Breaking: Jesse Ventura Exposes the Official Lie on Howard Stern

digg_url = ''; Jesse Ventura is currently on Howard Stern and is blasting the official story out of the water. This replays all day long, plus all weekend, catch it if you can.

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Also, listen to Jason Bermas and Alex Jones discuss Jesse Ventura's appearance on Howard Stern's radio program. They listen to the clip and comment:

Great news! I just hope he

Great news! I just hope he can restore 9/11 Truth’s credibility after the Paula Gloria “KookFest 08” smear job, this was SO frustrating:

Paula Gloria on The Howard Stern Show 1/5

The Howard Stern Wrap Up Show - Paula Gloria 1/4

I wonder who really paid "Paula" 5 Million Dollars, was that Cointelpro money or something?


got a chance to hear this . After Jesse left, it really pissed me off to hear Fred talk out his a**. Come on guys! Grow the hell up ! It's fine to joke around about common sh*t, but after hearing the responces to Jesse's comments one can tell why getting the truth out is so difficult.
P.S. Could Howard be that stupid not to look into 9/11? Could he be even more stupid not to question it?


This makes Jesse Ventura into the biggest 9-11 Truth Hero of the year so far!

This is freakin' HUUUUUUUGE!!!


With you in the struggle,

I would disagree with that assessment...

Betsy Metz has kicked ASS this year. From the perspective of time, commitment, money spent, etc... she has kicked ASS. I wish we had 1,000,000 Betsy's.

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

You are too much, Jon - in a

You are too much, Jon - in a good way . . . . You are very kind, but my efforts don't come close to many (most) in this 9/11 truth business . . .

Now, THIS, JV on Howard Stern is BIG!

In the end what counts is the exposure magnitude, not that that negates other less exposed efforts . . .

"The times they are a changin' . . . " do you feel it?! JV on Stern makes me feel it! His former SEAL status brings huge credibility . . . .


They far surpass MANY in this movement (except for that Jon Gold guy, but who could possibly keep up with him?)... but... that's an opinion for another day.

Edit: Is this getting voted down because people can't take a joke?

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Howard Stern

is a low life scum.Why the fuck any sane person would appear on his show is beyond me.Ventura did the right thing when asshole sttern asked him how old he was when he first got laid!,,only a retard would ask such a question.

I hope Jesse...

Sets the record straight that insane provocateurs that have NEVER done anything to help this movement should be ignored, and NEVER taken seriously.,hentoff,31489,6.html

"Ashcroft has revived the FBI's totally discredited COINTELPRO program, which flourished from 1956 to 1971, during the anti-war and civil rights movements."

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

I could understand your

(whoops, meant to post this under drunhorse's comment) I could understand your reaction to Stern, but I try to focus on the good this interview can achieve if you wanna talk about his mentally lame sidekicks who swallowed the Bush pill hook line and sinker, with their asshole commentary afterwards.....


"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

If frogs had wings....

If Bush Sr. had withdrawn, everything'd be different.


"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Can someone snag the show?

I don't feel like subscribing just for that.

Subscribing to Sirius is SO

Subscribing to Sirius is SO worth it - not just for this amazing interview with JV, but for listening to all (okay, most) of the hosts on channel 146 Left Talk . . . at least two (Mike Malloy and Lynn Samuels) are 100% 9/11 Truth advocates . . . .

Sirius's channel 146 has been a lot cheaper than therapy these last three years for me at least . . . . : )

Can we........

get an audio post on this ? Way to go Jesse ! You're one DAMN FINE AMERICAN !


Perhaps Jesse becomes the next Attorney General in the next Obama Adminastration, now that would rock!

"the next Obama

"the next Obama Adminastration" - You say that as if Obama is not just another establishment puppet?

Obama Is A Manufactured Elitist Safety Valve

The elites apparently manufactured the charismatic, 'cult of personality' and phony 'outsider' Obama because they likely sensed that America is fed up with the status quo and are ready to turn to a Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul. It also seems that CFR member Bloomberg's whispered independent presidential run only seemed to get shelved when Ron Paul advised he wouldn't run as an independent.

Obama's advisor is Zbigniew Brzezenski.

And Zbigniew Brzezenski is a close associate of David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger and other corrupt 'insiders'.

Obama's wife is a member of what only recently was referred to as a Chicago wing of the Council on Foreign Relations:


Obama wouldn't be where he is unless the establishment wanted him there.

Right, one must have endorsements by NWO/globalists like

the Bilderberg Group & Council on Foreign Relations to be a frontrunner for president of this country! (Obama needs to be totally "vetted" among many other things before I would trust him.)

