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I think you're onto something here, Jon.

It's a stylish video clip. It's like fertile ground and could lead to something more, IMHO?

Jon definitely..
...doesn't believe them!

The song...

Was only 3:06 long... unless you think I should make a Part II with more unanswered questions. Sequels generally don't get the attention that the original does... if this gets really popular then maybe.

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Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

great video, but where is WTC 7?

Hi Jon,

First of all let me say that you are doing a great job for the movement.

Are these all the unanswered questions that the families want answered?

Surely they feel that the controlled demolition of WTC 7 is of enough significance to justify a question or two. It seems conspicuously absent from the list.

Could you explain your aversion to WTC 7's controlled demolition being a significant piece of evidence?

Rob...

I recommend you read this, this, and this. Every word, every page. If after doing that you still feel the need to ask me those questions, I will be more than happy to answer them.


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I found the question about WTC 7.

Hi Jon,

I am a relative newcomer to the movement. I respect you and your opinions about the direction of the movement, and your assessment of what is important. You have been in the heart of the movement longer than I have even been on the periphery. I understand this, but I am puzzled by your earlier statements about WTC 7, specifically your concerns about people saying that WTC 7 is "smoking gun" evidence of an inside job.

When I want to bring people around to the Truth, I show them a video of WTC 7. That is the single most important anomaly that brought me into the movement. It has worked for me when bringing others around to my point of view that we have been deceived.

Here is the question from the families that speaks to WTC 7.

Question for Mayor Rudy Giuliani

13. On 9/11, no aircraft hit WTC 7. Why did the building fall at 5:20 PM that evening? Larry Silverstein is heard on a PBS tape saying "I remember getting a call from the, E.R., fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the [WTC 7] building collapse," said Larry Silverstein, WTC Leaseholder. - PBS (9/10/02) Does "pull" mean demolished? What do you know about this?

Respectfully Jon, what am I missing?

Thanks for understanding that I am just curious and not in any way trying to cause any division or problems. I just want to understand where you are coming from on this subject.

Thanks.

The Larry Silverstein quote is weak evidence in my opinion

I agree with you that WTC 7 is devastating to the official conspiracy theory.

That said, the Larry Silverstein quote is weak evidence in my opinion.

I would mention it only after 1,000 other pieces.

Videos and pictures of molten metal are stronger.

The physics of each of the 3 "collapses" destroy the official conspiracy theory for any one who believes in the laws of gravity, conservation of energy and conservation of momentum.

I have collected some of what I consider to be some of the strongest evidence here:
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/feeds/PiecesOfThePuzzleBox1.html

Thanks.

why do you consider it "weak evidence"?

support your opinion.

i believe Silverstein saw that it was obvious that WTC 7 was CD, so he attempted to give a plausible explanation. Since it is impossible to set up the CD of a 47 story building in one day, his explanation that the fire department did it, sticks out as a dubious explanation. Couple that with the fact that the 911 Commission didn't even address WTC 7. They could have said that Al CIAda must have set up the CD in advance through some clandestine method, but they didn't. They said nothing. Couple that with the fact that Silverstein has changed his tune twice since that statement. First revision was that he meant pull the firemen out of the building rather than pull the building. Secondly, when confronted by WE ARE CHANGE recently, he said that the radio antenna from WTC 1 fell on WTC 7 and that is what brought it down. I feel strongly that Larry Silverstein was in on it. Silverstein is a big beneficiary of the attacks. He made billions from the "terrorist" insurance he had on the WTC complex. How could an insurance company decide to pay this off without a thorough investigation of these facts? Could the insurance companies be satisfied without getting an explanation of his contradictions and implausible explanations? Why has he not been called in for questioning? The fact that he hasn't is also evidence of a coordinated cover up.
I think the molten metal, physics and all the rest are very important parts of the tapestry that builds the case, but I don't discount the Silverstein quotes.

What someone said vs hard physical evidence.

To me it is like eye witness testimony vs a photograph or video or sample of thermite.

What someone said vs hard physical evidence.

Is the quote from Larry Silverstein evidence? Yes?

