Joe Scarborough commentator: "I hope we have a special prison for 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists"

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The guy's name is Willie Geist.

We WILL NOT tolerate this!

This must be addressed by all people, whether or not you are a 9/11 truther, This is a Constitutional (First Amendment) issue and MSNBC is now promoting violence towards those who disagree with their 'government controlled agenda'.

All advertisers of MSNBC's Morning Joe show should also be contacted regarding this outrageous comment.

Mr. Phil Griffin,
Senior Vice President, News
NBC Television Network
30 Rockefeller Plz
New York, NY 10112

Steve Capus,
President, NBC News

30 Rockefeller Plz
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(212) 664-4444

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

Ge these addresses up on a

Ge these addresses up on a blog so people have easy access to them. We need to flood MSNBC with complaints to let them know we will not stand for this. Great work on getting the information though, thanks!

We Won't!

The 911 Truth Movement is on the Cutting Edge of Freedom, Truth & Justice.


Are they planning to throw certain members of the European Parliament and Japanese Diet into secret prisons?

Yukihisa Fujita

Yukihisa Fujita – Member, House of Councillors (the upper house), National Diet of Japan. Director, Committee on Foreign Affairs and Defense. Former Member of the House of Representatives. Former Director General of the International Department of the Democratic Party of Japan.

Yukihisa Fujita's speech at the House of Councillors

Giulietto Chiesa

Giulietto Chiesa – Member of European Parliament, 2004 - present (Italy). Vice Chairman, Committee on International Trade. Member of Committee on Security and Defense. Journalist 1980 - 2004

Or perhaps the Russians?

General Leonid Ivashov

General Leonid Ivashov – Former Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces on 9/11/2001, and Department Chief for General affairs in the Soviet Union's Ministry of Defense.
Essay 1/22/06: Regarding 9/11 "Only secret services and their current chiefs – or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations – have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. ...

Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders."

Much More at of course.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

I emailed...

... all of the above.

MP3 Audio Clip - Alex Jones & Mike Rivero

Tuesday March 4, 2008
Alex Jones and Mike Rivero talk about the Clinton protester who was arrested for displaying a 9/11 truth sign and about how the "popular" media is now openly calling for the arrest, detention and torture of those who oppose the official 9/11 narrative

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March 4
MSNBC hosts mock Sep. 11 conspiracy theorists; 'I hope we have special prison' for them

freedom of speech.

Your right we cant tolerate this!!! Whats happening is these media scumbags are calling on there friends in congress and our in ourgovernment to legislate against our freedom of speech.

who did we hurt ? Was there a injured party ? no one
hell no?

The fucking media is threatening us, with being tazered and thrown into git mo. Where the ACLU?

We need to bring a lawsuit against these media whores they are threatening our Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

If you don't like the ACLU call them anyways tell them the thought police (MSM) our threatening our lives and I am a 911 truther and I ain't going stop telling the truth.
and will you show me the law were I cant.

Massaging the Base

Scarborough and fellow reporters did what they were told - mollify the neo-con base who are constantly getting exposed to 9/11 truth thanks to We Are Change and others. Unfortunately, it does work because the base is aurthoritarian and will believe what is spoon fed to them from their vile twisted network reporters/traitors. But, eventually even the most right wing viewers will start smelling the skunks.

The second amendment is there to enforce the first amendment.

Dude marzi I know they have writers that write there scripts, for all the nonsesense that they promote.
I know who owns the media, and I have came to the conclusion of who did 911, and it ain't fuck in Bush or Cheney ether.
The problem here is that there fuckining threatening my well being for speaking my conscience, and thats were I lose my shit.
Tomorrow I will be on the horn talking to everyone I Know in government, and telling them this is bullshit.
I will not sit on my hands.

PS The second amendment is there to enforce the first amendment.

All true patriots need to

All true patriots need to join forces now. All the individual groups who are questioning the government and being attacked for this. Please read this email I received today from How do we organize and join forces with our military groups, active duty and vets, police, fire, first responders? We have some sort of window of opportuntity before the next election to bring GLARING attention to this . . . What's the best way? Phone calls? Letters? Protests? What will wake up the rest of America who will fight (figure of speech) with us? Just thinking out loud. No easy answers other than it'll take "lots of people and lots of noise" . . . Betsy

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I want to thank those of you who supplied MSNBC addresses on this thread (BTW newsforce@msnbc just came back undeliverable) and share the letter I just sent to them:

Mr. Scarborough,

I am outraged at the comments from Willie Geist on your show of 3/4/2008.

“I hope there is a special prison for 9/11 conspiracy theorists” was delivered amidst snickers from you and your staff.