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You mean "Grand Chessboard"

You mean "Grand Chessboard" Brzezinski?

"...The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a
tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a
non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of
Eurasian power relations but also as the world's paramount
power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the
final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere
power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first
truly global power... (p. xiii)

"... But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian
challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus
of also challenging America. The formulation of a
comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is
therefore the purpose of this book. (p. xiv)

"The attitude of the American public toward the external
projection of American power has been much more ambivalent.
The public supported America's engagement in World War II
largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack
on Pearl Harbor. (pp 24-5)

"For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... Now
a non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia - and
America's global primacy is directly dependent on how long
and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian
continent is sustained. (p.30)

"America's withdrawal from the world or because of the
sudden emergence of a successful rival - would produce
massive international instability. It would prompt global
anarchy." (p. 30)

"In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is critical.
Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and is
geopolitically axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would
control two of the world's three most advanced and
economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map
also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost
automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the
Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to
the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the
world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's
physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises
and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of
the world's GNP and about three-fourths of the world's known
energy resources." (p.31)

It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to
be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's
power, especially its capacity for military intimidation.
Never before has a populist democracy attained international
supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that
commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden
threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-
being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending)
and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional
soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to
democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial
mobilization." (p.35)

"Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the
geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power
to cause a potentially important shift in the international
distribution of power and to decipher the central external
goals of their respective political elites and the likely
consequences of their seeking to attain them;... second, to
formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or
control the above..." (p. 40)

"...To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more
brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives
of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and
maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep
tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians
from coming together." (p.40)

"Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to
cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out
of Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global
power." (p.55)

"Uzbekistan, nationally the most vital and the most populous
of the central Asian states, represents the major obstacle
to any renewed Russian control over the region. Its
independence is critical to the survival of the other
Central Asian states, and it is the least vulnerable to
Russian pressures." (p. 121)

Referring to an area he calls the "Eurasian Balkans" and a
1997 map in which he has circled the exact location of the
current conflict - describing it as the central region of
pending conflict for world dominance - Brzezinski
writes: "Moreover, they [the Central Asian Republics] are of
importance from the standpoint of security and historical
ambitions to at least three of their most immediate and more
powerful neighbors, namely Russia, Turkey and Iran, with
China also signaling an increasing political interest in the
region. But the Eurasian Balkans are infinitely more
important as a potential economic prize: an enormous
concentration of natural gas and oil reserves is located in
the region, in addition to important minerals, including
gold." (p.124) [Emphasis added]

"The world's energy consumption is bound to vastly increase
over the next two or three decades. Estimates by the U.S.
Department of energy anticipate that world demand will rise
by more than 50 percent between 1993 and 2015, with the most
significant increase in consumption occurring in the Far
East. The momentum of Asia's economic development is already
generating massive pressures for the exploration and
exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian
region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain
reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait,
the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea." (p.125)

"Uzbekistan is, in fact, the prime candidate for regional
leadership in Central Asia." (p.130)

"Once pipelines to the area have been developed,
Turkmenistan's truly vast natural gas reserves augur a
prosperous future for the country's people. (p.132)

"In fact, an Islamic revival - already abetted from the
outside not only by Iran but also by Saudi Arabia - is
likely to become the mobilizing impulse for the increasingly
pervasive new nationalisms, determined to oppose any
reintegration under Russian - and hence infidel - control."
(p. 133).

"For Pakistan, the primary interest is to gain Geostrategic
depth through political influence in Afghanistan - and to
deny to Iran the exercise of such influence in Afghanistan
and Tajikistan - and to benefit eventually from any pipeline
construction linking Central Asia with the Arabian Sea."

"Turkmenistan... has been actively exploring the
construction of a new pipeline through Afghanistan and
Pakistan to the Arabian Sea..." (p.145)

"It follows that America's primary interest is to help
ensure that no single power comes to control this
geopolitical space and that the global community has
unhindered financial and economic access to it." (p148)

"China's growing economic presence in the region and its
political stake in the area's independence are also
congruent with America's interests." (p.149)

"America is now the only global superpower, and Eurasia is
the globe's central arena. Hence, what happens to the
distribution of power on the Eurasian continent will be of
decisive importance to America's global primacy and to
America's historical legacy." (p.194)

"Without sustained and directed American involvement, before
long the forces of global disorder could come to dominate
the world scene. And the possibility of such a fragmentation
is inherent in the geopolitical tensions not only of today's
Eurasia but of the world more generally." (p.194)

"With warning signs on the horizon across Europe and Asia,
any successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as a
whole and be guided by a Geostrategic design." (p.197)

"That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order
to prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could
eventually seek to challenge America's primacy..." (p. 198)

"The most immediate task is to make certain that no state or
combination of states gains the capacity to expel the United
States from Eurasia or even to diminish significantly its
decisive arbitration role." (p. 198)

"In the long run, global politics are bound to become
increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic
power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not
only the first, as well as the only, truly global
superpower, but it is also likely to be the very last."