Does it have value? Yes?

Does it disprove the official conspiracy by itself? No, because people can say that he meant something else. You have to say much more to build the case, as you have done above.,

Does the speed of the "collapses" on video disprove the official conspiracy by itself? Pretty much as the laws of physics are not up for debate.

After that it is ... "who planted the bombs in the buildings"?

Peace.

I see where you are coming from.

That makes sense to me. Thanks Free Truth.

If it came to a jury trial, I would hope that the jurors would have at least a rudimentary understanding of physics and a modicum of common sense. Unfortunately, there are no guarantees of either.

But...

The Larry Silverstein quote about pulling Building 7, when used in conjunction with the video evidence of Building 7 coming down in an obvious controlled demolition, is very compelling and puts Larry Silverstein on the defense.

With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org

There is more to 9/11...

Than how those buildings came down. I am not one to put all of my eggs into one basket, and I think that mentality is dangerous because what if we're wrong? Then, the 9/11 Truth Movement dies in one fell swoop when and if we're proven to be. The reason I asked you to read every word on every page of those links is because, as you found out, how those buildings came down is on the minds of the 9/11 families, just as 99.99% of everything else this movement talks about. A lot of the questions this movement has came from them. The reason I made this movie was because the BBC addressed WTC7 as "the final mystery of 9/11", and that is WRONG. Now please, I do not want to get into a "why WTC7 OR BUST is the way go to" discussion.


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Thanks Jon for you explanation.

I agree that we shouldn't put all our eggs in one basket. I certainly don't hang my hat on WTC 7 alone. I believe all the questions you put in your movie are pertinent. I was just curious, and now I think I understand. You are concerned that if we focus too much on WTC 7, then the task of the debunkers is reduced to killing one giant, rather than a hundred giants. Even though I don't think they can effectively kill that giant, I see your point. Thank you for your explanation and please forgive me if it seemed like I was being too aggressive in the phrasing of my questions. We are all on the same team with the same objective.

No problem.


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

"there is more..."

I dont think the question here is whether there is more to 9/11 "than how those buildings came down",
It rather is: "is there more to 9/11 than ignored forewarnings about an AL-Quaida attack?"
Looking at your questions, it doesnt seem like there is.
You seem to have no problem to put all your eggs into the incompetence/Lihop basket.

I'll say it again...

There is no such thing as LIHOP or MIHOP. They are just words created to cause division in this movement, and you seem to know how to use them just right. Keep it up. Nico Haupt, the man who invented them, would be proud.

Incidentally, do you agree with the BBC that WTC7 is "the final mystery of 9/11?" That is what prompted me to make this movie after all.


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Well, as we all know, 9/11 created an islamofascist myth.
None of your questions touches on that. You can keep pretending that this is not important, and only serves to 'divise' people.
However, most people DO understand this very crucial difference.
I dont care whether you call it LIHOP or 98520FX935.
Nice try btw in bringing up Haupt to stamp me as a divisive lunatic. To be honest tho, i dont really care about that guy, like you seem to.

Most people understand...

That no matter what some of the theorists of this movement say, there is information to substantiate the idea that hijackers were involved. There is also information to suggest that maybe they were Muslim. What other thing most people understand is that if Muslims were involved, that does not mean you should hate all Muslims. It was not a Muslim crime, it was a crime. It was not a Neocon crime, an American crime, a Zionist crime, an Israeli crime, a Pakistani crime, a Saudi Arabian crime. It was a crime, and should be treated as such. The questions in the movie touch on a NUMBER of things. The most important thing it touches on is that the families have no idea who, how, and why their loved ones were murdered. To answer my own question, no, WTC7 is NOT the "final mystery of 9/11."


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"theorists"

Id appreciate some clarification on your use of that word.
From what i get, by "theorist", you mean someone who rejects the official conspiracy theory that muslims hijacked planes and somehow caused 3 buildings to blow up due to magic jet fuel.
Is that correct?
Would you not agree that this official story is a 'conspiracy theory' ?
If so, what makes someone who rejects that theory a "theorist" ?
Furthermore, id like to know whether you call Richard Gage and the people at ae911truth.org "theorists" too ?
And what about NIST ? Are they "theorists"?
There is no need to bring up any known lunatic name in your answer btw, this is not about them.