I want you to realize that you are advocating that American citizens be stripped of their first amendment right to free speech, and this advocacy points to nothing less than fascism.

I would think that a former U.S. congressman would be well versed in the constitution and would further be an advocate of its guarantees for every citizen of this country, but your sniggering, belittling attitude indicates otherwise.

I hereby demand that you demonstrate that MSNBC in general, and your show in particular, is not afraid to have a serious, well-informed discussion of why so many people are calling for a new investigation, by inviting architect Richard Gage, physicist Steven Jones and author David Ray Griffin on your show to relate their research on the events of September 11th.

This is not a request; it is a demand in the interest of fair, balanced and honest journalism. If I don’t see these gentlemen on your show within the next two weeks, I, and thousands like me will be taking our case to your sponsors. I would like to believe that my country was still served by a free and independent press, but I see no evidence of it in your programming as concerns this matter.

I honestly don’t think you realize what you’re up against here. The 9/11 Truth movement already claims millions of advocates, and our numbers are increasing every day.
And if you learn nothing else about us, learn this: we will NEVER be silenced. Our very lives and freedoms depend on it.

W.C. Knox

If you notice, I made a promise to them which involves all of you. I promised an email blitz to their sponsors if they didn't invite Gage, Jones and Griffin on the program. I hope I can count on you all to follow through with this promise.


Great letter, thanks. I hate television, but I wil try to watch

this guy's show (with the sound off) in order to find out who his sponsors are, and post the list here (if someone else doesn't beat me to it).

Patriotic Americans

Please do something about this. Don't let history repeat itself.

Last year

Scarborough hosted Bonaduce, calling for Rosie's death

Phone: 212-664-4444
Fax: 212-664-4085

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Lots of Skeletons in Scarborough's closet.

Who Is MSNBC Anchor Joe Scarborough?

Death of Lori Klausutis

Pls check out :

....."FORT WALTON BEACH, FL. - Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fl), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide.".....

YT, perhaps you can cover this on your radio show. People need to know we are not dealing with Honest Joe here.

He should be held accountable if there was any foul play. Sure look suspicious. Especially the Media Silence.

Happened on July 20, 2001.

It takes a Murderer to cover / protect another. Explains a lot.

Perhaps blackmail or the fear of it, is his motivation.

Needs further investigation.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

...."In response to the

...."In response to the arrest of a 9/11 demonstrator during a Bill Clinton appearance in Corpus Christi, corporate media shill and former Republican Congress critter Joe Scarborough and his co-hosts demanded 9/11 truthers be tasered and taken to detention camps. “Where’s the taser?” Joe wants to know as MSNBC runs footage of the man’s arrest. “Tase him!” His co-host adds: “Led away in handcuffs and hopefully taken to one of those secret prisons in eastern Europe and never to be heard from again… I hope we have a special prison for 9/11 conspiracy theorists.”.....

People like this?

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Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career. Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.

Col. Ronald D. Ray

Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense during the Reagan Administration and a highly decorated Vietnam veteran (two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart). Appointed by President George H.W. Bush to serve on the American Battle Monuments Commission (1990 - 1994), and on the 1992 Presidential Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces. Military Historian and Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center, Washington, D.C. 1990 - 1994.

Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD

Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.

Col. George Nelson, MBA

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career. Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.

Capt. Russ Wittenberg

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC.

Capt. Eric H. May

Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret) – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. Former inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team.

Raymond L. McGovern

Raymond L. McGovern – Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’ Daily Brief (PDB) for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.

William Christison – Former National Intelligence Officer and Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis. 29-year CIA veteran.

Hundreds more here

And tens of millions more here.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Great post constitutional911

look at those beady eyed radical fruitcake terrorists!


Let's not forget her.

Maybe they are planning to throw her into the French Bastille, The Bastille Saint-Antoine.

Or him.

Big Guest coming up on Alex Jones' show tomorrow.
The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Captain Eric May

Captain Eric May

"In Ireland David Ray Griffin's appearance was canceled and he was labeled anti-Semetic due to posts by "Captain Eric May" being featured on Morgan Stack's website.
* May is yet another "former" intelligence person who advocates numerology to expose the 9-11 coverup.
* May is openly anti-semetic, describing the media and Hollywood as 'controlled by the Jews'."

Nice list, but watch out for some of the "patriots".
Arabesque: 911 Truth

Thanks for telling me this.

I had absolutely NO IDEA this was going on.

Great. Fetzer, Tarpley and now this guy?

Its getting real difficult for me to keep track of the flakes out there sometimes.

Thanks for the heads up.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Not new...

Bill O’Reilly Calls For Fascist 9/11 Activist Loons To Be Arrested

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Edit: This speaks for itself... from SLC...