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural
society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a
consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the
circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct
external threat." (p. 211)

Great minds ... think for themselves.



Are you voting down the

Are you voting down the "cliffs' notes" of this book by Brzezinski because it's too long???

Have you even READ it?

Great minds ... think for themselves.

You really have to be kidding

Do you really think if there is not a stolen election and martial law, that an elected Obama will stand for 9/11 truth? Obama can stuff his HOPE and CHANGE, he's a shill like the rest and he's full of shit.

Sit, be still, and listen
Because you are drunk --
And we are at
the edge of the roof.



Who would have thunk JFK was going to dismantle the CIA and bypass the Federal Reserve??? But he attempted to do that. So to say you know this or that about Obama seems a little over predictive of the future I think.

The Howard Stern show is

The Howard Stern show is disgusting degenerate garbage, a lot of like “Opie and Anthony”. Makes me sick.


...but lots of Americans are listening to JV on Howard right now, and we should be happy about that.

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government." -The Declaration of Independence

I like the timing of this, right before

memorial day weekend where lot's of people are getting together. Like it or not the Howard Stern show
has a huge following & is entrenched in the minds of many NE males..

So the people who down voted

So the people who down voted that post are all for debased trash that spews out a lexicon of words like "cock" and "cunt" every two seconds? I've used swear words like most people, so I'm not going to be on some high horse but that type of stuff is really part of the effort to debase and animalise culture down to a point where the people living 100 years ago were more advanced morally than today. Personally I find bestial garbage a bit repulsive but hey.

DBLS.... need I remind you


need I remind you what happens when you go against the grain? ;)

Great minds ... think for themselves.

Lowlife guttersnipe.

True about Stern rooting in the gutters of humanity. Unfortunately, appealing to the lowest common denominator of human intellect sells, pure and simple. The only comment for which i give him credit. was "If you don't like it, change the station."
That's what I do.

On another note, was I the only one who received an email about the pending Paula Gloria appearance?
I emailed the Stern show with the following plea May 18th;

I understand Howard will be interviewing people who claim to represent the International 9/11 Truth and Justice movement.
I confess to knowing little about the credibility of the guests but I beg you to please consider the research and work of Richard Gage and the "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth" here;
There are also the following credible organizations.
Please don't be misled by speculative theories when there are so many serious and credible researchers who are compliing solid evidence in an effort to DISCOVER the truth.
Thank You.

I Agree

"That type of stuff is really part of the effort to debase and animalise culture"

I do not think this type of material winds up broadcast by accident. Tuned into the 'E' Channel lately?

I think that our elitist "zoo-keepers" prefer we be dumbed down and highly reactive pawns who spend our time chasing our tails, when not busy paying our taxes, high interest financing fee's and signing up for wars of conquest in the aftermaths of false-flag psy-ops.

classic redirection

its always the same folks . . . the thread isn't about Howard Stern

I voted you up.

I think the voting on this sight is down right silly. You made an excellent point: Howard Stern is vulgar. Period. That doesn't mean that we can't think he's a slimebag but still be happy that 911 truth is getting some credible airtime. Although, how far did the Hustler artcicle get us?

I like the, "blasting the official story out of the water"

remark, because Jesse was indeed an underwater explosives expert in the U.S. Navy Seals!

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The interview was excellent. Jesse was well received.

This was fantastic. Jesse Ventura came across as the intelligent, rational, courageous man that he is. Howard was surprisingly receptive. Fred was holding on to the official story, but he didn't have any impact on the credibility of Jesse's revelations. It was a virtual love fest overall. They all liked Jesse. Howard invited Jesse to come to New York and do the next interview in person rather than on the phone.

Like it our not, Howard has an intelligent, influential audience.

Thank you Jesse Ventura!

"intelligent, influential

"intelligent, influential audience" - What, base level gutter brained morons? I'm sorry but the stuff I heard in that Paula Gloria "interview" alone was plain sick. The callers were the worst, I think Paula is a completely loony disinfo quack but some of the foul stuff she was subjected to was abhorrent, go listen to the interview because one of the callers in particular sounded like a rapist who said "I'll rip your c*unt" - to which "Howard" and all the other degenerates laugh. I think it's sick, plain sick and I'm surprised such gutter trash is even allowed on the air, utterly disgusting.