No, you are incorrect.

By "theorists", I mean people who say every piece of evidence that coroborates some of the official account is either fake or planted with no proof of either claim.

Incidentaly em7... this video is becoming very popular. That makes me happy. What does that make you?


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Would be stronger if it broke out of the Official Theory frame

Now that controlled demolition has been proven by David Ray Griffin, Jones, Gage and others, it is time bring up the controlled demolitions of WTC 1, 2 and 7 when ever possible.

Even the family members can now be asking what happened to WTC 7, where did the molten metal come from and why was there thermate residue, etc.

This all gets us past the incompetence theory which they would be happy to settle for.

The only reason that Condi testified to the "Bin Laden determined to attack in the US" PBD is because it fit the story they were selling.

It is not like she was being water boarded and cracked. That was put out on purpose. Bin Laden is part of their myth.

Have a look here:
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/feeds/PiecesOfThePuzzleBox1.html

"Seymour Hersh discussing in mainstream television news appearances how (Bush and heads of) the U.S. Military purposely let Osama Bin Laden escape at Tora Bora, Afghanistan, and flee across the border into Pakistan."

Thanks.

The official theory frame...

Says that the families were ecstatic with the results of the 9/11 Commission, and that all of their questions were answered.

Why does it feel like I'm being "bullied" into promoting Controlled Demolition, or being made to look like I'm somehow "wrong" for not including it in the movie?


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LIHOP

Unfortunately, this video is weak, because it promotes LIHOP (Let it happen on purpose). Questions about the controlled demolitions evidence would make this video 1000 times stronger because it would show that the event took weeks and months of preparation by sophisticated military operations with protection on the inside; hence, inside job, or MIHOP (Made it happen on purpose).

With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org

No such thing.


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Show ""Now that controlled" by jamartellxiv

You are very wrong.

Have you seen Richard Gage's presentation? The footage of the demolitions is indeed proof enough.

With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org

If you would like...

To make a movie that has your unanswered questions, then feel free. Controlled Demolition is only covered in about 95% of the movies made by this movement. If I like to make movies that have other topics, then that is my prerogative.

I am not going to be bullied into promoting anything (wink wink to those individuals voting everything I say down).


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Relax Jon

You seem to be taking this personally. Why is there an up/down arrow with each comment, unless it is there as a means to have an influence on the conversation.

No one is bullying you. I feel strongly that your video is counterproductive. Your video hurts our mission of getting the truth out. I feel strongly about it.

If only I could see who votes my comments up and down! (wink wink)

With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org

Ok... then don't watch or promote it.

Personally, I think that pointing out that the 9/11 Commission failed in it's mandate of providing a "Full And Complete Accounting" of the 9/11 attacks, and was a complete and total farce helps our cause more than promoting any theory, but that's just me.

And since when does helping the families promote their call for a real investigation hurt "our mission of getting the truth out?" Guess what, that IS part of our mission. At least it's part of mine.

BTW... Dr. Griffin, Janice Matthews, Kyle Hence, Ray Nowosielski, etc... sent me emails that praised this movie. Go figure.


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Great job Jon

As always.

Are you based on the "physics" or "whistleblowers"?

Here's my 2 cents on the issue on it which I constantly go over, but as of today here's my thoughts, and I am definitely open to debate about it. I think that there are 2 issues that surround 9/11. I don't think it drives a wedge into 9/11, like disinformation theories intend, but more defines categorizing a growing body of facts in a maturing movement of 9/11. Anyway here goes:

1) The first issue is what I refer to as the "physics" of 9/11. In other words, what happened to the buildings, what happened to the Pentagon, and Shanksville. Though most "physics" 9/11 truthers sometimes use at the core of their argument WTC7, which makes sense as it is the "smoking gun" from this perspective for several reasons, not going to be stated here. I would argue, though with no evidence of this, that individuals who are more "scientifically" minded, meaning they have science, engineering backgrounds, etc, may lean toward the "physics" and in particular to the "buildings" that they can cite as the primary reason that brought them to 9/11. Ae911truth.org is at the crux of this argument along with the 9/11 Commission not addressing the buildings collapses, and aguments of the Buildings Performance Study and NIST weaknesses. If I had to, I could pigeon-hole myself in this category at my core, though I don't think it's only the buildings, but the whole picture that makes one a 9/11 truther or speak out and inform others, but the big picture.

