You Speak For Them, Because They Can't

Over the years, I have tried my best to voice my opinion, when I thought it was necessary, in the hopes of helping this movement "improve" its message. I have voiced my opinion, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times.

One thing I have learned over these many years, is that I can't control what other people do. I can only control what I do. I have also learned that "policing" what other people do, is time consuming, and arrogant. No one is perfect. If you do your absolute best, that's good enough for me, and should be good enough for everyone else. In my opinion.

That being said, with regard to doing your best, I want you to think on this. The people that were murdered on 9/11 no longer have a voice. They don't have the ability to ask for truth and accountability with regard to what happened to them. When you speak, you speak for everyone that was murdered on 9/11. As well as for their families.

Please do your very best. No one can ask for more than that.

So true

This is so true. In fact, I used this very idea to gather up courage. I work with some large truth movement organizations in which some of the things we have to do requires one to stick their neck out. I was a bit nerved up, but all I needed to do was think of those people in those buildings and what they suffered and I suddenly had all the motivation I needed. I speak because they can't. I think it'll be my mantra.

Yes, of course we speak for

Yes, of course we speak for them, as far as asking for (demanding) justice - truth and accountibility - but we also speak for our country and the world when we realize that 9/11 was just a small slice of the entire rotten apple, as we all learn . . .

As one of the character's in the Reflecting Pool says (the father whose daughter was killed), his journey began as a quest for justice - truth and accountibility for his daughter, but then it became something larger; it was no longer just about his daughter . . . .

I'm not asking people...

To limit what they talk about. I'm asking them to think about who it is they're representing when they speak, write articles, make movies, etc... etc... and to do their best. Hopefully, that will be enough "incentive" for people to be the best that they can be. I'm too tired to concern myself with what everyone else is saying. This will probably be my last "opinion" on the subject. All I can do is compare myself to myself, and my best.

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

I don't post or comment

I don't post or comment often, but I have followed the 9/11 truth movement for some time, at least 2005, and have spoken about it to many people, with varying success. I don't know exactly what happened on that fateful day, but I know what did not. And I know a new, honest, investigation is more than desirable, it is a necessary thing for all the world to witness.

I, for one, believe that you, Mr. Jon Gold, have absolutely stood up to that bar in a highly admirable way. I live in New Jersey and was in shock when 9/11 happened and snuffed out the lives of 3000+ people, made countless more suffer from exposure to toxic dust by virtue of their heroism in responding to the tragedy, or simply by living or working near ground zero. Still more will suffer for the rest of their lives as family members of the victims. Every time I travel to or near New York city I get very emotional seeing the empty spot in the skyline, and knowing what was allowed and/or facilitated by those who are supposed to be trusted to uphold the values of America, our government. I, like many, have come to see that the truth about the world we live in is much larger and more complicated than the 9/11 operation. However, 9/11, having affected all Americans, is a big part of 'waking up' the masses. I didn't know anyone who lost their life. A good friend of mine lost her brother, a NYPD officer, on that day. But I never forget those who were lost and those who suffer, and I applaud and salute you for keeping them in the forefront of your mind, and the subject of much of your posts and activism. We all lost something on September 11, but many lost everything. That should never be forgotten.

Thank you.

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Inspiring to me.

I like when people talk about the mental emotional aspect of the 9/11 Truth Movement. It's a big part of it that often gets overlooked.

The emotional/ spiritual aspect is where the energy comes from

(positive and negative, btw) and this is what keeps the movement moving forward (sometimes in circles, too).

We definitely need to talk about it more often and more deeply, we are all human beings, after all.

Love is a verb, brothers and sisters, let's get busy!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Keep speaking the truth

You should be proud of yourself.

Mark in Philly

Good post. I agree. I notice

Good post. I agree. I notice in myself sometimes the very raw emotion at the core of much of what I do for 9/11--sympathy for and a desire to speak and act for the victims who can no longer do so themselves. I am emboldened by those feelings as I know that I would want someone to do the same for me if I were in their position. To be extreme, if I had been forced to jump to my death from one of the Towers, I would want people to see and feel what happened to me, and if that meant creating art or reproducing photos of me jumping, I would favor it.

