Rep. Dana Rohrabacher links WTC 1993 bombing to OKC bombing and 9/11 in 15th anniversary speech - February 26, 2008

On February 26, 2008, Congressional Representative Dana Rohrabacher of California made some very interesting observations on the House floor; *

"In my tenure as a senior member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, both as chairman and ranking member of an investigative subcommittee, I have witnessed firsthand behavior by the Bush administration which I find deeply troubling.

The disdain and uncooperative nature that this administration has shown toward Congress, including Republican Members, is so egregious that I can no longer assume that it is simply bureaucratic incompetence or isolated mistakes. Rather, I have come to the sad conclusion that this administration has intentionally obstructed Congress' rightful and constitutional duties.

Tonight I will discuss some serious examples of this administration's contemptuous disregard for the authority delegated to Congress by the Constitution. This bad attitude has consistently manifested itself in a sophomoric resentment toward Congress' constitutional role as an equal branch of government. The result has been an executive branch too insecure to let Congress do its job, an executive branch that sees Congress, even when Republicans held the majority, as a rival and a spoiler, rather than as elected representatives of the American people playing a rightful role in establishing policy for our great country.

Unfortunately, when the President of the United States rejects the legitimacy of congressional prerogatives, there are serious consequences. Tonight, I will provide examples of how this administration for the past 7 years has undercut congressional investigators, has lied to Members of Congress, and has forged ahead with secret deals in spite of efforts and pleas by Congress to be informed, if not involved.

In the last Congress, I was chairman of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. In that capacity, I learned that in the time immediately leading up to the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, convicted Oklahoma City bomber and murderer Terry Nichols had been in Cebu City in the Philippines. His stay in Cebu City coincided with another visitor to that city, al Qaeda's terrorist leader Ramsey Yousef. Interestingly, both Nichols and Yousef used similar bombs and methods just 2 years apart to blow up two American targets. Yousef was the mastermind of the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993. Nichols was a coconspirator in the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building in 1995.

By the way, I would like to acknowledge that today happens to be the 15-year anniversary of that first devastating attack on the World Trade Center.

These individuals, one American and one Arab, were responsible for planning two of the most lethal terrorist attacks on our countrymen in our history. We are to believe that by coincidence they ended up in an off-the-beaten-track city in the Southern Philippines? One doesn't have to be a conspiracy nut to understand that this coincidence is certainly worth looking into.

I started an official congressional investigation sanctioned by Henry Hyde, then the chairman of the International Relations Committee, to see whether Terry Nichols or his accomplice, Timothy McVeigh, had foreign help in their murderous terrorist bombing of the Alfred Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.

In light of the fact that Terry Nichols and Ramsey Yousef were both in Cebu City at the same time prior to hauntingly similar terrorist attacks, it was no stretch for a congressional investigative committee to be looking into this matter. However, the Bush administration felt quite differently. To those I had to deal with, it was "case closed, don't bother us.'' They had looked into the matter, and Congress should simply and blindly accept their conclusion that there was no Nichols-Yousef connection. "Don't bother us.'' This was at times bureaucratic laziness, and at other times it was clearly based on a disdain for congressional investigations and authority.

During my investigation, I secured Ramsey Yousef's cell phone records. The records were part of the phone calls that he made when he was in that New York City area in the months just prior to the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993.

The phone records show that Ramsey Yousef made at least two phone calls to a row house in Queens, New York.

That row house was occupied by the cousin of Terry Nichols' Filipina wife. Let me repeat that. The terrorist bomber of the first World Trade Center attack, the nephew of al Qaeda 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, made phone calls to the same row house that was occupied by Terry Nichols' cousins-in-law just 2 months before he exploded the bomb in the garage of the World Trade Center 15 years ago. Another coincidence?"

That is an interesting connection isn't it? The first instinctual reaction is to regard this as an attempt to reify the menace of Muslim terrorists. However, if this is the case, then why would the "War on Terror" administration not want to exploit this connection for maximum benefit? Why didn't the Clinton administration pursue the connection?

The Ramzi Yousef/Terri Nichols connection is not the only one Rohrabacher makes regarding WTC 93 and OKC;

"...I gave this information to the Department of Justice and since that time have repeatedly sought their help in investigating this matter. Time after time, my requests have gone unanswered or have just been flatly denied.

I also asked the Department of Justice on numerous occasions to help me investigate the name Samir Khahil. This name is on a list of unindicted co-conspirators of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, again in connection with Ramsey Yousef.

It also is the name, by the way, of an Iraqi man in Oklahoma City who at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing employed an Arab immigrant who fits the description originally made by numerous witnesses as to John Doe II.

