Jones vs. Obama

Ten trillion dollars looted in a matter of months, the imminent collapse of the US economy, mandatory compulsory "national security" paramilitary "service" openly demanded... Is it worth 2 hours of your time to investigate these matters critically?

Alex Jones' new documentary is out, online for free. Jones tends to be hyperbolic and acerbic.

If, however, even ten percent of what he says is true, we are fucked.

Note on this film.

Several users have posted this new Alex Jones flick in the blogs section. It will not be going on the front page, and definitely falls under this disclaimer at the top of the blogs section;

"Content in this section should not be interpreted as being supported by, or by any other members of this site, and should only be viewed as a posting of the individual who created it."

Here is why; in the summer of 2007 I posted the "Kennebunkport Warning" here at without thoroughly fact-checking the document. In the wake of the posting there were accusations of fraud swirling around the document, and counter-accusations aired in NYC on 9/11, 2007 (and elsewhere) that were completely unfounded, summarized here by YT over at;

The new Alex Jones video is out and I wanted to post a brief note explaining why it won't be promoted on this site. Unfortunately, Jones chose to feature prominently in his video an individual who has repeatedly and viciously attacked Cindy Sheehan, myself, and a number of other truth and peace activists. These attacks included - but were not limited to - accusing me of being a terrorist, proclaiming that shares the same values as al Qaeda (!?), alleging that I take marching orders from the FBI and money from the Ford Foundation and commissioning a professional cartoon to illustrate the aforementioned slander along with the implication of intravenous drug abuse.

While these accusations were somewhat hilarious in their ridiculous nature, they were also quite ugly and damaging and in fact fed into a months-long campaign of video attacks that bore the distinctive foul air of a psychological operation.

I imagine the Jones film will have plenty of valuable information and this decision should not be taken as an attempt to suppress the material (as if that would even be remotely possible). But simply as a matter of principle, there is no way in hell that this site will be promoting this blatant disinformationist who, to this day, has never retracted nor apologized for his laundry list of lies.

There is no ban on discussion of the film or its contents, only on headlines and direct links or embeds.

Since users have submitted the google link multiple times, and will undoubtedly continue to do so over the next few days, I post this single link to the video for site users who would want to know about it.

From an editorial perspective, I am very cautious about posting any claims from Mr. Tarpley (since the Kennebunkport warning), that cannot be verified by independent research.

Also note that this is NOT an invitation to re-open debate about the Kennebunkport Warning, but is posted merely to explain why it's not on the front-page.

Thanks for posting this! I was not aware of all this data...

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For those who missed the KW accusations by Webster Tarpley, please see:

What boggles my mind is how can anyone who is aware of the ridiculous attacks by Tarpley against myself and my good friends Cosmos, Jon Gold, Arabesque and Jenny Sparks, could take anything that this man says seriously?

He accused us of being COINTELPRO agents, funded by the Ford Foundation, complete with FBI marching orders without a shred of evidence. Furthermore, he has never responded or retracted his imbecilic rhetoric despite demands by me and others to show us the "evidence". Tarpley's buffoonish behavior should not go unchallenged by "truth" seekers, especially someone like Alex Jones. This film, and Alex Jones' support of Tarpley (which also includes selecting Tarpley as a guest AND guest host for his show) is disappointing at best.

Webster Tarpley Attacks 9-11 Activists on the Genesis World Report
Full audio of the 2nd hour here:

Cartoonish Attacks on 9-11 Activists Actually Emerge as a Cartoon!

Webster Tarpley Attacks 9-11 Activists on 6th Anniversary in NYC

If you drag the play indicator to one hour and 33 minute mark, you can witness the outrageous ad hominem attacks for yourself.

If there was any doubt that the artist who drew the cartoon above was in the employ of Webster Tarpley, check out the cover of his new book:

The cartooist is Joseph Azar

Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography (Paperback)
by Webster G. Tarpley (Author), Jos. Azar (Illustrator)

People need to know.


It is a shame that Tarpley is included. He doesn't seem to say anything about 9/11, as I recall.

Tarpley is also suspect because his book "Synthetic Terror" includes the first published instance of "directed energy weapons" which he promotes there.

