big inside job should interest many if not most in the 911 movement. It is "Praise From a Future Generation / The Assassination of John F. Kennedy and the First Generation Critics of the Warren Report" by John Kelin (Wings Press, San Antonio). Those pioneers are followed in detail -- their motivations, methods, triumphs, problems and eventual schisms. Lots of good lessons from the events which in so many ways shaped our current mess and attempts at repair.

Yes, Constitution911

The WeAreChange "hecklers and protestors'" on the Maher show were awesome. so too bad, if it was uncomfortable. the anger, urgency, and passion were way too important at a time like this! do not be intimidated by the applause for Mr. Bill...there were probably many others in their seats exclaiming or thinking "what are you applauding him for? maybe these people are right! maybe they have something here! i've been seeing and hearing more more about them on all tv and in the news...hmmm"

I almost totally agree

that spreading skeptisism among the people is the most important goal of the 911 truth movement.
I also agree that the phrase "911 indide job" might not be the most effective for "newcomers".
But I do disagree that the Maher incident "hurts" the movement. The movement has always been condemned by the gatekeepers and unknown to the largest amount of people.

The Maher incident was ass-kicking specially aimed at the gatekeepers and was effective considering the media coverage which even criticizes Maher for his bad conduct. The Maher-audience might also have learned something despite laughing at the truthers at that moment.

The Maher incident was truth action aimed at the "ruling elite" not the public.
The truth movement should be doing both, attacking the elite and convince the people.
These two go hand in hand and will amplify each other.

Fact is, This FACT: "911 Was an INSIDE JOB" is...

seeping in to the hard-boiled psyches of those duped by the murderous con artists.
By repeated exposure to this meme the unconscious mind is considering the possibility.
On a deep level Truth is known. The brainwashing is superficial.

The Psychological Resistance of the Conscious Mind is being infiltrated by the TRUTH and is being



Thank you, Joe. This is something we must not forget.

I honestly believe that flooding the subconscious is of paramount importance. It is the main tactic used by the MSM to sell everything from wars to toothpaste.

Our goal should be to say it all, in every way possible and as often as we can. Everyone in this country needs to hear a sliver of 911 Truth every day, be it inside job, nine-eleven, building seven or any one of a thousand possible succinct declarations. No-one is hearing this from our media, and will not until the people demand it.

I honestly doubt there is harm done by even the most extreme tactics. To the subconscious mind, it is all just another brick in the wall, and as that wall grows, so does the conscious curiosity.

Isn’t it interesting that none of us believes that investigating the facts of 9/11 will lead anyone to support the official government story. We all know that the battle lies in just getting people to look at the facts. And if everyone in the country hears just one reference to 9/11 Truth every day, the floodgates will open.

I encourage all of us to be cognizant of these facts and redouble our efforts in this arena. Whether you choose to shout “inside job”, or take a gentler approach, rest assured that someone will hear and respond. We are building the wall of truth, one brick at a time, and no effort is wasted.

And finally I would like to suggest that whenever groups get together for street action using posters and banners, the visual punch is extremely important. How about a sea of mostly identical signs, all with the heading of “Did You Know?”, but each with a different fact.

Did You Know?
3 buildings fell on 9/11, not 2
No bodies were found in Pennsylvania
Explosions rocked the towers before the planes hit
Most of the hijackers are still alive
War games were conducted in NYC on 9/11
The Patriot Act was written before 9/11

….and on and on and on. It will take the average spectator some time to digest it all, and by then curiosity is piqued and the wheels are turning.

At any rate, my friends, may Godspeed our efforts and restore our nation to its former glory.

Bless you all.

I'd like to believe that but...

One could argue that the truth about the JFK assassination has seeped into the psyches of a solid majority of Americans. But to what end? The official line of the Warren Commission Report is still what the history books carry, and the criminal activities just continue. I think there was probably a moment in the 70's when the thinking of the masses shifted against the official line (when they first showed the Zapruder film to the public), but the Earth did not open up. There were no riots in the streets. And life went on, with Poppy Bush taking the helm (even after possibly attempting to ascend a little faster by knocking of Reagan).

While the truth of the JFK assassination may have "seeped into

the psyches of a solid majority of Americans" the deeper implications clearly have not, and that is the critical difference.

