Time Magazine: 9/11 Truth lumped in with "The Reptilian Elite" and "Holocaust Revisionism".

Time magazine has lumped 9/11 Truth in with other enduring "enduring conspiracy theories" such as "The Reptilian Elite" and "Holocaust Revisionism".


This is...

related to this.

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

If you want to contact Time Magazine

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Went ahead and emailed Time

Went ahead and emailed Time, suggesting they read from Patriots Question 9/11, beginning with Sibel Edmonds, Harry Samit, and Louis Freeh. Maintained that there is certainly a cover-up, the question being what is being concealed, and how much of it involves incompetence and how much complicity. Also suggested that if they don't want to think of it as conspiracy, they might just call it organized crime.

Major MSM Likely Controlled Propaganda

Unverifiable audio recordings attributed to OBL are continuously presented as fact, while scientific evidence (Bentham nano-EM paper) is ignored.

This comparison says it all.

The fact that the major MSM continuously "drop-in" to cover our cause (to minimize it) should be a reminder that our activities are having an impact and apparently make the establishment uncomfortable.

Their bias seems to go beyond ignorance - its apparently damage-controlling proaganda.

This view of the media is less conspiracy theory and more an understanding of how power operates.

enduring conspiracy theories?

When it comes to 11/22/63 and 9/11/2001, these conspiracies are not theories but provable facts. Time magazine is nothing but garbage. Perfect example of our controlled media.


Little known fact about Time Magazine.

Some of us may have heard of Henry Luce, an ardent supporter of Fascism and former owner of Time Magazine. What about the Post War era?

"During the Second World War CD Jackson served as special assistant to the Ambassador to Turkey before joining the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) in 1943. The following year he was appointed Deputy Chief at the Psychological Warfare Division at Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force (SHAEF).

After the war, Jackson became Managing Director of Time-Life International. In 1948 Frank Wisner, who worked with Jackson in the OSS, was appointed as director of the Office of Special Projects. Soon afterwards it was renamed the Office of Policy Coordination (OPC). This became the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Wisner also established Operation Mockingbird, a program to influence the domestic American media. Wisner asked Philip Graham of the Washington Post to run the project within the newspaper industry. Jackson was also recruited and according to Deborah Davis (Katharine the Great: Katharine Graham and the Washington Post: "By the early 1950s, Wisner 'owned' respected members of the New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles."


CD Jackson was not alone. A large number of psyops personnel from the OWI went on to become editors of major magazines, newspapers, founders of prominent tanks, and even filmmakers.

This actually follows a classic pattern established by Ivy Lee, Edward Bernays and Walter Lippman (the "dean of American journalism"), all of whom served on the Creel Committe during WWI and went on to develop the arts of journalism, public relations and communication science.

A "free press" this is not.

More on Jackson...

Jackson also took an active role in Operation Mockingbird. Documents released after his death show that Jackson was in contact with a CIA agent in Hollywood's Paramount Studios. This agent was involved in trying to influence the content of the films the company was making.

The agent is not named by Jackson but Frances Stonor Saunders claims in Who Paid the Piper? (2000) that it was Carleton Alsop, a CIA agent employed by Frank Wisner. There is no doubt that Alsop was one of the CIA agents working at Paramount. However, Hugh Wilford argues in The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America (2008) that it was a senior executive at Paramount, Lugi G. Laraschi, was the most important CIA figure at the studio. Laraschi was the head of foreign and domestic censorship at the studio, whose job was to “iron out any political, moral or religious problems”. Other studios, including MGM and RKO, had similar officers, and were probably CIA placements. In a private letter to Sherman Adams, Jackson claims the role of these CIA placements was “to insert in their scripts and in their action the right ideas with the proper subtlety”.

In 1953 C. D. Jackson served on the Presidents' Committee on International Information Activities. The following year he was appointed as Special Assistant to President for International Affairs.

Jackson urged President Dwight D. Eisenhower to speak-out against Senator Joe McCarthy. He was probably influenced by McCarthy's attacks on CIA officials such as Frank Wisner and Cord Meyer. In Jackson's opinion McCarthy was damaging the anti-Communist cause with self serving and unstable behavior.

