Why Would REAL 9/11 Truth Activists Advocate a Work of FICTION?

From Op Ed News, article by Bill Douglas on new book, The Shell Game, by Steve Alten.

Also see http://www.amazon.com/Shell-Game-Steve-Alten/dp/1599550946/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199210383&sr=8-1

...December 31, 2007 at 10:18:34

Why Would REAL 9/11 Truth Activists Advocate a Work of FICTION?

by Bill Douglas ...

... As a mass 9/11 truth coalition effort forms around a New York Times best selling novelist's upcoming action novel, a question forms as well. Why would REAL activists, researchers, and a whistleblower advocate an action fiction novel? Yes, "The Shell Game," by Steve Alten, is a novel with much to say about anti-war and 9/11 truth issues. But, how could "fiction" serve a movement pushing a hard reality?

Serious people interested in serious facts are among this coalition. People like David Ray Griffin (famed theological and more recently 9/11 truth author), Kevin Ryan (former UL chemistry laboratory manager & NIST report whistle blower), and vast international organizations such as 911Truth.org, and Pilots for 9/11 Truth, are included in this growing mass 9/11 truth coalition. ...

"The Shell Game," is brilliant in many ways, and garnering such support for several reasons. It weaves a spell binding action fiction narrative about important issues like the lies that lead people into war, and false flag terrorism. But, it also cleverly weaves REAL quotes from real 9/11 researchers in as chapter introductions. The end result is the reader is lead to a knowing that 9/11 is NOT what they were told it is (see reviews at the end of this essay).

We've been had in a shell game alright: this is Warmonger Pulp!

Opened it in the middle. The chapter quote is from John O'Neill, saying everything you wanted to know about 9/11 was in Saudi Arabia. Great. Saudi-MIHOP.
Chapter 25 starts off introducing an Iraqi mole, working in security at Baltimore harbor. Sounds like he is biding his time to pull off an attack. Iraqi MIHOP too.
He and another Muslim character trade Sunni vs Shia insults. (Remember, that's why the US Army is there, to keep the peace between eternal enemies.)What's our oil doing under their sand?
The next page is about his home town, Haditha, where Iranians are beheading Americans. Fiction all right, but a nice Iran war pretext.
I flipped to the back. It's the year 2012. The Iranians have nukes. We're on the brink of nuclear war.
Better nuke Iran first and fast, right!
OK, 4 pages is not a large sample, but every single one is rampant, highly concentrated anti-Muslim war propaganda.
If you want to buy a REAL 9/11 Truth book or DVD - come to my website! http://www.waronfreedom.org. Anything there is 1000 times better than this!
Meanwhile can anyone explain to me how people like David Ray Griffin and the other undersigned lights of 9/11 Truth came to promote a work of war-mongering pulp fiction?
I'd like to hear what they say to these objections. Maybe they were fooled, too.
For me, certainly, it's a big disappointment, this one. All I saw was pure poison.

Geez John, wish you had read "The Shell Game" before you

Geez John, wish you had read "The Shell Game" before you attacked it, and then used it as an opportunity to advertise your website book store :-)

Anyone who's written fiction goes into various minds in various ways to create an overarching picture.

"The Shell Game's" over arching reality is that 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.

Sorry, John Leonard is slashing a work that can boost the truth movement out into the mainstream mind, without reading the book first.

Steve Alten's brilliance is in that he begins the book from a neo-con perspective, as novelists do in writing from within various character's minds, and coming from a point where the average American is . . . given the mass media propaganda machine. THEN as the journey of the book advances the myth of this "reality" is exposed.

The ugly under belly of false flag terrorism is made clear, and REAL 9/11 truth research is used to head chapters.

If John wants the mass public to demand a new 9/11 investigation . . . he's shooting himself in both feet, to attack this profound novel, "The Shell Game." and WITHOUT READING IT, before he does so, and then turning his unfounded attack into a "go to my site and buy my stuff instead" opportunity.

Folks, "The Shell Game," is a golden opportunity to expose the mass public to the certain reality WE'VE BEEN LIED TO ABOUT 9/11.

The growing coalition advocating this novel's 9/11 truth telling potential includes the most effective and dedicated heroes of the 9/11 truth efforts.

