Daily Kos - "thousands of site users can't be wrong"

Following the posting of Inky99's blog entry, Official story of 9/11 "almost entirely untrue", a follow-up blog was posted by longtime site user, Tocquedeville, entitled, The Conspiracy Theorist Label. Despite Tocquedeville's popularity on the site, he was banned, merely for pointing out the obvious;

"The conspiracy theorist label is the cleverest tool the conspirators have come up with to deter the people from investigating and questioning their (the people's) own government.

The truth is, the greatest threat to our national security is not an external foe, but the secrecy of our own government. Secrecy mis-justified by the claim that it is in the interest of national security. How convenient for the profiteers of the national security state."

Although Tocquedeville ultimately relies on the blowback hypothesis, his opening comment is 100% valid, and true. Now, user Bidet has posted this; Daily Kos diarist, Tocquedeville, has been banned. This diary is a petition to get him unbanned. Inky99's blog garnered over 1000 comments, the same as Tocquedeville's diary. However, the diary entry calling for the reinstatement of Tocquedeville has collected over 2500 comments as of 0622 Central Time today, and the poll has over 8200 votes, with a 2 to 1 majority asking for the unbanning of Tocquedeville.

I haven't posted anything at Kos in over a year, but when I posted a poll along with Dem Bruce Lee Styles' video, here, I got a nearly 7 to 1 positive response for asking this simple question; "Was 9/11 adequately investigated?"

It's been nearly 3 years since Kos put his policy in place, which is apparently completely out of step with his own user base. Perhaps, with enough vocal, logical, powerful participation on Kos, he will re-think his policy.

I doubt it, but it's the "Hope and Change" era, is it not?



Nothing to say....I hear ya! F%^K HIM!!

Let it go....

Become the media...and let them go...

Lets make our own space for it's time for change; that is the changing of the guard.

9/11 24/7 UNTIL JUSTICE!!

When the majority...

Wants one thing, and the minority refuses to listen, and instead, does something else, then there must be a selfish or corrupt reason why.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

Kos comment on banning Toquedeville

linked from Bidet's post

Banned for CT (114+ / 31-)
Whether they let it happen on purpose is a legitimate line of investigation.
It may be, but I've made clear that it's not allowed on Daily Kos.

by kos on Sun May 17, 2009 at 12:34:13 AM PDT

First 3 comments in response:

feh (39+ / 0-)
by supersoling on Sun May 17, 2009 at 11:11:30 AM PDT
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next sentence: (125+ / 0-)
But because of the left's phobia with 911, we can't even get the message out that Bushco let 911 happen through incompetence.

Hear is "one of them" edscan 3/27/09

by KenBee on Sun May 17, 2009 at 04:34:29 PM PDT
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They did... (98+ / 0-)
...let it happen through their "incompetence." What's conspiratorial about saying that?

-7/-6.26 | "A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy" - T. Roosevelt


Couldn't have "let it happen" because protocols in place would have, at the very least, stopped some of the attacks on 9/11, if not all of them. There had to be some form of action that prevented the protocols from working. Regardless, the fact that questioning the event that created the "Post-9/11 World" on DailyKos is "not allowed," tells me that DailyKos isn't worth the webspace it's taking up.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

over at Kos they are more

over at Kos they are more concerned with keeping access to the political leaders, they want to keep having these 2nd or 3rd level accomplices keep attending their special Kos events...

all under the illusion that their access with have any meaningful effect on the course of events.



Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?


Rebel Patriot has made the major point regarding ANYTHING political in this country.

The political leaders...aka...the action arm of the ruling class...are doing their job protecting their puppeteers so that in turn, they, the puppets will also be protected.

Both parties, the Republicans and the Republicans in Blue Drag, have their own empires to protect and they are doing this...and they are very good at it. Some call it incumbency, I call it recividism as surely most of them are flat out criminals as their votes are bought and paid for and they end up in the same location FULL of criminals...the beltway.

The Republicans are protecting the wealthy and corporate class, the Democrats, highly influenced by AIPAC and other pro Israel political action and defensive-offensive organizations which have taken almost full control of the Democratic party with the likes of the DLC, and the Military Industrial Complex [which wins in either way], all have something to loose with the TRUTH being exposed.

Therefore, all these ruling class groups have some really, really big things to protect...themselves...and in the case of AIPAC et al...its Israel.

If you think that TheDailyKos operates without internal, and most likely not too obvious, influences from ALL of these forces, amongst many others, then you are naive.

That this posting and subsequent discussion even got a half play on TheDailyKos will have planted seeds in some of its followers...same goes for HuffPo and other places where we see and read some minor mentions or breakthroughs.

The reason that I constantly encourage public activism using CI...Civil Informationing is because 9/11 Truth will NEVER expand from the top of our society on down...its pure grass roots and persistent work in the streets and elsewhere such as this leak at TheDailyKos. I personally am in the streets at least once per week all around Puget Sound and last Saturday I was seen by about 10,000 Mariners and Red Sox fans as they entered and then left Safeco Field in downtown Seattle. One negative response, and hundreds of hand shakes, pats on the back, thank you's, peace signs, smiles, nods and easy discussions about our country.

We will not go away unless Truthers give up their grass root efforts to spread the TRUTH. If those ObamaBots think that because they dusted off their activism "Ts" and helped get this political tool elected, and that HE will solve the problems, then we have the very same thing [cognitive dissonance] going on with the Truthers who were convinced that Ron Paul was a Truther.

The one common point about THE GREAT GRAY NAPPERS, ie:, activists who used to be in the streets or of good of hearts who came from the 60s and 70s but now are sleeping at the wheel of their own governance, is that they are the quickest of all citizens to give their power and responsibility away to elected prostitutes in WDC...and then pretend that these puppets are NOT acting the way that they are. [No offense to sex workers who are FAR more honorable than almost anyone making a living inside the beltway.]