According to Carl Bernstein, Jackson was "Henry Luce's personal emissary to the CIA". He also claimed that in the 1950s Jackson had arranged for CIA employees to travel with Time-Life credentials as cover.

After the election of John F. Kennedy in 1960 Jackson left the White House and became publisher of Life Magazine. When Kennedy was assassinated, Jackson purchased the Zapruder Film on behalf of Life. David Lifton points out in The Great Zapruder Film Hoax (2004) that: "Abraham Zapruder in fact sold the film to Time-Life for the sum of $150,000 - about $900,000 dollars in today's money... Moreover, although Life had a copy of the film, it did little to maximize the return on its extraordinary investment. Specifically, it did not sell this unique property - as a film - to any broadcast media or permit it to be seen in motion, the logical way to maximize the financial return on its investment... A closer look revealed something else. The film wasn't just sold to Life - the person whose name was on the agreement was C. D. Jackson." Jackson published individual frames of Zapruder's film but did not allow the film to be screened in its entirety.

Soon after the assassination Jackson also successfully negotiated with Marina Oswald the exclusive rights to her story. Peter Dale Scott argues in his book Deep Politics and the Death of JFK (1996) that Jackson, on the urging of Allen Dulles, employed Isaac Don Levine, a veteran CIA publicist, to ghost-write Marina's story. This story never appeared in print.

Charles Douglas Jackson died on 18th September, 1964. On December 15, 1971, Jackson's widow gave his papers to the Eisenhower Presidential Library. These documents revealed that he had been working as a CIA agent since 1948.


Thanks, great info

The plot thickens. I want to know who is in charge at Time now, and if he or she has ties to intelligence. But how do you find out?

Well.... here's some suspect behavior already.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stengel#Controversy

[2] Everything that is rancid and corrupt with modern journalism: The Nutshell

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Hamsher#Time_Magazine.2C_November_21.2...

I'm fairly certain this article is from a year ago.

I cannot find it anywhere in the current issue and I seem to remember it from some time ago.
The article has no date and no author.

If Not Me? Who? If Not Now? When?

If it is from a year ago, I

If it is from a year ago, I apologize profusely. I received this notification in my google reader service.

I Was Wrong. Here tis Dated Today 21st July

Not since the JFK assassination has there been a national tragedy so heavily imprinted in American minds — or that has given rise to quite as many alternative explanations. While videos and photographs of the two planes striking the World Trade Center towers are famous around the world, the sheer profusion of documentary evidence has only provided even more fodder for conspiracy theories.

A May 2006 Zogby poll found that 42% of Americans believed that the government and the 9/11 commission "concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks." Why had the military failed to intercept the hijacked planes? Had the government issued a "stand down" order, to minimize interference with a secret plan to destroy the buildings and blame it on Islamic terrorists? In 2005, Popular Mechanics published a massive investigation of similar claims and responses to them. The reporting team found that the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) did not have a history of having fighter jets prepped and ready to intercept aircraft that had gone off route. And while the team found no evidence that the government had planned the attacks, lack of proof has rarely stopped conspiracy theorists before.

Good thing is that it begins with the JFK conspiracy.

What percentage of Americans still believe the Lone Gunman Theory?

If Not Me? Who? If Not Now? When?

Even so

It serves as an object lesson that the 911 Truth community should go after the main stream media, in toto. I guess I have a judo mentality - the right way to go about this would involve, at least partly, using the same article against Time magazine, and talking about how wonderful they are not just on 911, but the JFK assassination, the MLK assassination, etc. IMO, the evidence for a MIHOP conspiracy, at least in terms of what is known to the public, is stronger for the JFK, MLK and RFK assassinations than it is for 911. All the more reason, then, not to just push 911 Truth arguments, but also the the strongest evidence for those other deceitful acts, in appealing to the public to turn away from the main stream media.

Those bozos didn't do a very good job warning the public about the US getting sucked into a multi-trillion dollar debt trap, so going bankrupt, themselves, would be appropriate karma.