So yes, be very leery of Webster Tarpley as a source.

Most of the Obama Deception is solid information.


Yes I agree

The Obama Deception is a very good documentary despite Tarpley's presence. Note there are others interviewed who make very good points especially George Humphrey,Gerald Celente, KRS-One, Public Enemy- Prof. Griffin, Jesse Ventura, Willie Nelson, Jim Tucker, Daniel Estulin etc.

So lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

From what I understand Alex Jones does not want to get caught up in the feuds and disagreements between various elemenst of the Truth Movement.

Considering his role as an Alternative Media Journalist hoping to expose the tyrants of the day, I can understand his position. Alex has never attacked the people from Truth Action and has supported close friends of Truth Action like WeAreChange etc.

Get more info from the PrisonPlanet Forum.

The Obama Deception is one of the best AJ Films, creating enough stir that the FBI started harrasing his office this past week trying to locate his servers etc. Hence AJ released the film early on Wed. It has gone viral over the Web.

I am suggesting we need to mature up and realise we have to work together with people who will have disagreements with us. Internal Conflicts should not prevent us from seeing the bigger picture.

This documentary was released very early in Obama's Presidency. I myself did not know at least 10 TRILLION dollars have been stolen by his Presidency since Jan 20th.

Stimulus Plans are nothing but complete robbery of national assets.

There is good research material bought up by a myriad of activists at

Truthers will be advised to have a look at AJ's new documentary. It is not perfect but an excellent tool to wake up at least some people about the Obama Cult.

This Presidency WILL be 10X worst than the Bush Administration.

Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria in the crosshairs especially with the GrandChessboard Playmaker pulling the strings. Moving troops to Afghanistan - thus sandwiching Iran IS not withdrawing from the war in Iraq. Its just castling the pieces.

There are tens if not at least a 100K Mercs in rotation in Iraq & Afghanistan. With OFFICIAL US military REDEPLOYMENTS (that we know about) going into Afghanistan and yes into Pakistan we will have War without End.

PNAC is still being executed. Bush is out of the office, but the Plan is not.

Watch the last 30-35 mins if you cannot stand Tarpley. Its available freely on the Web and it is a good summary of the Deception Obama is involved in.

We have a world class deceiver in the White House, a smooth snake-oil salesman. Very Dangerous This documentary is timely and with an early launch can be used to at least warn die hard Obama supporters. They may not believe us at 1st, but give it 6-12 mths and they will start asking us questions and questioning their own blind faith in "Change We can Believe In".

This is an Early Strike and I am sure WILL INSPIRE many other Full and sub-documentaries about THE OBAMA DECEPTION (without Tarpley's presence)

Keep the baby.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it


"I myself did not know at least 10 TRILLION dollars have been stolen by his Presidency since Jan 20th."

Nowhere is this alleged. The raiding of the treasury started on BUSH'S WATCH, before the election of 2008. This claim "since Jan 20th" is completely bogus.



Is not promoted or endorsed by me because during the Kennebunkport Warning fiasco (which incidentally resulted in a huge divide in this movement) he accused me (Cosmos, Col. Jenny Sparks, Michael Wolsey, Arabesque) of being COINTELPRO in front of an audience during an anniversary. Simply because I got mad that he referred to Cindy Sheehan as a "wretched individual." I never received any kind of apology.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

More Obama Deception

Obama Justice Dept. defends Rumsfeld in torture case

Rachel Oswald
Published: Friday March 13, 2009

Exclusive: Attorney had hoped Obama admin would take 'stronger moral stance' on torture
In a brief filed Thursday evening, Obama Justice Department lawyers extended many of the same arguments made by Bush attorneys -- that top government officials have qualified immunity from prosecution and that Guantanamo detainees do not have constitutional rights to due process.

The Department of Justice has asserted that a Supreme Court ruling reaffirming the rights of Guantanamo detainees to habeas corpus does not apply to plaintiffs in a case against former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld because the plaintiffs were released from prison four years prior to the Supreme Court's decision.......