This Oklahoma-based Iraqi lied, meaning the John Doe II look-alike, lied to the investigators about his whereabouts at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing, yet there was little if any follow-up on this John Doe II look-alike. In fact, the FBI simply declared that John Doe II never existed. The existence of John Doe II, let it be remembered, was based on a sketch and sketches derived from witnesses on the scene of the Oklahoma City bombing and the truck rental company in which that bomb was placed on a truck from that truck rental company. Those witnesses described a man who, as I say, looked very much like Samir Khahil's employee.

Now, I have repeatedly asked the Department of Justice to tell me if the Samir Khahil on the unindicted coconspirators list of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing is the same Samir Khahil who employed a man originally identified as John Doe II, the bomber, the number two bomber in the Oklahoma City bombing. The Justice Department's answer: "It would be too burdensome to find out if it was the same man.''

Further, we asked help in finding the Arab immigrant who looked like John Doe II and the man who was employed by Samir Khahil. We traced him to Boston, but we have had no support or cooperation in finding this very possible terrorist, or at least terrorist suspect. He may well have been working at Boston's Logan Airport on 9/11/01, the day that a plane took off from that airport and was hijacked and crashed into the World Trade Center. Another weird coincidence to the Oklahoma City bombing. Another coincidence, yes.

You don't have to be a conspiracy nut to believe that these things should be investigated. Instead, there has been no follow-through, no interest. The case is closed, forget it, both in terms of Samir Khahil and his Iraqi employer and employee; and both of these people, of course, reside in the United States right now.

That is just a small taste of the deplorable lack of cooperation for a legitimate congressional investigation. And it was no fluke. I didn't just happen to snag some uncooperative Federal employee. No, this is the level of non-cooperation Congress has learned to expect from this administration.

Yes, Departments and agencies do have limited resources, and I understand that. I used to work in the executive branch. So, yes, there may be some better uses for and some good uses for those limited resources and better uses for their time and investigators, rather than just following up on leads that are provided by Members of Congress.

You can hear someone explaining that. But the lack of cooperation that we have had goes far beyond the fact that they are not going to give their limited resources or even use some of their investigators to track down what most of us would consider a very worthwhile lead, especially considering that the terrorist that we are asking to look into currently resides in the United States and may well have had something to do with the bombing of the World Trade Center and the bombing of the Oklahoma City building there.

But, again, a lot of my requests don't require a lot of time and effort on the part of the executive branch, and I still have been stonewalled. For the past year, for example, I have repeatedly requested to interview the imprisoned terrorist Ramzi Yousef. He is in Colorado and in strict lockup. He has been there for 10 years.

This would have taken no time and no resources from any executive branch or Federal employee. None. This request is well within my committee's jurisdiction as ranking member of the Investigative Subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

This request has been supported by the chairman of the Investigative Subcommittee, the chairman of the full Foreign Affairs Committee, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and the chairman of the Intelligence Committee.

Such attention by Congress should be welcomed by this administration and every administration. The legislative branch can help bring new information to light and inform the public.

Nevertheless, the Department of Justice, consistent with its treatment of congressional inquiries during the tenure of this President, has dismissed this valid request. This request has been treated with what can only be described as contempt and condescension.

The point is, unfortunately, that this rejectionist attitude is typical. It is not that they don't have enough resources to help out, to look into an easy matter to look into. It is just that they do not want to cooperate with Congress, even when it's a Republican in Congress, even when the Congress was controlled by a Republican majority.

So, why would this administration obstruct congressional inquiries such as this? Remember, Ramzi Yousef was the mastermind behind several devastating terrorist attacks and plots against America. He led the first murderous attack on the World Trade Center in 1993, as I say.After fleeing to the Philippines, he and two other terrorists plotted to kill thousands of Americans by blowing up 12 commercial airliners over the Pacific at the same time. It was known as the Bojinka plot. It was within 2 weeks of being executed when it was discovered and thwarted by Philippine police.

Interestingly, the terrorist operation, the Bojinka plot, was to take place about the same time as the Oklahoma City Federal building bombing, perhaps on the same day. We don't know. Perhaps we should know. Perhaps we should ask Ramzi Yousef about that.

Ramzi Yousef has been in Federal prison for over a decade. He is a prisoner with a unique understanding of the al Qaeda terrorist structure. He is the nephew of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the mastermind of the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center.

In 2006, when I was the chairman of the House Oversight Investigations Subcommittee on the Foreign Affairs Committee, I was investigating Yousef's movements and activities not only in the United States but in the Philippines. I even traveled to the Philippines to question authorities who had captured Yousef's roommate and coconspirator in the Bojinka plot.