If you want 9/11 truth out there in a big way . . . you'd be shooting yourself in both feet to swollow John's attack (WHO I REMIND YOU HASN'T EVEN READ THE BOOK YET).

However, if you too joined the massive growing coalition of 9/11 truth activists and movement heroes, and get everyone you know to get "The Shell Game", you will be advancing what you want . . . A MASSIVELY EXPANDED DEMAND FOR A NEW 9/11 INVESTIGATION.


Truth is Stranger

than Fiction.

Sometimes we may need "Fiction" of a different type to open the eyes of the sleeping masses.

"Folks, "The Shell Game," is a golden opportunity to expose the mass public to the certain reality WE'VE BEEN LIED TO ABOUT 9/11."

Agreed. The lies never stopped just with 911.

After the dosage of the Fiction from the FOX guarding the media hen house, I think it is worth giving Steve Alten a chance to make an impact for 911 Truth.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

I'm changing my vote to Thumbs Up

I have to admit I jumped to conclusions. I'm not able to edit my first post, so please read this.
Kevin Barrett, who has read the whole book, filled me in.
The key point is that the two Iraqi terrorist types in the book are patsies, being run by a neo-con controller.
This is the important mole-and-patsy methodology you should know from 9/11 Synthetic Terror. Any book that helps people understand the concept of false-flag terrorism is to the good.
Rather than starting at random in the middle, I would have done better to start from the front, with the message from the author. It gives a pretty clear idea where the book is going. It's in a message Bill Douglas sent around, but I didn't realize it's in the front of the book.
That introduction helps answer the question, who is the audience. I'd say it's the 60% of people who realize something has gone very wrong in this country, but don't really know what it is.
Shell Game is pretty explicit on this, about the police state, about CIA-manufactured war pretexts, even vote fraud. So this is the right message to the right audience.
As for the depiction of Muslims that worried me, that may be necessary for the story to work and to fit in with the reader's point of departure, so that the real message can be sneaked through. The book's criticism of the Saudi monarchy is not unjustified. It looks like it probably also touches on how the US-UK empire has supported reactionaries and extremists in the Middle East.
We should support this book, it may not have an easy time. One good way to do that will be to post a review on Amazon.com and the Barnes & Noble website, BN.com.

Maybe it's MIHOP in a pulp wrap?

Kevin Barrett, who has read it, wrote me:
"It definitely isn't a trap. It's BEYOND MIHOP -- not only is it MIHOP on 9/11 but also has the neocons nuking US cities!!"
Well, that's pretty sensational. Maybe what offended me about it is exactly what will appeal to the broader public.
I'm just wondering - in the book, does Iran have nukes or not in 2012?
If it does, that could still be seen by some as a justification for "taking out Iran."
To protect us from the neocons. Or for the neocons to protect us from Iran. Or just to shoot first.
I'll try and find time to at least scan it, Bill.

Who is the audience this book will persuade?

Those that are likely to see the nuances are ALREADY on the side of truth. I'm concerned that those who want to remain in denial or who accept the Straussian logic of the neocons will only find sustenance in this book.

I guess I should try to borrow a pre-pub copy from someone so I can read it sooner rather than later and have a fully informed opinion, but pushing something before knowing what it is is ALWAYS a bad idea, IMO.

What about Israels 300+ nukes? What about the U.S.S. Liberty?

9/11 truth as FICTION, hmmm, WHY does that not sound like a good idea?

Slippery slope, anyone?

Better to hang with Joe Friday, "Just the facts,ma'am".


The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

100% agree

"Those that are likely to see the nuances are ALREADY on the side of truth. I'm concerned that those who want to remain in denial or who accept the Straussian logic of the neocons will only find sustenance in this book."

Great points LeftWright

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

Spot on, Leftwright.


Good to have you back on the job, luv.

Or should that be gov? (gov luv? luv gov? Hmmm, I digress..or do I need more hair for that?)

How are things up your way?

I have several projects in mind that could involve everyone out here on the coast.

Let's conspire, shall we?

Happy Truth Year!

All the best to you and yours.

The truth shall set us free (as long as we keep our critical thinking caps on).

Love is the only way forward. (anyone want to go backward or in circles?)

I agree! "The Shell Game" is a sham and a shill for Israel!

