New "Debunking" Site: AE911TRUTH.INFO

Well, folks, in addition to being targeted by the Simon Wiesenthal Center, Ae911truth.org now has inspired the "debunker" side to do an evil twin: ae911truth.info, apparently run by a guy named Joseph Nobles. It is under construction but the core of the site consists of attempted rebuttals to Richard Gage's powerpoint presentation.

Just the first page of this is pretty infuriating to read:

"This is the home page of AE911Truth.info, a site dedicated to exposing the lies and mistakes of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. AE911Truth claims to be an advocacy group for engineers and architects who question what they call the "official story" of the 9/11 attacks, but it's really just a front organization that's being used for PR purposes. They pretend to be spreading real and valuable information. Actually their website and presentations are filled with misinformation and lies.

Somebody should stop them, and I take great pleasure in being able to do my part in stopping them. The events of 9/11 are too important to be lied about, and AE911Truth do this again and again.

My name is Joseph Nobles, by the way. I'm a live voice writer and actor, and my interest in the 9/11 Truth Movement comes from my political interests. Many members of the Truth Movement come from the left side of the political spectrum. After all, the main appeal in these conspiracy theories is for people who are already disenchanted with George Bush. And that would be me. I'm more than willing to believe the worst of President Bush and his crooked administration. Indeed, I am the target audience for the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Having said that, I won't make any more political statements on this website (besides a possible paper on the Iraq war as motivation for this organization). There is nothing political about how a building falls down, and this is the main contribution of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. I don't have to go into politics to explain how and why those buildings fell. And so I won't be."
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Now comes the real grab for the puke-bag:

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Gage's Personal and Professional Reputation

Richard Gage is a mild-mannered, likable person. He generates a great deal of sympathy as a speaker because of this. He seems genuine to me in his desire to see justice done for the 9/11 attacks.

Therefore, the best I can say for him is that he is terribly misguided. His presentation is a mixture of mistakes and outright deceptions on his part. Each will be demonstrated in the course of this critique.

It is a terrible thing to watch a true believer lie for his righteous cause. Such is the spectacle you are about to witness.

The AIA Logo

You will see the logo of the American Institute of Architects all throughout this presentation. The AIA does not endorse this presentation by any stretch of the imagination. Anyone who is a licensed and degreed architect may join this trade association:

"As AIA members, over 80,000 licensed architects, emerging professionals, and allied partners express their commitment to excellence in design and livability in our nation's buildings and communities. Members adhere to a code of ethics and professional conduct that assures the client, the public, and colleagues of an AIA-member architect's dedication to the highest standards in professional practice."

Richard Gage is not engaging in his professional practice here. He is not dealing with the design or the livability of the World Trade Center complex. He is a part of a team that designs and builds buildings, and not part of a team that tears them down.

Therefore, whenever you see the AIA logo, remember that this is an attempt by Gage to enhance his authority to speak about something he has no expertise in. He is propping himself up with this trade association. Don't be fooled.
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I wonder who this Joseph Nobles is. This is classic "debunker" modus operandi.

Everything about JN smells, he's probably with the Flordia gang

He is definately cointelpro, just the switch and bait title of his site says it all. They are really coming after you Richard, your work must really be scaring them to be this obvious, keep up the good work my friend.

That smear guy

boloboffin is the longtime Internet identity for Joseph Nobles, an actor who currently lives in Dallas, TX. He also is a live voice writer in training for the National Captioning Institute.

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can be visited on the democraticunderground.com 911 subforum, called the dungeon. Please, do not read that stuff, it's a waste of time, as mentioned, the same old technics as always.

BTW: Time for the rules of disinfo

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556

One of my Cincy911truth

One of my Cincy911truth friends informed me of this new site over the phone. I figured it would be prominently displayed at JREF, so this morning I browsed the forum... and what do I know, boloboffin is Joseph Nobles.

WARNING: SARCASM AHEAD

When it comes to analyzing how buildings are constructed I think that live voice writers and actors are far more credible than licensed architects and engineers.

Can I please stop laughing now? (my sides really hurt).

This, brothers and sisters, is the most obvious gauge (pun intended) of their level of desperation. Just how lame can they get?

Let's hope they have an open forum on the site. I can't wait to see what my favorite Colonel does with this.

***huge grin***

I love you all very much.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

To be fair...

I don't hold the fact that he is a layman against him. One of the weapons in the arsenal of debunkers is to state that DRG, a theology professor, is not qualified to discuss how buildings collapse. However, Griffin's work draws from others who do have expertise.

Similarly, this Nobles guy relies primarily on Ryan Mackey's answer to Griffin's NIST chapter. Unfortunately, an analysis of Mackey's paper reveals it to be full of omissions, distortions, and lies.

Just reading Nobles' "rebuttals" to Gage's first three slides was enough to realize the site is crap and that the debunkers have no legs to stand on.

How odd that Joseph Nobles' name is so eerily similar to history's most infamous propagandist... :D

I noted the Goebbels "connection" too

Both actors, as well.

This site is perfect for lampooning.

Happy Truth Year!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Ad hominem

And nothing more.

He doesn't like the message, so he goes after the person.

Perfect definition of "ad hominem."

What a waste of time propping up the OCT.

Indeed.