One politician was murdered by nameless forces 40 years ago for a variety of murky reasons versus almost 3,000 in broad daylight on network tv for much more obvious reasons, many of which are now working there way into the public's consciousness. In the matter of 9/11 we can even point with relative certainty to some very likely suspects [certain NORAD officials and Cheney (via the Mineta testimony)].

Every American is confronted by some effect of 9/11 and the 9/11 wars whereas I don't think many people felt directly affected (other than the emotional blow) by the murder of JFK (and that was generations removed from the realization of truth).

Do you really want the "earth to open up"?

I hope that you and yours are well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

I'm not sure what you mean

by "do I want the Earth to open up". I think in some ways it has. We are in a state of permanent war that has become the excuse for all sorts of imperial agendas. Our candidates for high office talk about torture as it is just another tool in the arsenal. Our President causally implies that WW III is right around the corner.

But where's the public outrage? In that sense, the Earth hasn't opened up. The only people actively protesting all this crap are easily labeled as kooks and anarchists. It's high time for Mom and Pop to take to the streets, but that won't happen unless they start a draft, and Bush (and his successors) will avoid that by buying the armies they need.

I do hope to find peace for my family. I'm just not sure which planet it will be on.

They may have to hear "Inside Job" 100 times before they listen

People who have reasons not to want to believe 911 was an inside job can be very hard to get through to. It isn't the fault of the vehicle, it's the problem with the wall the vehicle is crashing in to.

We are up against life long indoctrination as well as a vested interest in believing the OCT. I don't think it's the end of the game if they get turned off the first time they hear 9/11 inside job. It might be the 100th time that they think, wow, all these people are saying it, maybe there is something to it.

In many cases you only have time or space for a few words. I have designed bumper stickers that say "Remember 9/11 - was an inside job." The first line is purposely easier to read than the 2nd one, which might help get around their resistance a little.

Lately I've done small labels you can stick on the back of envelopes, just about anywhere.

You can see both types at I sell them at cost, just 20 cents for bumper sticker and half a cent for labels.

9/11 - Building 7 is a great slogan. I will use it on a label design.

I usually tell

people...Have you seen that stuff about 9/11? Whoa!
I am not tell you what to believe,but there's alot of stuff there that needs to be explained.
You need to spark curiosity,and do it in a non-pushy way.
If it's a co worker say hey check it out. Id love to here what you think. I know the ones that do.They come running back with a holy shit show me more responce.
I like truthing while standing in a long line at a store. Hey! Have you seen any of that stuff about 9/11?
WHOA!... A person can tell when some is truely interested. They ask questions.Some even follow you out of the store.
Yes then you have others that give you the deer in the headlights look...
Want an opinion?...Try an educated opinion.
Look at both sides!

I have used such methods myself

This is a soft method that is effective in a personal way.

I have used such methods to arouse people to start re-thinking on what they saw , heard and were told about that day.

It works effectively. This is smart targeted bombing.

Sometimes even REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY WORKS. It depends on the targeted audience.

I have seen people change their support for the OCT when the see how ridiculous my "support" of the
OCT is. Sarcasm sometimes hits home where nothing else does.

19 men with pen-knifes or box-cutters as they say against the USAF, NORAD, NRO, CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA etc with realtime satelitte coverage over critical infrastructure 24/7 - with an 1 hour window to hit the PENTAGON on a COMMERCIAL JETLINER AFTER the 1st WTC HIT without interception?


Governments never lie. Neither does the media. Right?

Many many methods. I am a strong believer in surgical methods of convincing people.


That is carpet bombing and sometimes you just HAVE to do it.


The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at


....I guess the topic is use your head! I seen a shirt that said.....Got Brains? Use them! Google 9/11 Press for truth.
I seen another one that said......9/11 Towers...Where's the concrete?

9-11 Building 7

Such a nice ring to it. We may be witnessing a great turning right now. The poll numbers on Beck's website were astounding. The world is currently dumping dollars at a frenzied pace, showing a complete lack of faith in Federal Reserve Notes. Living in the US, it's hard to estimate world sentiment, but I feel the planet is just about fed up with these goons.

Mr. Greenback, would you have a source for your highly excellent video?

2.0 Television

Check out.

Now why is it that I LOVE the alternative media.

I am glad you mentioned the poll numbers on Beck's site - up to high 70's and low 80's b4 he pulled it.


NOW this poll was provoked by the BILL MAHER INCIDENT.

We have Wearechangela to thank for that.