Subject: Re: [9-11-NeXuS] New York Times Best Selling [9/11 truth] Author of “The Shell Game” Issues New Y

Hi All,

It appears as if Steve Alten is concerned that his Zionist-approved book “The Shell Game” won’t be the big blockbuster book he had hoped it would be along the lines of “The Da Vinci Code” by Dan Brown, EVEN WITH the support of The New York Times.

First of all, let’s face it, those of us in the know with regards to who actually orchestrated the tragic events of 9-11 know that the Zionist-approved and Zionist-collaborator New York Times simply cannot be trusted as an endorser of any 9-11 Truth effort.  The New York Times is GUILTY of helping to suppress the Truth about 9-11 from DAY ONE of that tragic day.  In fact, the New York Times is an instrument of the real perps behind 9-11.  The New York Times is an Israel-firster rag and pushes Zionist propaganda day in and day out.  EVERYONE knows that.  The very fact that the New York Times touts “The Shell Game” proves in itself proves that this book must be ignored by serious 9-11 Truth seekers.

Not only does the New York Times suppress the Truth about 9-11, but it also suppresses the Truth about the racist, apartheid, Jewish  supremacist, ethnic-cleansing, terrorist state of Israel, otherwise known as the Zionist entity, a key player in having orchestrated the 9-11 attacks.

Note how competely ridiculous it is for Bill Douglas to make the claim that Steve Alten, author of “The Shell Game” is “willing to put it all on the line to write a profound truth telling story.”  HOW ABSURD IS THAT?  After all, Zionist-approved Michael Moore (whose agent is Ari Emanuel, who is brother of arch Zionist congressman Rahm Emanuel, both of whom are Israeli-Americans and the sons of a Zionist terrorist—just google it for the research) made the Zionist-approved “Fahrenheit 9-11” and he suddenly became a millionaire!!!  “Putting it all on the line” MY FOOT!  >>>Read my article about this: Wendy Campbell vs. Michael Moore at http://www.marwenmedia.com/articles_images/campbellvsmoore.html

Steve Alten is following the footsteps of Zionist-approved Michael Moore in pointing the finger at the Zionist-approved “safe” targets such as Bush, Cheney and the “usual suspects” the Arab “terrorists” and “Al Qada” and “Big Oil” all the while overlooking the OBVIOUS HUMONGOUS role of Israel— its spies, its dual citizen Israeli-American perps such as Wolfowitz, Perle, Abrams, etc, (look at http://www.whodidit.org) and all the rest of the Zionist NeoCons including Netanyahu and his best buddy Silverstein, all the neocons, etc., the “dancing Israeli spies”, the neocon Isareli-firsters’ over-riding quest for a “free” pipeline from Iraq to Israel, and so on and on.  DON’T tell me you didn’t see the Fox News 4 part series on “Israeli Spying in the US” which was broadcast shortly after 9-11 but then spiked because of complaints from Abe Foxman of the ADL!  Don’t tell me you don’t know about the warnings Odigo received, etc.!  PLEASE! CATCH A CLUE!

Steve Alten and his ilk are NOT seeking the WHOLE TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH about 9-11!  They are actually seeking to SUPPRESS the WHOLE TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH about 9-11 if they OVERLOOK the MAJOR ROLE that Israel-firsters and Zionism played in orchestrating the 9-11 attacks, and people like Atlen and Moore seek to make lots of money by touting the Zionist point of view and averting the attention of the real Truth-seekers’ quest for ALL the TRUTH INCLUDING the Israeli connection to 911.

Here are just two excellent links for books from REAL 9-11 TRUTH seekers:




Please NOTE that the New York Times does NOT endorse these two books, which actually lends a great deal to their credibility right there.

The New York Times has always and continues to always suppress the Truth about 9-11 AND racist, apartheid Israel, aka, the Zionist entity, the main beneficiary of the 9-11 attacks. EVERYBODY  should know that by now, and we know it’s generally true for ALL of the US mainstream media.  Thank God for the internet!!!!  SPREAD THE WORD OF TRUTH.

Wendy Campbell

is there even any such thing as the whole truth?

Even if there is, you can't fight all battles on all fronts at once. You can't lose your readers.
Looks to me like Alten has made good choices in deploying his truth resources

I don't think anyone has to guess what your opinion is on this.