2) On the other hand, I have encountered 9/11 truthers who for whatever reason do not adhere to the "physics" of 9/11. Instead, these individuals are just as adamant on 9/11 being an inside job so to speak. What is their driving motivator to informing others and a criminal investigation is what I simply call the "whistle blowers" but also refers to the intentional intelligence failure before, during, and after 9/11 including the FBI thwarting, CIA intelligence failures, NORAD, and after, the foreign and domestic policies, and the failures of the 9/11 Commission including accountability. What's more, IMHO, people who are first introduced to 9/11, the "hardcore skeptics" if you will, do not have answers to whistleblowers who have credibility and have put decades of their careers on the line and most likely lost them who have said they were thwarted from doing their jobs and no accountability was ever had. Names like Robert Wright, Harry Sammit, and Colleen Rowley to name a few along with Congress representatives like Venture, Johnson, McKinney and others at http://patriotsquestion911.com/media.html

Hear me out, again, as what got me into 9/11 truth were the "physics", but those who only talk about the "whistleblowers" have a couple of advantages. First, the Hearst History Channel has had a hard time attempting to debunk whistle blowers, I haven't seem them even try, for the reason it can be easily checked and it's much easier for them to get emotional responses to talking about the loss of live in buildings, planes, etc. Now, people on the streets come with a preconception to what happened on the building, from the media constantly saying "it was the combination of the impact of the planes, combined with the intense fire, that caused the building to collapse", or like the Harley Davison plant. Furthermore you get into 7 that wasn't hit by a plane, and they're thinking the history channel debris lie or again the "fire". To rebut the "physics" you need to get into the melting points of steel, time temperature curves, falling at freefall speed, into its own footprint, and the like (and I do what I can to strenghten the case for the "physics" as some may have noticed). Though when first introducing people who are unfamiliar on the street with 9/11, time is limited, so do you have a physics lesson? Or say, look there are FBI, CIA, and other whistle blowers (even those whistleblowers based on physics) who put their reputation on the line and have said that 9/11 is something more, like internal corruption by rogue elements within the government and that this corruption still exists. That 9/11 from a historical perspective is nothing new, from the Reichstag Fire, Gulf of Tonkin, to many more state sponsored events the corruption is there and the PNAC group carried out their agenda combined with hard evidence like Northwoods, the intelligence program Able Danger, and the wargames. Then about the victim families having to fight for a 9/11 Commission the funding of it, to the Family Steering Committee not having their questions answered. In other words, there is more than enough evidence to get someone who has not introduced to 9/11 to ask questions based on the "whistleblower" perspective, even though every issue I mentioned under this label doesn't exactly fall within the constraint. In other words, everything other than the "physics" or not the "what happened" but "why did it happen" question.

Personally, and I'm sure most people try and present as much as they can or at least their expertise, but only when the person seems receptive to certain topics, like WTC7, like "did you hear about WTC7." Lately, I start with the "whistleblowers" to simply plant seeds to someone unfamilar with the material. Presenting everything is not necessary, nor do you have time on the street, also I reluctantly say that the buildings are not at the core issue, its the corruption that led to the buildings being controlled demolished. The buildings and physics is only the mechanism to get to the issue of corruption. Yet, one may argue that the "whistleblowers" is also just another mechanism to address or illustrate the corruption as well, Anyway, I believe the goal of street actions is to get someone to watch a movie, as most of us learned about 9/11 from one. Movies like "Press for Truth" attempt to present the willful intelligence failures, others like "Loose Change" present everything minus a focus on the "whistleblowers." For those not convinced by "Loose Change" there is still a whole realm of "whistleblowers" that they must be dealt with, or just blissfully ignore 9/11 and blindly believe the 9/11 Commission and moreover the government story. Personally, I'd like to see and call for a strickly whisleblower movie that "Press for Truth" did not get to. This would greatly add to the arsenal of 9/11 Truth, combined with ae911truth.org "How the Towers Fell" would be nice. Though Sibel Edmonds "Kill the Messenger", and Who Killed John O'Neill may already address this, but I know of no movie that overviews specifically 9/11 whistleblowers (there may be, I just am not aware).