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

More on the Deception of Obama

AIG Paying Out Tens Of Millions In Bonuses Despite Numerous Federal Bailouts

Washington Post | David Cho | 03/14/09

Despite receiving $170 billion in federal aid and recording a staggering loss for the last quarter, insurance giant American International Group is doling out tens of million of dollars in bonuses this week to senior employees.

Read the whole story: Washington Post :

Here is a good sample of the type of comments at Huffington Post

From : usedtowander

OBAMA and Geithner just keep giving our tax money away to Wall Street bankers.

OBAMA and Geithner have no power over these guys - and just keep throwing more good money after bad.

Nationalize these companies or stop giving them money.

These executives are simply con men who are taking tax money.
Why is there no investigation of this? Felony?

My point. Even at such a shamelessly Pro-Obama site like Huffington Post there are numerous comments on the flip-flops, discrepancies and sheer double-speak of the Obama administration. Note we are not even past the 1st quarter and PEOPLE at major sites that SUPPORT HIM are asking SERIOUS Questions.

So lets the info out to people. Obama is a False Flag Change and Hope Operation altogether.

The glass house of deception is cracking and very soon in his Presidency.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Appears to be solid

I just watched it and recommend it.

I understand that Tarpley has said some clearly indefensible things related to the fiasco mentioned here, which I didn't follow closely at the time. Still, what he says in Alex's documentary seems to be to the point.

9/11 is hardly mentioned in the entire documentary. It is not about that.

Webster Tarpley is less than credible, to put it nicely

Webster Tarpley has not only just turned his back on the 9/11 Truth movement, he has openly attacked and slandered some of the most dedicated activists in the movement. Not to open that discussion here, but I encourage everyone to go to our website and do a few searches on the matter. Tarpley still refuses to address his foul behavior, so until he does that, I will continue to regard his comments as not credible whether they be about the economy, 9/11 or anything else. In this movement called "truth," you must show the quality your moral fabric or be prepared to be set aside by the rest of us. We cannot afford to be caught up in these so-called personalities like Webster Tarpley, especially when they seem to be quite educated, if they themselves cannot take responsibility for their own behavior, or if they cannot treat other truth seekers with respect and dignity.

I challenge Webster Tarpley to answer to his past behavior. His comments are well-documented should he have a lapse in memory. Until this happens, Tarpley will only be looked at through a lens of skepticism. He should realize this by now. It would be very easy for him to set all of this straight.

Admittedly, I do not follow Alex Jones that much. But, perhaps those of you that do, should ask Alex to explain why he decided to go with someone that could easily jeopardize the credibility of this film, which is coming at a time when we need to desperately reach people with credible and substantiated evidence about President Obama's connections with the international banking cartel.

V for Visibility!

Great film

I agree let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

This film is an excellent expose despite the presence of Tarpley. Just as "Terrorstorm" was an excellent expose despite the presence of Morgan Reynolds and David Shayler.

Yes, but

there is nothing much that he has not said before, although he promises to expose names, and leaves out stuff that is essential:

Too much emphasis on CFR, BilderB, etc...This is a distraction.

Nothing about the REAL question: Who actually did 911?
Nothing about the Neocon Zionist cabal of the Mossad and CIA.

Over-all, old wine in a new bottle I would say. Tarply acting as distinguished historian host:
No problem, but what he and AJ leave out is disconcerting.

What it boils.........

down to is simple. There may be something to the NWO, however i think we have more than ample information to expose the corruption we have in power. We need to focus on combining all our assets, and resources to educate all Americans.
When this happens we will achieve the results we are looking for. More so the results America needs.

A Number of the North Texas Group are in the film...

at the Dallas "End the Fed" Rally around the 57:00 mark.

We gave out 300 copies of several films including Zeitgeist Pt 2&3 (9/11 and the Fed), America from Freedom to Fascism+911 Mysteries.

North Texans for 911 Truth
North Texans for 911 Truth Meetup Site

Tarpley has 2 Obama books

Has anyone researched or verified the information in his books? (books, which I assume some of the information was taken from for use in The Obama Deception during the Tarpley parts). This may hold the key to getting to the truth. As truth seekers, we must be as aggressive against the mainstream media as we are on the alternative media when in question.