In spite of that fact and in spite of the fact that I was looking into Yousef's terrorist activities and in spite of the fact that I had obtained new information about Yousef's phone calls right here in the United States and new information about his associates while he was in the United States, the Department of Justice still dismisses the effort and, more than that, they are obstructing a legitimate congressional investigation, refusing to permit this elected Member of Congress, a ranking member of a congressional investigating committee, to interview a Federal prisoner. They refused access to Yousef claiming that there is a "ongoing investigation.''

This prisoner has been in jail for over 10 years. It is more likely that what we have here is an ongoing coverup and not an ongoing investigation. In fact, I have been told recently by a former member of the Justice Department that they were told routinely simply to give answers that there is an ongoing investigation even if no ongoing investigation was underway, but simply using it as a phrase to dismiss a request from Congress.

Well, this is outrageous, but it's typical of this administration. This is a lot more than just a hurtful pride on my part of being turned down.

This administration is setting a terrible precedent. What people have to understand, when I am turned down like this, is when there is a liberal Democrat in the White House, the President will have set that Members of Congress can simply be dismissed, and that when they are trying to do a congressional investigation need not be cooperated with, in fact, can be obstructed. Is that the type of President that we want? Is that acceptable? It shouldn't be acceptable to Democrats and it shouldn't be acceptable to Republicans.

Doesn't Congress have a right to talk to Federal prisoners. Are these the rules of engagement? Is it really the rules of engagement that we want for our government that Members of Congress and the legislative branch don't have a right to talk to Federal prisoners?

Well, that's apparently what the Bush administration is trying to establish as the executive authority, as executive authority, the right to deny congressional investigators access to Federal prisoners. The danger of this should be easy to understand, both on my side of the aisle, the Republican side, and the Democratic side of the aisle.

Again, the attitude, apparent in the treatment of this request, is not an aberration or is it some sort of situation where this is not really a representative way the President has acted with his authority. No, I am afraid that's not the case.

This request was first made and denied when the Republicans controlled the Congress and I was the chairman of the Investigative Subcommittee."

Indeed, Samir Khahil is the name of a Palestinian national, who was living in Oklahoma city, and who had in his employ an Iraqi national who bears a strong resemblance to John Doe No. 2. The Iraqi's name is Hussain Alhussaini aka Al-Hussaini Hussain. A reporter by the name of Jayna Davis did the leg work matching a host of eyewitnesses putting Alhussaini in the company of Timothy McVeigh;

"You're talking about at least ten people that put Tim McVeigh with Hussain Al-Hussaini before the Oklahoma City bombing. Two people who identify Hussain Al-Hussaini (with McVeigh) in a bar on April 15. Three people who identify Hussaini Al-Hussaini running from the federal building early in the morning of April 19 at 5:30 A.M. as he is practicing timing himself. You have two witnesses that put Tim McVeigh with Hussain Al-Hussaini in the Ryder truck. You have one witness inside the Murrah Building who sees Hussain Al-Hussaini getting out of the truck ... .and he is seen driving away from the building," Johnson declared on the Fox News Channel, "My concern is that this angle was never pursued, and to this day, the FBI has refused to exonerate this man. They have refused to go out and check out his alibis."

But still, the FBI won't pursue it. Why? What better than to hitch the the OKC bomb to Iraqis and a terrorist milieu that spans the WTC 93 bombing and OKC two years later? Why did the Clinton regime stick to blaming OKC on two "lone nuts", McVeigh and Nichols, leaving everybody else off the hook?

Did something go wrong with the OKC plot? Was evidence not properly laid out, was the evidentiary trail leading to Iraqi nationals just not clear enough?

It sure is coincidental that a man possibly involved with the OKC bombing was working at Logan, kind of a tenuous link to 9/11. But there are far stronger links tying 9/11 and WTC 93. One is the "Triple Agent" Ali Mohamed;

Mohamed trained several members of the Brooklyn terror cell responsible for the bombing, including Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohamed Salameh, Clement Hampton-El and Siddig Siddig Ali, according to extensive court records, testimony and physical evidence.

When Ramzi Yousef and an accomplice entered the U.S. in 1992 to begin work on the bombing, they were carrying terrorist training material directly linked to Mohamed, according to physical evidence presented in court.

Yousef and his accomplice flew into the country after visting an al Qaeda encampment where -- according to multiple eyewitness accounts -- Mohamed was working as a trainer and assembling terrorist training manuals.

