InfraGard - Shoot to kill in the event of Martial Law?

"...they said when—not if—martial law is declared, it was our responsibility to protect our portion of the infrastructure, and if we had to use deadly force to protect it, we couldn’t be prosecuted."

Exclusive! The FBI Deputizes Business

by Matthew Rothschild - February 7, 2008

Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does—and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to “shoot to kill” in the event of martial law.

InfraGard is “a child of the FBI,” says Michael Hershman, the chairman of the advisory board of the InfraGard National Members Alliance and CEO of the Fairfax Group, an international consulting firm.

InfraGard started in Cleveland back in 1996, when the private sector there cooperated with the FBI to investigate cyber threats.

“Then the FBI cloned it,” says Phyllis Schneck, chairman of the board of directors of the InfraGard National Members Alliance, and the prime mover behind the growth of InfraGard over the last several years.

InfraGard itself is still an FBI operation, with FBI agents in each state overseeing the local InfraGard chapters. (There are now eighty-six of them.) The alliance is a nonprofit organization of private sector InfraGard members.

“We are the owners, operators, and experts of our critical infrastructure, from the CEO of a large company in agriculture or high finance to the guy who turns the valve at the water utility,” says Schneck, who by day is the vice president of research integration at Secure Computing.

“At its most basic level, InfraGard is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the private sector,” the InfraGard website states. “InfraGard chapters are geographically linked with FBI Field Office territories.”

In November 2001, InfraGard had around 1,700 members. As of late January, InfraGard had 23,682 members, according to its website,, which adds that “350 of our nation’s Fortune 500 have a representative in InfraGard.”

To join, each person must be sponsored by “an existing InfraGard member, chapter, or partner organization.” The FBI then vets the applicant. On the application form, prospective members are asked which aspect of the critical infrastructure their organization deals with. These include: agriculture, banking and finance, the chemical industry, defense, energy, food, information and telecommunications, law enforcement, public health, and transportation.

FBI Director Robert Mueller addressed an InfraGard convention on August 9, 2005. At that time, the group had less than half as many members as it does today. “To date, there are more than 11,000 members of InfraGard,” he said. “From our perspective that amounts to 11,000 contacts . . . and 11,000 partners in our mission to protect America.” He added a little later, “Those of you in the private sector are the first line of defense.”

He urged InfraGard members to contact the FBI if they “note suspicious activity or an unusual event.” And he said they could sic the FBI on “disgruntled employees who will use knowledge gained on the job against their employers.”

In an interview with InfraGard after the conference, which is featured prominently on the InfraGard members’ website, Mueller says: “It’s a great program.”

The ACLU is not so sanguine.

“There is evidence that InfraGard may be closer to a corporate TIPS program, turning private-sector corporations—some of which may be in a position to observe the activities of millions of individual customers—into surrogate eyes and ears for the FBI,” the ACLU warned in its August 2004 report The Surveillance-Industrial Complex: How the American Government Is Conscripting Businesses and Individuals in the Construction of a Surveillance Society.

InfraGard is not readily accessible to the general public. Its communications with the FBI and Homeland Security are beyond the reach of the Freedom of Information Act under the “trade secrets” exemption, its website says. And any conversation with the public or the media is supposed to be carefully rehearsed.

“The interests of InfraGard must be protected whenever presented to non-InfraGard members,” the website states. “During interviews with members of the press, controlling the image of InfraGard being presented can be difficult. Proper preparation for the interview will minimize the risk of embarrassment. . . . The InfraGard leadership and the local FBI representative should review the submitted questions, agree on the predilection of the answers, and identify the appropriate interviewee. . . . Tailor answers to the expected audience. . . . Questions concerning sensitive information should be avoided.”

One of the advantages of InfraGard, according to its leading members, is that the FBI gives them a heads-up on a secure portal about any threatening information related to infrastructure disruption or terrorism.

The InfraGard website advertises this. In its list of benefits of joining InfraGard, it states: “Gain access to an FBI secure communication network complete with VPN encrypted website, webmail, listservs, message boards, and much more.”

InfraGard members receive “almost daily updates” on threats “emanating from both domestic sources and overseas,” Hershman says.

“We get very easy access to secure information that only goes to InfraGard members,” Schneck says. “People are happy to be in the know.”

On November 1, 2001, the FBI had information about a potential threat to the bridges of California. The alert went out to the InfraGard membership. Enron was notified, and so, too, was Barry Davis, who worked for Morgan Stanley. He notified his brother Gray, the governor of California.

“He said his brother talked to him before the FBI,” recalls Steve Maviglio, who was Davis’s press secretary at the time. “And the governor got a lot of grief for releasing the information. In his defense, he said, ‘I was on the phone with my brother, who is an investment banker. And if he knows, why shouldn’t the public know?’ ”

Maviglio still sounds perturbed about this: “You’d think an elected official would be the first to know, not the last.”

