CBS REPORTS THAT FLIGHT 93 CRASHED NEAR CAMP DAVID ON 9/11.
Joe Mon, 08/17/2009 - 5:51pm
I never heard of this before.
CBS REPORTS THAT FLIGHT 93 CRASHED NEAR CAMP DAVID ON 9/11.
CBS REPORTS THAT FLIGHT 93 CRASHED NEAR CAMP DAVID ON 9/11.
9/11 CONSPIRACY? In this clip you will see the AMAZING REPORTS THAT FLIGHT 93 CRASHED NEAR CAMP DAVID ON 9/11.
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I knew there were reports...
of a plane crashing near Camp David but did not know it was claimed to be United 93. After some research I found this was reported (within the movement) in 2007. Anyway, this might serve to help change someone's mind about the Official Myth.
I have a friend/coworker that I have been trying to convince for two years. He watched DRG 911: The Myth and the Reality and he wasn't convinced, he watched Blueprint for Truth...he had some serious questions. Finally over the summer he watched Core of Corruption: In the Shadows. That did him in.
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Thanks for this article
However, how might this help change someone's mind? Is there something unusual about this report other than that the crash site is off by about 200 kilometers? (They say: "In the vicinity of or at Camp David" Was it reported before the crash, i.e. what time was this reported? Are you suggesting the FBI knew the real intended target?
Airliner crash at Camp David on 9/11?
Through a very close and trustworthy friend, I know of three eyewitnesses who were repairing a roof near Camp David on the morning of 9/11, who saw a missile shoot up from Camp David (which of course has military missies), and take down an airliner, which then crashed at Camp David (one of the most secure areas in the US).
A day or two later, while in line at the bank, one of those eyewitnesses told some strangers what he saw, and that night he got a visit from the FBI, who interrogated him and then threatened him if he talked about what he saw.
Based on those 3 eyewitnesses, it would seem that CBS TV news report could well have been accurate in at least one way.
But was it Flight 93? Possibly. Camp David is on a straight line between Shanksville and DC. the supposed target. If a heat seeking missile from a fighter jet took off an engine and damaged 93, (consistent with debris and the engine that was found in and around Shanksville), but did not take 93 down (admittedly a bit unlikely, but possible), it could have limped towards DC on one engine and got shot down 90 miles later at Camp David.
That scenario would would also explain why the damage and debris in Pennsylvania is inconsistent with a high speed airliner crash.
Regardless of what may have happened, the three eyewitnesses near Camp David saw something on the morning of 9/11 consistent with the CBS TV report.
Update revision regarding Airliner crash at Camp David on 9/11?
Airliner crash at Camp David on 9/11?
Through a very close and trustworthy personal friend named Ean, I know of three eyewitnesses who were up on a roof repairing it very near Camp David on the morning of 9/11. They all saw a missile shoot up from Camp David (which of course has military missiles), and hit and take down what looked to them to be an airliner. They then saw that same plane crash at Camp David, which is one of the most secure areas in the US.
A day or two later, while in line at the bank, one of those eyewitnesses told some strangers in that line what he saw that morning, and that night he got a visit from the FBI who interrogated him, and then threatened him if he talked about what he saw. He then shut up, other than to a few trusted friends, one of those being my friend Ean.
Based on those 3 eyewitnesses, it would seem that a CBS TV news report about incidents in and around Camp David on 9/11 could well have been accurate in at least some ways.
But was it Flight 93 that crashed at Camp David? Unlikely. While it is the case that Camp David is on a straight line between Shanksville and DC - the supposed intended target of 93 - there is also strong evidence that 93 did crash at Shanksville. The evidence includes airliner debris, including parts of one or two engines that were found in and around the crater in the ground near Shanksville. There is also the data from the flight data recorder and radar reports that are both consistent with 93 crashing into the ground on 9/11.
Regardless of what may have happened in Shanksville, the three eyewitnesses near Camp David saw something on the morning of 9/11 consistent with parts of the CBS TV report.
I’ve seen online one other local TV news report from the day of 9/11 where they told of a plane being shot down at Camp David.
There were first hand reports of major phone communication breakdowns into Camp David on the morning of 9/11.
There were also reports of fire trucks rushing to Camp David that morning.
A documentary titled Attack on the Pentagon that was produced and shown in England in 2009 includes several people saying that they were told, after Flight 77 had already hit the Pentagon, that another plane that had also been on a heading for DC had instead crashed at Camp David.
Wondering
I wonder, is there any radar data for that area from the morning of 9/11?
Were the eyewitnesses you know of able to fix an approximate time for what they saw? If so, do they accord with those TV reports that have been found?
>>There were first hand reports of major phone communication breakdowns into Camp David on the morning of 9/11.<<
Interesting. Communication breakdowns seem to be a recurring feature of 'deep events.' Any sources for these reports?
Whether Camp David or a DC location were the intended target, I can only imagine the consternation among the plotters that the missiles succeeded in shooting down the plane (this is all assuming the veracity of your friend's witnesses). That left them with something else that would need to be swept under the rug.
