Obama and 9/11

(EDIT: please also see this related blog at American's Journey: Now what Exactly was the change you Obama voters hoped for?)

(Via Michael Hasty's "Radical Pantheist" blog)

http://radicalpantheist.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-and-911.html

Although I was as happy as most Americans that Barack Obama took the oath of office last week, rather than his Republican alternative, there is a major reason that he did not get my vote in November, which went instead to Cynthia McKinney: Obama is unlikely to re-open an investigation into what really happened on September 11, 2001—an investigation that needs to happen.

According to polls, about four in ten Americans are suspicious that the Bush administration was complicit in the 9/11 attacks—either by deliberately ignoring intelligence that warned an attack was coming and allowing the terrorists to strike, to gain public support for the neoconservative foreign policy agenda of increasing American military power in the Middle East; or by actively coordinating the attacks themselves, for the same reason. As Time magazine, in a rare acknowledgement of the 9/11 truth movement, said: “This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality.”

It’s easy to understand, however, why a majority of Americans have such a hard time getting their minds around the idea that their government may have some involvement in such a horrendous crime. Americans are conditioned from an early age to think of themselves as “the good guys,” living in a “democracy”—which, however imperfect, has always been primarily motivated by the desire to advance the core national principle of “freedom,” both at home and abroad. And the actions of the government are closely monitored by a diligent “free press.”

It’s a civics class myth. Yet this myth has the emotional resonance that comes with also being at the heart of what sociologists call America’s “civil religion.” And the myth was especially encouraged among us presently living generations of Americans, the citizens of the post-World War II national security state—although there has obviously been a greater public distrust of government since the Vietnam War and Watergate. The Bush administration brought this distrust to new heights, lying about everything to genocidal effect. But still, many people want to believe that the Bush mob was just too incompetent to have pulled off a sophisticated attack like 9/11 (although non-state actors living in caves in Afghanistan, half a world away, were perfectly capable)...

Continued...
http://radicalpantheist.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-and-911.html

Subpoena Served on Karl Rove... ~ January 26, 2009 ~

House subpoenas Karl Rove over US Attorney firings, political prosecutions ~ by John Byrne
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CONYERS_SUBPOENAS_KARL_ROVE_0126.html

The subpoena, approved by an earlier vote of the House, was issued pursuant to "authority granted in H.R. 5 (111th Congress), and calls for Mr. Rove to appear at deposition on Monday, February 2, 2009."

Specifically, it enjoins Rove "to testify regarding his role in the Bush Administration’s politicization of the Department of Justice, including the US Attorney firings and the prosecution of former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman."

“I have said many times that I will carry this investigation forward to its conclusion, whether in Congress or in court, and today’s action is an important step along the way,” Conyers said in a release. “Change has come to Washington, and I hope Karl Rove is ready for it. After two years of stonewalling, it’s time for him to talk.”

one reason cynthia did not get my vote..

barack got my vote partly because i was not expecting any one politician to do anything about 9/11 truth.

and if there was one politician that would.. before they could be successful.. something would happen

why am i the only poster of the closest campaign to really getting an independent investigation without any politician's leadership,
or media support.. the good ole referendum vote confronting the city where 3 high-rise buildings fell at free fall speeds..
with two planes being blamed for it, and a clear cover-up of the truth?!?

the people in nyc are ready.. and 30,000 petitioners assure that this will happen..
and with the work of committed volunteers and Commissioners..

please plan on joining a 9/11 8th anniversary in nyc to help support this campaign.
9/11/09 falls on a friday!

IT CAN HAPPENE - www.nyc911initiative.org

Petition for 2009 Referendum Vote
http://www.nyc911initiative.org/PetitionFinal-01M.pdf
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CONSEQUENCES OF 9/11
http://files.meetup.com/300645/9-11%20Consequences%20Flowchart.pdf
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Note too my article The Old American Dream-hope Obama

jonathan

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Barack and Michelle Obama AND Biden confronted on 911

FLASHBACK! : Obama Addresses 9/11 Government Complicity

http://911blogger.com/node/19134

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Legal Actions Needed.

This is a great piece that pretty much lays it out. I resist the temptation to believe that Obama, or his Justice Department or his administration in any way shape or form will pull for another 9/11 investigation, or be pressured to do so. To expect them to do so will very likely lead to deep frustration. The country is sinking. They have their hands full with immediate problems of grave consequence. We have to become pro-active instead. I think the most effective strategy is keep doing what we're doing AND take a lesson from David Ray Griffin's new book "9/11 Contradictions". This book is actually an effective document for numerous legal actions. Our scientific, engineering, professional pilots and architectural colleagues are providing a similar body of work that can be used in legal proceedings.

As a prime strategy, the 9/11 Truth movement has to start thinking in terms of initiating or supporting a wide range of lawsuits aimed at agencies and individuals who have demonstrably covered up or otherwise lied about any and all aspects to the 9/11 investigations. Griffin's book is a blueprint for this. Similarly, the NIST reports and their authors are potential targets for more investigations and possible legal actions. The legal action is the best and perhaps the only way at this point in time, to compel a detailed look into the anatomy of what really happened on September 11, 2001. Dr. William Pepper is a valuable pioneer in this type of action and a valuable resource. We need to put our heads together and figure out a successful fund raising strategy to enable this plan. I believe that if we demonstrate a coherent action plan endorsed by top legal minds, that the money will come. Coordinate, cohere, monetize and prevail.