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The A Word

Shameful to see Kurt Nimmo and Steve Watson smearing anarchists in an attempt to prove themselves patriotic to creatures like Joe Scarborough. I wonder if they would extend the same slander to anarchists like Tolstoy and Gandhi?

I respect your position but

I respect your position but I do not fully understand.

How would you define anarchism and is it a viable solution? Will it help the movement?

Perhaps you can expand on your ideas / point of view.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it


"Perhaps you can expand on your ideas / point of view."

Hey C911;

Here’s a piece I did in response to an article by George Washington (the blogger, not the tyrant ;)

I do not wish to hijack this thread so if anyone wants to debate the issue please sign up at truthaction.

The problem with this particular piece is that it contrasts the philosophy of anarchism with, and I quote, “highly educated and progressive individuals who are strictly opposed to violence and are intent on protecting a free and peaceful society.” This is actually a pretty good description of anarchists themselves, or at least those of the non-black-bloc variety. In fact, the 911 truth movement embraces many if not most anarchist principles, described here in an essay by the anthropologist David Graeber:

Ddecentralization, voluntary association, mutual aid, the network model, and above all, the rejection of any idea that the end justifies the means, let alone that the business of a revolutionary is to seize state power and then begin imposing one's vision at the point of a gun. Above all, anarchism, as an ethics of practice-the idea of building a new society "within the shell of the old"- which has from the start been less about seizing state power than about exposing, de-legitimizing and dismantling mechanisms of rule while winning ever-larger spaces of autonomy and participatory management within it.”

The other problem with Watson/Nimmo’s piece is that it makes an assumption about the political beliefs of the “majority” of the 911 truth movement. Whether this assumption is accurate is beside the point: it’s exclusionary to people to who do not necessarily embrace the form of “Republicanism” preached by Alex Jones etc. I would venture to guess that many in the movement identify less with men like James Madison than they do the anti-federalists of his era, who argued, for example, that:

"Upon an attentive examination [of the Constitution] you can pronounce it nothing less, than a government which in a few years, will degenerate to a compleat Aristocracy, armed with powers unnecessary in any case to bestow . . . and which in its vortex swallows up every other Government upon the Continent. In short, my fellow citizens, it can be said to be nothing less than a hasty stride to Universal Empire in this Western World, flattering, very flattering to young ambitious minds, but fatal to the liberties of the people . . ."

You may not agree with this interpretation, but again that’s not the issue. The issue is responsible journalism.

Thanks for your input

The average layman (like me) probably has the impression that anarchy refers to a state of lawlessness or violent rebellion.

I believe that is why people are averse to that idea. Perhaps a more indepth study or examination of the field / topic may be required on my part.

I will do more research to further educate myself.

I do however believe, most if not all of us agree that using violence - provoked or otherwise only HELPS the other side -the REAL TERRORISTS IN 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue- and is self-defeating.

Unless of course it is for self-defence & the preservation of life.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it


Maybe this is why:

Compares different types of govt:

Short flash video called Philosphy of Liberty:

I certainly do not support anarchy by any means. It is no replacement for a Constitutional Republic. Watch the above 29 minute mini-documentary and see for yourself.
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Many hands make light work!
International truth action every day, every 11th!

Tyranny by another name

If you wish to debate the issue I'd be happy to do so; just sign up at truthaction and post in the aforementioned thread. Cheers.

Hey Chuck, how about you and Marion Cotillard star in a movie

as a pair of American and French journalists who fall in love while searching together for the truth behind 9/11?

Show "I don't get it" by Richard D. Brinkman

You don't.

Are you one of the people who thought the Bill Maher event wasn't polite enough either??? Give me a break. What have you done lately to get on national news regarding 9/11 Truth. I know I haven't gotten this much attention for it. We are going to get criticized by the MSM no matter how polite, or slim, or common or whatever we are. Do it anyway. This guy. The Bill Maher Show. Rosie O'Donnell. They are good for us. Speaking out against tyranny is needed. Silence is by far the worst.


What too many people here don't "get" is that we're already in a special prison for 9/11 conspiracy theorists. It's called the American mass media.

We're not gonna overthrow this prison by the efforts of lone individuals shouting slogans in settings that are clearly the wrong place at the worst time. Frankly this is exactly the kind of tactic most effectively used by provocateurs seeking to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement by appearing to represent it.

We have a lot of complex evidence. We need only unite and act as a group with a clear message that calls for, and can get, a new and independent investigation. This investigation will look at the evidence, take testimony, educate the masses, and reveal the truth. Then there will be justice.

