Obama advisers: Bush era war criminals will walk

Stephen C. Webster
Monday November 17, 2008

Even as President-elect Obama vowed "to regain America's moral stature in the world" during Sunday's 60 Minutes appearance, two of his senior advisers confessed there is no intent to pursue those in the Bush administration who engaged in torture, a war crime.

Speaking on condition of anonymity to the Associated Press, the advisers said that the plan is to put a stop to current interrogation methods and to "look forward" as opposed to focusing on prior transgressions.

The Obama campaign did not offer a response before the report was published.

Human Rights Watch, a non-profit watchdog group, is lobbying the President-elect for fast action on the abuses of the Bush era.

"For far too long, the United States has undermined its ability to fight terror by adopting short-sighted policies that allowed torture and indefinite detention without charge," said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, in a Sunday release. "The United States urgently needs President-elect Obama to live up to his commitment to right the wrongs of the last seven years, and to regain the moral high ground in the fight against terrorism."

The group is pushing for Obama to bring Guantanamo detainees into the United States court system, and admit released prisoners into the country if it is feared they may be subject to torture upon returning home. They are also calling for an executive order to require the CIA to follow the US military's interrogation rules, and the establishment of an investigatory "truth commission" with subpoena power to enforce standing laws against US war criminals.

However, if the top candidate for Obama's Central Intelligence Agency is any indication, the activists may soon be disappointed. The Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan, citing a report by Mark Ambinder that Obama is close to appointing John Brennon, who served under former CIA Director George Tenet, Sullivan decried it as, "change we cannot believe in."

"Appointing Brennan to the CIA does not mean change from Bush," he wrote. "That was absolutely a critical part of Obama's message. With Brennan, we get the taint of a Bush and two-facedness of a Clinton. We need to say goodbye to all that, not perpetuate its double-speak."

Tenet was director of the agency when it was admitted that several prisoners were subjected to waterboarding: a form of torture that simulates the experience of drowning.

"[Obama believes] torture not be allowed in any form or fashion in any part of the federal government, and he would make sure that was the case," said Brennan to CQ Politics. "Whether the Army field manual is comprehensive enough to cover all those tactics and techniques, that’s something I think he’d look to his national security advisers for."

Blogger and filmmaker Glenn Greenwald is skeptical too.

"Brennan has been and continues to be an extremely important adviser for Obama on intelligence issues," he wrote. "His views on past administration conduct are, in many important instances, clearly disturbing and bear watching."

Alleged 9/11 'mastermind' Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is one such prisoner that was admittedly tortured. The American Civil Liberties Union warned Monday that Bush may try to "sabotage" Obama by "ramming through" the Mohammed tribunal. On Saturday it was also revealed that senior intelligence officials are lobbying President Bush to preemptively pardon intelligence agents who committed war crimes: an unprecedented act.

Nevertheless, one campaign meme -- "hope" -- has yet to flicker out for human rights activists.

"We are confident that consistent with his message of change, his actions and his criticism, he is going to repudiate the abusive counterterrorism policies of the Bush administration," Joanne Mariner with Human Rights Watch told IPS News.

surprise, surprise

As expected. Of course the sadistic fascists would not allow a successor who would prosecute them. Another effect of the 9/11 cover-up. By failing to expose the 9/11 psyop, the "opposition" leaves it intact as the ultimate excuse for "forgiving" torture--"They did what they had to do to protect us!"


“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson


brilliant analysis Michael.

Meet the new boss...

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

I fully expect Obama to be

I fully expect Obama to be an establishment democrat, nothing more. I must admit, though I voted for McKinney, I did briefly share the euphoria which overcame much of the nation on election night and the day after. If nothing else, it was nice to see millions of black people realize a major moment in their history, and it was nice to see Americans in general, for the first time in DECADES, feeling truly excited about the man who will lead the country. But like with any drug, the buzz was short-lived. It is with resigned pessimism that I type this post.

Obama won't challenge anything that is outside the zeitgeist.

One thing I've noticed about ANY president is that they are not allowed to challenge the myth of american exceptionalism. Just as some Germans thought Germany was the greatest country on earth during WWII and all of its atrocities, same with America. For Bushco to officially be prosecuted, it would mean... gasp... that American officials are capable of extraordinary evil. We can't allow Joe Sixpack to realize THAT!