It is called death by a thousand cuts and it works.

The BEAST MACHINERY that is strangeholding the US will have to be hit from every angle imaginable.

Most Americans are still not awake FULLY YET even some 911 Truthers.

There are hundreds of FEMA camps out there that were never designed for Islamic Terrorists - homegrown or otherwise.

The Patriot ACTs were never designed for the TALIBAN and were written well b4 911.


That is why some people raise their voices in order to SAVE MILLIONS OF LIVES.

LOOK carefully who owns most of the ports in the USA, a large percentage of the stock exchanges.

Just 1 key Royal Family from the Mid-East owns up to 10% of the American Economy.

How about Haliburton moving to Dubai?

Connect the dots.

911 is just one factor in a long - term plan.

Just remember the Bin Ladin Construction Firm in its various guises did & does much of the construction work of US bases in the Mid-East.

One wonders why Bush and the Saudi Royals are so close.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz also known as Prince Bandar Bush.

This is an interesting article for those who have yet to see the role of the House of Saud
BEHIND the Bush Dynasty.

IRAQ is & was a RIVAL to the Saudis.

Sunni - Wahhabi Saudi Arabia have a lot to gain from a weakened / subjugated Shiite Iran.

There HAVE also tons to gain from the escalating energy costs.

Especially as oil output in controlled and managed from Iraq with its "liberation"

American blood and treasure has been spilled.

The Constitution ripped to shreds. The national economy on the brink of disaster with a potential dollar collapse.

I wonder if the Saudi's are laughing all the way to the bank.

To ignore them as a player in all of this will be naive.

At least 14 for the 19 supposed hijackers were from Saudi Arabia on "express" VISA's.


Impeaching Bush and Chenney will not solve the whole problem. It will be a step but the real enemies are much higher up.

There are many players behind the shadows that created the darkness of 911.

Our movement is going to shed LIGHT on this.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at



Nothing Wrong with "I don'no"

For those who do street action, please try not to cover everything... it is impossible. Each of us should do our homework, and try to specialize in certain aspects of the 9/11 before hitting the streets. I myself have a background in physical science, and frankly, I don't really understand the politics behind the whole thing... so when I start talking to beginners I restrict myself to the area that I understand the best (physical evidence).... If they ask me about other aspects, well, the answer is "I DON'T KNOW". This is a phrase that none of us should be afraid to use.

With all the respect that I have towards Alex Jones and what he does, I don't like the fact that he always seems so sure about everything: from 9/11 to global warming to AIDS to secret societies... If you have answers to every question, some of them ought to be wrong. Let's not go this way.

I gave 10/10 to this post, even though I think the Bill Maher show infiltration was a great step.

Good post...

This is a valid post, debating and refining activism tactics can only be good for the movement.
The idea of a mass infiltration of a future event could be very effective, people in different spots in the audience asking questions and supporting each other vocally.
I thought the Maher episode was great, the tactics were a little crude but i'm sure many
people will watch that and wonder what hot topic these guys were silenced and thrown out for. It will get people talking and asking questions...this is good.
Glenn Beck poll was priceless....we should challenge more of these shills to prove whether they are representative of the popular view on 9/11 by polling their audiences.

"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past"
George Orwell 1984

At Last

Any strategy must adapt to survive. and The "9/11 Was an Inside " Slogan is just too easy to mentally put aside and ignore. I don't know who started it, but I would seriously consier this slogan as a form of control, and points to infiltration from the very start of this movement. No educated person is going to jump to that conclusion, just because they see it on a poster, in fact it probably does more harm than good, if you consider the main reasion for street activism is to encourage more people to look at the facts for themselves. This Slogan Presumes WE already know the answers, (we may, but that doesn't help the recruitment cause.) Look at the new Memebers on this Web Site, 2007 looks like a poor year for New Members and a decline for the first time since 9/11.

I recomend we have a contest and an On-Line vote to come up with a New "Mantra" for our movement, something a weasle politician may actual agree to.

Who sets the rules around

Who sets the rules around here anyway, and how many more will we see before these discussions play out? Those people on Real Time had seriously big balls and I applaud them. You can't start telling people who are willing to put their asses into the public arena and take the risk what they can and cannot say. The polite, respectful whispering campaign doesn't work by itself. Citizen action and civil disobedience like Real Time needs to happen so much that we have to be dealt with either way. You're fighting the entire power structure, so please stop appealing to that structure to listen to soemthing that may take it down.