One loud guy with a sign in the wrong place under the worst of circumstances is a bullet in our collective foot. If we don't "get" that, we will remain in this "special prison" of marginalization by a mainstream media that doesn't even have to break a sweat misrepresenting our cause.

"The innocence of the creatures is in inverse proportion to the immorality of the Master." Thomas Pynchon

You have blown your cover, Myshkin, we know you are al-CIA-duh.


Clowntime is Over

It's demoralizing to see just how tenuous your grasp of reality is. Such naiveté about power does little to help further the cause of exposing the truth of 9/11 and persuading others to want to do the same.

I notice you've read David Ray Griffin's New Pearl Harbor. I recommend you make an attempt to read his other books and try to grasp his clear-eyed assessment of what we can expect from the mainstream media and the many vested interests that succeed so well at marginalizing the 9/11 Truth Movement. Especially when aided by such easy targets of ridicule as some lone heckler. If you have higher expectations of the response from MSNBC or any other corporate "news" organization, you're embarrassingly misguided.

Just what is it about advocating for and working to produce the result of an independent investigation — as the most dedicated of 9/11 family members continue to apply their own efforts to accomplishing — that you find so suspect?

Grow up, get real, and educate yourself about power. You're in serious need of thinking about how to produce change instead of comic relief for the bastards who own our airwaves, our government and more of your ass than you have even a clue about.

I wasn't joking. Truthers aren't as stupid as your side wants to

believe we are.

Stop talking like Ann Coulter

I don't know what "side" you're gibbering about, but making baseless accusations is the established M.O. of right-wing loudmouths. Hilariously (or tragically) you don't even realize how exactly like this Joe Scarborough creep you sound. And the fact that you can't see this, makes you a menace to the efforts of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

As for your: "Truthers aren't as stupid" as anyone would want to believe... you prove the very opposite of this statement with every word you write, discrediting many tens of thousands of dedicated activists for the 9/11 cause.

9/11 is far too important to waste any more of my time countering your irrational snits and schoolyard accusations. You're like the bratty children of Winston's neighbors in Orwell's "1984". Those "child heroes" running around in their silly uniforms, brandishing toy pistols and yelling "Traitor!" and "Thought-criminal!" at anyone they see, and without the slightest idea of the consequences of doing so.

MSNBC took their physical address off their website since I

wrote them a snail-mail letter recently. I don't know if the removal was my fault, but I do know that physical letters are more effective than emails. Not to undervalue emails, because they are cheap, easy, effective, and I do write them. But I think because a paper letter is harder to destroy than an email, and the recipient knows the sender put in more time, effort, and expense to send the snail-mail, the stronger belief of the sender is more effective in placing doubt in the recipient's mind (which is what we want).

Here is their address:

1 MSNBC Plaza
Secaucus NJ 07024

The email addresses for their shows were hidden away in their FAQ page: (Dayside)

You can also e-mail

I can't believe he said that!

Put people in prisons for holding a sign and shouting?
And not an ordinary prison but a secret (torture!) East European prison, never to be heard from again?
How can someone say this and NOT get fired?
In Germany a gameshow-host (Juliane Ziegler) was fired for saying ", come on a little more enthousiastic, work liberates" (Arbeit macht frei) the slogan that was put above the Auschwitz camp entrance. She didn't intend to make fun of victims, she said it to comfort a caller who was tired and did not like to go to his work. Despite apologies (for just speaking German!) she was fired anyway.

“Fritzsche is not in the

“Fritzsche is not in the dock as a free journalist but as a propagandist who helped substantially to tighten the Nazi stranglehold over the German people, who made the excesses of the conspirators palatable to the German people, who goaded the German nation to fury and crime against people they were told by him were subhuman.

“Without the propaganda apparatus of the Nazi State, the world would not have suffered the catastrophe of these years, and it is because of Fritzsche’s role in behalf of the Nazi conspirators, and their deceitful and barbarous practices, that he is called to account before the International Military Tribunal.” - Drexel Sprecher, Nuremberg prosecutor

“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson

The propaganda apparatus has never

disappeared and is still working world wide.


Why is this blog being voted down?


It could be just for the opinion of the content. I'd rate the content a negative one because it is so sick. But I rated the post a 10 because it exposes this filth. You know what I'm saying. It might not be a malicious type of vote. Although there could be some good ol' boys on here voting posts down as well in support of tyranny?? Peace.

