9/11 - Oklahoma City - Same bombs used?

Did 'Barometric Bomds' take down both the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City and the World Trade Center Complex in New York?
Was 9/11 a carbon copy of Oklahoma City?

"Just substitute Osama bin Laden and al Queda for Timothy McVeigh and 'the militias' - 'hijacked' planes for a truck full of fertilizer, and the World Trade Center in NYC for the Murrah Building in Oklahioma City. The one difference key was there was no Internet to speak of back in 1995 to get out the word and organize a truth broad based truth movement."

1:00:40 minutes into the video: What is a barometric bomb?

Sources: #1   #2   #3   #4



Here are some other links of interest here;

Benton Partin's position is that there were multiple charges;

"To cause the damage pattern that occurred to the Murrah building, there would have to have been demolition charges at several supporting column bases, at locations not accessible from the street, to supplement the truck bomb damage. Indeed, a careful examination of photographs showing the collapsed column bases reveals a failure mode produced by demolition charges and not by a blast from the truck bomb. To understand what caused the damage to the Murrah Building, one needs to understand some basics about the use and nature of explosives. First, blast through air is a very inefficient energy coupling mechanism against heavily reinforced concrete beams and columns. Second, blast damage potential initially falls off more rapidly than an inverse function of the distance cubed. That is why in conventional weapons development, one seeks accuracy over yield for hard targets. That is also why in the World Trade Center bombing (where the only source of blast damage was a truck bomb) the column in the middle of the bombed-out cavity was relatively untouched, although reinforced concrete floors were completely stripped away for several floors above and below the point of the bomb’s detonation (see Time Magazine, 3-8-93, p 35). By contrast, heavily reinforced concrete structures can be destroyed effectively through detonation of explosives in contact with the reinforced concrete beams and columns. For example, the entire building remains in Oklahoma City were collapsed with 100-plus relatively small charges inserted into drilled holes in the columns. The total weight of all charges was on the order of 200 pounds."


The Elgin blast effects study is here;


"This study has been undertaken and this report has been prepared in order to develop parametric data for use in analyzing the event of April 19, 1995 in which the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building was destroyed by a terrorist attack utilizing explosive compounds.

Due to a limited amount of information in the public domain regarding blast effects against structures, a study was undertaken in which photographic data combined with known test parameters was analyzed to provide baseline data for estimating the effectiveness of explosive devices against reinforced concrete structures. The maximum potential blast pressure is used as the determinate factor in establishing resistance to blast and overall blast effect.

A study was conducted to map the pressure regions on a vertical face wall of a reinforced concrete test structure to provide baseline data. Data for the study was obtained from General Benton K. Partin, USAF (Ret). This information was supplied to him at his request by the Armament Directorate, Wright Laboratory, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida. A copy of this memorandum can be found in Appendix B.

Utilizing data from this study various conclusions can be drawn about the nature and components of the event of April 19, 1995 at the Murrah Federal Building.

This report is limited in scope to providing basic data and furnishing certain limited conclusions about the events in Oklahoma City and is being produced as part of a larger more detailed study of the events which occurred there."

The ANFO bomb itself can be argued against very strongly and logically as the sole source of destruction, but the demolition itself may not have needed the use of more exotic bombs, as Partin seems to indicate. Just moles on the inside to locate the support columns and get 'er done.


Incidentally, Bill Deagle lectured last year at the Vancouver 9/11 Truth conference that OKC and the WTC were demolished by nukes;

This caught the attention of quite a few people, including Steven Jones, who confronted Deagle about the evidence that Deagle was basing his conclusions upon;

The lobby was no place for a debate, so the organizers of the conference secured a quiet room for Jones and Deagle to meet (you'll need to turn up the volume for this, I didn't know how to amp the audio when I posted this);

Deagle promised evidence of his claims back in July of 2007, and said he would have it in weeks.

So far, nothing has emerged. I suspect this is because nukes were NOT used at WTC.

However, Jones and Deagle did agree that proper protocols need to be followed with any future collection of evidence (turn your audio back down!);

What is the difference

between a barometric bomb and a thermobaric bomb? Please excuse my ignorance but figuring out how to blow things up was something I preferred not to even think about before 9/11, so I don't know a whole lot about how this stuff works.

One thing that caught my eye is that they can be set to detonate at elevation.


Barometric Bomb

This is an advanced kind of bomb. It is activated when it is placed in an airplane or elevator that rises to different altitudes. The bomb is set to arm itself when it reaches a certain pressure which changes as it rises into the atmosphere. It explodes at whatever elevation that it was set to detonate.



For years, I have posted that the best way to blow up the Towers was to use the freight elevators. I use to get to ride these elevators back in the 70's. You could drive a truck directly onto to them and go to any floor. There were some floors in the Towers that were empty or had only a handful of people who worked on them. The mechanical floors wouldn't normally have many people around either. The easiest way to do the dirty, would be to wait until the morning of the attack to drive your bombs right onto the elevators, send them to specific floors and blow up the buildings from the inside out. That would certainly reduce the number of cutter charges you'd would have to place (a much more dangerous and risky venture) beforehand.

World Trade Center 6 <---> Oklahoma City

I don't know about you but to me there is resemblance between these two buildings, how they looked after the blasts. See link below: