MTV's The Hills Stars"Heidi Montag & Spencer Pratt" on Alex Jones Tv:Waking Up to The NWO and 9/11!!!

Not impressed.

Just when people have had absolutely enough of these 2 idiots, Alex gets them on his show.

EDIT: sorry if that sounds snotty; I suppose Im still mad that Alex was COMPLETELY SILENT about the nano-thermitic paper, and continues to be.

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dont preach it, just mention it :)

Niels Harrit on Alex Jones TV (HD) 1/2:Nano-Thermite Found in WT

I'm not against criticism of Alex Jones and I usually don't defend him too regularly, but here is his interview with Niels Harrit. I wish he'd concentrate more on 9/11 and this evidence as well...

And I'm impressed anytime two completely popular people like Heidi and Spencer, who I just learned about today, come out for 9/11 Truth. It is impressive because it may not benefit them, yet they are doing it anyway. And the potential of reaching new audiences is more important to the movement than anything else. And the Country.

Alex Jones also introduced this stuff to George Noory of Coast to Coast AM fame and his listeners requested him so much that George started having him on occasionally and now recently Coast to Coast AM with its millions of listeners interviewed Richard Gage for over an hour the other night. So I'd say its worth having this stuff in our movement.

Richard Gage on Coast to Coast AM ~

The winding road to the truth

There will be fringe elements in any type of movement, it comes with the territory. We can only control what we do on a day to day basis and let the other elements flow. This may be part of the process that the winding road to the truth needs to go through. These 2 pop stars coming forward, no matter how off their opinions may be, are bucking the establishment and bringing about discussion. That is a good thing. Alex is also very funny.

I think some of the criticalness expressed is strained...

I think some of the comments about this piece of news strain with criticalness. I am fine with straining at criticalness about the enemy camp, such as Cheney and torture or Fox News. But let's NOT knock other people or news agencies who are trying to spread truthful information.

Each individual has their own demeaner and personal characteristics. If a church-goer dislikes a charismatic southern Baptist preacher, then let him go to a Lutheran church or start his own church. Start your own radio show if you dislike this the Alex Jones format. Abby started her own production thing with her own style and subject matter.

And to correct false information, InfoWars often has several 9/11 related news articles every week.

My main point: If you do not like the way someone does something, go do it yourself in a better way. They are doing their thing, you go do yours. Evidently, there is a large crowd which goes to InfoWars for the news. They must like getting the news from there. If you want to do a news place, go ahead. --just don't bash people if their format does not appeal to you.

I agree Tom T

I agree with you 100% Tom. We are all unique and have our own opinions. I happen to have great respect for Alex Jones and the work he is doing. I consider him one of the top truthers on the planet although there are a few things he says that I don't agree with but you will never hear me put him down. I never slam any truther weather I agree with them or not. There is an old saying, "United we stand, divided we fall". The NWO boys love to divide and conquer. That is how they operate. As long as we stand united we will win this thing..... Just my two cents.


active thermitic material - Google Search

1. WeAreChange LA Questions VP Biden on 9/11 and Nano-thermite

"Published recently in “The Open Chemical Physics Journal”, Vol. 2 (2009) p.7-31 is found “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World ..."

2. Pittsburgh shooter was fan of online conspiracy theories

"'active thermitic material' discovered in the World Trade Center dust was a combination of elemental aluminum and iron oxide, and is ..."

3. Study claims 'highly engineered explosive' found in WTC rubble

"8 Apr 2009 ... dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material. ..."

4. Danish Scientist on TV: Nano-thermite Behind Collapse of WTC ...

"During this news report, Harrit, who is one of the nine scientists primarily responsible for the pivotal paper entitled: 'Active Thermitic Material ..."


Yea, point taken. I just remember how Alex was ALL ABOUT Steven Jones when he released his first paper, and it seems like this much harder proof has only been given a couple passing mentions and reposts from other web sites.

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dont preach it, just mention it :)

If Alex Could Have Taken Credit For It He Would Have

and it would have shown up quicker and more forcefully.

