Troy From West Virginia Harasses 9/11 Family Member Bob McIlvaine

Originally posted here.

I heard about this on the way up to New Hampshire. Apparently Troy even asked Bob to put a bullet in his head (notice how Troy conveniently left that out). Mrs. McIlvaine was very shaken up by this, and understandably so. Troy has a history of harassing members of this movement by crank calling them on the phone (and he recently harassed 9/11 First Responder John Feal by calling him at least 30x according to John), but this is the first time his efforts focused on a 9/11 family member.

Bob McIlvaine. One of the most soft spoken, sweetest people I know.

Listening to this video, having to edit this video... I can't describe how it makes me feel. Anger is not a strong enough word. Infuriating is not a strong enough word. Someone will have to invent a new word to describe this impossibly strong emotion that I'm feeling. When Michael Bloomberg said that James Zadroga wasn't a hero, the "anger/frustration" I felt then pales in comparison to this.

I am sure this will make other people "angry/infuriated" as well, and I'm sure that people will think about dealing with this violently. However, that is EXACTLY what "they" would want us to do. The MINUTE we are violent, they know EXACTLY how to deal with us. So, I'm asking that people take the "anger/infuriation" they feel from this, and use it in the most non-violent, positive way possible.

I know that certain people have already called the authorities on Troy. I hope they do their job. Even SLC, the one site that loves to post Troy's "work", admits that he "does seem to be getting a little close to the edge of harassment with his phone calls (Gee, ya think? His first crank call ever constituted harassment)."

I recorded this video so as to make sure a copy exists, and I posted it because it was already posted, and I wanted to address how best to deal with this in my opinion (non-violently, and positively).

I am so sorry the McIlvaine family had to deal with this. So very very sorry. Ask for my help Bob, and I will do everything in my power to do so.

Ignorant hillbilly

Troy. You ignorant pathetic f#cking hillbilly. You're no better than a Nazi thug trying to intimidate and silence critics of Hitler.

Troy:

Troy just called in to

Troy just called in to AJ’s show and started clucking like a chicken, the next caller was like “I don’t think Troy would be cracking too many jokes in a FEMA camp” and AJ was like “no he’ll be fine, he’d probably be the boss at one” – hahahaha, that’s so true.

I think it's time we pitched in and hired a private investigator

to get the information we need to shut this guy down permanently.

I've heard about this guy harassing people in the movement for years, but if he's now harassing Bob McIlvaine and John Feal we need to build a case against him and take him to court.

If he is a government employee, then this will further expose the level of harassment they are engaging in and could make some serious noise in the msm.

If he is "only" a disturbed private citizen, then we should be able to severely limit his ability to harass through the courts.

Since we already know where he lives, this should not be a difficult undertaking.

It's way past time to disconnect this jerk, brothers and sisters, let's pull together and take care of our peeps.

The truth shall set us free (some may need therapy).

Love is the only way forward.

I agree . . .

I agree . . .

good idea

And in theory I am willing to help.

What sort of info would that investigator eb digging for? Where Troy works? If he's got a record? I am just not 100% sure any of that is relevant.

I believe there is plenty of evidence already to take him to a civil court - or perhaps even press criminal charges. The only thing holding me back is concern that that may be amounting to censorship of sorts.

Boris Epstein

He called me here in Iowa...

....acting shy about wanting to learn more about 9/11 truth. I was already aware of this ass from Alex Jones so I promptly told him to fuck off and hung up on him.

Absolutely disgusting. Why

Absolutely disgusting.

Why doesn't Bob just hang up on him after two seconds? Just staying on the phone gave that POS more credit than he deserves.

He kept calling him back...

Again and again.


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

I would have blocked the

I would have blocked the phone number. Does this Troy guy have a reputation of calling from different phone numbers to harass someone if the person blocks his number?

And this goes to show the

And this goes to show the sinister nature of "debunkers" in general. It's taken SLC til May 2008 to acknowledge that Troy's behavior is getting a "little close" to harassment. No, SLC, his behavior WAS harassment, and two years ago. You folks had to wait til things went over the top before you even minimally distanced yourselves from your number one harasser pimp.

And the "show me your evidence" taunts are right out of JREF.