Scarborough outrage

I emailed MSNBC:
To Scarborough and Geist:
How DARE you make comments about those who question events on Sept. 11, 2001!? This is the most UN-American thing I have heard, yet. YOU, who use the public's airwaves, need to understand who the boss is in this country. It is We the People, whose unalienable rights are protected by the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights - a document that I believe you should read carefully. Pay special attention to Article One. And, according to most polls, there are almost half of us who want an independent investigation into the events, behaviors, and roles of certain government officials of that day. I seriously doubt that you have even read The "911 Commission Report," which was directed by Philip Zelikow. Philip Zelikow wrote his college thesis on creating public myths, co-authored Catastrophic Terrorism concerning the effects of a peace-time terrorist attack and its domestic security/civil liberties implications and was appointed head of the 9/11 Commission Report, despite co-authoring a book with Condoleeza Rice, one of the Comissions' key witnesses.

The "911 Commission Report" was found by many to be seriously deficient in explaining what happened. The unanswered questions of that day are not trivial. Many of these unanswered questions would normally be reported on by responsible news organizations. Unfortunately for the American People, there is no longer an objective news media. We have "infotainment," and irresponsible"opinions" by the likes of you.

It is outrageous that these comments should be uttered by you and your "colleague." I always knew the media is a shill for the Military Industrial/banking complex, but you have crossed the line from responsible commentary to promotion of fascist thuggery.

As Henry Ford said, "It is well that the people of this nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be revolution before tomorrow morning."

The bright side

This means we're winning, and they're scared. They should be.

double post

sorry. I'll just add that I mean they should be scared of being revealed for what they are, and maybe even going to prison themselves. I'm not advocating violence, nor is anyone here. I'm not an anarchist, by the way, but anarchism is simply a political philosophy of no government, not violence. There's no need for us to pander -- our patriotism is manifest in our actions.

Kinda gets ya fired up don't it?

Take the anger you get from viewing that and deflect it back at them on the streets.

We're entering endgame, the desperation is starting to reek.

The endgame is yet to come, but be ready for when it comes

I wouldn't say we've entered the endgame. That's a few years off yet.

But they are getting nervous. Because this 9/11 truth thing isn't dying down like their handlers told them it would. Instead it's getting bigger and noisier and smarter, just what it wasn't supposed to do after all the tens of billions spent on putting the fix on the MSM etc.

Make no mistake about it:

The MSM was in on 9/11 from the start. That's key to why the perps were willing to undertake such an audacious operation: They knew they could count on BBC, AP, Reuters, the Hearst Publishing Corp., the New York Times Publishing Co., Time-Warner, CPB, CBC, ad nauseum to do the dirty work of keeping the public in the dark and marginalizing those not getting with the program.

It worked like a charm for a long time, but it's slowly fraying away. Keep up the work, everybody. The emerging information technology and its attendant Zeitgeist are all moving our way. The only thing we have to fear is resignation. They're hoping we'll just get too impatient and give up.

"Make no mistake about

"Make no mistake about it:

The MSM was in on 9/11 from the start."


The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

MSNBC should be sued

I don't think this type of BS should be tolerated - especially since the actual 9/11 "conspiracy theorists" in the US government are the ones we should be preparing a special prison for. Here's the letter I sent to the addresses above. I implore everybody to do the same, we are nearing the point when our voice could be lost if we don't use it effectively:

Demand for apology and retraction by Joe Scarborough

If you allow this type of bigoted hate-speech to be associated with your network then you will surely lose a large market share - as well as expose yourselves to derision and potential legal action from literally millions of people.

I suggest you reprimand this egregious Joe Scarborough fellow lest you look like complete idiots.


Joe Scarborough

just put a big bulls-eye on his back

Every Breath he takes We Will Be Watching.

Ode to the Neo Cons Music Video

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

I think it's time

to start an American "White Rose Society." I have never in my life been so ashamed of being an American. I love my country and it's people but I hate the thugs who have taken it over. These thugs make Hitler look like Jesus Christ. Sometimes I think it's nothing but a bad nightmare I am having. Problem is, I never wake up. Sorry to say it's real and won't end until real Americans revolt. Do we have the balls? I pray that we do.

There Will Be a Special Prison Only For MSM Propagandist

When the student is ready the teacher will come.

Hello Truthseekers & Truthtellers,
I hope we get a special prison built for these mainstream media propagandist. Then we can torture them by having them watch constant replays of themselves spewing out their garbage. It's time to give these media propagandist a heavy dose of our committment to 9/11 Truth and demonstrate in front of these media outlets on a regular basis. Let's show them our passion for truth. These media idiots saying," we need a special prison for 9/11 Truth activists" should be a call to all 9/11 Truthers and free speech activists to fight back with every fiber we have left in our existense. They need the right of free speech documents rolled up like a scroll and shoved right down their throats where it gets stuck so they can't spew this propaganda anymore. Thanks for reading this I needed to get this out of my system and cool off. Take Care Matt

Who Is MSNBC Anchor Joe Scarborough?