On entering the country, Yousef immediately contacted two of Mohamed's trainees, both of whom were later indicted for the World Trade Center bombing, court records show. - Source

Peter Dale Scott's essay "How the FBI protected Al Qaeda’s 9/11 Hijacking Trainer" delineates Mohamed's US intel connections, and his connections to 9/11;

It is now generally admitted that Ali Mohamed (known in the al Qaeda camps as Abu Mohamed al Amriki — "Father Mohamed the American") worked for the FBI, the CIA, and U.S. Special Forces. As he later confessed in court, he also aided the terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, a co-founder of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and by then an aide to bin Laden, when he visited America to raise money... 1993 Ali Mohamed had been detained by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Canada, when he inquired at an airport after an incoming al Qaeda terrorist who turned out to be carrying two forged Saudi passports. Mohamed immediately told the RCMP to make a phone call to the United States, and the call secured his release. We’ve since been told that it was Mohamed’s West coast FBI handler, John Zent, “who vouched for Ali and got him released.”

This release enabled Ali to go on to Kenya, take pictures of the U.S. Embassy, and deliver them to bin Laden for the Embassy bombing plot...

That Mohamed trained al Qaeda in hijacking planes and wrote most of the al Qaeda terrorist manual is confirmed in a new book by Lawrence Wright, who has seen US Government records. Let me say this again: one of al-Qaeda’s top trainers in terrorism and how to hijack airplanes was an operative for FBI, CIA, and the Army. ...

Within days of 9/11 Cloonan rushed backed from Yemen and interviewed Ali, whom the Feds had allowed to slip into witness protection, and demanded to know the details of the plot. "At that point Ali wrote it all out - including details of how he'd counseled would-be hijackers on how to smuggle box cutters on board aircraft and where to sit, to effect the airline seizures."

If all these latest revelations about Ali Mohamed are true, then:

1) a key planner of the 9/11 plot, and trainer in hijacking, was simultaneously an informant for the FBI.

2) This operative trained the members for all of the chief Islamist attacks inside the United States – the first WTC bombing, the New York landmarks plot, and finally 9/11, as well as the attacks against Americans in Somalia and Kenya.

3) And yet for four years Mohamed was allowed to move in and out of the country as an unindicted conspirator. Then, unlike his trainees, he was allowed to plea-bargain. To this day he may still not have been sentenced for any crime.

Peter Lance has charged that Fitzgerald had evidence before 1998 to implicate Mohamed in the Kenya Embassy bombing, yet did nothing and let the bombing happen. In fact, the FBI was aware back in 1990 that Mohamed had engaged in terrorist training on Long Island; yet it acted to protect Mohamed from arrest, even after one of his trainees had moved beyond training to an actual assassination.

The second, possibly more troubling connection is that of Ramzi Yousef himself. In 1995, Yossef Bodansky, (supreme establishment "Muslim terrorist" paradigm builder and reinforcer), released an intelligence warning that according to attorney David Schippers said in part;

"...that there was going to be an attack on the United States by bin Laden's people, that the original target, and this is the way it reads, the original target was supposed to be the White House and the Capitol building, and they were going to use commercial airliners as bombs."

Where did Bodansky get that crazy idea? I am going to speculate here, and suggest that one of Bodansky's connections tipped him off about the contents of Ramzi Yousef's laptop. Yousef's laptop was supposedly acquired in 1995 around the time he was hanging out with Abu Sayyaf. Abu Sayyaf, incidentally, has copious links to the CIA. (See also the recent documentary, "Fool Me Twice".)

Rafael Garcia was the man who found lots of interesting things on Yousef's laptop;

"Project Bojinka! This was one of the plans I had discovered on the computer of Ramzi Yousef in 1995 at the Josefa Apartments in Manila when a fire, accidentally triggered by Abdul Karim Murad and Yousef, attracted the attention of security personnel who called the police. Murad was apprehended while Yousef was able to escape to Pakistan where he was ultimately caught.

I've been working with the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) as an unofficial computer resource person since 1977. I am usually called in when they have computer files that need to be decoded. Some cases are exciting, like the computers confiscated from drug lords containing records of transactions as well as their contacts. Others are more mundane, like computers suspected of having pirated software installed on them.

So, you can imagine my reaction when I was approached for this case by then NBI senior investigating agent Federico Opinion. He said they had to decode a computer that had been discovered in an investigation being conducted by the Philippine National Police (PNP) and the NBI on some Arab terrorists. Because the computer is usually material evidence, I asked them to just copy the files onto another computer so that I could work on the copy. This was our SOP.

Decoding Yousef's computer was not difficult. I bypassed the passwords and immediately accessed the files. The principal job was reading the files and summarizing them. This was done using a text search program.

