Former ISI Chief: Mumbai And 9/11 Both “Inside Jobs”

Former ISI Chief: Mumbai And 9/11 Both “Inside Jobs”

Hamid Gul tells CNN that neo-cons, zionists were behind terror attacks

Paul Joseph Watson
Monday, December 8, 2008

General Hamid Gul, the former head of the Pakistani ISI, told CNN yesterday that both the Mumbai attacks and 9/11 were “inside jobs,” much to the chagrin of host and CFR luminary Fareed Zakaria, who told viewers that Gul’s opinions were “absolutely wrong and thoroughly discredited”.

“When you look at the full spectrum of possibilities, who could have done it, then one knows that Samjhauta Express was a similar case, in which Pakistan ISI was accused. But it turned out that it was the militant Hindus themselves who had killed 68 passengers in that train, and that it was an inside job,” said Gul.

“Now Colonel Srikant Purohit, who is a serving army officer, he has been caught in this particular case. And the whole thing has turned around.”

“So, obviously, there is an inside job.”

The revelation that Mukhtar Ahmed, a “counterinsurgency police officer who may have been on an undercover mission” working for Indian authorities was arrested for illegally buying mobile phone cards used by the Mumbai gunmen, allied with the numerous intelligence warnings proving that the method, arrival and targets of attack were all known well in advance, proves Gul right in his assertion that the terrorists could not have achieved such carnage without help from people on the inside.

Asked by Zakaria, “What is your hunch as to who did - who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks?,” Gul responded, “Well, I have been on record, and I said it is the Zionists or the neocons. They have done it. It was an inside job.”

“And they wanted to go on the world conquerors. They were looking upon it as an opportunity window, when the Muslim world was lying prostrate. Russia was nowhere in sight. China was still not an economic giant that is has turned out to be.”

“And they thought that this was a good time to go and fill those strategic areas, which are still lying without any American presence. And, of course, to control the energy tap of the world.”

“Presently, it is the Middle East, and in future it is going to be Central Asia,” added Gul.

Gul told Zakaria that the evidence for 9/11 being planned by Osama Bin Laden and executed by Al-Qaeda has not emerged and that the events are still “shrouded in mystery”.

“A lot of people have a lot of misgivings about that. And it’s not only me. I think a lot of people in America would be thinking the same way. There are scientists, there are scholars, who have written articles on it,” added Gul, calling for President elect Barack Obama to set up a new commission to investigate the attacks.

Gul said the attacks were planned inside America by people with a dangerous agenda who have “turned the world upside-down”.

Returning from a commercial break, Zakaria, editor of Newsweek, Council on Foreign Relations kingpin and also a Trilateral Commission board member, told his viewers, “Some of General Gul’s views are simply false. There is a mountain of evidence about 9/11 that refutes his assertions,” but Zakaria failed to cite any of it.

Zakaria was then joined by counter-insurgency expert David Kilcullen who said that the Mumbai attacks bore all the hallmarks of a “clandestine operation or a covert operation style activity,” but when pressed he refused to directly implicate Pakistan in the attack

Just remember...

This guy is an intelligence pro, with long roots in the ISI milieu.

Take his pronouncements with a big grain of salt! If Osama is an employee of Western Intelligence, so is this turkey;

"Osama bin Laden's principal Pakistani adviser prior to 9/11 was retired Gen. Hamid Gul, a former ISI chief who is "strategic adviser" to the coalition of six politico-religious parties that governs two of Pakistan's four provinces. Known as MMA, the coalition also occupies 20 percent of the seats in the federal assembly in Islamabad. Hours after 9/11, Gul publicly accused Israel's Mossad of fomenting the 9/11 plot. Later, Gul said the U.S. Air Force must have been in on the conspiracy as no warplanes were scrambled to shoot down the hijacked airliners.

Gul spent two weeks in Afghanistan immediately prior to 9/11. He denied having met Osama bin Laden during that trip, but has always said he was an "admirer" of the al-Qaida leader. However, he did meet with Mullah Mohammad Omar, the Taliban leader, on several occasions.

Since 9/11, hardly a week goes by without Gul denouncing the U.S. in both the Urdu and English-language media.

In a conversation with this reporter in October 2001, Gul forecast a future Islamist nuclear power that would form a greater Islamic state with a fundamentalist Saudi Arabia after the demise of the monarchy.

Gul worked closely with the CIA during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan when he was in charge of ISI. He was "mildly" fundamentalist in those days, he explained after 9/11, and indifferent to the U.S. But he became passionately anti-American after the U.S. turned its back on Afghanistan following the Soviet withdrawal in 1989, and began punishing Pakistan with economic and military sanctions for its secret nuclear buildup.