Agreed.Hang up

This is lunacy. I could stand talking to the crazy people downtown on the street all day - but I have better things to do.
Try and get a call return -report harassment - but hang up fast. Crazy people can keep you pretty busy.
Bob was probably overtired and bored. This is crap and doesn't need to be posted here. Couldn't even be bothered listening to the end.
(Oh - free fall collapse speed through undamaged steel structure is impossible. Quick and Easy. And don't get me started on the 'Dancing Israelis')

It doesn't...

NEED to be posted anywhere, and I WISH it never happened. But it did, and it was, and we are making people aware of it as responsibly as possible (as opposed to the "Video mashup" made by Nico).


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

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Did Bob want you you to post this Jon ?
You seem pretty close to him.
Did you check with him ?
If Bob okayed it - I'm all for it.

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What does Bob say about it ?
Did he want it posted ?

Bob said...

He's glad I posted it so the whole world can hear what Troy is like. Remembering now, I'm not the one that originally posted it. I'm just the one that recorded it so he can take it to the authorities.


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Good .It's painful to listen

Good .It's painful to listen to. The guy is a moron and Bob sure has a lot more tolerance than I would have.

...

"The interior core of the buildings was a hollow steel shaft" [...] "While they were doing so, the NorthTower began its pancake collapse, killing some of these men."


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

It's almost satisfying...

to see how truly ignorant the OCT people are. Troy is dead wrong as this quote from the 9/11 commission reveals and that is all the ammunition Bob and all of us need to know he is completely incapable of rational, informed opinion. Case Closed. Good Riddance Troy, shame on you.

P.S. and I hope Troy knows that he has crossed the line and if he crosses it again there will be serious consequences (and that is not a threat of violence it is a threat of action)

We must all listen to this to be able to react positively+peace

John A MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE

It is important that all the ciitizens in the 911 truth mouvement listen to this audio so that they know what they up against and learn to respond positively and peacefully to people like Troy. People all over the world are slowly waking up to the truth and it makes them feel bad.

I had someone like this on the local Herblay market like Troy and I told him to call the police if he finds what I was doing was so bad. Insteed of threatening me he should call the police. He was surprised by my reply and went away and I never saw him again. Hearing this audio make me feel stronger against people like Troy.

And this sort of "trash" will only wake up more people and bring them to the truth. As we get closer to the total oubreak of truth we can expect to have a lot more of people like Troy and they are going to have a hard time in accepting the horrible thought that they are being gouverned by an evil executive.

I have in the past asked french muslims how are they going to react when they wake up to the truth. Most often the reply is "But they know already that it was an inside job". Not a big story to them!

Howerver I think when the French in general find out the truth and that they have been fooded into the Afghanistan war, they risk to be angry.

Yours John

We need an honest FBI man

to go after "Troy".

Anybody know a man or women from the agency, worth their salt?

"An honest FBI guy." I

"An honest FBI guy."

I nominate Rex Tomb, since he was honest about no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11. ;-)

The Whispers of the Wise

speaking the Truth will be heard across the ALL the Shouts of Deceit.

I agree.

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Don't Give Him Further Incentive

This may only re-energize this disturbed individual and lead to escalation.

Document the threats and let law enforcement deal with this.

It's documented...

Above. He removed this video from his youtube account. I'm glad I recorded it. This harassment will not be tolerated. Bob should get a new, private number. That's for sure.


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Troy from West Virginia has been around for a while...

While Troy could simply be a nut, I lean towards an agent provocateur who has a goal to get a reaction. He's been around too long to dismiss him as a nut at this point?

Great Job, Jon copying this as proof of these acts.

...don't believe them!

No nut.

Mostly likely an operative pretending to be one, drawing us out to bait and switch.

Expect things to get dirtier but we must never to stoop to their tactics which just shows their desperation and perverse wickedness.

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There will be much more of this to come!

Do we have the resolve to win this fight?

Bob is a real threat to the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks, as he is, to the media untouchable. He is such an excellent ambassidor for the 9/11 Truth movement and it is terrible what happened here, but there will be much more of this to come!

WE MUST close ranks and consolidate our concensus position now. Some prominent people will be attacked and we must unite behind them in an organised manner.

Sites like 911truth.org, 911blogger.com and truthaction.org must join together now in a consesus view of what we stand for and what we do not, who represents us and who does not so that peole like Bob feel supported and protected.

Regards John

WE GOT TO TAKE THE POWER BACK!... rage against the machine!!