Me thinks Zombie Bill Hicks

Me thinks Zombie Bill Hicks is a little nervous at the bigger picture of Truth which Alex Jones shouts about everyday. Alex Jones covers international banking, the Police State, current False Flag operations around the world, Color Revolutions, Bilderberg, the current corrupt seats of power doling out poisonous legislation, CIA drug dealing and other crimes, FBI racism and corruption, and even the cult of bloodshed and Eugenics - all very real, and all in need of the light of TRUTH. 9/11 is just the lynch pin for the larger Truth we all need to know more about.

Or, perhaps it's Alex Jones' passion for Liberty and the Constitution which puts Zombie Bill Hicks in irrational state when he makes comments about him?


You nervous that Im right? Go ahead an call me out for making a valid point. Please point out any instance where I've been irrational and have not made corrections.

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dont preach it, just mention it :)

I'm referring to an

I'm referring to an irrational write-off of Alez Jonens' and his guests at the top of this blog, your entry which started this chain of responses. Also, relax a minute cowboy, we're all in this together. I was simply bringing the Alex Jones line back in line. Peace, Truth and Liberty, Brother


I suppose Im just burnt out lately. And you're right, I have written off Alex Jones. I dont listen to his show, visit his websites, or promote his videos to anyone. His right wing sensationalist shouting has worn on me over the years.

Currently its boggling my mind, being told that I should find comfort that Alex has two already over-exposed morons on his show, and that this will somehow be a boon to the movement. But I'll come around I guess.

You're right, we are in this together.

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dont preach it, just mention it :)

No one man can ever control

No one man can ever control a Movement. Just lean forward, keep pressing on on as many fronts as possible, expand your forces at every opportunity. Victory is ours because the Truth is ours. Alex Jones is undeniably huge.

Why are they so hated?

I really know nothing about them. What have they done that is so terrible?

These two have strong connections

to the young West Coast conservative circles. There not my bag of tea, but this is a good thing.

If Miley Cyrus ever becomes involved with the 9.11 truth movement, you will see a dramatic shift in young people awarness. Yes, our pop culture is that influential~

I will feel much better

I will feel much better if Miley spoke out for 911 truth---that would be a much more positive push-----I kno 911 truth is for everyone but Speidi can actually give us a bad name, Miley would definitely help--not hurt our cause.

Billy Ray & Co.

Don't be surprised if/when Billy Ray & co have young Miley dinounce any connection to this. She may make a public announcement that she doesn't agree w/ her friend Heidi in an attempt to avoid controversy and save her reputation. Even if Miley is interested, her father & co probably could influence her to not pursue anything publicly or even to avoid it at all cost. They will try to protect her from the onslaught that no dobt would flood her with inquiries if she were to aggree w/ Heidi. I will be jumping up & down for joy if Miley comes out for 911 truth and her father too--could u imagine that? Unfortunately I can't. I'm afraid too many people have finacial interest in protecting her image and this will never be allowed to happen. However, I did think pigs must be flying when i heard Speidi jumped n board w/ us , so just goes to show you, you never do know who will wake up & speak out! Crossing my fingers, saying my prayer for this to all be positive!!


Someone please allow this update to go through...


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

Show "outch..." by Richard D. Brinkman


The most detested pop culture icons in generations are now converts to 9/11 Truth?

I think the saying goes, "With friends like these..."


I'd apply that saying to Alex as well ..

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dont preach it, just mention it :)

It might be worth noting

that these two just finished hoaxing viewers of the reality show they were on three times (likely with the connivance of the producers). I'd take this "conversion" with a grain of salt, until we see how long it lasts.


Any publicity is worth having, and these two are well enough known that it doesn't matter what their current status is. The fact that they are willing to question in public is all we really need for people to start hunting around for facts pertaining to 9-11. As long as people have questions and they seek answers, that is all we need. The fact that they are dishonest is irrellevant, most high profile celebrity-types are living some altered version of reality anyways, in my opinion, and what they say should always be taken with a grain of salt. The point is simply that they raise awareness of the issue when they question the "official" story in a public venue.