A ranking CIA official, speaking not for attribution, said the agency considered Gul to be "the most dangerous man" in Pakistan. A senior Pakistani political leader, also speaking on condition his name not be used, said, "I have reason to believe Hamid Gul was Osama bin Laden's master planner."

Gradually we learn to read between the lines: Who is Logic?

The question is: whose story sounds more logic and believable? Fareed Zakaria’s belief in the official “Al-Qaeda & bin Laden did it”, or General Hamid Gul’s “fear and ambitions (of US MIC & Zionists) are the two things that came together”. Better yet, watch Ralph Schoenman quoting Hamid Gul at the 20 min mark of this : (found here: Towards the end of the 60min, a detailed version of the words Brzezinski used when warning the Senate committee on Foreign Relation of the real danger of a false flag in the US) Who is more credible?
We need to make a log on the politicians and journalists participating in spreading irrational belief in the terror meme: Here are some:

Who is more credible: Farid Zakaria hamering home the Al Qaeda meme, or bin Laden himself interviewed in the Ummat on Sept 28th 2001: bin Laden warned us already then about what was to come: He said: “The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which makes us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means that what the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear and helplessness." see the link and read how he then proposed that we ask the US “secret government” who was behind the attacks on New-York and Washington!

"unflinching, unswerving, fierce intellectual determination, as citizens, to define the real truth of our lives and our societies is a crucial obligation which devolves upon us all. It is in fact mandatory. If such a determination is not embodied in our political vision we have no hope of restoring what is so nearly lost to us - the dignity of man." (Harold Pinter)


I think Fareed Zakaria got way more than he was expecting in that interview, and certainly way more than he could handle.

We should try to leverage this interview every way we can.

I also think that General Gul knows that Pakistan is getting set up to take the fall for 9/11 and is on the list of U.S. targets in the growing "war on terror". Of course, he may just help that process along and walk off with his millions in heroin money.

Things are really starting to heat up, stay tuned.

Thanks for the post, constitutional911 !


The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

They can't...

Set up Pakistan for 9/11. If they were going to use the information regarding the ISI and 9/11, they would have done so already to justify the current strikes against them, and on top of that, we have been BEGGING "officials" for years to explain the connection, and they have REFUSED to do so. It was a question submitted to the 9/11 Commission by the families... in 2003. Could they honestly get away with using that information today, "as if no one knew about it," and use it to pin the blame on Pakistan? The ISI was seemingly protected today by the U.S. when it was reported that "US officials said there was no hard evidence linking Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) to the Mumbai attacks." Just like Dana Perino seemed to protect Pakistan here, and just like the U.S. protected Pakistan after the allegations of ISI involvement came after the 7/11/2006 bombings. I have always thought that if Pakistan is taken out for "terrorism," then the U.S. would go right along with them. As would most probably Britain, Saudi Arabia, and a few others.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

They can't?

They can't?

I agree that they probably wouldn't. However, consider....

Why can't they blame it partly on Pakistan? If the US decided to setup Pakistan for bombardment of it's nuclear weapons (that's assuming the US even knows where they are, of course), or even large-scale bombing of 'bona fide' terrorists (i.e., those who are not ultimately infiltrated and manipulated by Western intelligence), they may indeed expose a Pakistani connection.

Assuming further that the ISI only helped fund 911 via encouragement by the US, I would then expect the ISI to become apoplectic, and leak all kinds of interesting 911 information.

If we assume, instead, that the US was going to steer clear of 'new' 911 allegations against Pakistan, but still attempted to proceed with expanded military options that did not have the ISI's blessings, the ISI may still leak 911 info as a way to forestall such efforts. If the US followed through with military action, we could expect a concomittant information war, which would still lay blame for 911 partly on Pakistan, just later than in the other scenario.

Bottom line is: if push comes to shove, I expect the ISI to do what they think is best for Pakistan, not what the CIA wants them to do. If that means exposing the US side of things, and not just their own, that's the way it'll have to be.

I think people may be reasoning by analogy with, say, US influence in South America via School of the Americas trained assassins and torturers. (BTW, how's that working out for the US dark side, nowadays? Answer: Terribly. The South Americans are taking control of their own destiny. It's nice to see that democracy works well in some places.... ). But, the two situations are very, very different. I have to admit, though, I really know next to nothing about the ISI, so my speculative scenarios may not be worth much. Maybe Armitage is phenomenally charming in person. :-)

They do whatever they think they can get away with...