You mean the New York Times didn't investigate the single largest one day crime in U.S. history, even though much of it took place in its front yard?

I'm shocked!

(please look behind this curtain, just ignore THAT curtain, it's not important, TRUST ME)

Happy Truth Year!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

MP3 Audio Clip - Kyle Hence of 9/11 Press For Truth

Friday December 28, 2007
Kyle Hence, Maker of 9/11 Press For Truth, Discusses Steve Alten's 9/11 Novel The Shell Game With Kevin Barrett On GCN Radio

* source = http://www.gcnlive.com

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A fiction could help usto open upour citizen's eyes to see truth

Herblay FRANCE

bonsoir ,

In France having given away hundreds of American documentaries 911 DVDs to politicians, journalists , citizens , etc but I cannot say that the success is there. So for two years I have been investing time in my own 911 fiction story because I have become to believe that this could be an efficient way to get our citizens to start questionning the offical conspiracy version of the 911 attacks. I have been passing with success my copy of "THE DEVIL'S FOOTPRINT" written by Pen Peri. A very very interesting novel which brings out the dangers of the PNAC and many other links to the 911 attacks.

1) You need to activate javascript on your browser to read this page ...

with of "THE DEVIL'S FOOTPRINT" on google there is only one link which is the one above
2) http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.moz...

This novel is completely ignored by the mass media here in France despite the potiential interest by the public.
With the "Empreint du diable" Ben Peri on google gives about 173 links
4) http://www.monde-solidaire.org/spip/article.php3?id_article=769

by this book two friends have taken up 911 truth research.

I am hoping that the film "The Reflecting Pool" will also bring some more citizens to take up 911 truth research.
It is such a pity that we here in France can not get this film. Does anyone know where we can download it ?

For the moment I have put my own film "911: I did it for America" on stand by in hoping that "The Reflecting Pool" will do the job.

Yours John

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No planes + No peak oil =


No planes is absolutely unfounded, discredited disinformation, period.

Peak Oil, on the other hand, is an imminent reality supported by the following, in our face evidence:

1) The Iraq occupation and its vast reserves, now outsourced to Western oil companies (BP, Shell, etc.)

2) The Afghanistan occupation and its Caspian Sea pipeline

3) Rising cost of gasoline worldwide; supply is down, demand is up, price goes UP

4) No new infrastructure for petroleum processing having been built since the 1970s

5) Draconian police state preparations including detention centers in the US, PATRIOT ACTS I and II, Military Commissions Act - for when the oil crash is no longer mutable, September 11th is going to be a pleasant memory compared to what can and will most likely happen to the American economy and its consequences to a desperate, impoverished population.

Never seen you on here before. Liked it better that way.

Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence.

~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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SaiGirl makes no sense. She calls this issue of supporting a mainstream 9/11 truth fiction novel "Orwellian."

HELLLLOOOOOOO? Why do you and I know what "orwellian" means?


Yes, just like "The Shell Game" does.

Folks, I don't know why some "9/11 truth activist" hyperventilate anytime there is an opportunity to really break 9/11 truth and foment mass public skepticism into the MASS PUBLIC.

They are simply horribly misguided . . . or . . . I dont' want to go there.

Where I want to go, is to where we can get the average Joe sixpack action fiction reader to see quotes from David Ray Griffin, and Mike Ruppert's non-fiction 9/11 truth research.

NOW HOW COULD WE DO THAT? Oooohhh. Yeaahhh. We could get them to read, "THE SHELL GAME" because it is filled with REAL 9/11 FACTS FROM REAL 9/11 TRUTH RESEARCHERS.

Get a grip, folks. I know most of you see that "The Shell Game" is an incredible opportunity because it came from a New York Times best selling novelist WHO'S PUT HIS CAREER ON THE LINE . . .

But again, for those few BUT LOUD people who don't want anyone to get mass public attention to 911 truth . . . to you . . . I say "get a clue."

Exactly right

No one individual in this movement has all the answers.

Kyle Hence and 911 Press for Truth have done wonders for this movement, and it is certainly possible that this book could do much, much more to spread the gospel.

Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence.