If I have anything to say about it...

People like Bob McIlvaine will ALWAYS have the support of this movement. ALWAYS... ALWAYS... ALWAYS... It's not up for discussion as far as I'm concerned. I'm not implying that you think it is... just voicing my opinion on that particular subject.

By the way, did anyone ever tell you that you look like an Oz version of me? :D


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

What a little toerag

Anyone still think ignoring this type of shite will make it go away?
Anyone still believe it isn't coordinated?
Then I got a bridge to sell yeh...

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Blame Complicit Infiltrated Media and

Left Gatekeepers, Cowardly Corrupt Politicians, War Profiteers, a Childish, Dumbed-down Populace,
Blame our Nation's Addictions, Our Willful Ignorance, The Barrage of Nationalistic Propaganda from Cradle to Grave.

TROY is SICK, but he is also a symptom of far greater PATHOLOGY. In a way Troy is a victim. His sickness is that his programming
really worked on his infantile mind.

I dream of a time when all of this is behind us.

The Law of Karma will make corrections.

BTW

Is Colleen Rowley a truther?

I agree but

like the crazies who blew up the abortions clinics and went around killing doctors Troy presents a real physical danger to people like Bob.

When you listen to the way he bullies and repeats his "piece of trash' comment you can almost physically feel the way in which he is agitating his own mind into a frenzy rather than trying to get at Bob. These are the sort of people who have a smouldering all pervasive hate inside themselves and it only takes two or so of them to get together to form vigilante groups.

The corporate media fans the flame of the hatred these people carry inside themselves.
It is not for nothing that Gandhi said: First they ignore you then they ridicule you then they fight you and then you win.
With the growth of 911 awareness there will be more pressure to shut us up in order to keep the truth from coming out.

Take care of yourselves over there, and keep an eye on the activities of Mr. troy. Get local Truthers to keep an eye out for him if he is a known entity.

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I suspect this is an "Operative"

Lets not take the bait.

They KNOW who and where we are.

All they can with ALL THE FACTIONAL INFIGHTING within right now is to make cheap threats.

We must stay strong and prepared. I expect an escalation more ANTI-911 TRUTH activity from a number sources as they reach their endgame. Their Fear and Intimidation, Distraction And Tactics ARE NOT GOING TO WORK.

Let's stay calm but prepared.

It is vital to redouble our efforts and highlight these threats especially aimed at VOCAL Family Members.

There have been probably others made more subtly and silently targeted at some other Family Members, Journalists to get silence of some sort.

This is going to BlowBack big time on them just like 911 itself.

Michael Bloomberg, "Troy", the trojan horses - following orders.

Yes, be angry but stay focused, the Eye of the Storm. Calmer and more effective.

We have to bring to Justice the Masters of Terror, not just servants. We are dealing with mass murderers with the complicit murder of potentially 70 thousand people. And a few million in Iraq, Afghanistan and more planned.

A Reminder once again how Serious and Important our Cause is.

Time to ReDouble.

Happy Memorial Day.

We must remember what it means and stands for.
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We're with you, Bob! This

We're with you, Bob! This makes my blood boil and there are a lot of things I'd like to do. However, I really do think you should contact the authorities.

Justin A. Martell
www.sst911.org
jamartell.blogspot.com

In a soldier's stance, I aimed my hand at the mongrel dogs who teach! Fearing not that I'd become my enemy in the instant that I preach! My pathway led by confusion boats...mutiny from stern to bow!

If it's possible to admire Bob even more than I did before..

I do now. I think he's done a very useful thing by making this recording because it exposes the irrational, authoritarian mindset behind the worst of the pseudo-debunking sites. This guy may be one of the more blatantly unhinged examples, but he's certainly not unique. In fact, he's a fairly accurate reflection of the overall tenor of discussion at many of those sites.

This is infuriating beyond words and I hope law enforcement will be notified of this outrageous harassment. If there's anything we can do as a group to support Bob, please post suggestions.

Bob...

Didn't make the video. Troy did. Is that who you mean when you say, "I think he's done a very useful thing by making this recording because it exposes the irrational, authoritarian mindset behind the worst of the pseudo-debunking sites?"


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Sorry - I misunderstood

I had the impression Bob made the recording to document the harassment. It certainly makes for some very bad PR for the pseudo-debunkers, since Troy echoes several of their catch-phrases and talking points.