The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry

Sorry...They lost me

when they started denying climate change. I am sure a case can be made that it is both from natural and man made causes..It's the profit driven man made causes we can do something about.

I would rather stick with the science behind the attacks on 9/11... I find that people tune out when we go beyond the Federal Reserve and 9/11. Though Alex Jones is credible on some issues his style and right wing tilt don't do it for me personally . You can come from the left or the right and appreciate Richard Gage and David Ray Griffin.


on here once made a comment that temperatures around the country were noted after 9/11 when no one was allowed to fly, and apparently they went down dramatically.

Lends credence to the man-made hypothesis.

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dont preach it, just mention it :)

You mean me?

The temperatures rose by 1 degree centigrade during daytime, related to a phenomenon called "Global Dimming".

Wikipedia, while normally not a reliable source on politically charged topics and certainly not on 9/11, refers to a publication in "Nature":

"Some climate scientists have theorized that aircraft contrails (also called vapor trails) are implicated in global dimming, but the constant flow of air traffic previously meant that this could not be tested. The near-total shutdown of civil air traffic during the three days following the September 11, 2001 attacks afforded a rare opportunity in which to observe the climate of the United States absent from the effect of contrails. During this period, an increase in diurnal temperature variation of over 1 °C (1.8 °F) was observed in some parts of the U.S., i.e. aircraft contrails may have been raising nighttime temperatures and/or lowering daytime temperatures by much more than previously thought."

In other words, contrails contribute to Global Dimming, which reduces sunlight intensity and which lowers diurnal and raises nocturnal temperature, therefore at least some climate change is man made.

The extraordinary grounding of planes on and after 9/11 made this observation possible...because lack of dimming due to vapor trails meant the effects were temporarily reversed.

That's it

Very interesting. You're a valuable resource, SC.

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dont preach it, just mention it :)


"It's the profit driven man made causes we can do something about."
I couldn't have said it better. Future generations will surely know this but then it will be too late.
BTW. I agree with the rest of your comment too.

I had not heard of these two before yesterday.

Not sure about the roles they have played on television and where that line is with them as individuals.

Heidi mentions here producer gave here dvds, did some diggin, the producer is Steven Morales who seems to have voiced some legit concerns i nthe past, message boards, music trade mags. twitter messages, etc.

How these two are using it, not sure. We know how it will be spun.

Hopefully folks that are tuned into pop culture will look, investigate and awake themselves.


I detested these two before today, but after hearing them on this interview I think they could really influence a lot of young people and awaken many pop obsessed youth.

Awaken them to what exactly?

I'd love to see more young people get interested in politics. But I would NOT like to see them turning to AJ for anything. They'd be learning some real crap about history, journalism, and science.


Two pop celebs like these talking about 9-11 truth, an issue so heavily censored and ignored in the mainstream I believe will perk ears and make people intrigued enough to research it. Just being optimistic here... Hopefully people can formulate their own opinions through examination and not just regurgitate alex jones' opinions.

Alex Jones does not encourage independent thinking.


Wait, it's OK to criticize AJ now?

I'm surprised to see the comments here. Are the AJ fans off for the day? Why hasn't anyone voted all these comments down? Since when did anyone care about separating NWO paranoia from 9/11 truth? And is anyone here willing to extent that criticism to the vast majority of WAC chapters that don't separate the two?

I'd be encouraged to start posting here more, but then I it's not like I can get away with saying anything about other people I have a problem with. I've been griping about AJ for years now and some of those who seem finally willing to question him would still give me shit for questioning other figures in the movement, like Kevin Barrett. Guess I'll just have to wait a bit longer.


should be more than welcome here. Dont worry about who might vote down your posts.

Off topic .. but Kevin Barrett and Craig Ranke have been invited to the 9/11 events in NY this year. Unless its a goal of WAC or whoever organizes this event to sow division amongst the ranks, this is not a good start.

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dont preach it, just mention it :)

there's no point in playing into your divisiveness

AJ haters are just that.

Oh snap! You got me good. :?