Audience estimated at over 1,000,000 people.

Howard Stern rules satellite radio ~ May 7th, 2008

"According to an Arbitron report on satellite listening from October to December of last year, the number of people who listen to Stern at some point during the week is 1.21 million."

We need to bombard

Howard with the facts. Hopefully he will see the obvious. Send him e mails!

Howard will probably pick this up

as soon as he pisses some executives off, then it will be non-stop 9/11 truth.


Howard Stern could be a real asset to the movement.

Howard Stern is known as a rule breaker. He doesn't kowtow to what is politically correct. He is a Maverick in his industry. He strips away the propriety and the assumed "respect for respects sake" paradigm. In this spirit, he is like members of the movement. We also want to break down the conventional paradigm of "trusting your government and their official story". He would see through the cries of "Blasphemers" or "Terrorists Sympathizers" that usually emerge when someone expresses belief that the official story is bogus. He has revolutionized radio by breaking the rules. He is a visionary. If he were convinced that 911 was an inside job, I don't think he would keep it a secret. I don't think he would agree not to talk about it to keep his job. He thrives on bucking the system when it is obviously wrong. He thrives on exposing the hypocrisies that abound in our society. Sure, he uses profanity and pushes the envelope as far as he can. But, he is known to be intelligent. His opinion has a great deal of influence on a great number of individuals. I think he could really help the cause.

Contact form on

I was a listener of Howard for a few years before 911, his coverage that day was pretty riveting - a classic show of his.

Unfortunately, today's interview really did seem overly predetermined - Robin, Bababooey and Fred all jumping in very dismissively - constant referral back to prostitutes and steroid use.

When he brings in Alex Jones, DRG or Sibel Edmonds - that's when I'll tune back into Howard.

sent mine

send emails. he has a contact form on his site

or mail

I've been bombarding Stern

I've been bombarding Stern for years!! In fact, I have routinely sent in requests asking them (Robin specifically) to cover certain news items, and I like to think (though I have no way of knowing for sure) that I was responsible for Robin mentioning Charlie Sheen when he first came out...

I believe it.

You gotta believe it or else we wouldn't be doing what we're doing. Every little bit helps. It's like chipping away at ice.

please rehost!

Can someone please re-host the interview as it has reached it's download limit here. Thanks!

if someone will post it and send me the link

i can do this quickly



Howard Stern Radio Show - 05-21-08

* Riddle Me This. 05/21/08. 6:00am
* Greg Fitzsimmons Show Clips And Sal's Comedy Discussed. 05/21/08. 6:05am
* Ted Kennedy Cancer Discussions. 05/21/08. 6:30am
* Artie's HBO Special. 05/21/08. 6:35am
* Eric The Midget Superstar Calls In. 05/21/08. 6:45am
* Sisters Willing To Do Anything To Meet Bon Jovi. 05/21/08. 7:20am
* Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura Calls In. 05/21/08. 7:50am
* Artie's Bodyguard JC Calls In. 05/21/08. 8:20am
* Howard Plays Some Audio Clips. 05/21/08. 8:40am
* Howard Stressed And Ready To Sue. 05/21/08. 8:55am
* Gary Coleman Divorce Audio Clips. 05/21/08. 9:00am
* Howard Planning A Law Suit? 05/21/08. 9:25am
* Howard 100 News, Wrap Up Show And Intern Show Previews. 05/21/08. 9:35am
* Robin's News. 05/21/08. 9:55am
* More Stern Show And Wrap Up Show Coverage Coming Later. 05/21/08.

96k nCF Morning Wood

24k CF + TWUS eos barebones

64k CF + TWUS cameltoe

As always thanks to the original rippers/editors!

All links mirrored at

Great minds ... think for themselves.

I don't believe we have hit

I don't believe we have hit any download limit at 911podcasts, however I do see that we appear to be under a denial of service attack which might be slowing things down a bit. I'll try to fix that.

I just blocked the IP

I just blocked the IP address that was attacking us, hopefully it will respond better.

May 20: Richard Gage & Ed Thompson Speak with Kevin Barrett

May 20: Richard Gage & Ed Thompson Speak with Kevin Barrett

Richard is on hour # 1

Ed is on hour # 2

Tue., May 20, 2008: Playlists: M3U | RAM (Individual MP3s: Hr1 Hr2 )

@5PM EST Files can be

@5PM EST ALL Files can be downloaded here:

NOTE: 01,02,03,etc.... will be available before 5PM... but ALL OF THEM won't be up until 5PM. Got it?

01 is ready as of 4:48EST

Great minds ... think for themselves.