The civil rights movement finally worked when the bottom line of the ruling class was affected by the bus boycott, when people got their asses kicked on TV, when thousands and thousands marched on D.C. with fists in the air, shouting for their voices to be heard.

People need wake-up calls. Otherwise, this movement will eventually fail.

thank you Jay. you clearly

thank you Jay. you clearly "get it" for lack of a better phrase.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

spend as much time activating as you do bitching...

... and you may have a fraction of the effect those souls in Television City did.


I don't think evaluating our methods falls under the category "bitching". But your comment does...

Things not going as well as you planned these days, are they?


October 3rd Show of Truth Revolution Radio devles into just this

MP3 - 00:49:05 16Kbps mp3 (5.62MB) Mono

Summary: We discuss ways of overcoming the psychological resistance to 9/11 truth in the context of activism and outreach and talk to activists kdub and Andrew.
Credits: The Journal of 9/11 Studies web site is here:

Laurie A. Manwell's document, Faulty Towers of Belief: Part I. Demolishing the Iconic Psychological Barriers to 9/11 Truth, can be downloaded from here:

Part 2, Rebuilding the Road to Freedom of Reason is here:
Notes: Archive of past shows:
Truth Action web site:
Truth Action Forum:
Truth Revolution: The Eleventh of Every Month

I completely agree, and for those of you...

who feel we are attacking or demoralizing 911 truth activists. We are not. We are all in this together and we need to work together so that we may find truth together. Whether that be the soft-spoken skeptic or the "tell it like it is" inside-jober. Lets not let this turn into another "Planes Vs. no Planes" or "explosives Vs. Space weapons". We're all on the same team and our team is kickin some serious ass so long as we stay united under the banner of 911 truth!


Check out Cognitive Dissonance on Wikipedia. Those who shove the "inside job" conclusion in stranger's faces will be met with complete shock and denial ... no matter how true we know it to be, it will be believed as much as a sign proclaiming "The Aliens Are Among Us" or "The Holocaust Was Faked".

Something that is completely outside of a person's belief system is going to be absolutely rejected. Period.

For those who hate the term "conspiracy theories," as I do, think of it this way - a sign that says "inside job" is exactly that - you are proclaiming your conclusion, and expecting people to believe it without having seen the research you have seen and gone through the paradigm shift that most of us have had to go through. It is completely playing into the "conspiracy theory" frame that we're trying to avoid.

So my take is -- let's NOT offer any conclusions. Don't say it was an inside job. Don't say who you think is behind it. Don't say that the buildings were brought down by explosives or controlled demolition. Don't say that there wasn't a plane hitting the Pentagon. Don't say that they must have used voice-morphing for the phone calls supposedly from Flight 93.

These conclusions must be reached by the person you are communicating with. Feed them the evidence, the interest in asking the questions, the doubts, the support they'll need. But LET PEOPLE COME TO THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS. If we let them, they will discover what we have discovered, but it won't be such a bitter pill to swallow because it's not somebody shoving it down their throat.

If english would have been my native language

that's what I would have said. You should make your thoughts on this a blog entry, we need to discuss this much more. I've been reading almost every blog here for over a year, and the lack of this subject is what prompted me to write mine.

"Flooding the subconscious" that someone mentioned here... is nothing but wishful thinking. If that was possible... WE'd all be in danger of the mainstream media flooding OUR subconscious with the OCT.

dw, your comment has 1 point from me, but if I could I would add a couple of zeros after it!

I agree that we shouldn't be

I agree that we shouldn't be rude when confronting the average person when it comes to 9/11 Truth. That certainly would turn me off too. But when you're dealing with either willful ignorance or flatout deception the rules change. That's what we are witnessing with the confrontations with people like Bill Maher, Philip Zelikow, Nancy Pelosi, both Clintons and their cronies. I support 'most' of the actions of groups like We Are Change. I really admire their courage and determination although I do think that simply yelling out "Clinton, you're globalist scum", "The New World order is going down" and endlessly chanting "9/11 was an inside job" are not productive.