Yeah, if only Alex Jones did

Yeah, if only Alex Jones did exactly what Jules has done so far for 9/11 truth.

Then we would...probably all still be asleep.

I don't see why people criticize someone who has done more than 9/11 truth than they have done in their entire lifetime.

Why don't you start a radio show and talk about whatever you want on it?

Then you'll have to deal with ninnying and bickering from others who want you to do it exactly their way while they sit online all day.

Cause you know all about me?

Here's my point, as I've just been sniping up till now. Alex Jones is sensationalistic. I think that's a very fair characterization with no attitude or intended snark. He does not provide references when presenting information. He rarely links stories on his site back to their origin. And he plays loose with facts, characterizing things in ways that get attention more than they are factually correct. He's not a good journalist.

Along with that sensationalism comes his willingness to jump on any new tidbit that might look encouraging and sell it hard regardless of it's true merit. I honestly don't think that these two relatively vapid mainstream actors are going to be doing the movement any favors. And to be frank I don't think getting people to come to Prison Planet, where they might come to assume that 9/11 truth has anything at all to do with "chemtrails" or water fluoridation is at all beneficial.

Sure, we hope people with think for themselves. But appearances and first impressions matter, and I don't think that Alex Jones provides this movement a good first impression for the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS who would consider his politics far right wing, and/or just plain nutty.

Do you get it? I'm talking about what people MIGHT think and not what you know. I'm talking about PR.

Yeah Alex Jones is great. I

Yeah Alex Jones is great.

I loved his response when I caught him adding text to a Reuters article about the Federal Reserve and attributing it to the original author. I commented on it, was immediately banned from commenting permanently, and have never to this day received a response from AJ.

I love how even though Alex obviously knows that the threat we face today in America is fascism, because sometimes he tells the truth and refers to it as such, that he still has the gall to paint it as socialism half the time for his ignorant right wing fanboys still fighting the cold war. Socialism is the idealogical nemesis of fascism, dummies.

I like the whole "it's not right or left, it's right or wrong" rhetoric that he wears to appear non-partisan, while all the time trying to funnel dissidents into the Republican party as Ron Paul supporters. I mean, he gave such strong support for Cynthia McKinney's presidential campaign, not.

I love how he professes Wall Street to be his enemy, yet cheerleaders for free market capitalism and denounces socialism, the economic system that would strip Wall Street of all it's power and return the power to the people. If he hates these usurious bankers and war profiters so bad, why does he have a problem with the people seizing the assets that were stolen from them in the first place and redistributing the wealth back to the masses that generated it with their labor.

I love how he changed the website back in 2006 to include the comment sections for articles. Nothing helps our cause as much as the ranting comments of various alphabet agency provocateurs, verse quoting bible thumpers and various other actual nutcases. What better way to discredit your presentation of the news than to have the articles associated by proximity with the retarded rantings of the people that post comments at infowars? Oh wait, I have an idea. How about you devote as much space to advertising as you do to news content to make yourself look like a money grubbing whore.

But I guess if you present enough news from credible sources like Global Research, Project Censored, Greg Palast, Black Box, Dahr Jamail or 911blogger then you can get away with getting people to read the occasional good story by Steve Watson, crap by Kurt Nimmo, or xenophobic news reports intended to alienate us from our latino brothers and sisters. It's funny. I bet the global elites would be really mad if the American masses had solidarity with central and south Americans, because then we might actually pick up their proven methods for fighting back against our oppressors.

Alex Jones is a tool of limited hangout. Be mad at the bankers. Be mad at Halliburton and Dynecorp. He's there to direct your attention on the symptoms. While with the next breath defending the disease. Greed, power, usury, mass murder, lies, election fraud, eugenics. All these crimes perpetrated by the mighty. He'd have you hate the players, not the game. Capitalism is a system designed to enable the haves to subjugate the have-nots. The real enemy is the clock and the referee.

You can't fool all the people all of the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line.


I wish I was nearly so astute when it comes to characterizing Alex Jones. I think the point you make about directing attention toward the symptoms is spot on, and a point I'm always trying to drive home.