Crash was possibly simulated in a training exercise
I strongly suspect that the alleged plane crash at Camp David was in fact a simulated scenario in a training exercise taking place on the morning of September 11. I covered this in my blog article, "Targeting the President: Evidence of U.S. Government Training Exercises on 9/11," which you can read here: http://shoestring911.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/targeting-president-evidence-of-us.html
>> Communication breakdowns seem to be a recurring feature of 'deep events.' Any sources for these reports? <<
I covered this in my article and provided sources. I wrote:
Furthermore, communication systems went down in the Camp David area around the time the crash was being reported. Theresa Hahn has recalled that she was unable to get through on the phone to an aunt who lived on the other side of the Catoctin Mountain Park. [56] And J. Mel Poole said that when he tried making a call, "the entire trunk system for this area went down." There was "a message display on the phone that tells you the status of the phone," he said, and this showed that "it was not just that the line was busy, that there was too much traffic," but in fact that "the trunk went down, which is like the main line that all the other lines feed into." [57]
Swarms of Agents
If this is true, there would have been swarms of agents in the towns nearby for days afterwards. NTSB, FBI, State Police. Hotels would be full. Restaurants would be buzzing.
There would have been lots of trucks going in and out collecting up the wreckage.
The police would have restricted travel up to Catoctin Park until they got this mess cleaned up.
Work at night might have involved bright lights which could be seen from a long ways off.
The coroner would be involved.
Do we have any solid evidence that these related activites took place?
Can you think of others?
News To Me
This file came to us yesterday. I had never heard it, but that doesn't mean it wasn't available before or that someone else might have heard it previously.
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=E097D925456F1330!262&authkey=!AGinLuEGjuu3yBE&ithint=file%2cwav
It says that as of 10:28 am the Secret Service confirms UA93 hit Camp David.
Let the triangulations begin.
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What's the source?
Is it a FOIA?
Reliable Source
Due to the nature of the material, I can only say this comes from a very reliable source.
It appears to be a clip from a longer original. Looks like it was created in May 2004.
We have to do a significant amount of analysis to determine if there are any other supportive materials. This will take some time.
This was likely an exercise 'inject'
>> It says that as of 10:28 am the Secret Service confirms UA93 hit Camp David. <<
I covered this in my blog article (http://shoestring911.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/targeting-president-evidence-of-us.html) and provided links to relevant sources. I wrote:
Immediately after these incorrect reports were received, another erroneous report went out, which suggested another of President Bush's homes had been the target of a terrorist attack. This time the location involved was Camp David, the presidential retreat in the Catoctin Mountains in Maryland, about 70 miles northwest of Washington.
The incident was apparently first reported by the Secret Service, which stated that Flight 93 had crashed into Camp David. At 10:36 a.m., Doug Davis, a member of staff at FAA headquarters, was talking over the phone to John White, a manager at the FAA's Command Center, and said: "Secret Service is saying they believe United 93 hit Camp David. That is what Secret Service is reporting." [42] White later told the 9/11 Commission, "They [the Secret Service] confirmed that; I heard it; it was in my ear." [43]
... The report that a plane had crashed at Camp David was soon found to have been incorrect. At 10:45 a.m., nine minutes after he passed on the Secret Service's claim that Flight 93 had hit Camp David, Doug Davis told John White that the Secret Service had retracted the claim. "They think the United did go in south of Johnstown and not at Camp David," he said. [51] The FAA called the military at some point for confirmation that a crash had occurred at Camp David and was assured that no such crash had taken place. [52]
As I mentioned in my prevous comment, I strongly suspect that this alleged plane crash at Camp David was a simulated scenario in a training exercise taking place on September 11.
Shame on the SS
The SS had unique access to information. They likely maintined a skeleton crew at Camp David and could have confirmed this before feeding it to the FAA. The tape says 10:28,. Remember this is ~25 minutes after UA93 reportedly crashed in PA. It is after the war games had been cancelled.
I'm not sure what the actual distance from Shanksville to Camp David is, but it appears to be significant enough to rule out a mistake due to smoke drifting to the SE.
The question I have is why this audio has not been available before now. This seems to be the FAA recording from their central command center.
The complete set of FAA files has been available to us since 2011 http://www.911datasets.com/index.php/NARA_FOIA_36411_FAA_RECORDS_Aug_19_2011
Here is the transcript of the tape. Is it complete?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13883514/Transcript-of-FAA-Open-Line-on-9-11
Not so new after all
I was able to locate the original recording file from the 2011 FAA FOIA records response.
5 DCC 1957 Admin phone #4530 Position 26 1415-1600 UTC.wav
Begin around mark 22:00. I'm not providing a direct link because the file is over 1GB. You can find it on 911datasets if you want.
The transcipt of the audio is not 100% complete.
The audio is not easy to listen to because the master file has a noise track on the right channel. Very annoying. Question is why does the clip not have this noise if it comes from the master?
Got it.
Thanks.
http://911datasets.org/index.php/SFile:RYRPIVG2LI37XOZU56APTV5ILT4STTT7