The marketing intention or objectives with this article...

There are probably several marketing objectives with this article. Besides targeting the general public, I think a strong purpose is to also target other news media. In targeting other news media, Time is trying to create an impression that even mentioning the subject of a non-official conspiracy theory is a silly notion. There is a strong inclination by independent media to not even mention alternative ideas about 9/11. They are timid about treading those waters. The Time article might be trying to keep that stigma going with other Press. I am continually astounded by the number of people out here on the street who know about 9/11 Truth...our numbers are growing at a rapid rate.

You might be onto something Tom

I noticed the exact same thing you just mentioned here twice today. In these mainstream interviews regarding other conspiracies, it seems like the host and guests are making willful efforts not to include JFK/9-11 in these interviews. The first example was on Keith Olbermann tonite (David Shuyster sitting in for KO).


And here, the myth busters themselves spend little time debunking the easiest of all conspiracy theories, the moon landing.


As much as I kept waiting for 9/11 an inside job to be included with these, it seems to me there was an effort not to go there.
I don't suspect that Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman plan on tackling the myths of 9/11 anytime soon however.



Time Magazine Doesn't Have The Balls Nor The Permission...

...to print an article-length exposition of the best work by the leading lights of the 911 Truth Movement - Dr. Jones, Dr. David Ray Griffin, Kevin Ryan and a whole host of highly rational people of respected prior accomplishment. Why doesn't Time Magazine interview General Stubblebine?

If Time were not so cowardly and owned, we might have read remarks and further interviews from the likes of General Stubblebine (see PatriotsQuestion911.com) who is highly qualified to judge photographic evidence and ask relevant questions. The 911 Truth Movement, after all, is only about answering unanswered questions. WTF is an information rag for anyway?

Oh yeah...no balls, no permission... Otherwise, it would be a fascinating, widely read piece. Copies of boring old dinosaur, Time Magazine, would fly off the shelves as people are so hungry for a serious treatment of the 911 argument and counter-argument --- about Conservation of Momentum and Energy, and molten metal, and witnesses, and iron microspheres, and dust, and active thermitic material. ...and then there are all those Architects & Engineers to talk to...

Oh yeah... no balls...no permission.

Weasel "Journalism"

For what its worth, I wrote to the Editor of Time Magazine. The letter went as follows:


Dear Editor,

Your conflation of those who question the official 9/11 explanation alongside such idiocy as the "faked moon landings" and "holocaust denial" is utterly inappropriate, a piece of gross intellectual cowardice, showing total disregard of the facts. In short, your piece of 7th grade weasel journalism is a crass insult to the American people, a one finger jab at the deceased, as well as those who lost loved ones on that ghastly day.

Yes, 9/11 was a conspiracy, of that there is no doubt. The Government's conspiracy theory claims that the attacks were executed by "19 arabs, with total surprise". In other words, they singlehandedly took on the world's most powerful military, security and intelligence apparatus in their own front living room, with many dozens of agencies simultaneously completely failing to do what they do best. To add insult to injury, these clever guys (whose "best pilot", Hani Hanjour, was barely able to control a Cessna in level flight), somehow managed to suspend the laws of gravity, conservation of momentum and thermodynamics, for two hours, at a stroke.

In the aftermath, the Bush Administration refused to authorize any investigation until 441 days after the event. (May we wonder why?). When the 9/11 Commission grudgingly got the go-ahead, it was cripplingly underfunded and placed under severe time constraints. Witnesses were threatened and intimidated by government "minders" throughout the process. 90% of the witnesses' testimony was rejected out of hand because it failed to conform to the clearly preordained conclusion that Executive Director Philip Zelikow had laid out. The two co-chairs claim that the 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail". Commissioners claim that they were lied to by the White House, the Pentagon and NORAD. Some Commissioners resigned in disgust, including Sen. Patrick Leahy. Senior Counsel to the Commission John Farmer said that the "greater part of the findings at the Commission are untrue". In short the 9/11 Commission, was a classic example of what is known in the scientific community as "dry-labbing". In other words, they cheated.