Do you mind if I repost or extensively quote from this comment on my blog?

I checked out your blog and

I checked out your blog and I'm feeling you. Feel free to use my analysis as you will, just don't attribute it to me. I'm having enough trouble already, being blacklisted, I don't need to catch any more heat for being the person to crush Alex Jone's facade.

Cool. Blacklisted, huh?

Thanks. I think your post here has a solid structure and hits all the bases I'm concerned about. I'll rewrite it for my purposes, possibly using a sentence of yours here and there.

Many people have been persecuted for criticizing Alex Jones. And it's not like he needs defending. He has more money than the entire movement and more promotional resources at his disposal.

The psychological elements of this are fascinating but hard to pin down. It seems that some view him as a father figure or cultural savior, while others don't own the truth for themselves, possibly being less educated or motivated to read much, and appreciate the fact that he makes things easy to consume with audio, video, and few references. Some simply find his bluster highly captivating or motivational. He is certainly a charismatic figure.

But as you imply above, he's not addressing the root problems. He absolutely supports "prosperity" as Obama puts it.

Oh. There they are.


US Magazine > Spencer Pratt: 9/11 Was an "Inside Job"

Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag Pratt shared some controversial views on a radio show earlier this week.

In a Monday appearance on Alex Jones' radio show, Infowars, the couple revealed they feel 9/11 was an "inside job," say the idea that global warming exists is "mind boggling" and lament the "end of humanity."

LISTEN to their entire radio appearance here; it starts at the 180-minute mark.

The Pratts told Jones -- who is known for his conspiracy theories of a "New World Order" (or, as he feels, code for "totalitarian world government") -- they found out about him after a music producer gave them a copy of Jones' movie, The Obama Deception.

"I really do feel like we took the blue pill or whatever from The Matrix," Spencer says.

Since then, says Heidi: "We've been nonstop researching the Internet...for information for at least a month all day every day."

See Heidi and Spencer's cheesiest moments.

"How are we so famous when...there's been nothing about the biggest bill since the Patriot Act being passed, [the Cap-and-Trade bill, which regulates carbon output, among other environmental issues] and nobody reading it," Spencer questions. "It's mind-boggling trying to say there's global warming right now."

See more celeb scandals.

Jones also brings up the idea of human microchip implantation to erase the need for credit cards or identification. Heidi is troubled by the idea.

"This is very serious. It says in the Bible this is the mark of the beast, and that is a sign of worshipping the Devil. So over my dead body would I ever get a chip in my body," she says. "My body belongs to Jesus Christ. I am a disciple of Jesus, and I will speak out to Christians....this chip is the end of humanity."

Check out photos of religious stars.

Heidi also admits she's now "very scared" of birth control.

"I feel like God was telling me that this was something just created by the government that is really bad for my body, and I was just getting sick," she says. "I researched it, and one of the founding people who invented birth control said it was the worst thing they had ever done, they wished they'd never created it, how it morally corrupted society, it's just sickening to him. How it devalues women, how it causes depression, how it can cause cancer, how it sterilizes your body, and what it does to your body, how most women are suicidal sometimes on it."

Spencer backs up Jones' belief that 9/11 was an "inside job."

"From your research, it 100 percent is," Spencer says, adding later: "I want to throw up."

Read more quotes on, which first reported the story.

He also compares The Hills to the government.

"The narrator [Lauren Conrad] didn't get along with us. She skewed the information on the show, just like the American government can manipulate the media," he says. "We used to have a phenomenal relationship with the media, they've kind of turned on us now because they've created us into such a monstrous they made us too big, like they Obama-sized us...."

See The Hills' most controversial moments.

Heidi says her new beliefs will be taken "very seriously" because, "I've always been a very serious Christian, and most Christians understand what's going on. They understand they're being persecuted. They understand this is the end of the world. They understand the New World Order, the One World Currency, is all in Revelations in the Bible, so they're taking me very seriously and they know when I mean something, that it's a message."