OK, here is my simple math without all this cluttering crapola...remember, they have boasted of "creating their own reality"...and this isn't an example?

So, here we go...

...Can't blame Afghanistan because we are on their OBL-cave-dialysis-actor-maybe dead guy trail big time...

...Cant' EVER blame need to start THAT lengthy rant...

...Can't blame India...too many credit card calls to keep opened up...

...Can't blame Iraq...even the ding dong says we can't do that now...

...Can't blame Iran because we knocked the HI PERPS out of their false-flag-ops "they gotta big bomb" thing ...and its just too convenient right now anyway...

...Cant' blame Syria because they have a hard time putting one foot ahead of the other...

...Can't blame Brittain or the MI5...they hold too much of our debt...and the BBC World Radio Report is broadcast from Bush House and doing that would be impolite...

...Can't blame the US Intel agencies, the Bush Crime Family, the Pentagon, or US Neocons because WE just don't do things like that to ourselves even IF there are BILLIONS to profit...come on, we're America..get real...killing millions-never!!!

...Can't blame Quatar because we can't find it on the map...

...Can't blame Saudi Arabia because we simply don't blame Saudi Arbia...simple as that...nuff said...

So, Its down to blaming Canada, Australia,or Pakistan...

My advice here...DUCK my Pakistani friends...errr...patsies...its been in the cards from the outset...and a special person in San Diego has been making this point for a long, long time, its not Pakistan either...must be one of the other countries...but if I were in Pakistan, I'd still duck...the big "O" election bomb is locked and loaded...

Seems that the HI PERPS are into either plan "B", "C", "D", or "E" about who to blame for 9/11 because their little scheme is loosing its wheels.

Its kinda like what they had to do when AA77 and UA93 departed too late to keep intact the excuse of: "Well, it all happened so fast that we couldn't get the interceptors up"...and "Sure, this is the REAL FDR for AA77"...well, they all had to create some solutions on the run...just like what's going on right now...

Hey, who has the most hydrocarbon stuff over there?...OK, well its definitely NOT them!


Robin Hordon

Thanks for posting this

I think it shows how complicated this whole bad wedding really is.

Let's start leveraging this by contacting Fareed Zakaria

and letting him know that General Gul is not the only one who questions the OCT.

and Newsweek:

Newsweek Domestic Edition
Letters to the Editor for the U.S. print edition:
Mailing Address:
251 W. 57th St.
New York, NY 10019

This should be more fun and possibly more productive than trying to get to be honest.


The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.


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Thanks for the additional contact info!

You rock!

Love is a verb, brothers and sisters, and together we can make real change happen.

Cheers, Orangutan!

The truth shall set us free, but we have to get it out there.

Love is the only way forward.

Citizens will be skeptical of "The Man"

Any average citizen of the good ole USofA, or around the world who may watch this interaction, or may read about it, will have a far greater skepticism towards both the news organizations, and "The Man" as us old 60s-70s activists coined, than they will have skepticism about what others may be stating about such "false-flag-ops" and Intel generated massacres.

We are doing pretty well gang...

...and because we are standing tall and refusing to go away as we demand the truth, we give hope to others around the world that there are some REALLY GOOD people in the USofA...some people that are just not taking the government's lies any more...

...and this gives them even more courage to speak the truth to the world when they have the opportunity.

All these agents of "The Man" are going to have a harder and harder time corraling us "9/11 cats"...and moreso, denying the TRUTH as time goes on. A very good example of this being Taibbi vs Griffin....

GEESH...what a masacre of Taibbi...not to mention that he brought his own weapons against himself into the match...his blind ignorance!

And for the younger Truther might become an interesting conversation on the streets with some of the grayhairs if you RESPECTFULLY ask them what "The Man" meant to them "back in the day".

Maybe this conversation will bridge them into "your new day" unbelievably important bridge I must say...

Love, Peace and Progress

Robin Hordon

PS: This is the type of a conversation that maybe should'nt be orchastrated with a bullhorn?...a nice chat would do just fine...rdh

Gul is not gullable

Amazing that Farheed asks about who perpetrated 9/11 and because Gul wants to say alive he doesn't name who the perpetrators are but he probably knows. Gul's logic is so simple, too - because the US hasn't charged anyone with crimes for 9/11 it must have been planned here. And, my gripe is that it should have been standard military procedure to court martial individuals for failure to protect the air space.

Why can't either one of them say Osama is dead? Bhutto died because she utterred these words.

I am gonna spread this to American Pakistani groups...

