Cheney Blames Tenet For Creating The Iraq-9/11 Link

How can that be? I thought, "The Bush administration put relentless pressure on interrogators to use harsh methods on detainees in part to find evidence of cooperation between al Qaida and the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein’s regime." Tenet once said that he would not be the "Fall Guy." Maybe now would be a good time for him to nail Cheney to the wall. - Jon

Waterboarding was ‘well done,’ Cheney says


Published: June 1, 2009

On Iraq and 9/11: ‘That’s not something I made up’

Former Vice President Dick Cheney is usually very careful at choosing his words.

Perhaps not so today. In a speech Monday at the National Press Club, continuing along familiar themes of terrorism, Guantanamo and his hatred for The New York Times, Cheney spoke defensively of the administration’s practice of water-boarding detainees.

“I don’t believe we tortured,” Cheney remarked, noting that the interrogation techniques approved by the Bush administration were vetted by White House lawyers. They didn’t cross a “red line,” he said.

And then he delivered the whopper: “There were three people who were water-boarded.... It was well-done.”

The former vice president also made an odd comment about detainees being held at Guantanamo Bay.

He framed their detention as a choice between two options: either we imprison them, or we kill them.

“We need Guantanamo... If we didn’t have it, we’d need to (invent) it,” Cheney remarked. “If you don’t have a place to hold these people, the only other option is to kill them.”

“We don’t operate that way,” he added.

Cheney’s comments were transcribed by The Swamp, the blog of the Chicago Tribune.

“If I had it to do all over again, I would do exactly the same thing,” he continued. “I don’t have much tolerance or patience for those who have the benefit of hindsight eight years later and have forgotten what happened on 9/11.... Just imagine, what would happen if you had 19 men in one of our cities... armed with a nuclear weapon or (a biological weapon).”

He also laid it thick on The New York Times:

“We found ourselves in a situation where The New York Times received a leak - we called them into the Oval Office,” Cheney said. “The publisher, the editor and the Washington Bureau chief... all came down to the Oval Office and talked to the president,” where they were told that writing about the program would let terrorists know the U.S. is reading their mail and would break some laws.) “They went ahead and they published it anyway, and their award for doing it was they won the Pulitzer.”

“My own personal view is that damaged our security,” he said.

“I think it’s going to be very difficult to close Guantanamo,” Cheney said. “The New York Times again, one of my favorite publications... referred to the prisoners at Guantanamo as abductees... These are bad actors.... The ones that are left, these are the worst of the worst... There is not a lot of great demand out around the country to have those folks shipped to the nearest facility.”And about Iraq and 9/11: “That’s not something I made up.”

The prime source of information on the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda was George Tenet,” the former CIA director, Cheney said. “There was a relationship between al Qaeda and Iraq that stretched back 10 years. That’s not something I made up... That’s something the director of the CIA was telling us.

He added: “We know that he was making $25,000 payments to the families of suicide bombers... We know there were other terrorists... who had found safe harbor in Iraq over the years. I do not believe, and I have never seen any evidence to confirm, that he was involved in 9/11... But the fact of Saddam Hussein being a terrorist-sponsoring state... was, I think, a fact.”

What he didn’t say was that the Times held their story about the Administration’s warrantless wiretapping program for a year after they first had it — which meant the story stayed out of the news in 2004, when Cheney and President Bush were running for reelection.

This video is from C-SPAN, broadcast June 1, 2009.

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Never cease to be amazed.

This guy is the Picasso of Bullsh** artists. This is his brown period... it's been going on since what, 79'?



Cheney and gang

We HAVE to WIPE the smiles off their collective faces.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

There was a whole...

Army of people whose job it was to tie Iraq to 9/11. Either by direct accusations, or by saying 9/11, Iraq, and Saddam Hussein in the same sentence over and over and over again.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

How about Atta and the Iraqi agent in Prague

I had originally fallen for the story about Mohamed Atta meeting with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague in the Spring of 2001 as proof of Iraq's involvement in 911.

I kept wondering when they were going to say more about it, but the story seemed to finally just whither away with nothing more being investigated or said about it and no confirmation from Czech officials was ever provided.

It has turned out that story had it's roots in Dick Cheney's office not Czech intelligence.

But Mr. Cheney would have us believe he never attempted to link Iraq to 911.


Dick Cheney claimed the bogus Atta-Iraqi spy meeting had been, “pretty well confirmed, that he did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.”

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

"This is the man who has told more lies..."

Lawrence Wilkerson(chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell): "This is the man who has told more lies from a public pulpit than almost anyone else I know."

Cheney has reputation for secrecy, steadfastness, certitude of belief, being Darth Vader etc... But, for some reason, he does not have the reputation for being a professional liar and propagandist, which is what he is. I wonder why?

From the History Commons,

"In the driveway outside the West Wing of the White House, Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, allegedly grabs counterterrorism “tsar” Richard Clarke and says, “I hear you don’t believe this report that Mohamed Atta was talking to Iraqi people in Prague.” Clarke responds, “I don’t believe it because it’s not true.” According to Clarke, Libby replies, “You’re wrong. You know you’re wrong. Go back and find out; look at the rest of the reports, and find out that you’re wrong.” Clarke will later comment, “And I understood what he was saying, which was, ‘This is a report that we want to believe, and stop saying it’s not true. It’s a real problem for the vice president’s office that you, the counterterrorism [‘tsar’], are walking around saying that this isn’t a true report. Shut up.’ That’s what I was being told.
Late September 2001

It looks like it wasn't Tenet who was driving Cheney to accept links between Al-Qaeda and Iraq.

Because he is a very good propagandist and liar

It is now obvious to me that Dick Cheney is one of the most practiced and shrewd propagandists and liars this country has ever seen in political office, and that is probably why he is not seen in that light by many.

Sure his approval rating may not be very high, so people are on to him in the sense that they don't necessarily like his politics, but he doesn't seem like the type of person who would let that bother him. I think his only real concern is that nobody can actually press charges against him for the crimes he has committed, and in that area he has succeeded tremendously.

Just look at what the man has actually gotten away with compared to the relatively small surge of a push to hold him accountable.

"nobody can actually press charges against him"

Unfortunately, this appears to be the case. As the Christian philosopher/mathematician Blaise Pascal once wrote,

"Justice without strength is powerless; strength without justice is tyrannical.

As things now stand, Cheney and the neo-cons have the latter, the 9/11 Truth Movement has the former.

Thanks Jon

I would like to see someone waterboard Cheney. Then lets see if it's torture or not. I normally don't believe in capitol punishment bit in Cheney's case I would love to see him fry. Of all the neocons he is the most despicable.

Our Country

It would appear that our country murders its own citizens to justify invading other countries and then tortures their people so that they confess to our crimes.

When is somebody going to have a real

conversation with this guy? & call him out.

Enuff already, of his prounouncments.


There is a real media in this country.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

Another party...

Heard from...

I should really watch the speech, but I can't stand that man.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?