Even Miley Cyrus is in on the "awakening," Heidi and Spencer say, after they put it on Twitter.

See Heidi and Spencer's wedding photos.

Heidi doesn't expect everyone to agree with her new views.

"Conspiracy is a word they've created to make people sound crazy, but that's not what God says," she says. "You can persecute us, you can say whatever you want. "

Spencer is so changed, he says, his "first rap album is going to be called Infowars."

"My first single, I'm pretty sure is going to be called 'Patriot Act,'" he adds.

Spencer tells of his appearance on the show: "We get very passionate and excited talking about the New World Order with Alex Jones. The Fourth of July has me extra excited with the energy of our founders!"

Yeah, it's pretty disheartening... read the comments at that site. Let's add some of our own.

I think you're missing the reason US readers are

crapping on this story. It's because EVERYONE hates these two idiots. Trust me, this news isn't going to help 9/11 Truth at all.

When Spencer says at the end of that piece that he's going to release a rap album named Infowars, I came this much closer to believing the entire Spencer and Heidi thing is a hoax. Can anyone be that stupid and offensive and culturally oblivious?

Even if I had not stopped watching broadcast TV and cable over 3

Even if I had not stopped watching broadcast TV and cable over 3 years ago I doubt I would have known who they are. When I did watch it was nothing remotely resembling the young celebs. Still I think it is good that they spoke out. More seeds of doubt planted in hard heads.

Heidi & Spencer AJ NWO 9/11 Story also here:

Some of the comments are good here:

The comments here at Jezebel will make you cry or barf or both:

NWO/Free Mason info on History Chanel

The History chanel is showing "Secrets of the Founding Fathers" right now. I tuned in to check it out---surprised of what they are revealing already: NWO plans, sexual deviance, devil worshiping, etc.

I knew the History chanel was not all factual when I saw their show on 911 conspiracies. They really don't know what they are talking about and cant follow basic science or basic journalism. They chose what they will research and what they want to avoid and yet all along their audiance assumes they are get facts. So, I'm very hesitant and sceptical of anything they do.

I just thought it is interesting that they are letting out SOME of the many secrets now. Interesting.

Again, it is "Secrets of the Founding Fathers". Now they are talking about family connections. I'm surprised. I will be impressed when they do a factual program on 911.

Biting Us in the A**!

This is horrible!!

You couldn't ask for worse publicity. And yes, i think in this case---a serios issue, there can possibly be bad publicity.
The only good news here is that two more people are awake and they may possibly wake up more--that is exciting no doubt. I was very impressed (and shocked) w/ Speidi coming forward. HOWEVER, my gut told me that the support of these two (because of who they are) may hurt us more than it could ever possibly help us. And now, after reading the Us article, I'm afreaid--very afraid my gut is right. It would be like if Jessica Simpson suddenly supported 911 truth. We are a large varied community here within 911 truth. But, these two bring a kot of attention that I'm afraid will bring nothing but a negative light to the issue. I used to think any exposure was good--that people would look up info on their own. But it seems that the spin is going to be that these too are weird and extreme. I also agree w/ a previous poster that I really dont like how 911 truth is getting lumped together with things like global warming. I happen to believe it is real.

Lets examine this: Speidi talk about Obama Deveption---look at how popular Obama is in hollywood (and he world), so u think celebs & youth are going to follow them on this? Not likely. Green. Everyone is going green as they should, so do u think youth & dem celebs are gonna agree with these two when they are saying global warming isnt real? Not likely. I don't know. Im just afraid for the truth. I agree with what they say--minus global warming, but Im just so afraid of getting the wrong attention and that from now on, anytime you mention 911 truth--people will think of Speidi--two weird fanatic celebs and not the evidence. Did u see the posts on Us? It is bad. These people aren't looking up 911truth and seeing the evidence, they are disagreeing with the two people they don't like and dismissing the 911 issue based on their dislike for these two.
Maybe, hopefully I'm worried for nothing. I really hope this brings about positive awakenings within the younger crowd and the celeb crowd. But i'm just worried. I am grateful for them speaking out---especially knowing this may kill their celeb status. It is very brave of them. I hope they just keep pushing for people to look into it themselves and focus on 911 truth & let NWO stuff come later--that is too much for fresh eyes to comprehend.