I think General Gul spoke very well on this issue. This is an excellent opportunity to spread "9/11 Truth" to the Pakistani Americans. I encourage others to forward this to Pakistani groups and publications and news services in their region. I know in the Dallas area there are many, many thousands of Pakistani heritage.

Done! I just finished emailing mosques and publications...

I just finished emailing mosques and publications in the Dallas area and also some throughout the country. I encourage others to do the same.

I think this was just released...

Former ISI official linked to al-Qaida


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Dec. 8 (UPI) -- A former member of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence served as a weapons consultant for al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden, a secret report reveals.

A U.S. report to the U.N. Security Council obtained by the Pakistani media outlet The News (NYSE:WS-A) identifies retired Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul as a financier to militant Taliban elements and al-Qaida fighters in Afghanistan.

"In 2005, Hamid Gul provided general, overarching guidance to the Taliban leadership on operational activities in Afghanistan," the report said.

Further vetting from The Long War Journal finds that Gul served with the outlawed Umman Tameer-e-Nau network as an adviser to the Taliban and al-Qaida for weapons of mass destruction.

UTN is linked to the WAFA Humanitarian Organization, an al-Qaida front used to transfer funds to militant terrorist cells. Its founder, Bashir-ud-Din Mahmood, formerly served as a top official in the Pakistani nuclear program.

The document obtained by The News shows Gul was active as late as 2008 in providing Pakistani militants with advice on how best to coordinate attacks in the tribal regions along the volatile Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

Washington has reported Gul, along with four other former ISI officials, to the United Nations in an effort to list the men as international terrorists.

The News report comes amid concerns the Pakistani ISI was linked to the November attacks by the militant Lashkar-e-Toiba in Mumbai, which killed 164 people.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

Damn! That was fast!

The ink isn't even dry on old Hamid's latest screed, and media wheels are spinning against him.

Gul is up to his neck in shit. He should not be making any waves. He knows who built the Mujahideen and where the money came from.

The Muj in Afghanistan wouldn't even exist without the CIA, the ISI and Saudi Arabia's GID all working together to build the "Afghan Foreign Legion". He can't escape this history, and he knows it.

It's useful to note that UPI is a news product under the control of Rev. Moon;

And Rev. Moon? That brother is off the chart;

As I said above, Gen. Gul is either part of the set-up

on Pakistan or trying to get out in front of it.

This man knows where A LOT of the bodies are buried (possibly including Osama's, which may only be frozen, not very Islamic).

Sen. Obama has already threatened to strike at Pakistan and pinning partial responsibility for 9/11on Pakistan is the second most desperate limited hangout, with Bush Cheney being the final limited hangout.

[ The Saudi's may or may not be on the limited hangout list, with the corrupt royals moving out with their billions just before their oil fields collapse]

We need to make sure everyone knows that the CIA and the ISI are like older and younger brothers. The heroin money is everywhere, especially in Wall Street, and the Fed just keeps printing money to "monetize it" (talk about financial instruments!).

Love is a verb, brothers and sisters, let's get busier.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Surprised they initially used Rev. Moon's UPI to discredit Gul

You knew the minute Gul said the neocons were responsible for 9/11, the smear job would begin within milliseconds. Since the neo-cons themselves seem to be out of the work of govenance for a little while, they don't have anything better to do but jump on the phone the instant their names get brought up in relation to the sins they committed and get those accusers lynched in whatever mass media they still can pull the strings.

Kinda surprised they used Rev. Moon's UPI first, though. UPI connections with Moon and the neo-cons have become fairly well know, and stories that run there first don't get picked up by other media sources as they did a while ago.

The neocons (globalists) are STILL in power


To me, the term 'neocon' means that they are group of globalist-criminals masquerading as so-called "conservatives" or Republicans.

I know we can get specific and mention the Strauss/PNAC stuff, but you all know that information already.

Many of them have "conservative" rhetoric or have an 'R' by their name, but they are still going to push their agenda of building their New World Order, but with the added bonus of making trillions in defense contracts and oil.

The globalist-criminals (no matter what name you put on them) are STILL firmly entrenched, and will remain entrenched until the American people awake from their slumber.

They can't explain the Mineta Testimony:

Ron Paul explains position on 9/11 on FMNN's Pat Gorman Show - 6-21-07:

It's incorrect to define any globalist as a neocon

A globalist view of government only defines scale of government one believes in. It does not define type of government. For example, the planetary government of the Gene Roddenberry's fictional future Star Trek setting most certainly would not be considered "neo-conservative." It's a planetary democracy in which war between the nations of the world and poverty has been abolished. You can make whatever comments you like regarding how naive you think Roddenberry was in his outlook, but that's a different discussion. Roddenberry clearly had a democratic globalist vision.