That's just my point of view and I can respect a different take on the matter, but those thoughts, feelings, and images are still very raw and powerful for me to this day and I believe they always will be.

JFK on secrecy and the press

I wonder...

Which two cowards voted this down with a "1", and don't have the nerve to tell us why.

I wish we had the ability to see who votes on what. Otherwise, the "voting technology" should be taken away because it's used for nothing more than spite.

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Oops...One of those cowards is glad he can change his vote

Total brain fart. Didn't mean to vote you down like that. Mental note: Remember which way is up.

I've also been really frustrated by people voting down threads and posts without offering any explanation. It seems that people often vote out of support for a person, organization, or strategy without carefully reading what the person has said or taking a moment to respond.

There are two parts to what you have expressed and I have different feelings about each.

First you point to many recommendations you have made while suggesting that others 'police' the movement. What is this policing and how is it different than making recommendations? I think the distinction is important to clarifying your point.

Are you suggesting that doing one's best should make you immune to critique? I doubt that's your intent as it denies the importance of our all learning from those with greater experience. Some of us have more experience and insight into 9/11 truth, while we all have experience that can benefit others. That experience and insight is an important asset to the movement, helping those with less experience or information to improve their approach.

Of course, no one is on top. Every one of us has something to learn from someone else. We all must maintain an educational attitude about the movement. We are all learning and teaching. And teaching is certainly not policing unless the student does not appreciate the experience or intent of the teacher.

Second, you suggest that we should all remember who we speak for when representing the movement. I very much agree, but would expand beyond what you have said. When we speak about 9/11 truth we not only represent the victims and families, we also represent one another. This is an important reason why we should avoid overly partisan representations of the movement. This isn't a liberal or conservative movement. Its a movement about searching for the facts. And facts aren't partisan.

We are all victims of the attack. And as you indicate, when we talk about 9/11 we need to keep in mind that our mission is a lot bigger than our own take on the world. In the same way that we respect the right of others to have their opinion as we want them to respect ours, we also have to keep in mind that no one strategy or ideology has a monopoly over the truth. This is not the Alex Jones, or Loose Change, or, or Michael Ruppert, or David Ray Griffin, etc... movement.

This is our movement. Each of us. And respecting the public relevance of this movement means respecting the diversity of those participating by representing that diversity as we represent the movement. Disagreement is natural and should result in logical debate and not any policing of the movement.

Anyway, good post Jon. I always like more detail, as it makes it easier to avoid an ambiguous reading. But knowing you, I know that what you are saying here is meant to unify.

No one is immune to critique.

And I have done my fair share of "policing" the movement. As I said, however, I can't control what other people do. I can only compare myself to myself, and hope that each thing I do is better than the last. However, this isn't rocket science. We represent everyone that was murdered on that day. We should promote the best information possible. Preferably that which helps our cause, as opposed to hurting it. I agree that we represent each other as well. However, that point has been made several 1000x, and has never seemed to make an impact. This one hasn't. To my knowledge. Hopefully it will.

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Dammit ..

This was getting good and then you go say a stupid thing like that, why ?
Apply what you just said to voting in general.. get my point ?
"Listen carefully now : DO NOT DESTROY OIL-WELLS" Dubya

Thanks for All You Do, Jon

I don't see how you get from "inability to control" to what seems to be "shut up and bite your lip when you see somebody screwing up."

Unfortunately, some of us are more interested in self-promotion and personal attention-seeking than in the health and progress of the movement, or even in truth. If they don't know when they're screwing up, we need to tell them. Mad dogs make all dogs look bad.

What about crazy cats in purple shoes?


***big goofy grin***

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Short people

... got no reason to live. (Randy Newman)

If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.


Turf wars in LA recently are sooo stooopid. Note to self: Zip it Randy. Good post Jon.

If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.