Instead cite facts:

• Why did building 7, that wasn't struck by an airplane, fall in 6.5 seconds (almost freefalf speed)?
• How do you explain that according to the 'official government's conspiracy theory', the laws of physics would have had to be suspended for that to occur?
• Why do many eyewitnesses report hearing explosions and bright flashes of light as the 3 buildings fell?
• What caused the molten metal found in the basement of all three building in NYC?
• Why do eyewitnesses state that what they saw at the Pentagon did not resemble the debris from a Boeing commercial aircraft?
• What do you think of Steven E. Jones' research showing all the telltale signs of thermate being used at the World trade Center buildings?
• Why do military personnel (like former fighter pilot Colonel Bob Bowman) say that there was no reason for the failure of NORAD with the intervention of Pentagon officials?
• Why did NORAD give three different timelines for their response on 9/11?

These are things that you can use to educate and confront people with. Calling them 'globalist scum' does nothing. This would be my approach.

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

Get their attention, and keep it

There's a very old joke, and probably not a good one. In fact, I don't remember exactly how it goes. But it's something like this:

Before there were cars, a man paid to have some of his things hauled by a mule-drawn cart. The man shook the reins, but the mule wouldn't budge. He then shouted and slapped the mule's backside, but nothing happened.

Finally the muledriver, who'd brought the mule and cart, walked over and faced the mule while holding a big board. He slammed the mule as hard as he could between the eyes with the flatside of the board.

The first man jumped up excitedly. "Why'd ya do that?" he exclaimed.

"First thing you gotta do," replied the muledriver calmly, "is get their attention."

In getting 9/11 truth out to the larger public, the first thing is to get their attention. Now, if you're someone here who gets people to pay attention, fine. Keep it up.

And if you get people's attention, but generally alienate those same people, you need another approach.

But if you're not getting attention to 9/11 truth, you might as well stay home.

Unfortunately, there are those out there whose idea of spreading the word is saying something they find thought-provoking, but which most people couldn't care less about. They'll say, "Did you hear about how the president of Pakistan wired some Arab terrorist lots of money?"

Or, "Did you know the 9/11 Commission left lots of questions unanswered?"

Well, uh, government commissions always leave lots of questions unanswered.

And why should people get excited about someone whose name they can't even pronounce wiring money on the other side of the earth to someone else whose name they can't pronounce either?

If you read through a major newspaper, there are always "questions" being raised about this or that, and intimations of shady dealings here and there. That's just business as usual in this big, confusing, and corrupt world. Trying to piggyback 9/11 truth onto that is a nonstarter.

But most people would care if they knew that the WTC imploded because it was painstakingly (and very expensively) rigged to do so. Most people would care if they knew there was a profoundly ahistorical order to prevent the otherwise-routine interceptions of off-course jetliners. And so forth.

Get your audience's attention. (Yes, sometimes that means appearing a bit weird or obnoxious.) And keep their attention by talking about stuff that doesn't just sound like routine news blather. (Sounding like some geek of the obscure won't convert novices to the cause. But once people are already hooked up with 9/11 truth, such details -- the 9/11 Commission whitewash and the wiring of funds -- will begin to assume significance.)


When people see others carrying signs that say "9/11 Was an Inside Job", it creates the impression that there are more people 'out there' who think 9/11 was an inside job.

Hence, this type of activism is persuassive.

As our numbers increase, our visibility will incease, causing more people to take an objective look.

No and Yes

In some ways the Earth has opened up. We are in a very dangerous and difficult time, where torture is considered a serious tool by candidates for high office and the current President casually suggests the start of World War III. What hasn't opened up is the stream of protests from ordinary citizens. Most people go along their merry way and leave it to the "kooks" to protest.

I think a draft is the only thing that will get mom and pop into the streets.


This is a great article hedin41.
This is what is needed much more in the truth movement. Any movement. any organization of any kind.
A lot of what I'm going to say here may sound like captain obvious drivel...but I feel a lot of people don't like it when someone points out that there are problems with our methods that we need to solve.

Any good business or company has an auditor...or an inspection. Minimize loss.
Usually the employees of that company despise inspections because it means they actually have to be held to do their job properly so they don't fail the inspection and get wrote up or fired.
The same goes for this movement. Any type of constructive criticism to the 'regular job' given to the 'employees' of the 'company', is read as 'god they want everything of me'...when it's more akin to doing what you should be doing to help the cause of the organization...not just whatever you feel like so long as it looks like you're busy.
I remember my days in the military. There were many inspections, of many different types. During such inspections, we'd do just whatever was necessary so that it passed the inspection. Right after, we'd go back to business as usual...and discrepancies would pile up again for the next inspection..
The point was if you took the guidelines seriously, you would be running a tight ship, never having to worry about a surprise inspection, say an informal one by the commander of your unit taking a stroll through your workcenter. That way when you really have a shit-ton of work to do, you do just that, and not the extra shit-ton worrying about if everything else is acceptable or not.
Also with any successful cause, change is inevitable. Changing the style in the way you do things is required because everything else changes. There are always better ways to do stuff, so that when someone suggests change, it should be welcomed and explored.