"FORT WALTON BEACH, FL. - Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fl), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide."


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Special Report

A Death in the Congressman's Office
Does Anybody in the Press Care About Lori Klausutis?

By Denis Wright and Chris George

August 8, 2001 (APJP)

Once upon a time, the phrase "investigative reporter" actually meant something. It usually involved hard work, possibly even mentation. Now, it seems, they just make stuff up. Especially on the Fox News Channel, where an uninitiated viewer could easily think she/he had tuned in Comedy Central. It's "Chandra-Chandra-Chandra" with the occasional "Condit is just like Clinton" thrown in. Given our media's 24/7 obsession with the Gary Condit "scandal", you might assume that there is a real dearth of hard news to pursue.

In reality, there is indeed a news story percolating out there. The story bears remarkable and ironic similarities to the Condit/Levy story. Both involve Congressmen, rumors of infidelity, and the fate of a younger female subordinate. The details are so similar as to remind one of two alternate universes. The difference between the two stories? First, in the Klausutis case as not in the Levy case, there is a real body, very dead. Second, the Klausutis case involves a Republican.

The story had a brief flutter in the Northwest Florida press, which ran a few very short stories on Lori's death. With the exception of the Northwest Florida Daily News, they were of the "Aw-what-a-shame/ nothing-to-see-here-move-along-now-folks" variety. But nationally, this mysterious death earned a mere one paragraph mention in The Washington Post's NATION IN BRIEF column:

"FORT WALTON BEACH, FL. - Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fl), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide."

Unbelievably, that was it. The story was simply dropped. A young female employee of one of Florida's Congressmen had died unexpectedly in the Congressman's office. There were no witnesses to her death and the cause of death was not apparent. Klausutis' boss, Joe Scarborough had recently resigned from Congress prematurely and unexpectedly, amid rumors about his marital fidelity and soon after a divorce. He had also abruptly resigned as publisher of the Independent Florida Sun, claiming that resigning from Congress and as publisher was necessary to spend more time with his sons.

Such circumstances make one pause. Sick to death of the clear bias of the corporate owned media, and suspicious of the odd nature of this death, we began to dig for answers. The more information we discovered, the more unlikely, and the more newsworthy the story became.

Here are the facts. Lori Klausutis had a seemingly happy life. A devoted husband who listed on his online homepage "being married to Lori" as one of the honors he enjoyed, a new home in Niceville and a Catholic congregation where she was a cantor and in whose choir she sang, were some of the elements of the Good Life she enjoyed. Her husband, Dr. Timothy Klausutis, did research and development for the munitions group at nearby Eglin Air Force Base, where he presumably made a good livelihood. Although Lori hailed from the Atlanta, Georgia area where she had attended school, there were numerous family members in the area. According to her obituary in the Fort Walton Daily News, Lori had served as President and, later, Treasurer, for the Emerald Coast Young Republicans and as a aide to Congressman Scarborough, she was active during the Florida recounts. A former neighbor, Barbara Cromer, said "Every morning, I would see her run while I walked. We'd wave to each other as we passed. I loved Lori so much. She was wonderful. She was a kind, generous person, so sweet.

Then, on Friday, July 20th, the body of Lori Klausutis, 28, was found slumped next to a desk on the floor of Florida Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough's Fort Walton Beach office where Lori had served as a constituent services coordinator since May, 1999. Her body was found around 8:00 a.m. on Friday morning by a couple arriving for an appointment. She had been dead for some time. A second employee, who would have normally arrived for work at around the same time, was away on vacation. Police cordoned off the area for investigation, later announcing that there was no reason to suspect foul play, nor were there signs of suicide.

Scarborough's office released a statement several hours after the discovery:

"My staff and family are greatly saddened by the loss of Lori Klausutis. I know Lori will be missed by the thousands of citizens who regularly contact my office to seek assistance with a variety of problems. May God grant Lori's family the grace, comfort and hope that will get them through this difficult time."

The Congressman returned to Florida that same day, and his office was quick to point out that it was not unusual for him to fly home for the weekend.

There was a great deal of ambiguity over whether Lori had suffered past medical problems. Scarborough's press secretary, Miguel Serrano, made mention of health problems in Lori's past, but could not be more specific. In response, Fort Walton Beach Police Chief Steve Hogue is quoted as saying "That's part of our investigation, checking into her medical history." Associate Medical Examiner Dr. Michael Berkland said "She had a past medical history that was significant, but it remains to be seen whether that played a role in her death". Soon after a member of the immediate family rejected out of hand that Lori had any significant medical problems. She was, in fact, quite an athlete, having recently run an 8K with a very respectable time and she belonged to the Northwest Florida Track Club.