Fascist? Communist? Totalitarian? Democratic? Those are types of government. Neoconservative is a specific type of fascism established and defined by it's own statements on the PNAC website. It's very similar to the fascism of Franco's Spain.

Get ready to hear people say, "he's blaming the Jews"


I posted this article on several forums today to see if any bleating-sheep would respond.

Here's what I got:

".................He blames the Jews?

Wow, what a surprise.

Maybe you can purchase a gas chamber along with the MRE's from one of your survivalist catalogues..........."

To which I responded:

"........He didn't blame the Jews.

Zionists AREN'T "The Jews" - and likewise, the mob isn't the Italians.

There are Jews who are against the Zionists:

If I am wrong, why does the following site exist?

True Torah Jews Against Zionism:

So are the above Jews anti-Semitic?

I DARE someone to get in their faces and tell THEM that.

So PLEASE don't try to make the leap that being against the actions of a FEW mean you are against an entire race or religion.

It's a red herring.

It's almost the same logic people use that if you oppose any of Obama's policies that you are somehow "racist".........."

They can't explain the Mineta Testimony:

Ron Paul explains position on 9/11 on FMNN's Pat Gorman Show - 6-21-07:

Fareed Zakaria, real malicious fellow there :rollseyes:

Fareed Zakaria, real malicious fellow there :rollseyes:

Zakaria and CNN know exactly what they are doing

Simultaneously "setting up" Pakistan and the 9/11 truth movement

Notice how Zakaria frames the segment:

"I should warn you. Some of his views are shocking. On 9/11 in particular, he says some things that I, for one, think are absolutely wrong and thoroughly discredited. But I thought it was important that you hear them, given the position he has held."

"Let me reiterate what I said at the outset. Some of General Gul's views are simply false. There is a mountain of evidence about 9/11 that refutes his assertions."

And where does this al Qaeda "terrorist" supporter get his dangerous ideas?

"I think a lot of people in America would be thinking the same way. There are scientists, there are scholars, who have written articles on it."

H Res 1955?

“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson

Alex Jones just interviewed Gul live, unedited..must listen.

12/09/08 Alex Jones just interviewed Gul live for almost an entire hour, unedited. This ran in the first hour of his show which aired from 11:00AM CST-12:00PMCST. I am sure it will soon be posted on his website . I won't attempt to paraphrase it here. I trust that someone will post the audio here when it becomes available. Alex said he would rerun the interview in its entirety in tomorrow's show.

I just listened to this...

Clearly he is protecting Pakistan. He said Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed is good friends with him, and he categorically denies the charges of the $100,000 wire transfer. Ok. Then why was the subject dropped off the face of the Earth with absolutely no investigation, or comment on it? Why was he sacked? Why wasn't he brought forward to testify about the allegation under oath? Why did Thomas Kean say, "I'm not aware of the $100,000 wire transfer to Mohammad Atta" when he was confronted by Alex Jones' team even though it was a question submitted by the families on March 13th, 2003? The fact that it wasn't investigated by the Commission made Lorie Van Auken "irate." Why are there allegations of another "terrorist attack" involving both Saeed Sheikh and Lt. General Mahmood Ahmed? Why is he mentioned in Sibel Edmonds' allegations for participating in the nuclear black market? Why does Levy write extensive allegations regarding Saeed Sheikh and Ahmed? Why would someone like Mariane Pearl, someone deeply connected to Saeed Sheikh write in her book that she "read a news report from October that claimed the FBI had found "credible links" between Omar Saeed Sheikh and then director of the ISI Lieutenant General Mahmood Ahmed. It was alleged that it was Ahmed who instructed Omar to wire the $100,000 to Mohammad Atta. I read too that disclosure of this finding led to Ahmed's dismissal as the head of the ISI by President Musharraf on October 7, 2001. So it appears Omar may have been associated with both the head of ISI and Al Qaeda" if she didn't think the allegations were credible? Why was Danny Pearl murdered? Sorry, but I'm more inclined to believe an obviously bias individual like Hamid Gul would want to protect his "good friend" Ahmed.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

They are ALL

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

General Hameed Gul Interview from 9/14/2001

"The attacks on New York and Washington were an Israeli-engineered attempt at a coup against the government of the United States"

General Hameed Gul was director general of the Pakistani Intelligence Services ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) and a close ally of America, working hand in hand with the American CIA. Gul was also a great supporter of the "American Way Of Life" and Western democracy. General Gul turned against America for betrayal and countless broken promises.