If people have a problem with that, discuss alternatives or better ways, and come to conclusions. Which is happening of course.
Not just disagreement and griping.
I still get the impression people are just tired of being criticized, held to a higher standard. They think 'freedom of speech' or whatever is their excuse to do whatever inefficient action they want. It's not very good logic. It's laziness and emotional attachment. Also a lot of people are thinking that because 9/11 was so heinous, we must act in any loud way imaginable so that the message gets out there one way or another. It's not efficient.
Stop thinking in terms of black and white and consider the shades of gray. While you might be getting the message out to some people, are you getting it to the most people as possible? If you think some is the most, you're acting in accordance to the minimal standard. You must do whatever rakes in REAL attention. Not just attention. In business terms, it's not accounting profit that matters, you must make economic profit. You can't just cover your costs, but the profit foregone had you not bothered with the business to begin with.

This is why I applaud the efforts of Jim Hoffman in his pages detailing what is wrong with the no-757-at-pentagon theory and his Loose Change review as well as his other contributions that criticize patriotsquestion911 and no-plane-theory.

I'd also like to point out the use of devil's advocates. Often a lot of people in the truth movement will deride the debunker brigade. Not often is there discussion on where they are right and where we are wrong. It's just they're wrong and we're right.
The key to strengthening a cause is to consider the part of the opposition, then see how to deal with it. It's just like red team vs. blue team in computer security. One team is sent to hack the system, insert viruses, the other is sent to deal with it and see where their security holes lie.
What is better, shooting at paper targets or shooting at smart, moving targets?
Murphy's law is at hand here probably more than anything else. Leaving things be because you're satisfied at one point doesn't mean it's going to always be fine, because many things can happen..often ones you haven't thought of.
Besides trying to educate and 'convert' people, we must strengthen our defenses amongst tough arguments by actually considering how 9/11 being an inside job is false. Then seek out what arguments fully lay those notions to rest.
It's hard work, and that is what is expected of people who want to take on a cause with a monumental task.

"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments."
Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science, section 191
German philosophe


I very much agree with you.

"Counterproductive activism" is an oxymoron

There is more productive activism and less productive activism. (unless you're talking about violence, or something bad like that)

All publicity may not be good publicity, but "there is no such thing as bad publicity". (99% of the time)

I think the majority of your ideas and suppositions are entirely fallacious.

People like you rarely get anything done in an activist sense. I've seen your type time and time again in many different movements. You will eventually go away and the rest of us "true activists" will continue on "fighting the good fight" to the bitter end achieving much along the way.

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein

I want you to know

that reading your comment makes me sad.

Go ahead then and fight to the bitter end. It probably will be bitter if you don't take the time to evaluate what you're doing now and then.

Buck up Little Buckaroo

Regardless of what the NWO-ers claim, it's not the end of the world, it just seems like it.

Everything is going to be o-kay.

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein

Long Live "Inside Job" !

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the slogan "9/11 was an inside job". If you are getting negative feedback then you need to refine your activism techniques.

I have been wearing my own "inside job" t-shirts for a long time. I wear them when I fly on airplanes, I wear them around NYC (including ground zero). I wear them in Florida & Michigan.

The reason I get less than 5% negative comments is because of the way I conduct myself in public. When in public, I embody peace and let people approach me.

There is no slogan that inspires more questions than "9/11 was an inside job".
Try wearing a t shirt that says "investigate 9/11" and see if even one person stops to ask "why do you say that?"

Thanks hedin41 for having

Thanks hedin41 for having the courage to post this. I have been meaning to post something along the same line here. I don't agree with absolutely everything point, but most. We have to be smarter and better than the enemy if we are to get respect and have our information received ....not act as they do., especially on TV: the ultimate WMD. They control it and they wasted no time using the Mahar thing against us. Fraser Valley 9/11 Truth ...Civil Information!