This was how we found out about the various plots being hatched by the cell of Ramzi Yousef. First, there was the plot to assassinate Pope John Paul II. We learned that a suicide bomber would approach the Pope and detonate a bomb that he would be carrying, killing the bomber, the Pope, and the people around both of them. Because the Pope was coming to Manila, we thought this was the principal plot and prime reason for the group to be in Manila.

Then, we discovered a second, even more sinister plot: Project Bojinka, or a Yugoslav term for loud bang. This was a plot to blow up 11 airlines over the Pacific Ocean, all in a 48-hour period. The planes would have come from Seoul, Hong Kong, Taipei, Tokyo, Bangkok, Singapore, and Manila. Even the airlines and the specific flight numbers had been chosen. There was a document where calculations had been made on how to set the timers on the bomb to be placed on each flight so that they would explode within a set time.

Then we found another document that discussed a second alternative to crash the 11 planes into selected targets in the United States instead of just blowing them up in the air. These included the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia; the World Trade Center in New York; the Sears Tower in Chicago; the TransAmerica Tower in San Francisco; and the White House in Washington, DC. Murad himself was to fly the plane that would be crashed into the CIA headquarters.

I think it is more than a coincidence that Bodansky would send out this warning almost verbatim to what was on Yousef's laptop. It also suggests that more people than just the local FBI officers and Patrick Fitgerald's investigators had access to the data.

Oh, by the way, Ramzi Yousef is also linked directly to the CIA.

According to Richard Labeviere in his book, "Dollars for Terror" (pp. 220-221), Yousef was recruited by the CIA;

"Ramzi Ahmed Youssef does not come across as a lost soul or a fanatic ready to make the supreme sacrifice; he is characterized rather as "a top terrorism professional", according to the FBI's notes. Youssef had a collection of forged passports and borrowed names ... A former mujaheddin of the Afghanistan "holy war", he apparently learned the arts of bomb-making, urban guerilla warfare, disguise and forged identity papers in Peshawar, Pakistan. A classified FBI file indicates that he was recruited by the local branch of the CIA."

So now we have two CIA agents, one a CIA/FBI agent, linked to the WTC 93 bombing and 9/11.

To even things out we have Emad Salem, bomb-maker, FBI informant, deep withing the WTC 93 plot.

Further, there is another FBI asset/informant deeply involved in the OKC bombing, a German national by the name of Andreas Strassmeir (also Strassmeyer). Strassmeir lived for a time at Elohim City, and on April 8, 1995 was witnessed at the Lady Godiva strip club in Tulsa, in the company of Timothy McVeigh, bragging to one of the waitresses that she would remember him on April 19, '95, and would remember him for the rest of her life.

No doubt!

You can see the eyewitness account of this episode, which was caught on a security camera, in Jon Ronson's documentary, "Secret Rulers of the World", fast-forward to the 1:00 mark of this YouTube excerpt;

The entire segment: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6

In Mother Jones magazine, writer James Ridgway describes Strassmeir's role at Elohim city;

"The community was patriarchal and polygamous, with all residents, including children, trained in the use of weapons by a visitor they called "Andy the German"—Andreas Strassmeir, a former German military officer...

Dennis Mahon, a former Klansman who had become a leader of the White Aryan Resistance, had a trailer there and participated in Andy the German's guerrilla warfare training...

...the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms was getting information from inside Elohim City for nearly a year before the Murrah bombing, via an ex-debutante named Carol Howe...

Howe's reports provided the batf—which, records show, shared some of the information with the fbi—with details about the weapons being stockpiled at Elohim City, Strassmeir's combat training, and Millar's sermons against the mud people and the U.S. government. Howe reported that Strassmeir had talked about blowing up federal buildings, and that he and Mahon had made several trips to Oklahoma City..."

Gosh! He sure sounds like a provocateur to me! (Also covered on Democracy Now!, August 3, 2007.)

So what is my point with this long and winding post? Fifteen years after the WTC 93 bombing, and we still don't know the truth. Nearly thirteen years following OKC, and we still don't know the truth. There are troubling parallels and repeating patterns and players in multiple terrorist incidents in the US, and US intelligence agencies are one of the repeating elements, with deeply placed "informants" in key positions every time.

Dana Rohrabacher should be applauded for having the guts to pick up one of the evidentiary threads that troubles him. He may be tugging on the wrong thread, but at least he's tugging. Please note that Rohrabacher is one of the Republicans who joined Dennis Kucinich in voting against H.R. 1955.

(For more links to skepticism about the actual bomb(s) used in Oklahoma in 1995, see the bottom half of this post.)

Please drop Rep. Rohrabacher a note of thanks, and encourage him to broaden his base of investigation;



One more parallel now linking JFK in with OKC and 9/11;

Peter Dale Scott;

"...certain things repeat themselves.