So Bob didn't know he was being recorded?

No.

Troy made the phone call, recorded it without Bob's knowledge, and posted it within the last few days to his youtube account, and has since taken it down. It was then posted to dailymotion.com, and Nico made a "video mashup" of it. The reason I recorded it was so Bob would have a copy if he decides to contact the authorities, which he may have already done. I don't know. The reason I posted it was because it was already posted, and I wanted to make people aware of it as responsibly as possible. To recommend that people do not respond violently to this, but use the anger as positively as possible.


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

Yes.

Lets not be baited by the provocateurs.

Edit- Recordings made withOUT( I am sorry i forgot to put the 'OUT' previously - spelling error) the consent of all parties concerned?

Sounds like an operative to me.

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Gotcha

Again, I apologize. I listened and reacted without noticing the caption on screen, which would have made that clear. Now I'm even more amazed at Bob's patience.

Bob was singled out because he is a danger to the official story

John MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE

Bob was singled out because he is a danger to the official story. And there will be others. As I said before putting this audio on 911blogger is important to protect ourselves and Bob. By putting our brains together we are going to find out how Troy works , if he is ill , if he is manipulated, if he is an agent of the CIA or FBI? ... He has taken the video of YouTube Why ? Is he scared of the backlash ?

Looking at all the entries for this entry we see that people are realising how hard it is for Bob and others. We can extrapolate this pressure on journalists, scientists , ... like exposed in the film "Reflecting Pool"
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United we stand. Alone we fall. Good job Jon.

As you know Bob can we please have his reaction to all this.

Thanks John

Irrefragable Proof of Controlled Demolition of the WTC

Here you go, Troy:

Large Quantities of Reacted and Unreacted Thermite in the Demolished World Trade Center

A truly vital piece of evidence that provides definitive proof that the World Trade Center towers were brought down by controlled demolition are the videos of yellow-hot molten metal seen cascading off the South Tower (World Trade Center Tower 2).

That piece of evidence isn't merely a smoking gun: it's a smoking nuclear cannon. Those videos, alone and by themselves, are irrefragable *proof* that the South Tower (at the very least) had thermite-like ("like" in the sense of producing comparable temperatures) incendiary demolition charges with the ability to easily slice through structural steel going off within it. There is no innocent explanation for what those videos record.

That is to say, the only way to get around that it is thermite which is causing that yellow-hot metal to cascade off the South Tower before its collapse would be to posit that we are seeing a different form of extremely powerful incendiary with thermite-like temperatures at work in the videos. Of which, even if true, would be every bit as much damning, since no such powerful incendiaries can be accounted for without involving a sinister intent to plant them there.

Below are four videos which contain some of this footage:

"Shot from street level of South Tower collapsing," CameraPlanet http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2991254740145858863

http://www.supportthetruth.com/vids/thermite.wmv
http://web.archive.org/web/20061213231413/http://www.supportthetruth.com...
http://www.plunder.com/Video-of-Thermite-on-9-11-at-the-W-T-C-and-Physic...

http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Molten%20Metal%20from%20WTC.mpg

"Wtc 1, impact site close up, tower collapse close up, long shot, people shouting," CameraPlanet http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8564772103237441151

From the color of the yellow-hot molten metal seen cascading off the South Tower, it had to be at least over 1000 °C, yet jet fuel burns in open air at 260-315 °C; nor do burning office, building, or plane materials impart temperatures anywhere near that hot to structural members (indeed, it would present quite a hazard if such articles were constructed with such powerful incendiaries, and so designers of such objects go out of their way to make sure that they are not). Thus, if it wasn't molten iron from thermite that we are seeing come off the South Tower, then by necessity a reaction source with a heat intensity very much like thermite had to be present. Yet there is nothing in the U.S. government's account that can explain such a heat source; indeed, there's nothing innocent that could explain it, since it requires some sort of extremely powerful incendiary.

For more on this, see Steven E. Jones's (Ph.D.; physicist and archaeometrist; former professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University) below paper:

"Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse?," Dr. Steven E. Jones, Journal of 911 Studies, Vol. 3 (September 2006) http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/Why_Indeed_Did_the_WTC_...
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/Papers/J6p2%20.doc (Older version.)