In return for being in the know, InfraGard members cooperate with the FBI and Homeland Security. “InfraGard members have contributed to about 100 FBI cases,” Schneck says. “What InfraGard brings you is reach into the regional and local communities. We are a 22,000-member vetted body of subject-matter experts that reaches across seventeen matrixes. All the different stovepipes can connect with InfraGard.”

Schneck is proud of the relationships the InfraGard Members Alliance has built with the FBI. “If you had to call 1-800-FBI, you probably wouldn’t bother,” she says. “But if you knew Joe from a local meeting you had with him over a donut, you might call them. Either to give or to get. We want everyone to have a little black book.”

This black book may come in handy in times of an emergency. “On the back of each membership card,” Schneck says, “we have all the numbers you’d need: for Homeland Security, for the FBI, for the cyber center. And by calling up as an InfraGard member, you will be listened to.” She also says that members would have an easier time obtaining a “special telecommunications card that will enable your call to go through when others will not.”

This special status concerns the ACLU.

“The FBI should not be creating a privileged class of Americans who get special treatment,” says Jay Stanley, public education director of the ACLU’s technology and liberty program. “There’s no ‘business class’ in law enforcement. If there’s information the FBI can share with 22,000 corporate bigwigs, why don’t they just share it with the public? That’s who their real ‘special relationship’ is supposed to be with. Secrecy is not a party favor to be given out to friends. . . . This bears a disturbing resemblance to the FBI’s handing out ‘goodies’ to corporations in return for folding them into its domestic surveillance machinery.”

When the government raises its alert levels, InfraGard is in the loop. For instance, in a press release on February 7, 2003, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Attorney General announced that the national alert level was being raised from yellow to orange. They then listed “additional steps” that agencies were taking to “increase their protective measures.” One of those steps was to “provide alert information to InfraGard program.”

“They’re very much looped into our readiness capability,” says Amy Kudwa, spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security. “We provide speakers, as well as do joint presentations [with the FBI]. We also train alongside them, and they have participated in readiness exercises.”

On May 9, 2007, George Bush issued National Security Presidential Directive 51 entitled “National Continuity Policy.” In it, he instructed the Secretary of Homeland Security to coordinate with “private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to provide for the delivery of essential services during an emergency.”

Asked if the InfraGard National Members Alliance was involved with these plans, Schneck said it was “not directly participating at this point.” Hershman, chairman of the group’s advisory board, however, said that it was.

InfraGard members, sometimes hundreds at a time, have been used in “national emergency preparation drills,” Schneck acknowledges.

“In case something happens, everybody is ready,” says Norm Arendt, the head of the Madison, Wisconsin, chapter of InfraGard, and the safety director for the consulting firm Short Elliott Hendrickson, Inc. “There’s been lots of discussions about what happens under an emergency.”

One business owner in the United States tells me that InfraGard members are being advised on how to prepare for a martial law situation—and what their role might be. He showed me his InfraGard card, with his name and e-mail address on the front, along with the InfraGard logo and its slogan, “Partnership for Protection.” On the back of the card were the emergency numbers that Schneck mentioned.

This business owner says he attended a small InfraGard meeting where agents of the FBI and Homeland Security discussed in astonishing detail what InfraGard members may be called upon to do.

“The meeting started off innocuously enough, with the speakers talking about corporate espionage,” he says. “From there, it just progressed. All of a sudden we were knee deep in what was expected of us when martial law is declared. We were expected to share all our resources, but in return we’d be given specific benefits.” These included, he says, the ability to travel in restricted areas and to get people out.

But that’s not all.

“Then they said when—not if—martial law is declared, it was our responsibility to protect our portion of the infrastructure, and if we had to use deadly force to protect it, we couldn’t be prosecuted,” he says.

I was able to confirm that the meeting took place where he said it had, and that the FBI and Homeland Security did make presentations there. One InfraGard member who attended that meeting denies that the subject of lethal force came up. But the whistleblower is 100 percent certain of it. “I have nothing to gain by telling you this, and everything to lose,” he adds. “I’m so nervous about this, and I’m not someone who gets nervous.”

Though Schneck says that FBI and Homeland Security agents do make presentations to InfraGard, she denies that InfraGard members would have any civil patrol or law enforcement functions. “I have never heard of InfraGard members being told to use lethal force anywhere,” Schneck says.

The FBI adamantly denies it, also. “That’s ridiculous,” says Catherine Milhoan, an FBI spokesperson. “If you want to quote a businessperson saying that, knock yourself out. If that’s what you want to print, fine.”