There is a wealth of scientifically verifiable and soundly researched material that renders the official explanation very shaky at best, or at worst, a complete lie. Time Magazine however, for reasons I would prefer not to speculate upon (I am not a conspiracy theorist), has decided that citing problematic or controversial material that could implicate persons other than the 19 alleged hijackers, is taboo and must be discredited at all costs. The fashionable method to accomplish this is by direct association with nonsensical gibberish, the likes of which appear in supermarket tabloids. Furthermore Time Magazine is seemingly unable to distinguish between "asking questions" and "making speculative pronouncements", alongside the rest of the corporate media which has adopted this same infantile attitude.

I feel that in the light of the failure of the 9/11 Commission to properly investigate the worst ever crime of US soil, a new independent inquiry with full subpoena power must be set up to get this nasty affair behind us all. The rancour that 9/11 has generated is dividing this country down the middle, and we are now in the intolerable situation that the mass murder of almost 3000 people and the wanton destruction of some $20 billion of real estate remains unaddressed, unsolved, and unpunished. Does Time Magazne support a new inquiry? If so, and if Time has any sense of patriotism and justice, the answer is plain. If not, then it is quite possible that unknowingly and unwittingly, Time Magazine is protecting some people who should be behind bars. So, come on Time Magazine, step up to the plate and support your country. Surely you're not scared to do that?


Will they publish that, or any other skeptical heresy? Probably little chance (!!). But I hope they are getting a bunch of correspondence on this issue. It may get someone in the Time Warner Ivory Tower thinking rationally.


Eloquent, concise, rational, direct, stinging, beautiful letter!! I can only wish I could write things like that. If any one in any position of any power at that magazine reads that, they would have no choice but to at least acknowledge how stupid the initial "article" was. Wishful thinking, but it would be amazing to see how media outlets nationwide would react to letters just like this pouring into their offices demanding they do their jobs and ask the real questions and demanding honest answers. Excellent letter!!

The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry

Weasel journalism also very much alive in Australia

In Australia, 9/11 is largely ignored by the establishment (and most of the 'alternative') newsmeida, but from time to time similar intellectually cowardly attempts are made to discredit the 9/11 Truth movement and others who dispute official mythology.

One example is the piece by Australian corporate mouthpiece Bernard Salt. Jackson's death becomes celebrity thriller in The Australian of 2 July in which Salt attempts to conflate the 9/11 Truth movement and those disputing the lone gunman JFK conspiracy theory with other unofficial conspiracy theories which have varying degrees of merit:

Questions about Michael Jackson's Death, the disappearence of Prime Minister Harold Holt in 1967, the death of Princess Diana, the faked Apollo moon landing, that Elvis faked his own death.

Here is a sample of his writing:

But if you really want to create the perfect conspiracy theory, then have a celebrity power figure, say a 46-year-old US president, assassinated in public. And then have the whole thing captured on a single movie camera operated by a middle-aged man with an exotic name such as, oh I don't know, say Abraham Zapruder.

Mind you, not all conspiracy theories involve death. Some involve science. We know the Americans didn't land on the moon because the photo of the flag they planted doesn't have a shadow. Someone at NASA stuffed up and if it were not for eagle-eyed conspiracy theorists we'd really have the wool pulled over our eyes.

Other conspiracy theories question the motives behind global events: the bigger the event the greater the market for an elaborate theory.

Did you know that 9/11 was orchestrated by the CIA so a pretext could be established for George W.Bush to invade Iraq via Afghanistan? And this is because Bush wanted to please his father, who regretted not taking Saddam Hussein out after Desert Storm.

Back in the market for celebrity conspiracy theories, you are aware, of course, that Elvis Presley didn't die but faked his death. You see, Elvis couldn't stand the pressure of celebrity any longer so now he lives among us as an ordinary person.

But here's the rub: only the truly faithful can see him.

Of all the conspiracy theories, this one scares me the most. Elvis had such a global fan base that, well, we just couldn't let him go at 42. (Jesus Christ died at 33.)