No need to fear for the truth,

it is quite strong in its own right and will not stand or fall based on one person or even a group of people.

This is a very interesting development and time will tell how it plays out.

The best thing that Ms. Montag and Mr. Pratt could do would be to learn the facts, refine their message and focus it on the Christian community they are most comfortable in. This is the one community that we have had very limited success penetrating and considering the evangelical leanings of many in the military, especially the Air Force, it would be quite helpful to have two people working that demographic on behalf of the truth. They should be made aware of Dr. David Graham's story as that will give them a more personal vehicle and real credibility to bring the truth about 9/11 into the Christian/Evangelical community.

It would be easy to speculate about how this will turn out, but I think it best that we put as much positive energy toward these two individuals as we can as they we be on the receiving end of a lot of nastiness for the foreseeable future.

We are all brothers and sisters on this big, beautiful blue ball, let's focus on our common needs and interests first.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

"The Truth Shall Set Us Free"

You are right, I really should stop being so worried. I always find that when I truly want to allow myslef to be excited about something good that has occured, I have to ruin it for myself by doubting that it is something to be excited about. I think about all the possible negative side effects and assume that something bad will come from it. It is almost like this sick preemptive strike. I am soooo tired of being disappointed that I cant allow myslef to get excited, only to be let down. It hurts. It hurts to get pumped up and think "this is it" "this will be what blows this wide open" only to see the msm destroy it. We've all been there with Rosie, Charlie---they ignored Daniel. What will they do w/ Speidi? I just don't know. I'm afraid but I really want to celebrate.
After listening to the enitire interview, I must say, I really am impressed with their crash course. It is hard info to take in. They have really opened up and publicly too--and they have a lot to lose. I really admire what they have done. This goes to show you that it really is a mistake to judge people we don't really know, to make assumptions about people that act differently than ourselves. I do think they have been thrown under the bus too. Im just hoping it doesnt continue with 911 truth being thrown down with them. I hope it helps them to be seen in a better light.

I def will be praying on this. I have to. I have to have hope. I also feel bad for giving in to fear that their unfair bad rep would hurt 911 truth. We are a large varied community, and i think we all should except everyone that isnt hateful. I am proud of what they are doing and Im going to try to feel positive about this and stop lending to tarnishing their rep. I certainly don't want to do that to such brave people. They have made a HUGE change and a risk considering what they stand to lose. They def need our support. God Bless 'em! And, God help me stay positive, no matter what happens.

"I used to think any exposure was good...

that people would look up info on their own."

They will, don't worry.

I did.

My curiosity was aroused thanks to a hit piece on Fox News' Geraldo show in November 2004. The former activist Jimmy Walter of the defunct was the guest. He argued how the Pentagon must have been hit by a cruise missile, and Geraldo came back with the usual "What about the passengers on the airplane?" and "Doesn't this theory defy logic and reason?" And at the end, when Geraldo asked "Who did it?" and Walter answered "Elements of the US Military with Dick Cheney at command did it." I seriously laughed out loud.

Think about that. My first reaction was to laugh it off.

Nevertheless, over the next six months, that interview nagged me at the back of my mind. My latent curiosity had been awakened. It wasn't too much longer after that that I was reading "New Pearl Harbor" and "Omissions and Distortions."

I've noticed that the really hopeless people are the ones who are not convinced even when presented with the credible experts. Like I've said before, back in 2006 before the advent of ae911truth, Amy Goodman challenged Dylan and Jason "Name JUST ONE structural engineer who agrees with you that planes alone couldn't have brought the buildings down!" Now that we have many more than "just one," the 9/11 truth deniers will say dismissively, of, "Oh, that's just a truther website." Those are the ones who get me. While I'm sure a few are paid to oppose us, I think others simply exhibit extreme psychological denial on this issue. My dad is one of these people. I mentioned to him the other day the issue of the FBI admitting there's no hard evidence linking OBL to 911, and his reaction was a dismissive, "Oh, that's just legal speak." The level of denial is overwhelming sometimes. But as far as this Speidi publicity, the ripple effect just might be more positive than you think.