But one other InfraGard member corroborated the whistleblower’s account, and another would not deny it.

Christine Moerke is a business continuity consultant for Alliant Energy in Madison, Wisconsin. She says she’s an InfraGard member, and she confirms that she has attended InfraGard meetings that went into the details about what kind of civil patrol function—including engaging in lethal force—that InfraGard members may be called upon to perform.

“There have been discussions like that, that I’ve heard of and participated in,” she says.

Curt Haugen is CEO of S’Curo Group, a company that does “strategic planning, business continuity planning and disaster recovery, physical and IT security, policy development, internal control, personnel selection, and travel safety,” according to its website. Haugen tells me he is a former FBI agent and that he has been an InfraGard member for many years. He is a huge booster. “It’s the only true organization where there is the public-private partnership,” he says. “It’s all who knows who. You know a face, you trust a face. That’s what makes it work.”

He says InfraGard “absolutely” does emergency preparedness exercises. When I ask about discussions the FBI and Homeland Security have had with InfraGard members about their use of lethal force, he says: “That much I cannot comment on. But as a private citizen, you have the right to use force if you feel threatened.”

“We were assured that if we were forced to kill someone to protect our infrastructure, there would be no repercussions,” the whistleblower says. “It gave me goose bumps. It chilled me to the bone.”

Very scary stuff! Looks like they are closer to implementing

the police state than I had feared!

Since this (and much worse) happened in Nazi Germany 65 years ago, it could easily happen here as well.

Consider mass emailing truth messages. More info here:

If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention

Welcome to Chicago InfraGard Chapter
What is InfraGard?
Collaboration for National Infrastructure Protection

From drinking water supplies to communications systems, chemical production processes to agricultural resources, Americans depend on a select group of critical infrastructures to sustain our way of life. Any attempts to harm or destroy these resources would directly impact the security of the United States and its citizens.

Most of these systems and services are owned and operated by private industry. Therefore, the protection of our nation’s infrastructure cannot be accomplished by the federal government alone. It requires coordinated action from numerous stakeholders – including government, the private sector, law enforcement and concerned citizens.

InfraGard is the critical link that forms a tightly-knit working relationship across all levels. Each InfraGard chapter is geographically linked with an FBI Field Office, providing all stakeholders immediate access to experts from law enforcement, industry, academic institutions and other federal, state and local government agencies. By utilizing the talents and expertise of the InfraGard network, information is shared to mitigate threats to our nation’s critical infrastructures and key resources.

Collaboration and communication are the keys to protection. Providing timely and accurate information to those responsible for safeguarding our critical infrastructures, even at a local level, is paramount in the fight to protect the United States and its resources.

Second that....

"....If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention"

It's an important article. It should raise the immediacy of our concerns!

What you must avoid reading into it that it's purely defensive. It's probably no more so than the new missile defense we're setting up in Poland!

Something's coming....five cut cables in the Mediterranean that severely cut Iran's internet access! Israel encouraging its citizens to create safe rooms equipped with air and ventilation in the event of missile attacks!

I truly doubt we get through 2k8 without a huge event!

Everyone should be concerned!

...don't believe them!

Govt. Clearly Setting The Table For Domestic Crackdown

The evidence is everywhere.

We are the target.

The question is why.

I suspect it is happening in order to manage the fallout of an economic meltdown that is being manufactured to create demand destruction of energy resources.

Crash the economy and demand is destroyed.

Man made climate change and solutions to it are a 'front' to conceal what I think is a real issue and that is vanishing energy reserves.

Mexican Oil Production Dropping Fast

This info should be at the top of the 6 oclock news and on the front page of every newspaper.

Instead, its only found in oil industry and investment publications.

The powers that be don't want too many within the public at large to know about Peak Energy because it will cause too many to withdraw too suddenly from our debt based economy that leaves us all perpetually subject to the bankers who run it.

They want us to believe in what seem to be manufactured hoaxes like immenent and catostrphic man made climate change and the solutions to cope with it (not coincidentally, reduced use of hydrocarbon energy sources, the only option in a Peak Energy world.)

The elites ramble on endlessly about so called 'man made climate change' and yet never touch 'Peak Energy'. 'Man-made climate change' creates the illusion that everything will still be OK as long as we do what our glorious leaders tell us to do.


Mexico oil production decline to increase in 2010

Eric Watkins

Senior Correspondent

LOS ANGELES, Feb. 7 -- Mexico will face difficulties in producing crude oil over the coming 2 years, according to a media report, which claims that Cantarell and Ku-Maloob-Zaap (KMZ) fields will decline simultaneously in 2010.