~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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Sorry for the expression/cliche

But that's all of an apology you are going to get from me, as well as a response regarding this growing flame. The point is, the more the movement grows, the closer it will approach a universal truth - which does NOT include 'no planes' and the like.

Here's another expression:

"Don't feed the trolls."

Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence.

~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Who is SAIGIRL, and why would anyone take this bitter person ser

Who is SAIGIRL, and why would anyone take this bitter person seriously?

Kyle Hence stood toe to toe with the 9/11 Commission and demanded questions be answered.

Steven Jones sacrificed his career to do physics research that showed the official myth of the WTC collapses was false.

Lt. Colonel Robert Bowman stood up from the beginning and said the obvious, there was an Air Force stand down, and there needs to be an investigation.

Folks, does anyone smell sulphur when people like SaiGirl, who "purport" to be for 9/11 truth, use every once of their energy to try to tear apart, and tear down anyone who's actually fighting for 9/11 truth.

If anyone knew to the 9/11 truth movement is reading these posts, what you have to ask yourself is:



The answer to the 2nd question, is "SaiGirl"

The answer to the 1st question is everyone she spends all this time attacking.

I think you can figure out what's going on here.


Least that's what me sources say...;-)

You display your ignorance

You display your ignorance on "the gospel". This can best be translated as "the good news".

And truth is always good news.

Who is this theSaiGirl?

Everyone needs to see maybe the best video to come out on 9/11 truth so far; added to Google Sunday, Dec. 30th , 2007:

{Follow up to "Press For Truth}


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Art is POWERFUL !!

SaiGirl makes no sense. She calls this issue of supporting a mainstream 9/11 truth fiction novel "Orwellian."

HELLLLOOOOOOO? Why do you and I know what "orwellian" means?


Yes, just like "The Shell Game" does.

I come back from holiday to this bollox

No, that's not directed at you, Bill--I don't know you--it's directed at the right infestation what that's come here. Sorry mates--this looks like another manufactured "seagull" drama--and you, Bill, have been sucked into it.

As for the book, I've no opinion until I read the bugger. But really, saying anything like this publication is going to take 9/11 Truth to the next level sounds like over-optimistic bollox. There are no "magic bullets" in this movement, sorry to say.

I have to say, there are many heroes in the 9/11 truth movement.

Kevin Ryan, formerly a dept. manager at Underwriter Laboratories, read the UL report to NIST, and blew the whistle on the false hoods in that report. HE WAS FIRED. The man gave up his career for truth.

Steven Jones, Professor of Physics at Brigham Young University, relentlessy persued research on the WTC towers collapse. He found a smoking gun pointing to controlled demolition. His work awakened Richard Gage who then founded Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. JONES LOST HIS JOB FIGHTING FOR TRUTH.

Mike Ruppert's truth seeking career began along time ago, costing him his job as well as death threats when he was a whistle blowing LAPD detective.

The list of sacrifices by people hungering for 9/11 truth goes on and on.

Steve Alten, a New York Times Best Selling Author, is one of the latest TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THE LINE FOR 9/11 TRUTH. If you don't see what he's laid on the line with his career . . . why don't you go into your corporate job tomorrow, and stand up on a desk and start screaming at the top of your lungs, " 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!"

Do that, and see how that feels, and then you might have a taste of what the author of "The Shell Game" has felt, and is feeling.

Now the 9/11 truth seeker who REALLY want a mass demand for 9/11 truth WILL WELCOME STEVE ALTEN'S WORK INTO THE PUBLIC MIND. And would honor what he's done and is offering for truth.

John Leonard is a GREAT nonfiction publisher, but...

...once again he (like some others in the 9/11 truth movement) is showing an incomprehension of fiction/myth/storytelling -- a kind of hyper-literalism that insists that works of fiction tell exactly the story HE wants, with the right moral pinned on like a flashing neon tail on the PC donkey-drudgery. (John didn't like V for Vendetta because it plays with the Guy-Fawkes-as-anarchist myth AS WELL AS the Guy-Fawkes-as-patsy version. While I agree that the latter version is probably more correct historically, who cares? V for Vendetta would be a lousy film if some commissar of truth-movement political correctness had forced it into a narrowly literalist mold.)