See also:

"Experiments to test NIST 'orange glow' hypothesis," Steven E. Jones, Ph.D., August 31, 2006 http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Experiments-to-test-NIST-orange-glowh...
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Liquid_Aluminum_011.mpg
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Liquid_Aluminum_012.mpg

"Experiments with Molten Aluminum," Steven E. Jones with Wesley Lifferth, Jared Dodson, Jacob Stevenson and Shannon Walch, circa June 2006 http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ExptAlMelt.doc

"A description of molten aluminum poured onto rusty steel," Wes Lifferth, Physics Shop, Brigham Young University, Journal of 9/11 Studies, Vol. 9 (March 2007) http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200703/Molten_Aluminum_Poured_...

Moreover, even the official FEMA scientists Jonathan Barnett, Ronald R. Biederman, and R. D. Sisson, Jr. bolster the evidence that thermate (i.e., thermite with sulfur added, which causes it to slice through steel even faster by forming a eutectic alloy with it) was used to bring down the WTC towers (see "Appendix C: Limited Metallurgical Examination" in World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations, Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA 403, May 2002 http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf ):

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Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent inter granular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. ... No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified. The rate of corrosion is also unknown.
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And in the below paper it is conclusively proved via chemical analysis using wavelength dispersive X-ray spectroscopy (WDS), scanning electron microscopy (SEM), and X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (X-EDS) that large quantities of thermite analogs (such as thermate) were used in the destruction of the World Trade Center towers:

"Revisiting 9/11/2001--Applying the Scientific Method," Dr. Steven E. Jones, Journal of 911 Studies, Vol. 11 (May 2007) http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf

See also the below on additional physical remains of thermite (in the form of unreacted flakes of thermite) from the demolished World Trade Center, collected even before clean-up operations began:

"Announcing a discovery: Red/gray bi-layered chips in the WTC dust," ProfJones (Steven E. Jones), 911Blogger.com, December 22, 2007 http://911blogger.com/node/13090

"Dr._Steven_E._Jones_Boston_911_Conference_12-15-07_Red_chips_Thermite.mov," December 21, 2007 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4186920967571123147

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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

Absolutely despicable...

Absolutely despicable... These types of OCT and disinfo provocateurs are everywhere unfortunately. It's a mad ugly fight out in the 9/11 truth realm. We're with you Bob, and Troy is the real piece of trash to stoop to such a level.

After hearing this...I am making over a 100 Truth signs...

My ears got red!
I made over 100 truth signs (most are on stakes)
I am hitting the streets in the city tomorrow morning early.
SIGN BLITZ

The Truth message trumps insults.

This is my way of fighting back and supporting Bob. I am gonna get the truth out there.

SIGN BLITZ
The Truth message trumps insults.

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If one does not thoroughly LOOK, the TRUTH is not visible.

Great.

Pls take some photos if you can and blog it if you have time.

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Will try to take pics...lots of road to cover.

I will try to to take pics. Ha! It ends up being a lot of road to cover.
I have done many signs and thousands of DVDs/info card packs in the past.
See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpH453BTUJk

But when I get pissed at the opposition to Truth and the insults to honorable men! ,,,I am determined even more to get the truth out. The truth message trumps insults. Get the word out...This is the best way I know of to honor Bob.
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North Texans for 911 Truth take a stand for Truth. To hell with the odds...damn the coyotes of injustice...those thieving liers have met their match. Honor & Truth are on our side. Stand Proud...Stand Tall for 9/11 Truth. Dallas - Ft Worth area ~ http://9-11.meetup.com/249/ WEBSITE http://tellstruth.webs.com/index.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpH453BTUJk
See THE PLANE TRUTH PROJECT
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If one does not thoroughly LOOK, the TRUTH is not visible.

Go as a group if possible.

Many hands make heavy work light.

And.

Thanks.

Just saw your video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpH453BTUJk

AWESOME!

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WELL OVER 100 TRUTH SIGNS IN THE DALLAS NORTH 40

Sunday - May 25th - Memorial Day Weekend.
---This is the North Texan way of supporting Bob and others...GET THE MESSAGE OUT!! Repeat the message!