These things that repeat themselves include what we might call external features – which you are very familiar with in the JFK case - the ability of the government to establish a guilty party or parties immediately, and the press and media consumption of that product to the exclusion of all other possibilities.

Eventually, in both cases a commission is set up – the Warren Commission in 1963 and the 9/11 Commission this time in 2003.

And the starting point for both commissions is to validate what was already decided by the FBI on the day in question. That is the first of the common features that I would like to look at a bit more closely because it sort of hit me between the eyes when I thought about the two together.

Now if you remember the case of Oswald (and I have to do this from memory here, so correct me if I am wrong about the details) within fifteen minutes of the assassination and long before Oswald was picked up in the Texas Theater, they put out on the police network and possibly other networks, a description of the killer – five foot ten – 165 pounds, which exactly matches what is in his FBI file, exactly matches what’s in CIA documents about him.

One of the problems is it doesn’t match the actual height and weight of the man picked up and charged, which is more like five foot nine and 140 pounds. And it’s also very suspect because as far as we can trace the origins of this exact fit with the FBI file, it’s attributed to Howard Brennan – who saw someone two blocks from here in the sixth floor window, from the waist up. So you’ll have to figure out how they were able to get that exact measurement. It appears someone had already decided who was going to be charged before the police found Oswald in the Texas Theater.

Now the parallel to that for 9/11 is, I have to say, even more astounding, because of Richard Clarke, who was director for counter-terrorism activities in the White House, and a very important eyewitness. His book Against All Enemies is almost totally ignored by the 9/11 Commission, and it had to be ignored by the Commission because it is at odds, in many important respects, with what the 9/11 Report says (which I will get back to). But he tells us that at 9:59 am on September 11, which is the time when the second tower collapses, the North Tower, the FBI already had a list of the alleged hijackers.

This is extraordinary in the first place because the FBI always says about itself that it doesn’t do much intelligence in the field of terrorism; its specialty is criminal investigation afterwards. They had the names of hijackers at 9:59; at 9:59 am Flight 93 had not yet crashed. And even more astonishingly, if we believe the 9/11 Report (which of course on this point I do not believe), NORAD, which was searching for the hijacked planes, wasn’t aware that Flight 93 had been hijacked until 10:08, which is nine minutes later.

("I don't buy the idea that we didn't know what was coming," a former FBI official with extensive counter-terrorism experience has since said. "Within 24 hours [of the attack] the Bureau had about 20 people identified, and photos were sent out to the news media. Obviously this information was available in the files and somebody was sitting on it.")

So it’s worth thinking about that for a moment, the two events together. And then in the other cases that we know about, how the identity of the person who is ultimately going to be identified as the culprit is established at the very beginning - Sirhan Sirhan, the bag with the gun that identifies James Earl Ray – it isn’t investigative work AFTER the assassination, that finds these people, it is just following up what is already there, from the very beginning..."


At OKC, the framing of "Others Unknown", was launched immediately after the Murrah building was demolished;

And then there's that troublesome FBI-authorized all-points bulletin issued just minutes after the truck bomb exploded. The alert sent members of Oklahoma City law enforcement searching for two Middle Eastern-looking men seen speeding away from the blast area in a brown Chevy pickup with tinted windows and a bug shield. The APB was abruptly cancelled several hours later without explanation.

When patsies are to be fingered, the evidentiary trail is there instantaneously.

* PDF link to Rohrabacher's remarks;

Fascinating. The number of


The number of 'coincidences' are mathematically, statistically, impossible . . . . I wish all Americans could read this news in their Sunday papers tomorrow . . .

Will the truth of all these operations ever be known?


They will.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

I was never very good at

I was never very good at math - and certainly never took stats in high school. Whats the formulas for figuring out statistical probability for a given number of unique events?

I've tried figuring it out, but not to my success.

Any suggestions? thanks.

I only have one criticism of this essay:

that I can't give it a score of "20". VERY enlightening and well-written! Thanks, Reprehensor.

A smokescreen over 9/11 truth

The FBI was involved in both the Oklahoma City bombing and the 1993 WTC bombing where they cooked the bomb. Extra bombs in the Murrah Building didn't go off. Well documented. Just Google it.

There has been no proof of any hijackers or Arabs on 9/11. Passengers were killed on aircraft dumped into the Atlantic Ocean. Drones hit the towers and the Pentagon and another drone was blown up over Pennsylvania by a White Jet seen by at least 12 witnesses on the record.

The FED GOV is just saying the patsies were real to support their fairytale. See the research:

Keystone Cops 9/11: The Pentagon Target Wall Demolition

Will definitely send him support.