Fiction is a medium for playing with ideas, not imposing prefabricated Right Ideas on the reader. The Shell Game plays with the current situation--the neocons are planning to nuke a US city to trigger their war on Iran. Its use of stock images and pulp-fiction cliches (including a few Islamophobic stereotypes) will, like it or not, be an asset rather than a liability in the larger battle to open up minds that have previously been closed. This book is aimed at the masses, remember! You can only go so far beyond your reader's worldview before you lose her. If The Shell Game were any MORE 9/11-truth-PC it would never find a mass audience. In fact, it's going to have a hard time as it is, because it's such a radically pro-9/11-truth novel.

Keep in mind as you read the book (or read pieces of it out of context) that The Shell Game, like most novels, is being told in the third person limited point of view. That means that almost every word is FILTERED THROUGH THE PERSPECTIVE OF ONE OF THE CHARACTERS. Some of the bad-guy characters think that 9/11 and 9/112B are and will be justifiable given the gravity of what is at stake; others, including some of the the "good guys" (and perhaps the author-puppetteer behind the scenes) offer worldviews that you may not entirely share. It's fine to argue against the various worldviews presented in the novel--that's the whole point of reading fiction! But to diss the novel itself, when it is putting 9/11 truth front and center, because you don't agree with some aspects of some of the worldviews presented in the novel, is profoundly misguided.

This is THE perfect novel for opening up a 9/11 truth conversation with millions of those who don't yet get it. If it were want John wants, it wouldn't sell, and there would be no such conversation.

Well said, thank you Kevin for some clarity of thought here.

As he usually does, Kevin Barrett sees with clarity. I can't add to his above analysis, but can only repeat THOSE who truly want a mass 9/11 truth movement will be enthusiastic about getting "The Shell Game" to #1 asap, so Steve Alten can get publicity to demand a new 9/11 investigation . . . which he will.

Hey Kevin

Excellent points well taken, tho I would certainly like to read the novel before I critique or celebrate its existence. The victories in this movement, both small and large, don't exactly happen all the time,and when they do, there is of course a huge MSM reaction to attempt to discredit our advances. There is no choice but to grow this movement 'by any means necessary' - for the advancement of civilization and for the sake of the ancestors of this war-shaken planet.

I'd also like to thank you for this term: 9/112B

Awesome! It is a credit to our movement that we've haven't seen the sequel to the horror show yet. Perhaps in Clinton2B's presidency - another threat that this movement MUST counter.


Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence.

~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Without giving too much away.

I have read "The Shell Game," and without giving too much away, because its a h*ll of a good read . . .

. . . is that it exposes that false flag terror is being used by govt. to FOOL Americans into illegal and immoral war on Iran.

This novel's success could help prevent an illegal false flag war on Iran.


As I and the growing 9/11 truth coalition have already encourage, everyone try to get everyone to get everyone to get "The Shell Game," a historic novel on the level of Orwell's "1984."

How can we possibly answer that question?


You have read the book, as you say. Most here have not, and have only what is on Mr. Altten's website. As I stated in another blog, what I see on the website bothers me. I will read the book, as will, I am sure, many who have raised questions. What more can you ask?

We're not the "mass public," a term you used which smacks of Edward Bernay and Walter Lippmann, whose ideas are behind so much of what is wrong with our manipulative and manipulated mass society. You're not asking us to read the book, you're asking us to promote it without readng it, and not to raise questions. That is manipulative.

if Alten has bought display space at large chain stores, sales should be good, and nothing we say here will have any affect on those sales. What you are asking is that people promote a book before reading ti for themselves, and then attacking their motives for raising questions based on what is available to them now.

I also don't see Alten as taking any particular career risks, and even if he is, so what? We have all sacrificed our time to pursue truth and justice as we see it. Alten stands to make money on this, including from me. That's fine - nothing wrong with that. But without knowing his financial position from past books, I won't assume he is taking any great financial risk.

In terms of preventing a false flag attack on Iran, based on what I have seen, the novel seems to argue for attacking Iran, based on discredited claims that they are a nuclear threat. You say that the novel argues the opposite, but how are you so sure the "mass public" will see that subtlety? Do any of Alten's characters argue for the UN Charter, and against crimes against peace? Any reference to the International Atomic Energy Agency, the Non-Profliferation treaty, the National Intelligence Estimate, the Non-Aligned Movement, mutually assured destruction? Any questioning of the propriety of dropping bombs on Iran?