The results of the mandated autopsy, however, were deemed "inconclusive" by Dr. Berkland, who ordered more specific toxicology tests. These results were expected by the middle of the following week, around the first or second day of August. Dr. Berkland commented at the time "This turns over several puzzle pieces in the case of her death and reveals more of the picture".

Welcome to the Wheel of Fortune.

Michael Berkland, it turns out, has a very interesting background himself. Recently relocated to Florida, it is a matter of public record that Dr. Berkland's medical license in the state of Missouri was revoked in 1998 as a result of Berkland reporting false information regarding brain tissue samples in a 1996 autopsy report. Berkland does not deny the charges.

It's also a matter of public record that he was suspended from his position as Medical Examiner in the State of Florida in July, 1999.

Quincy, he's not.

Repeated requests to Dr. Stephen Nelson, Chairman of the Medical Examiners Commission, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, have failed to verify that Dr. Berkland's suspension was lifted and that his licensure and disciplinary record are clear at the present time. Dr. Nelson was appointed Chairman of the Commission by Governor Jeb Bush.

As for Lori Klausutis, rumors began to swirl as time passed with no resolution to the case, rumors that included whispers of suicide, some emanating from inside the Beltway. Family members, angered at what they considered unfair and exploitive coverage wrote the editor of the Northwest Florida Daily News, Ralph Routon, saying "For those who knew Lori, the thought of suicide, as your published reports suggested, is absolutely unthinkable. Suicide was contrary to her faith and being. She did not suffer from seizures, nor did she have a history of medical problems." Meanwhile, the final report has been issued that Lori died as a result of a blow to the head because an undiagnosed heart condition caused her to collapse and fall, hitting her head on the desk.

The initial reports from the Medical Examiner's office denied any trauma to the body that would indicate cause of death. But Berkland acknowledged on Monday, August 6th, that Lori had sustained a "scratch and a bruise" on her head and that his original denials were to prevent undue speculation about the cause of death. "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury", he said.

And so, what we have here is the death of a healthy young woman who died of a blow to the head and a lie from the Medical Director's office about this blow which was quite obvious to the naked eye. They then had to go search for some reason why she might have "fallen" and hit her head. And they have found an "undiagnosed cardiac arrhythmia". But a number of questions remain to be answered, and we have requested opinions from Dr. Nelson, the Chairman of the Medical Examiners Commission.

The questions are:

- Were Lori's medical records thoroughly examined for any evidence of the pre-existing heart condition? It would seem that someone must have examined her heart if she ran 8Ks.

- Did Dr. Berkland personally examine the site of death in undisturbed condition in order to support his later conclusion that the physical evidence was compatible with his later conclusions?

Presumably the heart valve condition alluded to is Mitral Valve Prolapse. This may be associated with arrhythmias, but rarely with VTach (ventricular tachycardia) or VFib (ventricular fibrillation), the only arrhythmias which would stop the flow of blood to the brain.

Generally, with syncope of whatever cause the "guarding reflex", wherein one raises a hand to protect the head, is preserved.

There are several problems with the head injury. Generally, for a closed head injury to cause bleeding inside the skull, there is a much more severe injury on the outside of the skull. Do the autopsy notes, indeed, describe such a severe injury on the outside of the skull? In fact, the only closed head injury which usually may cause bleeding inside the skull involves a fracture of the temporal bone, with rupture of the underlying artery. The most important discrepancy that should be answered is how intracranial bleeding could continue if the cardiac arrhythmia had caused a cessation of blood flow to the brain!

- Were the toxicology studies entirely negative? Was there evidence of any legal or illegal substance in the blood stream which could have caused her to lose consciousness?

- Was she pregnant? If so, were fetal blood specimens obtained to determine paternity?

These are the questions being asked by some in the medical community of Dr. Stephen Nelson and Dr. Michael Berkland, and they continue to go unanswered.

Why is there a complete media blackout on this story? Why the complete preoccupation with the similar but largely speculative Condit/Levy story? What does this say about the state of our press? What does corporate ownership of the press do to what gets to be news? How much of what we think we know as fact is actually based on selective and distorted reporting? How does that "fair and balanced" cable network explain the complete hypocrisy and contempt for truth in their handling of these two similar tales? Will we ever know the truth of how Lori Klausutis died?

A recent check of the Young Republican's web site found no mention of Lori or her contributions, nor any tribute to her memory nor comments about her passing. In fact, you will find no mention of her at all. If you go to The Pensacola News Journal's online pages, one of the few papers that actually covered the story, and search the site for "Klausutis" you will come up empty, even though the same search will pull up numerous stories matching "Scarborough". It seems as though someone wants to erase all traces of Lori Klausutis from the record and bury the story with her.