I am delightfully speechless with tears. Yes, we still have some principled people in Washington.

Michael Brescia was John Doe #2 IMHO

For what it's worth, Bill Cooper claimed that Timothy McVeigh and Michael Brescia showed up at his house out of the blue not too long before the OKC bombing (telling him they were fans of his and wanted to meet him). Cooper also said that Brescia was wearing the same hat that's seen in the composite sketch of John Doe #2.
"If I had just paid $20 million for the NIST report, I'd be asking for a refund!... The trouble with the NIST Report is that it isn’t even science because it's not capable of being verified or negated!"
-Dr. Frank Greening

Could be.

I suppose it's possible that Davis is a shill, and was fed bogus witnesses who would (or could) later waffle in court. Daniel Hopsicker certainly bet on the wrong horse when he put virtually all his money on Amanda Keller.

But that is counterintuitive to the notion that OKC was a False Flag attack, that may have had other patsies in mind, like the Iraqis. In that scenario, the "witnesses" would remain as true as gold. Some speculate that Keller was ordered to change her testimony.

The obviousness of the "Middle Eastern Men" fleeing the Ryder truck and making a spectacle of themselves suggests strongly that they were patsies.

And here is another thing that ties JFK, OKC, and 9/11;

Within minutes of the assassination of JFK, an APB went out with a physical description of the suspect...

this is going to take too much room. I'll tag it at the end of the original blog entry.

The Cooper story is probably true. McVeigh was fingering lots of folks.

Is there more info on Amanda Keller renouncing that she was

Atta's girlfriend? It's going to take more than a little news article quoting the FBI, published on Sept. 10, 2006, to completely dissuade me about Attta & Keller having a relationship.

Consider mass emailing truth messages. More info here:

The authenticity of how that security camera recording

was saved is just amazing!
Thank-you for this 15th anniversary speech on the OKC bombings, Rep Dana Rohrabacher, and thank-you "Reprehensor" for putting in the HTML links to such critically authentic video evidence.

Blogging was the advantage of getting the story through an outlet that is not owned by the military-corporate interests, of the spontaneous participatory nature of the remarks sent in, and of the amazing real-life little video-snippets that we get, where also "non-verbal" communication" comes through so strong! One of my favorites is watching while Zelikow explains about the neo-con Parallel Universe! (See also part I of this Snow Shoe Films gem!)

"unflinching, unswerving, fierce intellectual determination, as citizens, to define the real truth of our lives and our societies is a crucial obligation which devolves upon us all. It is in fact mandatory." (Harold Pinter)

That is some fantastic work, Reprehensor

This should be placed in some kind of blogger hall of fame. ;-)

It does indeed appear that there are too many coincidences to be just coincidences, especially regarding WTC 1993 and OKC.

Great find, and great synthesis.

What does it mean?

Dana Rohrabacher is a strange dude. He has been steadfast in his support of this pResident and his obscene policies. Now he's waking up and smelling the fish? I am deeply suspicious of Rohrabacher. I'm sorry but I can't help it. I think he's totally compromised scum, and it will take more than this article to convince me otherwise.

Here is something to chew on, regarding Rohrabacher -- He claims to have given prior warning about the 911 attacks.

Here is the video

Maybe he

is positioning himself for what he believes will be the next democratic administration. His speech dredges up incredible anger at why he has done nothing to stem this administration's abuse of power. BTW, since the intelligence agencies and the FBI have made "sting" operations their forte (witness all the so-called terrorist plots beginning with the blind shiekh up to the present day that are all stings but promoted as real terrorist plots), and since a sting operation can be so easily transformed into a real operation, as it appears was evident in the '93 wtc bombing, we can see how easily all the real terrorist events can be accounted for, including Oklahoma City and, of course, 9-11.

Strange is a mild word ..

The guy was a mujahedin-fan, stayed with them in Afghanistan during the Soviet liberation-attempt and is a friend of Jack Abramoff.
It's the good old Reagan-crazies at it again .

"Rohrabacher had a history of involvement in Afghanistan dating back to the Cold War, when he openly supported the groups that were fighting troops from the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. [14]. In late 1988, Rohrabacher went to Afghanistan:

After I left the White House and was elected to Congress, but before I was sworn into Congress, I knew I had that two months between November and January to do things that I could never do once I was elected to Congress. I chose to hike into Afghanistan as part of a small Mujahedin unit and to engage in a battle against the Russian and communist forces near and around the city of Jalalabad.[15]

In the November/December 1996 issue of Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, Rohrabacher was reported as saying that the Taliban were not terrorists or revolutionaries, that they would develop a disciplined society that would leave no room for terrorists, and that the Taliban posed no threat to the United States.[16]