According to Sener, the 2007-16 Crude Oil Market Outlook prepared by the Energy Information System of the Energy Secretariat, in any scenario—high or low—Cantarell's production will average 917,000-921,000 b/d during 2006-16, with an average annual decline of 14.1%.


Folks, we are on the Way into a Dictatorship. That is not a Joke!
We have to take Action!

There will be another event. Listen carefully to our "Leaders".
They are always talkin about a nuclear Attack in the USA.
And what do you think what happens then...

Presidential Directives NSPD 51:
When the president determines a national emergency has occurred, the president can declare to the office of the presidency powers usually assumed by dictators to direct any and all government and business activities until the emergency is declared over.

Watch some Videos from her:

Read about the Presidential Directives NSPD 51.

Search for the FEMA Camps and the Blackwater Deals.

It's realy scary. If we don't take action now and restore our rights, it could be over! REALLY!

The Ron Paul Revolution is my Hope at this moment. I think he knows about the ongoing stuff.
He once said there are 25.000 People who have plans to establish a World Governement (


Cheney's April Interview, "detonation of a nuclear weapon...."

From Bob Shieffer interview in April on FACE THE NATION:

'' And the stakes of terrorist threats that the United States faces today have only increased since then (9/11), Cheney said, calling fear of the detonation of a nuclear weapon inside an American city "a very real threat.... It's something that we have to worry about and defeat every single day. ''

I just wanted to remind everyone that no less than Cheney made the above statement! It's Cheney, a definite candidate for MIHOP, who made this declaration.

"There will be another event. Listen carefully to our "Leaders".
They are always talkin about a nuclear Attack in the USA.
And what do you think what happens then..."

....what happens then? less Blue State?...Marshall Law?....attack on Iran?....Syria?

.....well, I wouldn't want to be in Portland with two sets of major military drills: Noble Resolve in Aug and Topoff 4 and Vigilant Shield in Octorber, last year. One drill was close to the time of the B-52 missing nuke incident! They cleared nine square blocks of downtown Portland, OR! It's a pretty big area to do some misdeed?

Oregon Truth Alliance hightlights their fears by posting a great article by Michael Salla:

Missing Nuke..Simulated Terrorist Attack?

It's important to remain alert to references to Iranian-backed terrorism in the USA!

It should only raise a red flag!

Dick Cheney #1 on the list of those you....
...can't believe!

Their membership application leaves the impression that

they are a quasi-governmental fraternal organization, not unlike the Nazi Party.

Critical infrastructure

U. S. Constitution
Your state constitution
Public defenders
U. S. Constitution
Your state constitution
State and federal public records disclosure laws
Electronic Freedom Foundation
Sierra Club
9/11 Blogger

I have to say, after the crap Rothschild published about 9/11, he's not the most credible source. This is creepy, but it's more subtle than "shoot to kill," which may be a straw man the FBI knocked down. And it's hard to argue that power plants, computer networks, and water supplies don't need protection, though of course after 9/11 we have nowway of knowing where the risk comes from. Wherever it comes from, Amory Lovins had a better solution, I think - decentralization for resilience.

Interesting how the code of ethics says don't use information gained for competitive advantage at the expense of other members. What about using it for competitive advantage at the expense of non-members?

Also strange is the statement "interests of Infragard" in the policies and procedures for talking to non-Infragard members. I could see a policy of making sure that sensitive information

I thought this was supposed to be in the public interest.


More Hyper-Paranoia and (Self-) Fear Mongering

What did you expect them to say? "Be as gentle as you can with people and try to not shoot anyone, and especially don't shoot to kill"?

That's not realistic. Plus it's a training exercise put on by gung ho idiot law enforcement types, or, as my brother likes to refer to them, "law enforcement dildoes". (and that description is entirely adequate for most of them, including those who I know and are "friends" and acquaintances — it takes a certain "type" to go into that field, and if you aren't when you join, you quickly become that way... or you quit)

This is just more of the same old same old crap that has been going on since the beginning of time. I can see where it would be a little shocking to those who are naive and/or have no idea what law enforcement people are like, and the way things work (have always worked), but it's definitely nothing new. As with all the rest.

As I've mentioned before, I've been following and reading about and studying the "New World Order Movement" for well over thirty years (and the history of it that goes WAY back farther than that), and they say the same stuff today that they said back then — on both sides.

So pardon me if I get a laugh out of people freaking out about it now, like it's some new terrible thing, or I don't know what. Perhaps you should have been paying more attention all along, or learning something about our recent and not-so-recent history.

The person who sees absolutes and exhibits certitude, where a thoughtful person sees nuanced shades of meaning
and exhibits open-minded objectivity, should be questioned as to agenda and state of mind.


Blackwater Lite.

"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Dir. Bldg. & Fire Research Lab. (NIST)
"We are [still] unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse." (NIST)