WELL OVER 100 9/11 TRUTH SIGNS ARE POSTED IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF DALLAS (suburbs).
These were stake signs, paper on poles, paper-cardboard signs on poles, etc. BIG BOLD PRINT Much on colored stock.
"Google 9/11 Truth"
"Expose the 9/11 Coverup"
"Google 9/11 Truth - Explosive Used"
"Research 9/11 - Explosives Proven"
etc.
etc.
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Ha! ...a word of advice...start very early. End early. I started at 5:30 am...running road till 11:30 am. Ha! I should had started earlier and ended earlier...the city (suburb) building inspections spotted me around 11am and I got a $563 ticket. ...Ha! The price of freedom is never cheap.
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Tomorrow I will finish giving out a few hundred DVDs-info card packs.

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PS I did not take any pics or video...I was beat...really tired by the end of the run.

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If one does not thoroughly LOOK, the TRUTH is not visible.

If you have time to

If you have time to road-trip, I'd put some of those signs on the freeway overpasses on I-64 in Hurricane, WV, where Troy is from. (Exit 34.)

Sorry, it is a heck of a drive from Texas to WV. ha!

The message of 9/11 Truth all around the country and world, repeated over and over, will do much to further Bob's objectives.

If one does not thoroughly LOOK, the TRUTH is not visible.

He called me last night

I got a call from the same jerk last night. He feigned to be an activist moving to Palo Alto and then began the "Have you always been insane or is this new?" When he said he recorded the calls and put them up on You-Tube- I began to challenge him directly and he started in on the "You LIe" bullshit that he used on Bob.

He sounds mentally defective- either that or he is a government op just trying to waste our time and harass us.

Carol Brouillet
http://www.communitycurrency.org

Watch out...

For that 304 number... it's a doozie.


Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

He is a govt op.

Now I am getting angry.

If he doesn't know when to stop, he is only going to harm himself greatly.

Perhaps it is time for all those who have been harrassed, intimidated or threatened by the "Troys" and "Haupts" to collect the evidence and make necessary reports to authorities as a 1st step to counter their attempts to terrorize and intimidate.

911 Truth is a Peaceful Movement looking for Justice and Truth. Those who attempt to pervert, distort and harrass activists are going to face the Law and Due Process sooner or later.

Benedict Arnolds in the White House and elsewhere are NOT going to get away with this.

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I think this is a great

I think this is a great idea. I received a call from Nico "Hitler" a few weeks ago. I wasn't home, but he left a message which he proceeded to use in a You Tube video . . .

I think, somehow, we should involve the authorities (all incidents reported to the same office/person) so that, at the least, each of these events is documented and public.

Spot on , Betsy

Even if nothing goes anywhere immediately, it will be on record.
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It would really help if

It would really help if someone like you, who already had the respect of the local community and has chosen to be a public figure, took decisive action. If you filed a police report and faxed it to Bob it would really help his situation.

Just a thought.
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My Police????

I filed a formal complaint againt the Palo Alto Police Department who threatened to arrest me when I was gathering signatures on an Impeach Cheney Petition in my local park. Apparently they believe a local ordinance trumps the US Constitution. (The Police investigated themselves and found that they were flawless.)

I also told the local police about the night six police cars pulled me over at midnight ( in Santa Rosa on the freeway, after a political event) and pointed their guns at my 16 year old son and I at midnight, claiming we fit the description of suspects who had just committed armed robbery. They handcuffed me and put me in the back of the only car without flashing lights. After 5 or 10 minutes, they let me go. I believe they were trying to scare me to curb my activism. When i asked the officer before we left if he was going to give me a speeding ticket (I thought they were pulling me over for speeding- i was speeding.) The officer said, "Lady, after what happened, i wouldn't dare give you a speeding ticket." What they did was illegal and a violation of our rights. There was no armed robbery anywhere in the vicinity that night.

I will exercise my rights, and try to keep them, but I can't imagine the police actually helping protect activists from harassment. (Although, we have been 'gently escorted' by police at times while doing a march, supposedly protecting our free speech rights. And many on a personal level seem to agree that the biggest criminals hold the highest offices.)

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Honestly I don't know what you're on about

I'm talking about a clear and cut case of phone harassment. That is a crime. It is their job to record criminal activities. Or would you rather get nothing in exchange for your tax?

The longer you wait to file a complaint the less credible the complaint will be.