However, in a September 11, 1998 editorial in the The Washington Post, Rohrabacher strongly rebuked the Taliban for providing refuge to Osama bin Laden, mass killings of Shi'ites and ethnic Uzbeks, Turks, and Tajiks, and restrictions on the rights of Afghan women and children:

It has been no secret that bin Laden has been sheltered by the Taliban. The Clinton administration was mute while one of the most violent anti-Western Muslim sects spilled into Afghanistan from their Pakistan-based "religious schools" and took control of the capital. We remained paralyzed while they moved to destroy moderate Muslim forces. While administration officials expressed concern of the Taliban's complete denial of rights for women, it was little more than lip service. Even modest support from the United States for moderate Muslim forces in Afghanistan and serious political pressure on Pakistan could have thwarted the takeover of this strategically important country by these militant extremists. The danger of the spread of fanaticism expressed by the newly independent republics of Central Asia was smugly ignored.

During the summer of 2001, Rohrabacher made a trip to Qatar that was paid for by the Islamic Institute and the Government of Qatar, according to Rohrabacher’s financial disclosure forms. While in Qatar, Rohrabacher, Grover Norquist, and Khaled Saffuri met with Taliban Foreign Minister Mullah Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil. Wakil reportedly asked for help in increasing the amount of foreign aid sent by the United States to Afghanistan, apparently in exchange for U.S. oil company UNOCAL being allowed to construct of an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. If Rohrabacher was conducting diplomacy, he was in violation of the Logan Act, which prohibits citizens from doing so if not in an official capacity. Rohrabacher told wire service reporters who were present in Doha, Qatar at the time that he had discussed a “peace plan” with the Taliban. But Norquist, a close associate of Rohrabacher, said that the meeting happened accidentally and that it included Rohrabacher yelling at them about blowing up the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan.[17]

The Taliban later announced in Kabul that it had rejected what it considered were unreasonable demands by the U.S. side. Rohrabacher’s staff would not answer questions about the Taliban talks. [18]

After the September 11, 2001 attacks, Rohrabacher claimed that the attacks were due to incompetence on the part of the Clinton administration. [19]

..and Rohrabacher was named Countdown with Keith Olbermann's "Worst Person in the World" on April 25 2007 because of his defense of rendition and torture. Maybe it's a build-up to blame everything on Clinton ?

"Listen carefully now : DO NOT DESTROY OIL-WELLS" Dubya

Rohrabacher is tight with Blackwater

He was one of two members of congress present at the opening of the main Blackwater facility in North Carolina. Who knows what he's up to... very interesting to say the least.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

This is absolutely mind boggling!!

If this is true, why wasn't this on every MSM news show??

For this very conservative member to say this on the House floor is HUGE!!

Are the bush bobble heads finally putting 2 and 2 together?

Is the dam breaking? God, I hope so!!


Because the MSM is also mobbed up (linked to FBICIANSA etc).

The only thing at this point that can be done, since the other branches of Government have become impotent, is to name names... in order to paralyze those who were involved in these matters and in order so that future attacks will be discouraged. Once they've been named, they can do nothing about it and become impotent to reverse its effect. Once something is said, it cannot be taken back.

The present administration, and even the next, of an Obama, Mccain, or Clinton Presidency, does not have the wherewithal to prosecute or investigate these matters to the full extent of the law.

Coincidence or Design?

The obvious connection of all of the major terrorist attacks (93 bombing, OK bombing, 9/11, 7/7), is that some of the alleged "terrorists" have ties to Western intelligence. This is not a coincidence. I was not aware of the connections between 93 and OK... very amazing that this has not been noted before. Very interesting article.
Arabesque: 911 Truth

joe ...

Thanks for the link, however, I can't find Dana R. speech, even streamlining the archives from 9:00am to 12:00pm, on that day which assuming is 2/26/08. Can you clue me, more or less, to the timeframe? Was it later in the evening, and CSPAN simply does not separate individual speakers during the day?

CSPAN played the speech last night

at about 8:00 pm on the East Coast. The video is better than the transcript as the guy takes his time &
even repeats himself, to make sure his audience his understanding what he is trying to say


Still can't find the vid, hope someone puts this on YT, as it is big ticket.

I watched Rohrabacher's

house speech on CSPAN last night & it was amazing. Somebody has to post this & get it on you-tube
He clearly points out how the justice department has done everything they can NOT TO DO any justice
or cooperate with the his house oversight commitee.

Talk about a Constitutional crime.

I've got my eye on this guy & we will see if he is going to go forward or just give

I think Orange County's California 9/11 group should visit him & see if this guy is willing to carry the
torch of justice.