Elvis appeared to ascend into heaven, but in reality he remained on earth. Elvis's word lives on through his gospel (songs). And there have been sightings. Apparitions, in fact. No, my child, I am not the Virgin Mary, I am Elvis Presley, and I say unto you, "love me tender".

(blah, blah, blah, rhubarb, blah, rhubarb, blah, blah, etc,)

This was also noted in a post to the 911oz forum.

It doesn't work...

They can lump 9-11 Truth with whatever they want. It doesn't work. It's too late. People are waking up so fast now. They can't stop it.

With you in the struggle,
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org

Bruno, you are right! The floodgates are already open.

Many, many people know about 9/11 !! The media is timid about bringing up the subject of 9/11, but it is occurring more often now (in subtle ways). Dallas Morning News suburban reporter - http://mckinneyblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/07/911-conspiracy-event... ...and a suburban blog... http://www.mckinneyconnection.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=188&t=445&start...

This is good news...

Congrats Truthers...9/11 Truth sits right behind the JFK assassination in the minds of citizens. This means that our work is paying off and the public is aware of our positions.

The TRUTH is...that once people examine the evidence, they almost always conclude that 9/11 was an inside job...and...

Since the vast majority of citizens believe that their government was part of the JFK hit, it means that those who think 9/11 was helped-orchastrated by elements within our own government have already gotten past THE major obstacle that we face when doing 9/11 CI...[Civil Informationing in the streets...ie: the denial of such!
I feel that Time is doing us a great favor by noting JFK with 9/11 right behind it but, getting a citizen to express this publically or to do something about it is another story .

So, we just still have to keep the information flowing out there until the average citizen does want to step up and become more active.

Perhaps its a good reminder that the VAST number of citizens back in the 60s-70s, when so many new initiatives were born, were NOT very public at all. It was a small minority of "activists" that stirred the pot by being in the streets...and they were the Truthers back then. So, I do not expect all citizenry to become overtly active regarding 9/11 Truth...but 9/11 TRUTH will have positive effects down the road when changes are needed.

Its a good sign that Time and all the corporate media still have to put their fingers in the dikes to hold us back. Soon, they will be running out of fingers as we penetrate AND go around the dikes that they have erected to hold us back.

I suggest that now is the right time to consider the following:

"9/11 TRUTH for World PEACE"

...and my new catch phrase that works pretty well in the streets:

"We CAN handle the TRUTH:
that's why they keep lying to us..."

Love, Peace and Progress with:


...just for starters as we slowly throw all the criminal politicians out or put them in jail...

Robin Hordon
Kingston, WA


I like those slogans.

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.

"enduring conspiracy theories

When faced with the outrageous and provable lie of 911, it makes one wonder how much of the information from the last 40 years is acurate. When your only source of news is a person who lies, it becomes difficult to tell the truth from a lie. At that point you need independent confirmation.

It is not that we believe wild theories. It is that we don't believe the govenment. The trust has been broken.


Thank you for saying it so well.

‘We'll know our

‘We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.’ -- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981-1987.

‘The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.’ -- William Colby, CIA Director, 1973-1976.

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


wasn't aware of that top quote.

I do believe

this is the sickest quote I have ever heard. Right out of Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Put forth high quality information

This Time piece can help us through wide exposure. Keep being persistent and persuasive. Push 9/11 Truth with the most convincing, science-based data. Leave people with the following impression, "Wow, this is more than a kooky idea." Only our best information can do this; there is no room for weak arguments here.

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Now did they really?

From the article: "In 2005, Popular Mechanics published a massive investigation of similar claims and responses to them."

The Popular Mechanics magazine article and their book, Debunking 9/11 Myths, can hardly be described as a massive investigation. It is more akin to a really bad 8th grade book report.

Nevertheless, I always wonder why they don't include the Saddam Al-Qaeda connection and the WMD hoax as one of the biggest conspiracy theories of the last 50 years? After all it was the most consequential. Maybe government propaganda can't be labeled a conspiracy theory, because we all know that governments have a monopoly on the truth.


Here here!