It's an increasingly puzzling case. We are reminded of the famous Kitty Genovese case, in New York, in 1964, where a young woman pleaded for her life over the period of 30 minutes, while neighbors ignored her cries. The assailant returned three times to stab her. With Lori Klausutis, it seems possible that a corrupt North Florida establishment is determined to keep the lid on the case, even if that means silencing the news. And our esteemed news media, from the supposed mainstream liberal press stalwarts to the near delusional on air shouters of the channel that just reports so that you can decide, willingly turn the other way and ignore Lori Klausutis. But they continue to chatter endlessly in speculation over Chandra Levy. In so doing, they ignore the cries of truth, they deny their viewers access to the truth and they utterly, once and for all, betray our faith and trust in the media.

This report was made possible by devoted citizens who are determined to bring Lori's story to the light of day. Their contributions in research and insight are more appreciated than we can say. Thank you from both of us to each and every one of you.

Three Pivotal Questions
by the Editors

September 1, 2001 (APJP) -- Over at The American Prospect's message board thread concerning this very article, Phoenix Woman has asked a trolling Scarborough "defender" three pivotal questions. We'd love to know the answers ourselves:

1) If Lori's death was just a simple accident, then why did Rep. Scarborough and his spokesman Miguel Serrano feel the need to go to two different local TV stations within three hours of her body's being found and invent a nonexistent history of chronic medical conditions for
her -- in other words, why did they feel the need to lie about Lori's health?

2) Would you trust without question the word of a Medical Examiner who lost his ME license in two separate states (Missouri and Florida) because he LIED about his autopsy work (for instance, saying he had autopsied some brains when he hadn't)?

3) Why should whoever wrote Ms. Klausutis's obituary feel it was appropriate to mention nearly everything about her life -- EXCEPT where she'd been working since 1999?

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Letter To MSNBC

These are the people you have working for your "news" organization? Any journalist that would call for violence and secret prisons for Americans exercising their rights to freedom of speech has no business speaking for a civilized free society. I can never again trust anything I hear on MSNBC. Americans have a right to a free press. This is no different than Nazi era propaganda. The fact remains that there are unanswered questions regarding the events of 9-11. The government has never fully divulged what happened at the Pentagon and cannot explain scientifically without a doubt why the hell building 7 collapsed into itself or even how the twin towers themselves could explode into ashes in less than 2 hours.
We are not all stupid in this country no matter how media organizations such as yours might try to make us out to be. I look forward to the day that news organizations will be held responsible for misleading and lying to the American public. The truth will come out and America will be stronger and more resiliant. And I hope they will fight against tyrannical politicians and corporations so that our country can survive and live in peace with the rest of the world instead of trying to destroy it and ourselves in the process.

This is absolutely

This is absolutely disgusting.

Justin A. Martell

In a soldier's stance, I aimed my hand at the mongrel dogs who teach! Fearing not that I'd become my enemy in the instant that I preach! My pathway led by confusion boats...mutiny from stern t

also phone

NBC/MSNBC switchboard

212-664-4444 (9 am - 5 pm EST)

and fax




They are getting extremely desperate as the dam begins to burst. Let's call and e-mail anyone willing to pick up on this. I think we might have some success with international news sources. Let the pressure come from all sides.

I'm optimistic

As others have said, I also can't help but be optimistic and feel that they wouldn't be this desperate unless we were having a very significant effect. First they ignore you, then they... well you know the rest.
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For what it's worth . . . I

For what it's worth . . .

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Re the "Joe Scarborough Fascist Hour"

Thanks to 9/11 Blogger for getting the word out. I contacted all
the names, email addresses, phone numbers and Faxes.

This is the basic message I sent to them all.
I sent the following letter to Steve Capus,
the President of NBC News:

Dear Mr. Capus- I sent the message below to Joe Scarborough. I hope an
on air apology will be forth coming. (If you are not in sympathy with the
young demonstrator's opinions I suggest you visit the website of the
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth,, and learn why the
official 9/11 story which MSNBC backs is bogus.)

"A reporter on the Joe Scarborough MSNBC show reported on a 9/11 Truther
who yelled at Bill Clinton regarding 9/11. The reporter said he hoped he was
being "taken away to one of those special prisons in Europe and would never
be heard from again."

I am a 9/11 Truther but even if I were not I would be aghast that something
like that could be said on MSNBC. I was under the impression that this was
a free country where people are not put into dungeons for their opinions.

Will MSNBC air an apology from that young reporter with an amen from
Joe Scarborough?

Zan Overall


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