Sigh of Relief, Thank You

You are sooo right. Thank you for mentioning your reaction at first. I also understand the parent in major denial. My mom doesnt want to hear any of it---she doesnt care--dont mention it. She and I have had major falling outs over this and many other political issues frankly. We simply cannot talk politics at if we are to have a relationship.

I do have hope now. I can't live without hope.

Older folks

My parents are the same way, they either feel like there is no point in questioning things because the powers that be will do whatever they choose, or that it is simply too devastating to imagine people planning something like this so completely and thoroughly. I guess they may be from a simpler time when they were not aware of such evils and power-hungry monsters trying to control every aspect of our existence. They feel safer not questioning, just going along with the current and the steady stream of sheeple doing whatever is popular and accepted.

The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry

Kameelyun, I would have guessed you had been at this longer

you have more than made up for lost time. I commend your effort.

I remember telling my father that I was sure 9/11 was an inside job back in 2002'. He died before any of the videos were available. Last I heard from him on the subject was, "oh, Joe, they would never do that".

Joe, how did you figure it out?

In 2002 there were no books, no videos, no thermitic material -- how did you figure it out? My hat is off to all you who figured it out so very early in the game, with very little help.

I suspected something was amiss when...

after the attacks in NY something/anything was able to strike the Pentagon. I was online on 9/11 searching and finding the "outrageous conspiracy theories". L Larouche and Mike Ruppert FROM THE WILDERNESS were the first. I had followed the Jersey Girls and the Family Steering Committee's efforts to get an investigation for some time. It was when the Omission Commission was announced with H Kissinger to lead that I knew for certain.

I am a rare one who cannot tell of what woke them up as I guessed it from the start. I did go around for the next year and a half saying to myself, "maybe I'm wrong". H.K. sealed it for me.

I know a couple other truthers like that..

...who knew immediately.

Barrie Zwicker was suspicous right from the first day. There is a man in my local truth group who knew immediately, because he already knew the truth about OKC and JFK.

I was suspicous about 9/11 immediately, cause I thought "that sure looks strange how those buildings came down." But then I watched something, I think it was on HBO, called "How the Towers Fell," and they trotted out one paid-off engineer and architect after another, who sort of blinded me with science and assured me that, odd though it looked, it all made sense. Flimsy building and raging inferno, you know the story.

I didn't know yet about Operation Mockingbird or how controlled the MSM is.

I remember turning off the TV and sort of shaking my head and thinking, well now I've seen everything, who woulda thunk, etc.

Then years went by before I accidentally happened upon Paul Craig Roberts while researching impeachment.

William Cooper, in his book

William Cooper, in his book Behold A Pale Horse published prior to the attacks, talked about how the government was planning a terrorist attack to use as an excuse to attack Afghanistan. Unfortunately I had read this book in the summer of 2001, and knew what really happened as soon as they started throwing blame at Osama.

NY Daily News' turn...

Since I'm strapped for time, can someone quickly catch me up on why they're already hated by the public so much? I've been very estranged with pop culture lately.

EDIT: As of right now, there are 4 comments at the nydn site; 2 positive and 2 negative. Let's tilt the balance.

What do you know!

I just received an e-mail in my inbox informing me that I've been banned from posting at NY Daily News!

I just got banned there, too

My first time getting banned anywhere.

All I did was post a few quotes from I'm betting that they won't tell me why I was banned, either. Maybe I'll try again and see if I get banned a second time.

NY Daily News is Murdoch, isn't it?


The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.


it's owned by Mort Zuckerman, another super-wealthy billionaire Zionist and "a member of the media wing of the "Israeli lobby" in the United States."

Sorry I do not trust Alex Jones

And now with these two clowns on his show makes me sick

You shouldn't trust the

You shouldn't trust the website you posted either. It's obvious disinformation.