Michael Ruppert makes a good point on this IMHO, that in order to argue this in court, it is much harder to argue the physics, since it is your experts against their experts, and in the end, they will always inundate you with their endless supply of experts. Experts much be quantified as to their qualifications, whereas a whistleblower saying, 'I was thwarted to preventing hijackers in the US' needs no qualification, and goes right into evidence. Plus this wouldn't overwhelm a jury, like expert testimony would of physics, though this shouldn't matter, but may.

Before forming this 2 branches of 9/11 truth. I initially conducted informal friendly polls within the small section of 9/11 truthers I have come across with and I've asked what was your smoking gun to 9/11 truth, the "physics" or "whistleblowers", I still found that for most truthers it was the physics, but what is more effective at planting seeds remains the question. Though this may explain why the "physics" were not mentioned in the video. As the "physics" of 9/11 may be like a 102 of 9/11 Truth while the whistleblowers may be the intro 101 class, some may feel the opposite and I respectfully invite any comments.

With that being said I think Richard Gage and the other Architects and Engineers have done a superb job and he really is a beacon light of hope for those seeking the truth. I have no knowledge of whistleblowers speaking out other than physics based Kevin Ryan or Sibel Edmonds, though she is not strictly a 9/11 whistleblower, but a general corruption whistleblower, that may compare at least IMHO. Whether pensions and careers are easier to be threatened of intelligence whistleblowers like Anthony Shaffer that prevent them from speaking out, in other words a more retaliatory mechanism to deal with "whisleblowers" remain for debate.

In any case, whether it's the "physics" or "whistleblowers", either mutually excluding one from the other or combining their implications, both drive at the same issue, corruption. In the end, it's whatever mechanism you feel comfortable informing others about. On a last note, did Al-Qaeda have the means and opportunity to rig WTC7 with explosives, highly unlikely, so the combined effect of the two do have merit as well.

Heh...

This is the "John Lennon Series."


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Just Gimme Some Truth

John Lennon

Im sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
Ive had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth

No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of hope
Money for dope
Money for rope

No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of soap
Money for dope
Money for rope

Im sick to death of seeing things
From tight-lipped, condescending, mamas little chauvinists
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth now

Ive had enough of watching scenes
Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas
All I want is the truth now
Just gimme some truth

No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of soap
Its money for dope
Money for rope

Ah, Im sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites
All I want is the truth now
Just gimme some truth now

Ive had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the truth now
Just gimme some truth now

All I want is the truth now
Just gimme some truth now
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth


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I think it's very good Jon...

...nicely done, with very important questions. I think it can only help, not hurt the movement. However I would refrain from comments like we are putting all our eggs in one basket with Building 7. We all know there are issues other than Building 7, such as the points you make in this movie. That doesn't mean that it is only one of 1000 issues as I have seen you say repeatedly in the last few weeks. It is one of the most important issues. I know from experience that Building 7 is what convinces a lot of people at first, myself and many of my friends included. Even my most brainwashed friends balk at attempting to explain the mysterious collapse of Building 7 when they have a whole host of theories for the other points. It is for that reason that I think many people rightly focus on Building 7 to convince people who do not know yet about this stuff. No BBC or any other explanation other than controlled demolition will suffice. That is why the NIST report failed to stop our movement. The same will be true for Building 7.

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government." -The Declaration of Independence

This movie...

Is doing SURPRISINGLY well... please help me to spread it around... thanks.


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