Slowly the worm turns and we make progress. Its time for Truthers to be more objective and more aware of the way things are structured in this country...ie: the ruling class has almost ALL the cards here.

But we have ourselves, the streets and busy corners, the internet and again...the truth...and there are many, many good and positive things that are happening from the streets upward.

The 9/11 Truth Movement is maturing...and if it continues to do so, it will last for decades.

There is a world of difference between a journeyy comprised of knee-jerking down the road, and a journey comprised of fast paced non-stop walking...a very big difference indeed.

Love, Peace and Progress with:


...just for starters as we gather togethr to throw the criminals out of office...

Robin Hordon


Did you write this?


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

i would also be interested in a public confirmation

from Robin Hordon, on whether or not he wrote that- but you should probably message him the link, as it looks like he last visited this thread 5 days ago...

EDIT- I just sent an email to Robin here 911civilinfo@gmail.com

the blog the link goes to- and how911wasdone- are mostly garbage info and speculation, but I do think there needs to be full disclosure and accountability for 9/11- so far there's evidence the intelligence services and high level policy makers in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Israel played some kind of role- but these people don't swear an Oath to defend the Constitution, they are not responsible for the nation's defense, and there were lots of non-Jewish people at NSA/DIA-CIA-FBI-Secret Service-Treasury-Federal Reserve-SEC-FAA-DOD/NMCC/NORAD (who am i forgetting) that were privy to info re an impending attack and didn't act to disrupt the alleged plot, and may even have facilitated it- directly or by obstructing investigations by loyal FBI/CIA personnel- and have helped to cover it up and obstruct investigations afterward- and many other principals in the military-corporate complex may have had foreknowledge.

9/11 was a crime and there needs to be a full investigation

EDIT: It's been more than 5 days; I have not gotten a response

Complete 9/11 Timeline

Profile: Israel

Pakistan / ISI: Specific Cases

Profile: Saudi Arabia


"That's not allowed on Daily Kos"

I can't believe

he dismisses the war crimes of the CIA as just something people didn't think about much. Huh?

Wow, this guy is either really naive or really corrupt. "The CIA is interested in a stable world..."

Do KOSers know about this interview and his politics? If they do and they continue to use Daily KOS, then they're fools, the whole bunch.

The nanothermite article really IS a no-no there

A pussy or a cat?

It's dam confusing....a.. holes

I'm bored of these losers...get out of our way!

9/11 24/7 UNTIL JUSTICE!!


To hell with Daily Kos!
"Cogito ergo sum"

I would consider it an honor

I would consider it an honor to be banned from DailyKos.

Some ex-dailykos'ers are heading to docudharma

I was led there by a post by 'rhetoricus'. I'm not at all familiar with the site. See here.


Docudharma Accepts 9/11 Diaries

So, I encourage people to go there and register.

Daily Kon

Not much to say about "Kos" that hasn't been said already.

As with Huffpo, DU and other mainstream librul sites, the official conspiracy theory of 911 is jealously guarded by a small but extremely vocal minority of shills and dupes.

More alarming to me is that some ostensibly radical sites like infoshop have also banned discussion of the topic.

Information Clearing House is one of the few progressive websites that refuses to pull its punches.

Daily Kos proof 1000s of progressive can be wrong on daily basis

Kos hasn't just disagreed with people on voting rights and false flag issues. He's been personally insulting and abusive as he's disagreed with people on false flag and voting rights issues. He uses childish personal insults and 4 letter words when he does so. He's also personally encourages his surrogates to be even more abusive.

I think we'd be a lot better off if we did everything we could to ignore this "Kos" individual and all his websites. His awful behavior shows he's not an individual that's worth all this bother. Let him just wither on the vine.

Stop making this "Kos" guy important.

Stop making this "Kos" guy important

We can endeavor to make this"Kos" guy IMPOTENT.

dailykos.com looks to be CIA controlled

dailykos.com looks to be CIA controlled with Kos a convert operative, and a team of agents on the site almost constantly to control the debate. (Hear Markos tell the audience at the Commonwealth club about his "interviewing' to join the CIA)


Even with waves of banning and intimidation, they are not able to turn back the tide of 9/11 truth spreading.

9/11 is the #1 political issue and is banned speech there.

I tell people that dailykos.com is most likely a CIA site and provide supporting evidence

Agree on DKos, but here is interesting article

Destruction of emails by Bush regime:


This could include emails related to 9/11.

Love this comment:

"Fuck Markos (2+ / 0-)
Recommended by:Catrina, Bidet
Dkos has morphed into "BlueState"
Also, a hearty "fuck off" to the vicious credulous acolytes of M & O who seem to have taken over this place in the last year in particular. Fuck you credulous proles.

Markos, you're an establishment tool now. co-opted. done.

enjoy your cocktails prick."

^ Hahahaha...

David Sirota quits dailykos because of the hate

A couple of weeks ago, author, blogger, and frequent TV guest David Sirota, whose writing, ethics, honesty, and good level of objectivity I admire, quit dailykos, due to the hostility of commenters there.

His farewell is quoted here.

He writes,

And the problem is, I basically get 95% hate back at me in this forum (as opposed, btw, to other forums like my radio show, OpenLeft, etc.). When I add that to all the hate I get from the conservative cities like Colorado Springs and Jacksonville where my column runs, it just becomes too much.

Apparently, kos' gatekeeping doesn't apply to people making hateful comments.

(In fairness, I must say that, like The NY Times and Democracy Now, there are often excellent articles at dailykos, regardless of gatekeeping in evidence.)