Go Jesse Go!

All publicity is good for 911, Howard Stern capitalizes on a less informed audience and has never really done his homework on any serious subject except on how to capitalize on himself perhaps. So I don't hold out too much hope for Howard doing his homework on 911 or sticking his neck out for truth etc. But you never know, and strange things have happened. Truthfully I can't stand the guy or his show etc. I don't find him entertaining and I resent when someone can influence people and culture on a mass scale and impart absolutely no social value in the process. It seems like such a waste and distraction for society, but then again some people do find him entertaining and it's still a free country. With regard to the 911 truth movement let's hope some of the listeners began waking up and will keep the talk going in as many circles as possible!

With regards to Iran...

They did "reach out" to Bush a few times. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven times that I know of.

The U.S. supposedly "debated" the issue, and put stipulations on the talks, but did they ever have those talks? Nope. Always with the stipulations... It's like asking them to concede before the talks even take place. What country would do that?

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Larry King

Jesse Ventura is supposed to be on Larry King tonight. How great would it be if he crow barred the subject of 9/11 truth in to the interview?

Jesse Ventura Tonight!

Jesse Ventura! The politician who calls them like he sees them wrestles with the issues! As Obama nears the finish line, Ventura goes head-to-head with Larry's political panel, sounding off on the candidates, their campaigns and who knows what else?

TONIGHT, 9 p.m. ET

Thanks for the heads up

Opposite the American Idol Final - the death star of opposing TV -of course - I'll be watching Jesse


Ok. I don't really 'get' Howard Stern. I agree with many of the comments here.
His career on Canadian radio was fortunately very short.
However - Honor when honor's done as they say...
He had JV on and he let him talk.
(And he also did a good job of pretending to be surprised at what JV was saying. Best actor radio award ?)
Kudos to Howard. Rock on.
But this better just be the beginning

Larry King

is a shill of the first degree.

Many years ago I worked for the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey circus and witnessed first hand, many, many times, animal abuse; specifically the elephants and big cats.
Larry King was interviewing the shows' producer, Kenneth Feld and it was pretty much a Mom & Pop American as Apple Pie circus interview until I got through.
I confronted Feld head on, relaying to other listeners my experiences with the show. Feld coughed up some PR-speak bullshit about animal psychology studies showing that they actually preferred traveling with the show to being in the wild. UnF*kingBelievable.

Here's what one of those "happy" elephants did to the head trainer of the show I was with:

King cut me off as soon as he got the gist of what I was saying.

Right after that, other callers asked him why he cut me off. . . they wanted to hear more.

So, if Larry King allows Jesse Ventura to say more than a couple of sentences about 9/11 Truth it will shock the hell out of me.

Thank God

Thank God Jesse redeemed the truth movement after that Paula Gloria smear job. It is no coincidence that he was on just days after her. Fate is on our side.

Larry King Live.

Jesse is on Larry King Live right now and I missed the first half.
Anyone else catch it?
Edit. Never mind. I see someone already posted this info.

A smear at the end.

Jesse has gone solar! That says something for him.

Too bad they trashed him as hard as they did after he got off. They tried to smear him with the moon landing even. Sad. But that's what I'd expect from a sell-out like Howard Stern. Sick sick stuff. I hope he never goes on there again. Of course, someone has to, and anyone who does knows they are wading into a sewer, but he stood up for the strongest points. It was a great job. A real person, and knows what to say.

Agreed -

They went way out of their way to trash the governor as soon as he hung up. But I think that is pretty typical for Howard Stern and his ilk.

Was I the only one who experienced a lot of audio drop outs as Gov. Ventura was arguing his case for controlled demolition?

I have a very fast broadband connection and found it very odd that just as he was really getting into it I heard nothing but dead air. Maybe if I download it I will have better luck.

Gov. Ventura is extremely concerned about his native country and could become a real force for truth if he chooses to be. He's also ashamed of how all the WTC dust victims are being treated.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

They seem like a bunch of

They seem like a bunch of pseudo-sophisticates on the Stern show. As if they are too high-brow to believe in such nonsensical "conspiracy theories." Give me a break. Stern even asked if he was one of those people who don't believe Oswald killed Kennedy. Anyone who is still doubts that the Warren Commission lone shooter theory has been thoroughly refuted is out of touch with the truth. Same with the 9/11 false flag event. As far as "conspiracy theories" surrounding the JFK assassination and 9/11 go, Stern and his cohorts are nothing but a bunch of fatuous twits who only think they are real smart. Either that, or they are sell out shills parroting what their bosses tell them to say. Regrettably, I think the second possibility has a good chance of being the case.