I hope you are right about Shell Game. I look forward to reading it.

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Please notice that this YouTube seems to have been filmed and

put up by pro-Horowitz folk.

Any characters argue the gravity of repudiating the UN Charter?

Kevin Barret said:

"Some of the bad-guy characters think that 9/11 and 9/112B are and will be justifiable given the gravity of what is at stake; others, including some of the the "good guys" (and perhaps the author-puppetteer behind the scenes) offer worldviews that you may not entirely share."

Do any of the "good guy" characters argue that Iran as a sovereign nation has the right to pursue peaceful nuclear energy? Without getting into nuclear v. renewables, If "peak oil" is for real as Alten's characters argue, then isn't nuclear energy a reasonable response?

What is the "gravity" of this that won't be worsed by more intervention and war mongering? Your unstated premise here is disturbing to me, as it is the basis for so much violence and oppression.

Are there any "good guy" characters that raise the issues of international law I mention above?

Hmm, now, why do you remind me of someone I've met before?


You're amazing

How'd you know?

How'd I know "what"?


Apologized to Cindy Sheehan, yet?

I am asking, just to be fair--I've been on holiday so I might 'ave missed it.

You didn't think I forgot, did you, Kev?

No wiki?

Ah! There is apparently no Wikipedia page as yet for The Shell Game by Steve Alten. This is a good opportunity for the 911 truth community to come together. If the book is too obscure for a page then we can make it less obscure. If it is not notable enough then we can make it notable. If the novel is demonized by the mainstream press then that would be a tell because why demonize a work of fiction? Is Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell also demonized by the same press, and if so, why? The only reason why books of fiction are censored or burned is because they speak the truth; complete fantasy would be no threat to a propaganda machine but the truth would be.

National secrecy is a threat to human security.

Off topic but I saw this one too

Crazy story that gives much credence to our concerns - one part of the article says that these drones will be seeing more and more action for the next 25 YEARS. Um...ok? How long will these Peak Oil wars endure before this movement can shut them down?

Highly blog-worthy!

Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence.

~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Not sure what to make about this...

I was in my local Borders today and inquired about the book Shell Game (I plan on buying it at an even more local and very truth friendly independent bookstore, btw), I was told that the book was originally due to ship well before Christmas and to have been available for the Christmas rush, but was delayed until late January by the publisher for some "unknown" reason. Anyone know why?

As a general rule I don't think mixing fact with fiction is good when trying to convince people of fact, but I will hold off my final opinion until I read the entire book and get feedback from others who have also read it.

Don't mind SaiGirl, her New Year's resolution was to spend more time at 911Blogger, but she will get tired of ranting in the cold rain and give up soon enough. I do have to agree that it is a bit unsettling to see truth and fiction paired so casually, though.

As an artist myself, I'm well aware of the uses of art (fiction) to illuminate truth, I'm just not sure of this particular application yet.

We have truth and the laws of physics on our side, brothers and sisters, let's make 2008 the Year of Truth!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

nice reflections, LeftWright

i look forward to hearing more opinion on this book after I and other people have read. i am not looking forward to reading
"evil muslim myth" stuff...but taken in the right context of it being the mantra of the psychopathological lier neocons who are the probable perpetrators...
will use a peel-away-the-onion-skin approach..or "trim the artichoke and get to the heart"...

Hey, whatever it takes

Hey, whatever it takes (that's legal, non-violent and truthful) . . . I pre-ordered 10 copies last week on Amazon (1/22/08 release date), and if it's the page-turner it's claimed to be, I'll buy more to give to friends and family and strangers who "can't go there" . . .

Here's an analogy that just came to mind: The builder who built my house 8 years ago was a naturalist (not a naked "naturist") . . . He wanted all "pure" materials in his houses. His good intentions have forced us to replace ALL the leaking wood (3rd generation, no doubt) windows in our house this year with vinyl clad/wood windows which look great and will get the job done . . .

This book appears so far to be credible with many of the prominent and respected members of the 9/11 Truth Movement as signatories . . .