Alternatively you could file a complaint with the precinct our Troy lives in (that would be ideal actually). Someone in this thread has the contact info. I'm sure any help you can give will be appreciated.
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Wasn,t Troy the guy on the

Wasn,t Troy the guy on the Gerry Springer show who wanted a sex change to become a Lesbian,and wasn,t Nico Haupt the trans sexual caricature in "Springtime for Hitler"?.These idiots are put on this earth to laugh at and that is exactly what we should do.Arguing back only feeds their grandiose delusions.I spoke to Troy,s mother and she said"He is not an Agent Provocateur he,s just a very naughty boy".

Providing info for Troy Boy

is a waste of time because either he will reply you are a liar or say he doesn't know about that but you're still a liar. His mentally challenged state of mind is summed up pretty good in some examples of calls made to Alex Jones, there are a few on youtube.

Not the first time

There are two scenarios here, either Troy is mentally infirm or he an agent of the September criminals. Troy has called our members before but found himself verbosely rebuked, sending him quietly into the static of mobile phone discourse with an eventual silent disconnect. Bob, do not even entertain the tomfoolery of this overly fluoridated imbecile. Keep strong truth-movement, turn your anger into fuel for the engine of truth. Make signs as the good gentleman pleaded.

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"The sun, the moon, the truth!"

This movement will go nowhere

unless we have honest members of the FBI & other gov. agencies, working with us.
(IMO) this & the Nico assault sitution are a good place to bring in the "good guy's", who are sworn in to serve & protect.

Even thought all of these agencies have likely been compromised to some degree, before, during & after 9.11. There are still great people working in them & they need to be drawn out & restore honesty & decency, above all.

Yes.

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Hey troy...

Were you touching yourself when you made that call? You know. Down there?

Betcha a dollar.

Troy:

guys!

Just call Troy, "officer troy" or "troy the troll." He's just got to pay the rent on his trailer man!

Don't let government money actually get what it wants...our time spent on cointelpro agents like this goofball. Nothing can ever come of it!

if anyone is interested...

in addressing Troy directly here's his phone number:

(EDIT: anyone who wants to know Troy's number should send an email to Boris via the contact page. -rep.)

Don't worry, he is OK with it. He called to harass me a couple of months ago (and, as is his style, recorded the conversation without my consent and then deleted it after awhile). That's how I found his phone number (got his address too but that I don't want to publish as I respect everyone privacy, even that of a scoundrel like him).

So I called him and asked him if it was OK for me to make this information known. He said yes, - well, to be precise, he said, "I don't give a fuck what you do, you America-hating piece of trash!" but I take that as a "yes".

So here goes...

Be polite when addressing him, don't let him to get a rise out of you.

Cheers,

Boris Epstein

Boris...

If you want to distribute that number, 911blogger users will have to contact you directly. I don't care if "Troy" did give you tacit permission.

911blogger.com is not a telephone directory, even for scum-sucking cretins like "Troy".

Make sure you have the contact option switched on in your profile.

-rep.

Rep

I am sorry, I didn't mean to violate the policy - I just didn't see a problem with publicizing the data that I was authorized to publicize.

Boris Epstein

WOW

Troy called me a stripper and asked how much I charge. haha what an ignorant asshole. sorry he probably has the most miserable home life and can't get laid by his wife, he is probably 500 pounds and just sits on his computer harrassing people in this movement. he is asking bob what is wrong with the commission report but CAN YOU EVEN READ TROY???? hahaha

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

this is actually pretty funny

The fact that he expected a beautiful intelligent woman like you to even look at him, never mind strip for him, is yet another demonstration of his generally delusional state of mind.

By the way, you guys are doing great things in the sunny San Diego:) I am always impressed by the photo and video reports.

Boris Epstein

Hillbilly insult?

That's the best he can come up with? Calling a classy lady a stripper?
He was probably thinking of his sister/wife when he came up with that one.

Thank you Jon

for saving this and posting it. An attack on Bob is an attack on all of us. We stand with you Bob.

And thank you Troy for inspiring us to re-double and re-triple our efforts.

Jeremy From LA Calls Troy From West Virginia

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8726690131620198919

Jeremy's got incredible patience... I am just totally impressed.

He is one of the We Are Change LA guys, by the way.

Boris Epstein

Very good...

I just wish Jeremy wouldn't get bogged down in arguing with the prat. Really the important bit is this wanker harassing people.

Still good job. ;-)

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