Coordinate, cohere, monetize and prevail

http://www.l911t.com/

A Coherent Effort. One,United, Unwavering will get us there.

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Legislation Introduced by Conyers and others...

Support H.R. 104: Establish a National Commission to Investigate the Bush Administrations War Crimes
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.104:

Good videos that expose Obama

Alex Jones Speaks Out on Obama’s Team
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=19esfWGZIys

The Obama Deception - A Film by Alex Jones
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Od8bcCvX3jU

Obama's Unconstitutional Agenda - Plan For A New World Order
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=_1R8vRB-qeU

Bush Voter Redeems himself.. Now Blames Obama Voters??

Hard to trust the political analysis of anyone who voted for Bush in 2000. And voting for Ron Paul in 2008 makes no sense. Ron Paul didn't even want to be president. That isn't a path to success in my opinion.

Obama Cannot Deliver 9-11 Truth

Sadly, no matter how much Obama might like to investigate 9-11 or expose the cover-up, he cannot. It is no accident that the mainstream media, traditional lefty media, and well-known established investigative journalists have steered clear of asking any of the questions posed in your overview. Ask yourself, did the neo-cons also plant the bombs in London, Madrid, Bali, and Mumbai, and then silence the media in those countries as well?

Those bombings carry the same eerie coincidences and contradictions as 9-11 because they are all part of the same effort to create a "global war on terror." I can't pretend to know the motives behind the need to create a new global enemy, but just mulling over that question one can come up with several likely scenarios.

So, the point is, 9-11 has to be much bigger than just Bush and his cronies. There is a global operation, and a global cover-up, and the powerful forces behind it are not going to allow it to be exposed.

Ask yourself, would anybody undertake such dastardly crimes if they thought there was any chance of them being found out and prosecuted? They hold all the cards and control all the debate.

But what about the left? Why don't progressive journalists expose this? Again, there is no way I can say for sure. Perhaps they fear that any such revelation would so traumatize the public that government would forever be stigmatized as an evil to be distrusted and even eliminated, and thereby undermine and forever derail the progressives' agenda for government. It has been shown that a cynical public is not healthy for democracy, and tends to favor the rightwing.

Finally, it may just be that the left doesn't want to spoil its present position at the table of influence. Either by associating itself with 'irrational conspiracists' or distracting the public from its more pressing concerns (like healthcare?), it seems the left has chosen to look away from any concerns about 9-11. And because the anti-Bush progressive media (that has screamed loudly about the Downing Street memo, Iraq, Blackwater, torture, Gitmo, renditions, and so forth) hasn't written one word questioning the Bush administration's version of 9-11, most lefties are led to believe the absence of such reporting is evidence that there is nothing more about 9-11 to uncover. Discussing 9-11 "conspiracies" is simply a distraction designed to discredit the left. Consequently, mentioning 9-11-related matters is enough to get you removed from many prominent progressive blogs and sites. Go ahead, try.

And if the progressive blogs don't want to look at 9-11, what makes us think a moderately progressive Obama will be any different? With a Democrat in the Oval Office and majorities in both houses, the Democrats may feel that they finally have the upper hand, and the last thing they need is to piss off the power elite by exposing their operations.

By the way, prosecuting any Bushie for anything would potentially risk exposing the 9-11 cover-up and opening up a messy international can of worms. So I don't think we'll be seeing any meaningful investigations down the road. And given that our leaders are saying they want to avoid partisan divisiveness, our only hope of finding the truth may be a "Truth and Reconciliation" committee as Kucinich has suggested, that can side-step any appearance of partisanship. Hopefully the amnesty provided would have government whistleblowers jumping out of the woodwork to disclose their involvement in secret agendas.

The people ultimately hold the cards.

If we wake up enough people and they speak out, the elites and the media will have to deal with it.

Exactly

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"I can't pretend to know the

"I can't pretend to know the motives behind the need to create a new global enemy, but just mulling over that question one can come up with several likely scenarios."

The motive is for PROFIT for the GLOBAL Military Industrial Complex / GLOBAL Security State.

"So, the point is, 9-11 has to be much bigger than just Bush and his cronies."

Yes. Much much bigger

"There is a global operation, and a global cover-up, and the powerful forces behind it are not going to allow it to be exposed."

It has already been exposed. That is why we have 911Blogger.com , ae911Truth.org, patriotsquestion911.com, truthactuion.org etc etc.

"They hold all the cards and control all the debate"

No they don't. We do have friends. In high places. The undercurrents are very deep. The Republic was not built in a day. Neither is it going to be Restored in a day.

"By the way, prosecuting any Bushie for anything would potentially risk exposing the 9-11 cover-up and opening up a messy international can of worms. So I don't think we'll be seeing any meaningful investigations down the road."

You're probably right. But it is still worth a try. This is a war of inches. Every inch gained counts. It is also war about Winning Hearts & Minds.

"Hopefully the amnesty provided would have government whistleblowers jumping out of the woodwork to disclose their involvement in secret agendas."

A Very Important Key.

Regardless, we still have much to do. As long as we stay focused, persistent and keep our faith, Victory is inevitable. Patience is probably the hardest aspect of our task at hand and I can understand the sentiments of those who feel more progress should be visible.

Personally I think many cracks are appearing on the Dams of Deception that have been built around too many of us.

Its a matter of time.

Expect them to try again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MySoHSWRrZc

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Another take on Obama

Alex Jones' perspective

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm1BcvwtoPE&eurl=http://www.infowars.com/...

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