Give truth a chance, even in fictionalized form . . . let's not cut off our nose to spite our face . . . : )


"I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket."
-- Major General Smedley Darling Butler, USMC, 1881-1940

Some approaches are sounder than others, I urge caution here

Let's not put on lipstick and rouge to get a few more cheap dates when what we want is a long-term relationship.

Your analogy might actually be best viewed in an odd reverse fashion, imagine removing good windows (known facts) and replacing them with those which will eventually be found to be faulty (mixing facts with fiction). Doesn't sound too wise, does it?

Once again I reserve the right to become an unabashed promoter of the book after I have read it (we are skeptics, first and foremost, after all).

Hal Sisson's book, Modus Operandi 9/11 had a similar intention, but its style didn't agree with me and I don't think it sales have led to a significant number of new members in the movement.

Would a lawyer introduce fiction in court to persuade a jury? The opposing attorney would have a field day with that. We are dealing with the court of public opinion here, after all.

Have you tried PFT with your friends who "can't go there" , or given them The New Pearl Harbor by David Ray Griffin (my favorite short primer)?

Good to have you with us, Betsy, keep up the great work and let us know how the screenings are going. I'm thinking of doing a similar thing out here in NorCA.

Happy New Year!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Straight from the horse's mouth

A splash of cold water ...

Alten: I contacted the Navy public affairs office and sent them a copy of Goliath. They read the book and liked it and said, “Well, we’ll see what we can do.”
McDonald: Goliath at several different points, alludes to the terrorist attacks of September 11, and incorporates some quotes from President George W. Bush’s now famous speech to both houses a few days after 9-11 regarding the War on Terror. How much of the book was plotted or written prior to 9-11?
Alten: Almost nothing. The 9-11 references — and they’re just, as you mentioned, small references, I put in on a last walk-through on the edit. I had thoughts about taking it even further, but I decided it would be too major of an edit to do that and I was doing it solely to incorporate Osama bin Laden into it. So I decided not to do it. But you have to make reference to it, because the book takes place in the near future.
McDonald: Without giving away any major plot points, Osama bin Laden, his whereabouts in the book, in the year 2008, are left vague. Saddam Hussein — there is a plot-point calling for his demise. When did you incorporate that into the novel? Events of the past week — as the President has signed an order essentially setting the stage for Saddam’s assisted demise — is incredibly timely.
Alten: When I sat down and was developing the Simon Covah character, who is not really a villain but more of a victim who crosses the line of what a victim does and a villain does, I kind of put myself in his position. If you were king of the world, what would you want?
Alten: Yeah, at one point, right after 9-11, I put in a demand that Osama bin Laden be killed and that Covah knew where he was hiding. But, I realized after I wrote it, that it was not very realistic and that I needed to take it out.
Alten: Prior to the book deal, I knew that we had the unofficial workings of a movie deal. The movie rights for Meg had been sold, in principle, to Hollywood Pictures. So I knew, eventually, I would have that.
McDonald: You have cited Ian Fleming and Anne Rice as two writers whom you admire. Do you see anything of their works reflected in your own, or anything you took from them?
Alten: I suppose there is some horror element in my writing, from Anne Rice. I also like (Tom) Clancy and Michael Crichton. I like the fact that Crichton is not pigeon-holed into one particular subject and I don’t want to be either. I’ve had my first two publishers try to do that with me. They just wanted underwater books. I don’t want to be the next Peter Benchley, though I admire his success. There are other subjects I want to write about. As long as I can tell the story in a way that keeps you turning the pages I don’t think there is a problem with that. My readers haven’t had a problem with that.

(Read the entire interview and check out the pictures at the WEB site. It'll really open your eyes.)

Here is Alten's "official site":

Worth repeating:
"Would a lawyer introduce fiction in court to persuade a jury? The opposing attorney would have a field day with that. We are dealing with the court of public opinion here, after all." - LeftWright

'nuff said. Common sense speaks for itself.

This "fiction" gambit is a loser.
Guaranteed to do more damage to the evidence than the overblown "Loose Change" ever did.

(Of course there are probably a lot of posters here who are credulous enough to think that "Loose Change" (umpteenth edition) was such a great success for "the movement".)

Was that a plural horse's mouth, or singular?

I'm not exactly sure how to take your "endorsement".

(Is that fishing line I see?)

***big smile***

Happy Truth Year!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.