I hate this idea of "looking forward" to include forgetting the past. Someone else said, on one of these Obama threads, that if Obama had been president in 1945, he would have, in the spirit of co-operation, healing, and moving forward, WORKED WITH the defeated Nazi criminals rather than supporting a Nuremburg style prosecution.

He will perpetuate the War on Drugs just like the War on Terror. He would never consider ordering the release of every non-violent drug offender and possibly legalizing certain things, out of the fear of being perceived as "sending the wrong message to our children." Ya know, the good gubmint, there to protect us!

He will not advocate universal health care; rather he will talk about how every American deserves health care while still appeasing the 7-figure corporate CEO's of HMO and pharmaceutical companies.

In short, he'll be a black Clinton. And like with Clinton and OKC, the shadow govt probably will pull a false flag during the Obama admin. Ya know, "just in case the citizens forgot" about the reality of Islamic terrorism. Of course, if the demolition goes wrong like it did with OKC, and some bombs don't detonate, they'll have a white patsy like they did with McVeigh.

You got it right

With Hillary as a potential Secretary of State.... the writing is one the wall.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

and Joe Lieberman retains


chairmanship of the prestigious Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee


Joe Lieberman gets reprieve from Dems, keeps chairmanship

by James Oliphant | Washington Bureau
1:39 PM CST, November 18, 2008

WASHINGTON - Move over James Bond. There's a new indestructible action hero: Joe Lieberman.

The senator from Connecticut, who was vilified by Democratic activists for his support of Republican presidential nominee John McCain, escaped serious retribution from his Democratic Senate colleagues Tuesday.

Lieberman will remain in the Democratic caucus and he will keep his chairmanship of the prestigious Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee. As part of a resolution adopted overwhelmingly by Democratic senators, he will only have to forfeit chairmanship of an Environment and Public Works subcommittee. He will keep chairmanship of another Armed Services subcommittee.

Where is the good faith?

Are police state powers required to prevent terrorist attacks? Any honest evaluation of pre-9/11 conduct by the intel community and the White House demonstrates that such powers were not needed to prevent 9/11. Thus, there is no good faith correlation. Look at the officials who made the case for expanded powers--Tenet, Black, Bush, Cheney, Hayden, etc. Why should we believe these people? They can't account for their pre-9/11 conduct.

From Scott Shane's (NYT) article about interrogator Deuce Martinez:

"The very fact that Mr. Martinez, a career narcotics analyst who did not speak the terrorists’ native languages and had no interrogation experience, would end up as a crucial player captures the ad-hoc nature of the program. Officials acknowledge that it was cobbled together under enormous pressure in 2002 by an agency nearly devoid of expertise in detention and interrogation."

The FBI was replaced as the lead interrogation agency for this? Torture and an interrogator with didn't speak Arabic, had no interrogation experience and evidently no CT experience? This is absurd. The whole thing seems to be a premeditated criminal conspiracy.

What criminal wouldn't prefer to "look forward" and forget?

I'm sure any rapist, robber, murderer, swindler, embezzler, would feel the same. Forget my crimes, do not punish me.

Wait, that IS who we're talking about.

Obama cosmetic change.White puppet willbe replaced by black one

Herblay FRANCE

bonsoir ,

it is evident that Bush the white puppet handled by rich will be replaced by the black puppet. But you can not blame Obama. If he wants tto avoid the CIA leaving him in the JFK killers hands and staying alive he will have to toe the line already traced out for him.

It need a lions courage like Cynthia McKinney's to dare to bring Dick Cheney and his cronies to justice ! Obama can say that impeachment of George Bush is off the table but we will bring symbolically the table to the White House or whereever it needs to be and on the table will be the impeachment order !

Obama you were elected to put the impeachment ON THE TABLE !



The Only Hope

The only hope that I have is that O is being coy and playing along so he can gather all these criminals together at one place.... get live television coverage.... and arrest all these criminals in front of the world.

O...Want to give the most memorable speech in history.... end your inauguration with a mass arrest.

History! Kill them before they kill you.

I know this is never going to happen.... but it is the only hope I have in Obama
Together in Truth!

And I thought I had a wild imagination....

You must have some really good stuff, man...

***big grin***

Obama channels ghost of JFK or something like that?

One can always hope, I guess....


Off Topic?

Did it occur to anyone that all these banks and companies being bailed out right now were anchored in the WTC complex?
Together in Truth!